1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon, and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Bungelung Calcoton woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily Os. It's Friday, 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: the sixth of October. 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: I'm Zara and I'm Emma Gillespie. I'm the deputy editor 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: here at the Daily. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Os and today we've got something a little different for 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: you because it is Friday after all, right. 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: M yep, the rumors are true. There is a crisis 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: unfolding in France and I am literally itching to talk 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: about bed bugs. 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: Is Paris a city of love or a city of bugs? 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: I'd be a bit reluctant to be sitting on seats 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: where I don't. 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: Need to be sitting. 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: In Paris Olympics less than a year away. 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Authorities have declared war on the parasites. That's right. If 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: you are still with us and not feeling too itchy, 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: France is dealing with a huge bedbug infestation. It sparked 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: widespread public health concerns, forced schools to close, and raised 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: concerns ahead of the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics. We'll 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: tell you everything you need to know soon. That first 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: m What is making headlines today. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: Australia's new one dollar coins featuring King Charles the Third 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: will begin circulating before the end of the year. It 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: follows an announcement by the Royal Australian Mint on Thursday 31 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: with our first look at the new coin. Following the 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 3: death of Queen Elizabeth, Other coins, as well as banknotes 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: with the new monarch, will be progressively rolled out next year, 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: but older currency with the queen's image can still continue 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 3: to be used. 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: FIFA has given Australia less than a month to challenge 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: a bid from Saudi Arabia for the twenty thirty four 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 2: Men's World Cup. It comes after football's global governing body 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: announced the hosts for the twenty thirty World Cup. The 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: tournament will be hosted by six host nations spanning Europe, 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Africa and South America, coinciding with the events one hundredth anniversary. 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: September twenty twenty three was the world's hottest month on record. 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: That's according to the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service. 44 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: Average temperatures around the world reached close to sixteen point 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: five degrees celsius last month. That's half a degree above 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: the previous warmest September temperature. 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: And the good news, the Men's Quicker World Cup is 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: officially underway. Defending champions England faced off against New Zealand 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: in the opening match of the tournament, with Australia to 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: play hosts India on Sunday night. Australia is the most 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: successful nation at the World Cup, having won five tournaments 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: in the past. 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: France's government is holding crisis talks as the country grapples 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: to take control of a bedbug infestation. 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: We are seeing unfortunate for us and hearing a lot 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: of reports about bedbugs literally everywhere, on trains, in movie 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: theaters and at airports. What on earth is going on? 58 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: So, as you mentioned, social media has been inundated in 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: the last few weeks with images and videos of people 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: from all over France, but especially in Paris, where the 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: outbreak is particularly bad, sharing their bedbug discoveries. There are 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: some truly horrifying fines. And if you're feeling brave enough 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: to search the pune de l hashtag that's the French 64 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: word for bedbugs, you can see them yourself. But we're 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: talking bedbugs in cities, rural areas, in schools, on transport. 66 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: To give you a sense of the scale of this, 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: a recent study found more than one in ten French 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: households have a bedbug problem. Now that study was based 69 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: on data between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty two, so 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: that number could be even higher. Now given this outbreak. 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm very lucky to have never had to deal with 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: bedbugs firsthand. So can you tell me a bit about 73 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: these bugs themselves? Like what is the major issue here? 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: So first of all, I'll tell you what bedbugs actually are. 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: So we're talking about tiny parasites. They're around five millimeters long, 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: so like you know, smaller than an apple seed, and 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: they live in places like mattresses, you know, hence the 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: name bedbugs couches. They like dark, quiet places, and they 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: feed on human blood, it has to be said, mainly 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: at night. And at that point they become larger in size, 81 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: dark in color. They lay lots of tiny eggs in 82 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: our mattresses and couches, and they hatch and then the 83 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: cycle continues. But they also move around a lot, usually 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: on us humans as their transport, and that's part of 85 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: the problem. And when it comes to these infestations, the 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: newborn bedbugs are barely visible to humans. So France's health 87 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: department has actually flagged that this week and it said 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: by the time and infestation is detected, the outbreak may 89 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 3: already be quite significant. 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: That is a visual that I didn't think I needed, 91 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: but there you go. So how do people usually discover 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: they've got a bedbug outbreak? So some people. 93 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: Might notice bedbug bites on their skin, itchy red bumps, 94 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: kind of like small mosquito bites, or you might see 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: signs of them in your bedding. And speaking of images 96 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: that are disturbing, this image is of rusty or reddish 97 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: stains on bedsheets or mattresses caused by the bugs being squished. 98 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: And then there are those people who find actual live 99 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: bedbugs in their homes, in which case you know, there's 100 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: no mistaking it. You are in bedbug trouble. 101 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: You are okay. So let's take this back to France, 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: because that's the reason we're talking about it today. So 103 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: how have things escalated in France this week? How does 104 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: there become you know, this major nationwide issue. 