1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: This is outspoken. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torbah. We're identical triplets, 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: but we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: and issues facing women. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: That is so fetch thank you. 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I kind of am liking the vibe here at your house, Amy, 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: because for those who aren't aware, we are back recording 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: at Amy's house after a incident at Sophie's house on Friday. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: I think, as everybody knows, Sophie has had construction going 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: on and there was a bit of an incident on 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Friday that we didn't touch on the podcast. When you 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: were saying incident, we mean there was a big fight 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: between three of us, which meant Amy and I. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Were like, stuff it. 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: We're taking the podcast equipment to Amy's house and we're 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: not recording here anymore. I do recall Sa've be telling 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: us to get out of our house, and that's what 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: we did. We took the podcast to my house, and 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: I think it's been a good move. Well, to be fair, 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: I actually told you to take the podcast treatment for 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: my house because I did not want it happening there anymore. 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: I have to say I was very sleep deprived. We 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: had a huge week last week with our clients, and 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: I was running on adrenaline. So it was so funny 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: because Dale, I don't think knows that the recording is 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: happening here, and he's about to walk in surprise, we're back. 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm just so happy that my house is so far 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: away that we can't record there, because yeah, I don't 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: think it would be good for my relationship, to be honest, 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: because there's a lot of scrutiny around whoever's house the 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: recording is at. I mean, people get picked on if. 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: They get loud and noisy. 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: No, you're not just that you had to go it 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: so last week because there wasn't the type of tea 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: that you liked at home. No, there was no milk. 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: Do you know what. I'm going to stop stressing now 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: because the amount of times I got yelled at when 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: there was not toilet paper or the right soap in 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: the bathroom. I have three bathrooms. I mean, I'm making 42 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: my house sound like it's huge. It's not as a townhouse, 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: and there's three bathrooms, and I'm sorry, I can't around 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: to put toilet paper in every single one. 45 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: We say three. 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: Bathrooms, there's an en suite, normal bathroom, and then like, 47 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 2: what do they call it a water closet. It's literally 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: a toilet But every time I went to the toilet 49 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: there was no toilet paper. That infuriates me. And so 50 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: if you'd be like, I've got to get it anyway, 51 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: there's plenty of toilet paper here. I've got milk in 52 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: the fridge, and milk I don't eat. Can you put 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: oat milk next time? I'd like a kombucher. Amy Well, 54 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: talking about food and beg Judd has called out her 55 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: family for stealing her bananas. 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: That sounds really weird, isn't it. 57 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: So Beck actually goes to the extent of writing her 58 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: name on the banana to stop her kids, and I'm 59 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: assuming her husband Chris not eat the food, but apparently 60 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: it's not working for her. I feel like most parents 61 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: would be trying to force their children to eat bananas. 62 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: They must have a very healthy household. I feel like 63 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: Brandon needs to do this in your household because I 64 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: keep hearing that you steal his bad food. 65 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: Say his banana. 66 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: I was, no, I don't steal his bad food. I'm 67 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: the one that buys all of the bad food. But 68 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: like friends, if we have drumsticks or cornettos in the fridge, 69 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: what I just love how you're the house that has 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: drumsticks and cornettos. They're the mini ones. Anyway. I sometimes 71 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: would be known to eat the one that was supposed 72 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: to be hit. But in saying that I've purchased all 73 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: of them, what geez, do. 74 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: You charge him for it as well? Like, oh, this 75 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: one costs two dollars, So no, no, I don't go 76 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: that far. 77 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: I do agree with Beck though, there is nothing more 78 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: infuriating than when somebody does steal something that you've had 79 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: your eye on. Oh it is the worst, And I 80 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: feel bad because I'm usually that person that does it 81 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: in our house. I have been known. Also does anyone 82 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: else do this? There's a bag of chips or something, 83 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: and you feel bad for eating all of them, so 84 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: you literally leave like one at the bottom, And Reese 85 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: would come and open the bag and be like. 86 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Really, like, why don't you just eat it and put 87 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: it in the bin? 88 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: See I if that happens to me, I more try 89 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: and dispose of the evidence, so it looks like there 90 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: were never chips there to begin with. 91 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the best idea. 92 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, we're recording in here, I just didn't have time 93 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: to put in. 94 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: Sorry, I feel bad. 95 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: Why did you so much? 96 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: Play? 97 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: I'm welcome to us Spoken the podcast where we talk 98 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: about Beck Judd's. 99 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: Banana Australian TikTok family. The Polls are the latest influencers 100 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: to promote cryptocurrency to their young and impressionable followers. The 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: controversial family aren't the only ones encouraging jen zs to invest, though, 102 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: with influencer back promotions helping cryptocurrency prices search. Okay, can 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: you tell us about the Paul family's promotion? 104 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 105 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: So, Addis Paul, alongside his sister Anna and his girlfriend 106 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: Mikayla Tester, took to their Instagram stories on Tuesday to 107 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: promote the new cryptocurrency hush coin. So the move really 108 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: sparked any followers to hypothesize that Adis may be the 109 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: creator of hush cooin, as he previously had an OnlyFans 110 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: account to give financial advice despite having no background in finance. 