1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: This is a will and Woody podcast, Mini. But when 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: you're in a rash, My partner Sam gave birth to 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: a little baby girl called Max. Yeah, daddy, it's absolutely huge. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: You want to see a photo of the little angel. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Got a head al onto Willen Woods. She's on there. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: It was epic, mate, It was so good. It has 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: been the number one thing that every parent has told 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: me is just for be petal pet sleep. 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: Sure. 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we had I think it was three nights 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: in hospital all that we had. Yeah, and losing sleep 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: just yeah, it just doesn't it doesn't cut it. 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: You have aged like fifteen years in three days. You 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 4: sort of look like a leathery boot a bit. 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Of Roger sheet about me. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, Yeah, it was. It was taxing. But 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: largely the reason for that is and like people had already, 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Our parents would know this, but your child only once 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: and the only thing it thinks about is your partner's breasts. Yeah, 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: that is it. 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you've got common ground, which is great with 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: your child already. 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: So all night Sam can't get out of bed, So 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: all I'm doing is getting up getting the child out 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: of the bassinet. And then carrying it over to Sam. 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: She feeds run out for you know, fifteen to twenty minutes, 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: as long as she can. I sleep while she feeds, 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: and then she yells my name out and then I go. 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Then I go and get the child. I take it 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: back to the basinet, changes everyone needs to and then 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: try and sleep before it starts crying, before it wants 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: more food. Has been right, Yeah, same thing all night, 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: every night for three nights. 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: Is she jewel duel feeding. 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Your feed on your feed on both breasts? Yeah right, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: just even just to give your nipples a break because 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: to latch properly, and yeah that's a whole nother story. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: But so it's really interesting from my side of this, 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I've never felt more irrelevant. But I was talking to 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: Sam a little bit about it. It's really funny how 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: every woman who gives birth and breastfeeds, or whether she 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: pumps or whatever she does, your relationship with your breasts 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: is like now totally different because now they're performing the 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: function that they're actually on. 48 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: Four. 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course they've always been lying dormant like a 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: volcano for the first. 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: About lying dormant. 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: Well, no, I know you get in there, but I'm 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: saying like that they haven't had it in there. But well, 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: I don't know what you meant by that comment, but 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: I'm saying, for twenty eight yearsh know you meant. 56 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: My yor coment about my partner's breasts. 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: I mean that they're dormant, like volcanoes in that they 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: don't really have a practical use until exactly she gives 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: birth and all of a sudden krakatoa, you know what 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: I mean, there's an a rustique which it's extraordinary that 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: it is. 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: It really is, And like as I said, from my 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: side of the spectrum, it's fascinating. But for her and 64 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: for all women, you go through this transition where your 65 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: breasts are and I'm just trying to wrap my head 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: around this. I really want some women to call and 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: talk about this more because I just think it's fascinating. 68 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Your breasts go from this object of sexuality, of desirability 69 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: into the only thing that is sustaining your child, like 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: that magical things, that weirdest thing that's just the weirdest 71 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: thing about and like Sam's breast milk is just overflowing, 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: so she's got like she's got and like it's just 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: everything's changed and it's the only thing keeping Max alive. 74 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: Her breast. 75 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: These things that I used to look at and feel 76 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: a bit naughty if I got caught looking at it 77 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: is it is so funny. So I really want to 78 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: I really want to hear from some other women right now. 79 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: How did did this happen to you? This this idea 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: of transitioning from breasts being sexual to breasts being well, 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: it did if you gave birth to a child, and 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: more importantly, did you how do you transition back? Is 83 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: there a point where, like you and like that's what 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: I said before, is there a point where my child 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: and I are going to be scrapping for the same nipple, 86 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: for the same breasts, Like, is there going to be 87 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: some crossover there where the breasts are kind of like 88 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: one foot in the sexualized camp and one foot in 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: the life sustaining camp. They probably will. They probably will. 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: The ironic thing is they've never been bigger. They're absolute 91 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: gold coast cans right now because because of the amount 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: of milk that's in them. 93 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: I will not my wife's breasts. 