Speaker 1: A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Brady
Speaker 1: or work our windows my world rison the dust. Only
Speaker 1: good babs are all down. I don't much, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I'll big get and what I want. It
Speaker 1: don't matter where. This is the pickup, Hi, guys, it's
Speaker 1: a pick up with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2: And you've got a very important appointment tonight. Laura, and
Speaker 2: you were just telling me about.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the show today to go and get my girls,
Speaker 1: to go and do a mad dash to Kmart to
Speaker 1: go and get everything that we need to make Easter
Speaker 1: hats for the Easter hat parade.
Speaker 2: What are you going? You're going like a wide brim
Speaker 2: a cap. What's the base?
Speaker 1: The problem with Easter hat parades is that you really
Speaker 1: have to work with whatever you can find. So it's
Speaker 1: a bit of a scavenger hunt. Because you hear me out,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I think you can do more.
Speaker 1: Shops need to like sell things that are specific for
Speaker 1: making the Easter hats. You gotta go hunting. You gotta find,
Speaker 1: like we things to hot glue gun on it, or
Speaker 1: it's a paper mache or crepe paper, like it's a
Speaker 1: whole thing. I just loved Pitchy doing it. I do
Speaker 1: it every year. What are you talking about last year?
Speaker 1: I went and bought like fake flowers, and so she
Speaker 1: had like ornaments of rabbits stuck on her hat and
Speaker 1: then fake flowers around the ornaments. It was a masterpiece.
Speaker 1: She held onto that one. It's still in the cupboard.
Speaker 3: You know. One of the only things I've ever won
Speaker 3: in life. Couldn't even win The Bachelor. The only thing
Speaker 3: I ever won was the easter hat parade when I
Speaker 3: was about five years old.
Speaker 2: I nailed it. We had to do a well do
Speaker 2: you still do it?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 1: Do I do an actual parade? The parade around?
Speaker 2: Oh, we were on the catwalk. I'd gone to modeling classes.
Speaker 2: I did model classes.
Speaker 3: I knew how to walk, and I strutted that hat
Speaker 3: and I had you know what won me?
Speaker 2: Plus my mum.
Speaker 3: It was a full easter hat parade, like beautiful hat,
Speaker 3: but it was a wide brim and she put like,
Speaker 3: we're in the outback where you put like cork to
Speaker 3: get the flies away, And so I had like an
Speaker 3: outback cork swinging around my head.
Speaker 1: Sorry, was it cork? Or was it tiny little easter eggs,
Speaker 1: because that would have been.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe she did the East trokes. I can't remember,
Speaker 3: but it was to keep the flies away.
Speaker 1: I thought I won. I mean that gives me some
Speaker 1: that gives me some inspo. Maybe I can do that,
Speaker 1: but with Easter eggs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'll probably win if you do that.
Speaker 1: I do have to get her into modeling school. That's
Speaker 1: probably the ones.
Speaker 2: I'll come around this afternoon. I'll show her some things.
Speaker 1: Now. Look, I have been unintentionally, slightly intentionally. It started
Speaker 1: off intentional. It was intentional, but now it's unintentional rage
Speaker 1: baiting people on the internet. Now, if you don't know
Speaker 1: what rage baiting is, it's basically when you create content
Speaker 1: on Instagram with the intention of making people angry.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's pretty self explanatory, Like you're baiting
Speaker 2: the rage.
Speaker 1: I'm baiting the rage. Yeah. My husband and I, Matt,
Speaker 1: we have been doing a renovation and we've been documenting
Speaker 1: the process over the last couple of months. It's been
Speaker 1: nine months. And let me tell you, we have put
Speaker 1: some blood, sweat and tears into this renovation and dollars
Speaker 1: and some cash. It is eclectic, it is weird. I
Speaker 1: mean you described as a Willy Wonker house, but we
Speaker 1: wanted to have a house that was like colorful and
Speaker 1: fun that when you walked into it, you felt like
Speaker 1: you're on a holiday.
Speaker 2: It is a fun house. You got to put those
Speaker 2: sunglasses onto walking.
Speaker 1: Over the last couple of months, we've realized that people
Speaker 1: either love it or they hate it. And in the
Speaker 1: last week we've started to do room reveals because we
Speaker 1: were our own little mini block here. The first one
Speaker 1: was the bathroom, the second one was the kitchen. And
Speaker 1: I just want to say I was not prepared for
Speaker 1: how angry renovation content makes people.