111 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: Addis and his family have denied claims that they actually 112 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: do own the coin, and they said that they were 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: just trying. 114 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: To help their followers out. 115 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: So Anna jumped on her Instagram story and wrote, hush cooin. 116 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Go here now and grab yourself some hush coins. You're 117 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: some of the first to find out about this one 118 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: great project, excellent team, low price, fresh will Moon, and 119 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: after the post, she shared a video telling people to 120 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: go buy it. This is what she said. 121 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 6: I got into dot when it just dropped, when it 122 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 6: was like zero point zero zero zero something since and 123 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 6: I didn't post it on my story, and I regret 124 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 6: that so much because I could have helped so many 125 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 6: people make money, and I'm not making that mistake again. 126 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 6: Go hush it just dropped, And this time I've actually 127 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 6: gont to tell you because I want to help you 128 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 6: make money. This is non ad I'm honestly just trying 129 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 6: to help, so yeah, swipe. 130 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: Up by Adis also shared a screenshot of his account 131 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: on Instagram with the figure forty eight thousand and two, 132 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: two hundred and nineteen dollars and he wrote, thirty eighty 133 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: two hundred and nineteen dollars profit from a ten K 134 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: investment in three weeks. I've been researching crypto for a long, 135 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: long time, ten plus hours a day. I've made my 136 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: family so much fucking money this year. You'll all have 137 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: been asking for it. 138 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: So it's time to. 139 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: Share this shit with everyone. Private group launching tonight. Do 140 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: not sleep on this. This just reminds me of all 141 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: those business coaches who are like, oh, once you start 142 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: up your e commerce site, you're going to see all 143 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: this money. It's very identical. 144 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. 145 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: And even Addis's girlfriend, Mikayla Tester, who has over one 146 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: point two million Instagram followers, wrote on her story and 147 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: anyone that's been keeping tabs on my crypto stories, no, 148 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: I be talking about a coin well before it even 149 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: pops off. My followers are constantly dming me, thanking me 150 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: for the bag I made them. I might look like 151 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: just some big booty instagal, but I've got a big 152 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: brain too, and I'm telling your hush is the next thing. 153 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: I can see why people think that they have something 154 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: to do with this cryptocurrency, because they're pushing. 155 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: It, aren't they. 156 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's no hashtag of ad or anything like that, 157 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: so it's either that they own the coin and it's 158 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: sort of profitable for them to get people to be 159 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: purchasing it, or they're being paid by hush to promote it, 160 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: and in either scenario they are heavily profiting from their 161 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: followers buying this coin. Yeah, and they have denied that 162 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: they are the owners of the coin. I don't know 163 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: whether they've actually addressed whether they might be investors in it, 164 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: but they have flat out said we don't own it. 165 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: I feel like there would have been a pretty mixed 166 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: response to these sort of posts going up. Okay, what 167 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: has it been like. Yeah, the response has been mixed. 168 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: There have been a lot of young, impressionable followers sort 169 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: of asking more questions about how they purchased the coin, 170 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: and then there's also been a lot of negative comments. 171 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Some followers have called hush coin the fire Festival for crypto. 172 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: There's also been some followers who are accusing the crypto 173 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: currency as being a pump and dump scheme. It is 174 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: where investors artificially inflate the price of bitcoin or old 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: coin for the sole purpose of selling at a profit, 176 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: thus scamming other innocent crypto investors. And just to clarify, 177 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: we are not accusing the polls of doing this. This 178 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: has been commentary about other cryptocurrency that people have exactly right. 179 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: This is commentary around a lot of influencer led and 180 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: promoted cryptocurrency, and this sort of pump and dump scheme 181 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: idea actually came from the penny stocks. So you might 182 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: recall in the movie Wolf of Wall Street with Leonardo 183 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: DiCaprio that he made a lot of money and got 184 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble over exploiting penny stocks on 185 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: Wall Street. And this practice is now illegal on the 186 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: stock market, so this practice is currently being used in bitcoin. Well, 187 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: I actually think this type of promotion is really troubling 188 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 2: because when you look at the polls followers, they are 189 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: very young, they are very impressionable. I'd love to hear 190 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Sophie and Kate what you both think of it all. Well, 191 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: I do find it very strange that a lot of 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: these influencers, including addas, have absolutely no qualifications in finance, 193 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: and yet they are telling impressionable teenagers that they should 194 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: sign up to cryptocurrency when they have no research in it. 195 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he has stated here that he spent hours 196 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: upon hours researching it, but what googling it? Yeah, And 197 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: I feel like cryptocurrency is such a confusing thing like, 198 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: I have done a lot of research into it for 199 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: this segment, and I still really don't understand what it is, 200 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 2: and there's so many intricacies, and as you said, there's 201 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there saying, well, I study 202 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: it every day for ten hours plus. And it troubles 203 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: me the influencers are promoting this type of cryptocurrency because 204 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people will look at an influencer and 205 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: see money and an amazing lifestyle, and they will put 206 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: that down to the cryptocurrency that they are promoting. However, 207 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: if this influencer is paid to promote the cryptocurrency, there's 208 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: no affiliation, like they're telling you to buy, and it 209 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: seems like a really false narrative to make these people 210 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: believe that they're going to get rich quick off it. 