105 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: So we've really seen this evolve in Frants not just 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: into a public health issue, but also into a political 107 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 3: one with plenty of leaders, you know, kind of trying 108 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: to get the government's attention to take this seriously. So 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 3: the Deputy mayor of Paris, his name is Emmanuel Gregoire, 110 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: he wants a government task force to be established to 111 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: manage this outbreak, which he says is significantly widespread. He 112 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: told local TV no one is safe from catching bedbugs 113 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: or from bringing them home. And in Francis federal government, 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: an opposition MP even brought a small plastic vial of 115 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: bedbugs to a sitting to raise awareness of the issue. 116 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: I would love to know how he saurce that, like 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: it just went home quart a bug brought it into 118 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: work the next day. 119 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: Can you imagine. 120 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so someone is bringing in a vial of bugs, right, 121 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: and you know there's this political pressure that's mounting. How 122 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: has the government actually responded to those calls? 123 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this week the French government said it would 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 3: meeting with multiple cabinet ministers to discuss the best ways 125 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: to take action, and at the same time we've got 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: Franci's transport minister who has met with transport and airport operators. 127 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: He announced sniffer dogs from that meeting to help inspect 128 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: trains on the Paris Metro and also across the country 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: for bedbugs, but he denies that any bed bugs are 130 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: on trains, despite videos on social media telling us maybe 131 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: a bit of a different story there. Transport operators will 132 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: also boost health procedures to try and tackle the issue, 133 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: but there really is no quick fix when it comes 134 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: to getting rid of bedbugs, so it could be quite 135 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: a while before they're able to get this under control. 136 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of talk about the Paris Olympics, 137 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: and I want to understand what the concern there is, 138 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: mostly because I'm taking my honeymoon at the time that 139 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: that was hapening. I just really want to know if 140 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: it's going to be under control by then. 141 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: I knew we'd find a way to give you reason 142 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: to care about the bed buds exactly. 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: It is selfish and self indulgent. 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: So Paris is hosting the Olympics, the Summer Olympics next 145 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: June and with so many visitors coming to Paris for that, 146 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: you know, from tourists to athletes. The city is expecting 147 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: a mass of people, and the Deputy mayor is sort 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: of saying that this is going to become a health 149 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: and safety issue for the Games, and he wrote an 150 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: open letter to Emmanuel Macron, the President of France, urging 151 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: the government to put in an action plan specifically ahead 152 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: of the Olympics. But you know, that is still a 153 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: while off. In the meantime, we've got things like the 154 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup underway in France right now. Paris Fashion 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: Week is happening too, so the fallout from that will 156 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: give a decent indication of, you know, what they're up 157 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: against when it comes to hosting thousands of international visitors 158 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: at a time. For now, though, you know, there are 159 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: potentially millions of French residents dealing with this problem in 160 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: their homes. 161 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: Okay, so speaking of the World Cup and Fashion Week, 162 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: has the problem spread internationally because presumably if you're walking 163 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: around and you have these bed bugs and they're transporting themselves, 164 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, via humans or via public transport, this could 165 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: potentially go on a plane or a boat or any 166 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: other mode of transport. 167 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: Exactly, and you know any global city where there are 168 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: people coming in and out from overseas. Internationally, there are 169 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: bedbugs all over the world, but it's not looking great 170 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: on the containment front. In France, it has to be said. 171 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: Local media in Morocco have reported bed bugs that were 172 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: found on a passenger ship that came in from Marseilles. 173 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: A passenger on board the Eurostar train, a service from 174 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: London to Paris, posted images of what looked like bedbugs 175 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: to social media. Last week. Eurostar said they were doing 176 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: a deep clean on their trains, and the UK actually 177 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: reported a sixty five percent increase in year on year 178 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: bedbugs infestations only in August, so they've got their own outbreak. 179 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: Bedbugs in Australia, I know we're all thinking it. They're 180 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: relatively common, but there hasn't been any news yet on 181 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: a spike. It will definitely be interesting though, to see 182 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: how things play out after everyone you know, goes back 183 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: home from the World carp and Fashion Week. I also 184 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: do want a flag. I think it's important to sort 185 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: of mythbust this idea that bedbugs are a problem for 186 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: dirty people. You could be the cleanest person in the 187 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: world and still get them. And that's what experts are 188 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: telling us. These things really don't care who you are. 189 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: They just want your blood. 190 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: My goodness. What a note to end of Friday podcast 191 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: on and thanks for joining me today. And if you 192 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: learn something from this episode or you're terrified like I am, 193 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: let us know. Next week we're gonna have a bit 194 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: of a different sounding podcast and that is because it 195 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: is the week leading up to the referendum, so we 196 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: are going to dedicate all five days to understanding the 197 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: road to the referendum, how we got here and what 198 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: you need to know. 199 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: And if you are in Sydney and you happen to 200 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: be free on Monday, that's the ninth of October, we're 201 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: actually putting on a little event in Paddington at the 202 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: Imperial Hotel Politics in the Pub. Zara is going to 203 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: be joined by First Nations ABC journalists Carli Williams and 204 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: Isabella Higgins for a free event to answer your questions 205 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: all about the Voice referendum. For more information and to RSVP, 206 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: there is a link in the show notes. 207 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: Have a fabulous weekend,