Speaker 2: You baited too hard.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to age. The problem is that when
Speaker 1: past rage baiting and now it's like people are just
Speaker 1: being me and I'm like, this is still my house, guys.
Speaker 1: So this is what I mean by it's making people enraged. Firstly,
Speaker 1: Daily Mail has written an article about how enraged people
Speaker 1: are if you want to go and look for it.
Speaker 1: But also it things like this, oh, actually funny. Her
Speaker 1: handle is plain Jane, so maybe it's why she doesn't
Speaker 1: like it, but she wrote love that for you. You
Speaker 1: were being stubborn with your style. I just don't understand
Speaker 1: how it works though it doesn't work with the natural simplicity.
Speaker 1: It's ugly.
Speaker 2: Wow, imagine writing someone.
Speaker 1: Here's another review. Oh my god, that marble is hideous.
Speaker 1: Here's another review from Stacy Yuck. The cupboard doesn't match
Speaker 1: anything and the tiles are just horrible.
Speaker 2: Hang on in the kitchen or we're stillroom.
Speaker 1: We're in the bathroom now. Marble fixtures and layout is
Speaker 1: the only saving grace. This person wrote, well, you would
Speaker 1: be ripped to pieces by SHANEA blaze. Let's put it
Speaker 1: that way. It's a no from me too.
Speaker 2: Okay, well it's not the block. Shane is not coming
Speaker 2: to stay.
Speaker 1: Someone wrote you couldn't pay me to stay here, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you'll never get to stay here.
Speaker 2: It's okay, Sharon, you're not invited.
Speaker 1: And then the last one was and this was about
Speaker 1: the kitchen reveal, So that was the second room that
Speaker 1: we were like really excited to share with everyone. And
Speaker 1: someone wrote better than your crap.
Speaker 3: Bathroom at these private dms written publicly.
Speaker 1: Look, I'll be honest, I.
Speaker 3: Guess you do put it out there. You open yourself
Speaker 3: up when you say what do you think? Yeah, which
Speaker 3: you did do so you have to expect people to
Speaker 3: say that they don't like.
Speaker 1: I want people to know that, like, I'm okay with
Speaker 1: it because, like we there's been a lot of kind feedback.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of people who love it. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of people who are into the maxim minimalist,
Speaker 1: like eclectic style of a crazy house that's got personality,
Speaker 1: and then there are people who are not, And I
Speaker 1: appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Producer Grace, why don't we get some of the block
Speaker 3: judges on, why don't we get one of them on,
Speaker 3: let's show them some of the house. Let's get and
Speaker 3: see what they think, what Shana thinks, Let's see what
Speaker 3: SHANEA thinks.
Speaker 1: Darren Palmer, Darren Palmer is going to be like, it's
Speaker 1: a monstrosity, let's do it. Yeah, I'm down. My only
Speaker 1: worry is someone saying things like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: getting worse. And I was like, guys, we've shown the
Speaker 1: best two rooms. You started from the top, like it
Speaker 1: really is. It really does get worse.
Speaker 3: There's a really interesting discussion going down all the way
Speaker 3: over in Italy.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: The reason that I want to talk about this is
Speaker 3: because it's something that I have been thinking about recently
Speaker 3: getting married. Whose name I'm going to take my fiancees
Speaker 3: or not? What are we going to name our kids?
Speaker 3: Whose name are going to give them?
Speaker 2: But over in.
Speaker 3: Italy there's a politician named Dario Francescini who is proposing
Speaker 3: a new bill that any children born will automatically take
Speaker 3: the mother's surname instead of the father's surname. Now, we
Speaker 3: know in Australia that the default usually is the father's name,
Speaker 3: but you can choose, so you can if you both
Speaker 3: agree to, you can say, you know, we're going to
Speaker 3: to give it a hyphen double barrel, or we're going
Speaker 3: to give it the mother's name, or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: But kids in Italy are automatically registered with their father's surname,
Speaker 3: and the mother's surname is only permitted if the father
Speaker 3: is absent from the child's life. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, I mean I read this. I have opinions on
Speaker 1: it for multiple reasons, but I think it is really
Speaker 1: an injustice, and I know that that's one thing he said.