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: What I really don't like is a lot of these 212 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: influencers are passing it off as though they are helping 213 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: their followers and giving them this great financial advice, when 214 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: it's really clear that they're only in it for themselves 215 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: to make more money off the back of it. Yeah, 216 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: and for me, it's really troubling when you go on 217 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: the hush coin website because there is a step by 218 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: step instructions of how to actually purchase the coin, because 219 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: clearly is quite a complex process. So it's hard when 220 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: they say, oh, we're just giving advice, but when you 221 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: go on the website, it's literally telling you in black 222 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: and white, this is what you need to do. So 223 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: how old do you actually have to be to be 224 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: able to purchase hush coin in some of these other cryptocurrencies, 225 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: because I would assume that a lot of the. 226 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Poll's followers are quite young. 227 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you actually have to be eighteen and over. However, 228 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: there are stories of teenagers stealing their parents' credit cards 229 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: to purchase cryptocurrency. Well, it actually gets worse because on Friday, 230 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: at Is revealed that he created a new group for 231 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: learning crypto, which costs ninety nine dollars a month. Yeah. 232 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: So the package is actually called Bullish Crypto Calls, and 233 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: it is described as a best selling standard crypto package. 234 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: The package includes unlocking full entry into the community of 235 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: successful investors, two interactive Q and A's week, Addis's personal 236 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: picks of the hottest coins to add to your portfolio, 237 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: and daily updates on the status of Addis's coins and amy. 238 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: As you said, this costs ninety nine US dollars a month, 239 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: so that equates to twelve hundred dollars a year. Can 240 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,479 Speaker 2: we just point out again that he has no financial 241 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: qualifications at all, yet he is holding these courses as 242 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: if he is some sort of professional. 243 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 5: Well. 244 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: Following the poll's promotion of hush cooin Love Island, Australian 245 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: contestant Vanessa Sierra took to her Instagram story and she 246 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: warned followers about the dangers of investing in cryptocurrency, more 247 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: specifically those cryptocurrencies being promoted by influencers. Vanessa also went 248 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: on to call influencers promoting cryptocurrency as money hungry and 249 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: urged her followers not to be fooled by their claims. 250 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: Here's a clip of what she said on her Instagram story. 251 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 7: Okay, I just want to explain to you guys what's 252 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 7: going to happen with these types of coins, because literally, 253 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 7: anyone can start crypto. Anyone can start a new coin. 254 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,239 Speaker 7: It's not a hard process. So you've got the developers 255 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 7: and the early investors. And by early investors, I don't 256 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 7: mean early investors by swiping up on someone's link, but 257 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 7: the people who already invested in it prior the coin 258 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 7: will spike. It absolutely will while everyone's investing in it. 259 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 7: But you've got the whales, which are the people who 260 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 7: hold a huge amount of the coin, and they're usually 261 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 7: the developer and the people who were there before they 262 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 7: started advertising, and as soon as the coin spikes, those 263 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 7: people are going to pull their money out, and that's 264 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 7: how you lose your money. 265 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: So these influences are going to push. 266 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 7: The spike and be like, look told you so, blah 267 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 7: blah blah, and they're not going to post about when 268 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 7: it dips, and you're not going to know when it dips. 269 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 7: So be super careful about these coins because you don't 270 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 7: know who's behind them. 271 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: I found it really interesting that Vanessa Sierra weighed in 272 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: on this because we've been seeing a lot of negative 273 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: press around her recently with her dating Bernard Tomic and 274 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: all of that drama that went in during her quarantining 275 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: with him in the hotel. So it's really nice to 276 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: see this side of Vanessa and the fact that she 277 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: was trying to urge others not to get sucked into 278 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: these type of promotions. What I really want to know 279 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: is it actually legal to promote cryptocurrency on social media? 280 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: Was really interesting because on Thursday, the Morrison government commented 281 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: on the wave of influencers providing unlicensed financial advice, and 282 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: their comments followed a number of financial experts who have 283 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: come forward to warn of the risks involved in people 284 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: listening to this unsolicited advice from social media influencers. So 285 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: Financial Services Minister Jane Hume played down the seriousness of 286 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: the issue, which really surprised me. So during his speech 287 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: on Thursday, she compared influencers giving financial advice to the 288 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: advice given by Barefoot investor Scott Pape All Money Magazine's 289 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: Paul cliff Row. Now this was wrong on so many 290 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: levels because both these men actually have financial licenses and 291 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: were legally qualified to speak on those topics. And to me, 292 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: it makes no sense for her to make these comparisons 293 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: unless she was comparing these men to somebody, for example, 294 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: like Victoria Devine, who could be considered a financial influencer. 295 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: She actually has the qualifications, but if you're comparing it 296 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: to somebody like Addis Paul, it's an absolutely ridiculous comparison. Well, 297 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: it's quite clear that she has no understanding of an 298 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: influencer's job and how powerful they are at persuading young 299 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: people as well as adults to do things and to 300 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: purchase things. And I think it is quite alarming that 301 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: the government is not taking this seriously. I mean, we've 302 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: seen it with the very lax rules regarding having to 303 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: say whether an AD is actually an AD or a 304 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: paid partnership. Well, Minister Hume went on to say, the 305 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: TikTok influencer spooking Nokia is not that different to the 306 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: bloke down at the pub who wants to tell you 307 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: all about the really great company he just invested in, 308 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: but with a much louder voice. God, it shows how 309 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: disconnected she is to the social media world. Considering she's 310 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: referencing Nokia, she might as well said, you know Tom 311 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: from MySpace promoting Nokia. I find this comparison completely perplexing 312 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: because someone promoting a phone like a Nokia is completely 313 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: different to someone giving actual advice on where to invest 314 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: someone's money, which is an ongoing thing. 