1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Jump mission with Jones and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: You know we haven't chatted to this fellow for some time. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: The Opposition leader Anthony Albanezi Anthony, Hello. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Good morning. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: Hello Anthony, or you will or albot I always feel 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: it's overfully familiar to call our political leaders their nicknames. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: It's like you're not doing a sports show. 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: No, And I don't say Scomo because it's not I 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: don't have it's not a friendship thing. 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: I just to say Scomo before he became Prime Minister. 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: Now it's changed a little bit. 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: To Cirsco mar but I just called him Scott these days. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: Actually, speaking of Scott Morris and Anthony, did you see 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: over there in him meeting the Queen? Have you ever 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: had a chance to meet the Queen? 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: I had met the Queen at Buckingham Palace when the 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: G twenty, the first one was yea, the first G 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: twenty at the time of the global financial crisis. It 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: was two thousand and nine, and we all did the 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: long queue as the leaders of the G twenty, the 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: major countries were there, all of President Obama and all 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: of the leaders, mister Berl Sconey from Italy. They all 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 1: queued up and It was a good experience. All stood 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: around and had had a very pleasant chat. 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Did you talk to the Queen? 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Well, you just very very briefly. I had a tap 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: to the Queen. 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Yes, but there are a lot of protocols where you 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: told don't say this. Imagine mister berliscone, be careful, don't 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: mention bunger bunger parties. 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: So let's right. There were some interesting characters. 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: In a lot of your life must be making other 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: people feel comfortable. I mean the Queen's life is that too. 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: How do you deal with characters that come up to 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: you in the street because you never know what you're 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: going to get from them. 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: People Australians in particular pretty friendly. Occasionally you'll get someone 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: who wants to have a crack for whatever reason, but 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Australians are very very friendly. I've got to say, even 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: after the State of Origin, I felt for. 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: You walking up in Townsville. How'd you go. 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: Walking back from the State of Ale at Queenslain This 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: love there footy and it was just a great experience. 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: I just think the fact that they were channing Queensland 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: when their team was thirty points down, good on them. 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: It was a great atmosphere. 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: But it seems to some political leaders they attracted different 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: kind of attention. So Malcolm turn for example, there was 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: some reason when he was on the Hustings people suddenly 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: became obsessed with giving him animals like and it started 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: like with someone's cat, and then someone bought a rat, 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: and then someone's trying. It was like doctor Doolittle for 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: a while there. Do you find that? Because and it 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: was like Bill Shorten. They get him to eat stuff. Hey, Bill, 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: eat this. We want to see you eat stuff. And 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: Bill would have to eat a sausage sandwich in a 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: strange way so it didn't look odd. 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to eat it in a strange way, 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: of course. But I find people know I love my dog, 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: so they always introduced me to their dogs. But that's great. 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: And so where are you with your vaccination? How I mean? 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: I know you've been critical of the role out and 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: with the recent two cases of COVID in Sydney, it 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: seems extraordinary that someone who's driving international flight crews hasn't 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: been vaccinated. This is a bit of an outrage, isn't it. 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Well we need to get essential workers done right. We 67 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: were told that we'd get the most vulnerable would all 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: be done by easter. So I have been critical the 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: fact that agecare residents, agecare workers, people with this abilities, 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: and people who work with them, people who are working 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: in the transport sector coming into contact with so many people. 72 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: They should have been at the front of the queue. 73 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: We were told Australia was at the front of the queue, 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: and we just weren't. There was an element of complacency 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: I think last year from the government saying we're at 76 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: the front of the queue, we'll have four million by March. 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: We're still only up to just under three percent of 78 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Australians have been fully vaccinated, and that puts US somewhere 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: around about one hundred and something as of today in 80 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: terms of the vaccination rollout around the world. And until 81 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: we roll out the vaccine so listeners get vaccinated if 82 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: you can, and until we fix national quarantine. They're the 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: two main jobs the governments had this year and frankly 84 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: both of them have boom botched. 85 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: If you were the boss of the world, what would 86 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: have you done that would have been different to what 87 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: the Liberal Party has done? What have you kept it? 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: It seems to be the astrosenic for example, and that 89 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: was the Great White Hope vaccine when it first was 90 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: mooted to us, but then all of a sudden, this 91 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: blood clotting thing clouded the issue issue. Is it possible 92 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: to shut down that talk. Is it possible for a 93 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 3: government to say, look, we don't want this information getting 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: out to the people, or is that restricting information? 95 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: You can't do that. You've got to let people know 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: about all of health issues. You've got to be transparent 97 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: about it. You've got to build that trust with the population. 98 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: The problem here is they put all their eggs in 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: the astrosenniga basket and the chickens have come home to roost. 100 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: We were saying this time last year you had to 101 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: do what international best practice said, which was five or 102 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: six deals. So we still don't have a deal with 103 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: a drug like Maderna, which is similar to the fires 104 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: drug in that it's an MR and a vaccine which 105 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: makes it more flexible for different strains that come in 106 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: and has been shown to be more effective. And if 107 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: we had have done that, when the UK had a 108 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: problem with astrosenica, they just switched people over to Maderna 109 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: because they had those options there. It's risk management basically, 110 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: if you're not sure. And it's fair enough that people 111 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: weren't sure about how these vaccines would go. People weren't 112 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: even sure that mr Anda vaccines would work at this 113 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: time last year, but other countries had deals done and 114 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: in place in order to manage the risk. Were of course, 115 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: we're trying to produce our own vaccine in Queensland. That 116 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't work unfortunately with the CSIRO. But we didn't we 117 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: didn't do that. We're too busy boasting and the government 118 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: slapping itself on the back and saying it was the 119 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: head of the queue and that simply wasn't true. 120 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's great to talk to you, Anthony. And by 121 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: the way, thank you for the craft beer the Albow 122 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: corn Ale. I enjoyed. That was very nice. 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh, very good. Yeah they sent me yeah, well that 124 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: was that was after a mention. So you've done well. 125 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: You'll probably get it. 126 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: Might be like Christian Cristiano Ronaldo might be like, you know, 127 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: building up the share price of corn Ale. 128 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: Oh you can dream of peace sponsorship dollars. 129 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a bit of a dream. Well, 130 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: it's nice to talk to you. Thank you. Leader of 131 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: the opposition ant in the Albanize. 132 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jonesy and Amanda's