Speaker 1: He described it as centuries old injustice. But it is
Speaker 1: an injustice if the only time the mother's name is
Speaker 1: permitted to be the chosen name is in the absence
Speaker 1: of a dad, because the thing is, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of dads who might show up as a really half
Speaker 1: assed parent who then may be in and out of
Speaker 1: that kid's life for the rest of their life. I
Speaker 1: understand that that's a possibility. And it may be also
Speaker 1: that the mum does know who the father is, but
Speaker 1: they're not together and he's not an active participant in
Speaker 1: the child's life. Like, there's so many reasons, so many
Speaker 1: reasons why it shouldn't just be the default of the
Speaker 1: dad's name. It should always be a conversation. But I
Speaker 1: think like having it like this and having it written
Speaker 1: into legislation means that it makes it really hard for
Speaker 1: moms who want to be able to have the same
Speaker 1: last names as their children and also have that connection
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 3: So do you think here in Australia would you ever
Speaker 3: want it to be the default that it was the
Speaker 3: mother's surname that was give passed on.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't think we need it to
Speaker 1: be a default here because I think we have the
Speaker 1: opportunity of choice. The problem is, though, is that we
Speaker 1: are still very steeped in tradition that most women take
Speaker 1: on their partner's name. There's definitely been changes. I didn't
Speaker 1: take on my partner's last name when we got married.
Speaker 1: My name's Burn, his last name's Johnson. There's definitely people
Speaker 1: who are breaking from that. However, I would be lying
Speaker 1: if I didn't say that. They're like literal years and
Speaker 1: years and years, and my upbringing and everything else didn't
Speaker 1: influence my decision making when it came to me having children.
Speaker 1: I never took on Matt's last name. But when I
Speaker 1: was pregnant with Marley, it wasn't even a consideration as
Speaker 1: to whether she would have my last name or Matt's
Speaker 1: last name. It was as though it was just an expectation.
Speaker 1: So we never discussed it, and both my both my
Speaker 1: children or our children were still happily married. Both our
Speaker 1: children have the last name Johnson, and I don't share
Speaker 1: that last name with them. And in our family it's fine,
Speaker 1: because you know, I grew up in a family that
Speaker 1: had lots of last names, because my mum got remarried
Speaker 1: and I had a half brother who's you know, my brother,
Speaker 1: but we all had different last names. However, it is
Speaker 1: interesting to me that even though I think I am
Speaker 1: progressive in this space I have no interest in changing
Speaker 1: my last name. That it didn't even occur to me
Speaker 1: that my kids having my last name was an option.
Speaker 3: Did that not even come on to your radar when
Speaker 3: you were getting married, that maybe you could give them
Speaker 3: your name.
Speaker 1: No, Because I you know, regardless of whether we are
Speaker 1: together forever or not, he's a great dad. I know
Speaker 1: he will always be a co parent. I think we're
Speaker 1: going to be together forever. That's not me saying otherwise.
Speaker 1: But I knew that I had a great parent in him,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't bother me that they had the last name.
Speaker 1: The thing is, that's not always the case. And I
Speaker 1: think about my brother growing up. So my mom, she
Speaker 1: had my little brother, we've got a quite a big
Speaker 1: age gap, and he has a different last name to me.
Speaker 1: His dad was absent from from the day he was born.
Speaker 1: My mom raised him as a single mom.
Speaker 2: She doesn't even get the name.
Speaker 1: And like they were married, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: very tremultuous relationship. He was a horrible person, and my
Speaker 1: mum ended up keeping her married name his last name
Speaker 1: because she didn't want my brother to grow up in
Speaker 1: a household where he was the only one who had
Speaker 1: a different name.
Speaker 3: Maybe she didn't think of that as an option. She
Speaker 3: could have also changed his last name.
Speaker 1: The problem is is once it's on a birth certificate,
Speaker 1: you have to get their approval to change the name.
Speaker 1: You can't as a mum just change a name. So
Speaker 1: I think the problem is is that a lot of
Speaker 1: women in Australia and across the world are in situations
Speaker 1: where they have no contact with their ex'es or their
Speaker 1: past anders. They may not even be nice people, and
Speaker 1: yet their children have to carry the last name of
Speaker 1: that person because it was never an option to them.