315 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 316 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: Well, the minister went on to say, this isn't financial advice, 317 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: but has been the case since taxi drivers started giving 318 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: stock tips. It's an inevitable part of a financial ecosystem. 319 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: Some of the information opinions that consumers receive from online 320 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: forums will be bad, but some of it will be 321 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: good and a lot of it will better engage younger 322 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: generations in investment and financial markets. And while it is 323 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: frustrating for investment professionals to watch, at some point we 324 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: have to let people make their own decisions. It's about 325 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: personal responsibility and common sense. Now, just back to the 326 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: minister's comments about influences being similar to the guy at. 327 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: The pub giving you advice. 328 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: Does she realize what power influencers possess because these influencers, 329 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: a lot of them are being paid to promote the cryptocurrencies. 330 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: You know, Bob down at the pub isn't being paid 331 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: to tell you about his investments, so it's completely different. 332 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: But also Bob the pub probably isn't juxtapositioning his life 333 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: online with the look of luxury with his rolelex watch 334 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: as he's telling you how much money he's made. This 335 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: is such a joke because influencers are benefiting financially from 336 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: either giving this information or spooking their own coin. Well, 337 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: it just shows you how ou to touch the government 338 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: is on this issue, and the minister's comments are really 339 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: surprising to me because the corporate regulator raised these concerns 340 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: about misinformation and unlicensed investment advice from influencers, and this 341 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: is how she's responded. And they even said that this 342 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: advice is impacting young traders. It's bloody terrible. I don't 343 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: know if it makes anyone feel better, but it's not 344 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: just happening in Australia. So some of America's biggest influencers 345 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: are being paid to promote cryptocurrency. So earlier this month, 346 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: TikTok star Charlie Dmilio received an undisclosed seventeenth birthday present 347 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: from cryptocurrency app Gemini, so Charlie's family shared on their 348 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: Demilio family Instagram account a picture of Charlie has to 349 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: Dixie and the parents sitting around the computer with the 350 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: caption we're learning more about cryptocurrency as a family. Thank 351 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: you Gemini for Charlie's birthday gift hashtag Gemini partner. Interestingly, 352 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: Charlie didn't share a post to her page about the gift, 353 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: which is probably because she's actually not even old enough 354 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: to use the Gemini app, so you have to be 355 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: eighteen or over to use the app, and it was 356 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: only her seventeenth birthday, so a spokesperson for the Gemini 357 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: app said that they regularly work with the influencer community 358 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: to help educate their followers about cryptocurrency and promote the 359 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: Geminia brand. It is really interesting that these cryptocurrencies are 360 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: targeting that youth audience because you can see that a cryptocurrency, 361 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: because there is so much risk involved in it and 362 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: it is all online, that would interest younger people. It's 363 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: kind of like when mc donald's brought out happy meals 364 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: to get kids in young It's kind of like, we 365 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: want to use the biggest TikTokers to get kids sucked 366 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: into cryptocurrency at a young age so they continue to 367 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: use it when they get older. Well, that's exactly what 368 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: they're doing. Amy According to Insider Intelligence, jen Z will 369 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: be the largest US consumer market by twenty twenty six 370 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: with eighty two million people. So this is the reason 371 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: why cryptocurrencies are utilizing influencers to promote their coin, because 372 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: they're trying to leverage the relationship these influencers have with 373 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: gen Z. And it's really this parasocial relationship that influencers 374 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: build with their audience that they're trying to I suppose exploit, 375 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: which will allow crypto ventures to expand their reach because 376 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, influencers build this very 377 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: personable relationship and you feel like they're your friends. So 378 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: if they're investing in hush cooin, then you're like, oh, 379 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: maybe I should too. Is it just me or have 380 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: you guys seen it step up on social media recently? 381 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: Because every time I go on my Insta stories, I 382 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: see some influencer talking about cryptocurrencies. Because Mitchell Orviell's been 383 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 2: a big one and he's been recommending different cryptocurrencies and 384 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: really giving the story of you know, what he's investing in. 385 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: I've really never seen that as much promotion around it 386 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: until recently. I've literally only noticed it in the last month, 387 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: And I kind of find it funny as you said 388 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: that these cryptocurrencies are going after jen Z, because previously 389 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: celebrities have been used to promote cryptocurrency. So everyone kind 390 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: of thinks of Elon Musk when they think of bitcoin 391 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: because he has been very prolific in helping that cryptocurrency grow. 392 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: So in January he put in his Twitter bio hashtag 393 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: bitcoin and since then the coins price jumped six thousand 394 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: dollars in one hour. Well, it's kind of like the 395 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: new teeth whitener for influences, as in, it's a new 396 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: thing for them to be promoting because it is seen 397 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: as being this it thing now, it's really clever marketing. 398 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: Well, I have to go to a new school make 399 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: new friends. 400 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: But Jan, you don't have any friends. 401 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: So if you've come to Amy and I with a 402 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: new segment, so we'll see how this lands. It is 403 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: the cringiest social media moment of the week. 404 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Who are the vic this story? 405 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: Well, they're actually eighteen year old twins Max and Harvey 406 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: Mills and they are huge on TikTok. They have six 407 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: point three million followers. Have you guys heard of them before? 408 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 2: Because I have never heard of it. I feel very 409 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 2: old because I've got no idea who they are. I 410 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: just imagine those twins that were on the Twins on Friends. 411 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 2: It's not them. So you will be feeling a bit 412 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: older in a second when you hear the rest of 413 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: this story. So the boys were interviewed on the podcast 414 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: Private Parts, which is hosted by Jamie and Francis, who 415 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: you might remember from the reality show Made in Chelsea 416 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: and France's other claim to fame is that he actually 417 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: dated Emma Watson for a little while. I love that 418 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 2: you're pretending that you know who these people are. Because 419 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: Sophie recommended it, I listened to their interview because they 420 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: spoke to influencer Saffron Baker and. 421 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: I listened to it. I was like, oh my god, 422 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: it's the Maid in Chelsea. Guys. 423 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: Can I ask who they are? Because I can't. I 424 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: love that show, but I can't with the bleach bonde 425 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: hair Jamie and he now runs a sweet business in 426 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: the UK. And also, so Francis, is that really really 427 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: posh one that had businesses? 428 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: And so said David Emma Watson, that guy, Yeah, I do, okay, 429 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: I know you're talking about Sophie. 430 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: Now you know who you're Well they looked a lot 431 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: older in the album cover, just to say, what are 432 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: you do? Well, they're thirty two, so they're the same age, 433 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: so they're young. They're young still. Yeah. So basically they 434 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: were having a chat to the boys about how they 435 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: made it big on TikTok and also their chime as 436 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: child actors. So it was actually at this point of 437 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: the interview that I felt really old. Let's play the clip. 438 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: We actually did this one series when we were like 439 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: twin babies with Martin Klune's called what was it called 440 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: will William? Yeah, it was called William and Mary and 441 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 5: it was just like this sort of it was like 442 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: a soap opera. 443 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: I guess. 444 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 5: I don't really know. It didn't you know, it only 445 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 5: did like three series or something. 446 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 6: You thought you were going to be Mary Cage and Ashley. 447 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 5: We're like, we're going to be the new Mary Cage Ashley. 448 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: You didn't know who that is? 449 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: No clue. I was just. 450 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: Agreeing, is that way? Can I can? I guess and 451 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: I'm probably wrong. 452 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: Is it? 453 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 5: Is it fuller House? 454 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: Is it like full House? 455 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? Am I completely wrong? Full House? Is it full House? 456 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 457 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: The whole House they were there were kids in full House. 458 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah I thought so. But I've got no clue. 459 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 5: I'm just guessing with these twin girls that that when 460 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 5: I was younger, we always used to fancy them and. 461 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 4: They were so hard right like our age. 462 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 6: And I feel it, but they were. 463 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: This is when we I was like seven or something like. 464 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: They were the first girls I fell in love with, 465 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: I think, and they were twins, so it's so cool. 466 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: Who the fuck doesn't know who the Olsen twins are, 467 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: What the hell these kids need an education on pop culture? 468 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: I feel well. 469 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: I actually asked Brandon before you recorded this. I said, 470 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: you know who Mary, Kate and Ashley are, don't you? 471 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: And He's like, ummmm, those twins. So he's five years 472 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: younger than us. So I don't know. Maybe we just 473 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: fell at the perfect time to know them. 474 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: Really, so that he knows of them. He's not watching 475 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: their bloody New York Minute. 476 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: Your boyfriend is twenty six, not eighteen. Twenty seven, sorry, 477 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: twenty seven not eighteen. I feel like we've got to 478 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: educate any gens editors who may have stumbled across this podcast. 479 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: So the Olsen twins were soon stars back in the day, 480 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: so they found fame on full House, not Fuller House, 481 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: as one of the twins suggested. They've been in countless 482 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: TV shows, movies like New York Minute. They even had 483 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: their own clothing line and magazine. Now this magazine is 484 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: bloody hilarious to look back on. Now, you know how 485 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: all of those magazines when we were teenagers had really 486 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: problematic headlines. So now you look back at and cringe. 487 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Do you guys want to hear some of the funny 488 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: headlines that they had on the front cover. Yeah, I 489 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: actually think I bought this magazine someone who cringe hort 490 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: at this. So one of the really insightful articles was 491 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: You're better looking than you think. Jeez. 492 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 493 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: They also had some exclusive insight into one of Aaron 494 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: Carter's parties. 495 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: Was Aaron Carter the one I know. 496 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: There was this love triangle between Aaron Carter, Hillary Duff 497 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: and Lindsay Lohan and it kind of had Hillary and 498 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: Lindsay hating each other. 499 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, I have to share with you. 500 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 2: Just to finish off with another really insightful piece in 501 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: their magazine, and it was interviewing high school boys about 502 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: what characteristics turning off from a girl, and I had 503 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: to chuck a lit a few of these ross said, 504 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: I hate girls who were superficial, sit around for hours 505 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: and talk about themselves. 