Speaker 3: Well, it is interesting the arguing against this. There's another
Speaker 3: politician over there, Mateo Salvini. He has said that if
Speaker 3: this bill comes into place, we are wiping these fathers
Speaker 3: off the face of the earth, which I think is
Speaker 3: interesting because for centuries, what have we done wiped the
Speaker 3: women off the face of the earth pretty much.
Speaker 1: I think that my argument to that is I don't
Speaker 1: I don't have a last name as my kids, but
Speaker 1: I'm still their mum. I haven't been wiped off the
Speaker 1: face of this earth exactly. My role and responsibility as
Speaker 1: a mum is not defined by the fact that I
Speaker 1: don't have the same last name as my kids one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Yeah, I think that. I mean that to
Speaker 1: me just feels very fragile, ego unfortunately interesting to see
Speaker 1: what happens.
Speaker 3: I feel like Italy and France are usually pretty progressive
Speaker 3: with these kind of things, So watch this space.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done your DNA test, like an ancestry test.
Speaker 2: I actually haven't, but I've never felt the need to.
Speaker 1: Are you just a bit curious about like I don't
Speaker 1: know your family tree and like what it is? What's
Speaker 1: your maker?
Speaker 2: I mean if you are questioning where I'm from?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you have questions about me, I can definitely
Speaker 3: go and get it done.
Speaker 2: I don't belong to my parents.
Speaker 1: No, i's this going. Do you know something? I don't, Brittany,
Speaker 1: this is your life? No, I find it really fascinating.
Speaker 1: And so my husband and I we actually did DNA
Speaker 1: tests together recently, ancestry DNA tests, and we got an
Speaker 1: email saying that their results were inconclusive. So we weren't
Speaker 1: able to get our results back. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it again because I made these
Speaker 1: big jokes to Matt and I was like, what if,
Speaker 1: like they found out something because when you do it.
Speaker 1: You have to submit like this is my dad, this
Speaker 1: is my mom, this, and you submit as much as
Speaker 1: your family tree as you possibly can. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what if the reason why they kept it is because
Speaker 1: they found out something they don't want us to know
Speaker 1: about it, Like maybe your dad's not your dad.
Speaker 2: They don't want to blow up your life.
Speaker 1: Maybe my uncle's not my uncle.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like, look, I think they'd tell
Speaker 3: you if you're your uncle of your uncle's that's not
Speaker 3: that impactful.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I think it is. Anyway, this
Speaker 1: article that came out, so a woman kind of she
Speaker 1: went and did all the different DNA tests. There's a
Speaker 1: couple that are really big ones in Australia. One's my
Speaker 1: heritage obviously ancestry DNA, which I think most people know of.
Speaker 1: And then there's also another one which is kind of
Speaker 1: like the crem Dela Creme of DNA tests called twenty.
Speaker 2: Three And me, hasn't that just gone into what's it
Speaker 2: called receivership?
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you know more about it than I.
Speaker 2: You're like the krem Dela Creme. I'm like, it just
Speaker 2: went down to go go.
Speaker 1: Do you know why they say it's the crem dela
Speaker 1: creme purely because it's the most expensive, it's meant to
Speaker 1: be the most thorough. But in the experience of this woman,
Speaker 1: it absolutely wasn't the case. But one thing she did
Speaker 1: find out plot twist. She found out that her childhood crush,
Speaker 1: who she had been obsessed with and in love with
Speaker 1: for the majority of her adolescents, turned out to be
Speaker 1: her cousin. Imagine if you found out not when you know,
Speaker 1: not a childhood crush. Imagine if you found out like
Speaker 1: you were dating. There was a.
Speaker 2: Couple that found out in America. She did the DNA test.
Speaker 3: She found out that her husband or fiance was a
Speaker 3: direct relation to her, and she was going to bury
Speaker 3: that information.
Speaker 2: Tell him I can't remember, I'm on the edge of
Speaker 2: my seat.
Speaker 3: Produce your grace park to look it up.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So there was a couple who discovered, after ten years
Speaker 3: of marriage and having three children that they were cousins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they found out via DNA.
Speaker 1: You just stay if you're being married and you've got kids,
Speaker 1: it's goorn too far. You're in two DP, you've already
Speaker 1: done all that.
Speaker 2: You're in white lotus territory.