506 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: How fake are these names? 507 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: As well? No, they actually have photos of the diys. 508 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: They have photos of them. So Evan said he hates 509 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: someone who smokes, is passive, disorganized, closed minded, lazy, and shy. 510 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: Is this like what age demographic is this for? 511 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Is this like fourteen? 512 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Did he also pray for a skinny wife? 513 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 6: Oh? 514 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: Gosh. 515 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: Kate is of course referring to Kurt Tills's vows, which 516 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: was in his wedding video with Sarah's Day. Yeah, well 517 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: people should know because we spoke about it on Fridays. 518 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm just prefacing it. I have to also point out 519 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: this last dream boat Matt who said they turn me 520 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: off when all they do is complain if they are 521 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: pretty loud or if they. 522 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: Put others down. 523 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: So you should see the photos of these guys though 524 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: they look so young. It's funny because I don't think 525 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: that would sort of fly now in magazines because it's 526 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: what guys saying, how horrible girls are. Yeah, they're terrible traits. 527 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it'd be loud for us. 528 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: The themous fmous Canadian professor Avril lavin Stein once said, 529 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 4: and I quote, why do you have to go and 530 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: meet things so complicated? 531 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: Prince William and Prince Harry have slammed the BBC, labeling 532 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: it as unethical. After an independent inquiry into the public 533 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: broadcaster's explosive interview with Princess Diana in nineteen ninety five. 534 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: The inquiry found journalist Martin Bashier had acted in a 535 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: deceitful way and fake documents to gain the Princess's trust, Amy, 536 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: can you tell us first? For those who might not remember, 537 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: what was the interview about. Well, Princess Diana's BBC Panorama 538 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: interview is often referred to as the interview of the century, 539 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: and in recent times many people have actually compared it 540 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: to Meghan and Harry's explosive tell Or interview with Oprah. 541 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: So at the time, people found it very odd that 542 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: Princess Diana had chosen to speak to Martin Bashier because 543 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: he was really a relatively unknown journalist. It's now, however, 544 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: that he was able to gain Diana's trust through deceitful measures. Well, 545 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: when I think of Mine Bashir, I obviously think about 546 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: this interview, but I also think about that explosive interview 547 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: he did with Michael Jackson. It seemed like he had 548 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: a way of smoothing these sort of high profile celebrities 549 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: into talking to him. Yeah. Well, one of the reasons 550 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: why Michael Jackson spoke to Bashier was after he saw 551 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: Basher's interview with Princess Diana. Because at the time he 552 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: was heavily praised for this interview. He won a number 553 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: of awards for it. Wow, well, what actually made this 554 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: interview so explosive was the fact it was Princess Diana's 555 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: first ever solo interview and she spoke about really controversial 556 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: topics like self harm. She spoke about how she suffered 557 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: with bulimia. She also spoke about the lack of support 558 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: she received from the royal family, as well as questioning 559 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: whether Prince Charles would handle being king. And she also 560 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: discussed her own affair as well as Prince Charles's affair 561 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: with Camilla Parker Bowls. So you guys might remember Diana 562 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: said the famous quote, well there were three of us 563 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: in this marriage, so it was. 564 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: A bit crowded. 565 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: Now, these were sort of groundbreaking claims at the time 566 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: because not many people knew about this affair, even though 567 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: it was obviously going on for so long. And also 568 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 2: talking about things like self harm and bulimia were just 569 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: things that weren't discussed in nineteen ninety five. So it 570 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: was a real trail blazing interview for Princess Diana, and 571 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: to have a member of the royal family speak out 572 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: like this, people had never seen it before. Well, a 573 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: lot of people had never heard Princess Diana's voice before, 574 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: so this was a really big moment for her. It 575 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: really was, and at the time of this interview, it 576 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: made headlines all around the world because it was an 577 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: incredibly bold move by the BBC to air this interview. 578 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: And I recently watched this amazing documentary on nine Now 579 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: about the secrecy around the interview, because, as you guys know, 580 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: the BBC is the public broadcaster in the UK, so 581 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: for them to attack the Royal Family in this way, 582 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: it was something we had never seen before. And also 583 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 2: there were a lot of people very high up at 584 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: the BBC that are close to the Royal family, so 585 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: it was really kept a secret from these high up 586 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: people at the BBC because Princess Diana feared that the 587 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: Royal family would be tipped off about the interview and 588 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: it would never make it onto television. 589 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 590 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: Well we heard Mega Markle recently telling Oprah about this 591 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: type of relationship that the Royal family have with the media, 592 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 2: so I can see why Princess Diana was so worried 593 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: about it. The key point there is the types of 594 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: media that the Royal Family have a relationship with because 595 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: they do choose certain media to give information to. Well, 596 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: the BBC had a really special relationship with the royal family. 597 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: They were the only broadcaster who aired the Queen's Christmas 598 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: Day address and the Queen was so pissed off after 599 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: this Princess Diana interview that she gave out her Christmas 600 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: Day address to every other broadcaster and said, nah, I'm 601 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: not going to keep this exclusive to you guys anymore. Well, 602 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: it obviously impacted Princess Diana in huge ways as well. 603 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: It spelled the end of her marriage and it also 604 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: resulted in her losing her Royal Highness status. Well, when 605 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: you say it lost her her marriage, I think that 606 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: was very like a decision that she had already made, 607 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: because you're not really going to go and publicly slam 608 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: your husband and the family and out his mistress without 609 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: thinking you're going to leave him. So, Amy, can you 610 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: talk us through what this independent inquiry actually found. 611 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: Well, the inquiry was. 612 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: Led by retired judge Lord Dyson, and back in nineteen 613 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: ninety six, the BBC had actually done its own internal 614 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: probe following initial complaints, which I find really ridiculous because 615 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: how hard is the ABC going to go on themselves? 616 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: Really obvious? Sorry, the BBC, Well, it's just a joke. 617 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: It's just so like a box ticking exercise to be like, oh, no, 618 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: we're looking into us, so don't worry about it. Well, 619 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: the independent inquiry found that Martin Bashier used fake bank 620 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: statements to gain Princess Diana's trust, which falsely suggested individuals, 621 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: including her former private secretary, were being paid for keeping 622 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: the princess under surveillance. The fake documents were shown to 623 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: Princess Diana's brother, Earl Spencer, in order to gain his 624 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: trust and access to his sister. And what's really disturbing 625 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: about this is Prince says Diana was already paranoid at 626 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: the time that she was being watched and followed, and 627 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: this just added to her paranoia. Well, I can see 628 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: why she would have felt that way. I mean, her 629 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: own psychologist was giving stories to the media. And on Thursday, 630 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Princess Diana's former private secretary was interviewed and he said 631 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: that the BBC interview actually destroyed the remaining links Princess 632 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: Diana had with Buckingham Palace. Now, this was the place 633 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: that had safeguarded her for so many years, and his 634 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: feeling is that it inevitably left her feeling very vulnerable. Well, 635 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: Prince Harry and Prince William, as we said, have spoken 636 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: out about the findings of this inquiry, and that was 637 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: one point that William spoke about. He said that he 638 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: believed this interview had resulted in a really poor relationship 639 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: between his father, Prince Charles and his mother Princess Diana, 640 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: because it made everything so public and he was disgusted 641 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: by the BBC. The BBC have since sent letters of 642 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: apology to both Prince William and Prince Harry, and also 643 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: Princess Diana's brother, Earl Spencer. Really got to take a 644 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: look at Prince William's statement because I found it so 645 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 2: interesting that he chose not to release a formal written 646 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: statement and instead released it as a video. And I 647 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: feel like it was a really strategic move to get 648 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: his voice out there, because we have been hearing a 649 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: lot from Prince Harry at the moment on podcasts or 650 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: in TV interviews, and I feel like it was really 651 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: a bid to humanize him more and also to express 652 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: the fact that he has also gone through a lot 653 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: of trauma with losing his mum. 654 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: It is not just Harry Well. 655 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: I think we should have listened to what Prince William said. 656 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 3: It is welcomed that the BBC accepts Lord Dyson's findings 657 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: in full, which are extremely concerning that BBC employees lied 658 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: and used fake documents to obtain the interview with my mother, 659 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: made lurid and false claims about the Royal family which 660 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: played on her fears and fueled paranoia, displayed woful incompetence 661 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: when investigating complaints and concerns about the program, and were 662 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: evasive in their reporting to the media and covered up 663 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: what they knew from their internal investigation. It is my 664 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: view that the deceitful way the interview was obtained substantially 665 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: influenced what my mother said. The interview was a major 666 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: contribution to making my parents' relationship worse and has since 667 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: hurt countless others. It brings indescribable sadness to know that 668 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 3: the BBC's failures contributed significantly to her fear, paranoia and 669 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: isolation that I remember from those final years with her. 670 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: But what saddens me most is that if the BBC 671 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: had properly investigated the complaints and concerns first raised in 672 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five, my mother would have known that she 673 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: had been deceived. She was failed, not just by a 674 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: rogue reporter, but by leaders at the BBC who looked 675 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: the other way rather than asking the tough questions. It 676 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: is my firm view that this Panorama program holds no 677 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: legitimacy and should never be aired again. 678 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: These were really strong words from Prince William. Prince Harry 679 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: also released a statement and he said the ripple effect 680 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: of a culture of exploitation and unethical practices ultimately took 681 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: his mother's life. He expressed concern such practices are still 682 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: widespread today, adding that it was bigger than one outlet, 683 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: one network, or one publication. He said, our mother lost 684 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: her life because of this and nothing has changed. By 685 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: protecting her legacy, we protect everyone and uphold the dignity 686 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: with which. 687 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: She lived her life. 688 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: Well, going back to Prince William's statement, I find it 689 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: really interesting that it seems like he's trying to remove 690 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: any blame from Prince Charles and Camilla, because he's almost 691 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: trying to suggest that Princess Diana wouldn't have made those statements, 692 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: or the statements wouldn't have been as strong about them, 693 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: if she was not being deceived by Martin Bashier. Yeah, 694 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: it seems like they're very much trying to push a 695 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: narrative that she was tricked into this interview that ended 696 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: up destroying the family. Will you notice that Prince Charles 697 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: hasn't come forward and said anything, and it appears that 698 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: he's letting his sons do the talking about Princess Diana, 699 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: which I think is incredibly respectful. I do think William 700 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: coming out and making these bold claims against the BBC 701 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: has a lot to do with repairing his father's image. 