Speaker 1: Just staying there. Look, I mean we opened up the
Speaker 1: text line and also I did a call out on
Speaker 1: my Instagram for this. You would be shocked by how
Speaker 1: many people discovered really salacious things about their families or
Speaker 1: about their lives. This One girl wrote in and said
Speaker 1: that her grandma had six kids and they all did
Speaker 1: their ancestry tests as grandchildren, and they found out that
Speaker 1: the grandma had been having an affair with the farmer
Speaker 1: who lived on the farm next door, in Italian farmer,
Speaker 1: and the youngest three children were not actually their grandfathers,
Speaker 1: but it was this Italian farmer. So three of the
Speaker 1: kids had the Italian heritage in DNA, and they were
Speaker 1: all linked to a different dad.
Speaker 2: They were all having a rumble behind the shed.
Speaker 1: No, they weren't just her, just the grandma. The kids
Speaker 1: absolutely were not rumbling, They all weren't.
Speaker 2: But they were Wow.
Speaker 1: Good on her. People who found out that their biological
Speaker 1: dad just wasn't like their dad, wasn't their dad. Loads
Speaker 1: of those came in. That would be a really sad discovery.
Speaker 1: Imagining thirty years old and finding out that your dad's
Speaker 1: not actually a biological dad. Know that that is gut
Speaker 1: wrenching and your mum did the dirty all those over there.
Speaker 1: Another girl wrote, my sister found out that she has
Speaker 1: a different dad. There's a lot of dads out here
Speaker 1: that are finding out that they either have kids that
Speaker 1: they didn't know they had, or that they're not the
Speaker 1: father to the kids they thought they did have.
Speaker 2: I just think, let dead dogs lie. What that's the saying,
Speaker 2: isn't it?
Speaker 3: This is why I would worry about going and doing
Speaker 3: a test, not that I think anything would come of it,
Speaker 3: but I'm happy with my life. I don't need the disruption.
Speaker 3: If it came out then my dad wasn't my dad,
Speaker 3: which he definitely is. Hang On, I don't want to
Speaker 3: go anywhere my dad is my dad. I don't have
Speaker 3: any queries, but I'm just saying sometimes I think ignorance
Speaker 3: is bliss.
Speaker 1: How's this one? This girl found out that Ivan Malatt
Speaker 1: is her dad's second cousin. See you know that's Skelton
Speaker 1: in a wardrobe and a closet.
Speaker 3: You don't need to know about it related to a psychopath?
Speaker 2: What are you going to do with that information?
Speaker 1: Anyway? We've got to call her on the line, Rosie,
Speaker 1: What did you find out from your ancestry? DNA hibrit
Speaker 1: high Lord time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't myself directly, but it was a family member.
Speaker 4: It was probably in her late fifties at the time.
Speaker 4: She'd been doing the whole ancestry journey for a long
Speaker 4: amount of time with her sister and her dad wasn't
Speaker 4: her real dad, and it was actually the next door
Speaker 4: neighbor when she was growing up.
Speaker 1: I linking to the neighbor though, how did she get there?
Speaker 4: I think maybe that family had also been doing kind
Speaker 4: of their own journey, so there was already DNA kind
Speaker 4: of in the system that was able to be linked. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a bit of a shock.
Speaker 3: So did his neighbor. What's the outcome here? Did the
Speaker 3: neighbor take her on as like the dad?
Speaker 4: So look, I'm not sure he was actually alive, but
Speaker 4: I do know that she's now in touch with the
Speaker 4: children that he did have, so she has kind of
Speaker 4: got other siblings out there, and she's in very much
Speaker 4: the same mindset as you said, Britt, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: my great grandfather was her dad, that's who raised her.
Speaker 4: So still kind of her opinion, but kind of good
Speaker 4: story is which is yeah, kind of got some more
Speaker 4: family members out of it.
Speaker 2: So that's nice, all right, you sold me, I'll go
Speaker 2: do one.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do one because I'm frightened to
Speaker 1: what I might find out.
Speaker 3: To be honest, you need to do one because you've
Speaker 3: done it and it came back inconclusive. So either they're
Speaker 3: saying that you're one of those avatars and your DNA
Speaker 3: doesn't match the humans, or something is a myths, so
Speaker 3: we need to get.
Speaker 2: To the bottom of that.
Speaker 1: That is not a story arc that I want to
Speaker 1: unpack on radio.
Speaker 2: That you're an avatar, that you're not related to your parents.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, well that is it from us today.