702 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: We have recently experienced the death of Prince Philip and 703 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: sadly there is talk about life after the Queen and 704 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: that obviously involves Prince Charles being king. So I think 705 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: there is a huge move by the royal family to 706 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: portray Charles in a better light, and I think this 707 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: is the start of it. 708 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: God good luck to their pr team. 709 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: I think the Crown has completely destroyed any chance of that, 710 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: along with what Prince Harry has said about his own father. 711 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: If you, as a family member, are willing to whine, 712 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: dine and give full access to these reporters, then you 713 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 3: will get better price. 714 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: In very exciting news, influencer Georgie Stevenson has announced she 715 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: and her husband Tim are expecting a baby. I was 716 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: so genuinely happy when I saw this post because Georgie 717 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: has been on our show before, during our Christmas episode, 718 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: and she is just a completely delightful human being and 719 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: someone that is so kind. So congratulations Georgie. So for 720 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: those who haven't been following Georgie's fertility journey, can you 721 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: fill us in? Well, it's really not been an easy one, 722 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: and I do take my hat off to her for 723 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: being so open and honest about it on Instagram, because 724 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the time we see people's 725 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: highlights reels, and she's been very open in sharing her 726 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: darkest moments. So Georgie was originally told that she was 727 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: not fertile because of a thyroid issue that she had, 728 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: and that she would subsequently struggle to fall pregnant, so 729 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: late last year, she was really surprised to find out 730 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: that she was in fact pregnant and she felt like 731 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 2: this pregnancy was a miracle. Sadly, in November, she announced 732 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: that she had had a miscarriage, and what I really 733 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: loved was she spoke so openly and courageously about the experience, 734 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: saying she had never felt devastation and sadness like this. Before, 735 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: and she said she felt really vulnerable sharing the post, 736 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: but really wanted to shine light on something that is 737 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: so common but is not commonly spoken about, because Sadly's 738 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: stats showed that one in full pregnancies end in miscarriage. 739 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 2: And I really like the fact that she was trying 740 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: to make other women in the same situation not feel 741 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: so alone. I mean, I suppose for us growing up, 742 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: we always knew that our mum had had a number 743 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: of miscarriages before us, So I feel like whilst we 744 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: discussed that in our family, it wasn't something that was 745 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: openly discussed all the time in the public. Well. I mean, 746 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: I know that it was bandied around that mum had 747 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: had miscarriages, but I personally feel it's only once I've 748 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: heard people like Georgie and also Laura Brn talk on 749 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: her podcast about her experience with miscarriage that I really 750 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 2: truly understand what our poor mum must have gone through, 751 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: because it's really something hard to understand if you haven't 752 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: been through it before. So I think it is so 753 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: powerful of Georgie to be sharing her personal. 754 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: Stories with everyone. 755 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: And Georgie has now spoken about how that miscarriage has 756 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: really impacted her going into her next pregnancy, so last week, 757 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: when she announced that she was pregnant, she also uploaded 758 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: a really raw YouTube video documenting her first trimester, So 759 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: for those who want to check it out, it's called 760 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: twelve Weeks of Our Rainbow Baby and it is currently 761 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: trending on YouTube at the moment. I watched this YouTube 762 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: video last night by myself with some fruit Chucks and 763 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: a cup of tea on the couch, and I really 764 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I felt like I needed a box of 765 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: tissues too, because there was so many moments where you're 766 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: either crying with happiness or crying with sadness because she 767 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 2: was so. 768 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Raw in this video. 769 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, she spoke about having panic attacks and also been 770 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: driven a lot by fear during this pregnancy, and she 771 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 2: was really open in what she shared. So she told 772 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: the camera that she'd been having some bleeding, which she 773 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: then had to have a follow up scan to make 774 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: sure the baby was okay, and all she wanted to 775 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: hear was the baby's heartbeat, and this was another moment 776 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: where I felt like crying, where they heard the baby's 777 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: heartbeat for the first time. I've got to say I 778 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: love her partner Tim. He just seems so normal and 779 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: not your typical instant of boyfriend, and he was just 780 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: so lovely to her, And yeah, I just it was 781 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 2: very nice to see that genuine moment between the pair. 782 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: I also love the fact that they had a pregnancy 783 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: photo shoot because I feel like this is something Kay 784 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: you need to do for your engagement because I don't know, 785 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 2: I feel like it's really nice to capture those moments 786 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: on videos. So she was in this beautiful white flowing 787 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: dress walking along the beach with sunset, the sunset, I 788 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: kind of be really interested to see this sort of 789 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: stuff of our parents. Well, mum has got a great 790 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 2: photo of herself in undies pregnant with us that she 791 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 2: won't let anyone see. 792 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 793 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 2: I don't I think a maternity photo shoot is good. 794 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: I don't. 795 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: I cringe at those engagement photo shoots. 796 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: That's what your wedding's for. 797 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I think some people it's sometimes nice 798 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: to have them. I don't know. I think it's a 799 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: bit cringe, not fans to anyone. Well, I think that's 800 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: all we've got time for today. 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