94 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: But obviously it's just hilarious that it's so funny to 95 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: think that my child desires them all than anything else 96 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: in the world. And I'm really not saying this from 97 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: a crass lads in perspective. I'm saying it from like 98 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: a I really want to hear from some women out 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: there who had to go through this, And I just 100 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: want to hear your perspective on the girls, because I 101 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: can't imagine it. Yeah, I think it's I think it's brilliant. 102 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: Gives one and six five? Are you a woman? Have 103 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: your breastfed? Just talk about that transition. I'd love to 104 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: hear your voice right next woods I did become a 105 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: dad yesterday or is it two days ago? You're in 106 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: the totally, totally last in the vortex, given that all 107 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: my nights are fed, are sped spent Jesus ferrying my 108 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: child from the bassinette to my partner's breasts, as once 109 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: previously an object of sexual desire, have become literally the 110 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: only thing sustaining my child. And I really want to 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: talk about this because I like, obviously I'm a guy 112 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: looking at this from the outside, and Sam's currently passed 113 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: out with little Max in the bed, so I can't. 114 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: Talk to her enough. 115 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: About it, because she's just that she she's you think 116 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the vortex that she falls asleep bastfeeding at 117 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: the moment. It's just that's all she does. And I 118 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: really want to talk with some other women listening to 119 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: the show right now about that transition about your body 120 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: going from you know, this object of sexual desire into 121 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: it being the only way to keep your child alive, 122 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: and how that must feel for you as a woman, 123 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: and how you deal with that, and and do you 124 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: go back? Is there going to be where? Where is 125 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: there going to be a point where both my child 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: and I are competing for the same rest. 127 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: We've got Yanna here, Wilba Yana, what do you think 128 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: about this situation? Can you give us some perspective? 129 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: They are guys. They never revert back. You go from 130 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: being like, oh my god, it's really big and perky 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: when the mill comes in and you get really excited, 132 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: and then the first time you're intimate, yeah, you like, 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: just don't don't touch them, just don't touch them in 134 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: case anything comes out. 135 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Like you. 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: Gonna end up with the mouse. 137 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: So you're worried. There's a bit of gem left in 138 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: the jar. 139 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: There there is oh my Jem it's like the never. 140 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: Ending Tim Jams packet, you know, with the Jim Jams 141 00:06:54,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: genie a medicine. Here, Madison, you are currently breastfeeding a 142 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: bit like Will's partner Sem, And yeah, Will's posing the question, 143 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: you know, your breasts go from this sexual trait or 144 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: sexual feature to you know, being the life support for 145 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: a baby. Does it ever go back? Madison? Well, I 146 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: probably don't know about going back. 147 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm only yeah, I'm still breastfeeding. She's eight months and she. 148 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: Will not take a bottle. 149 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: So okay, it's in that moment of going through that. 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: But I think just the way you guys described it 151 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: was just beautiful, the fact that, yeah, you go through 152 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: your whole life being sexualized for it, and then all 153 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: of a sudden you don't mind just pulling it out 154 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: because you just know that it's feeding your child and 155 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: you don't care who sees it where it is, and 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: that's all that had it. 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that amazing? Thanks so much for the call, Mate. 158 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I found as well, Like it's just 159 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: you just don't think of it like the currently I'm 160 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: not looking. I mean I referred to them before as 161 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: gold coast cans, and that's how that's how previously pre bestfeeding. 162 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: I might have thought about birbs the size of SEM's, 163 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: but right now you don't even think about it. It's 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: just like, that is the way my child's surviving. They're 165 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: the most the planet. It's totally strange from my perspective, 166 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: which is why we're taking calls on it from other 167 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: women as to just how you went through that transition. 168 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I want to throw quickly to button push of Joel, 169 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: not because he's breastfed before, but Joel you were saying, no. 170 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: You haven't, mate, I was a baby. 171 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: I did you've been? 172 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: Oh I no, great point, he's got you there. Yeah, 173 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: Joel's been on a bird. The other side, it was 174 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: breastfed until he was fourteen. Apparently that's what your mum 175 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: told me. 176 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: You had a question, Will, Yeah, I did, thank you 177 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: before we were rudely interrupted by this absolute child in 178 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: the studio. Joel, you were saying, Dak Kristen Bell and 179 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Dak Shepherd obviously a bit of a power couple ever 180 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Kristin Bell had an interesting take on it. 181 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an interesting blurred line between motherhood and 182 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: being a woman and wanting to feel sexy. She opened 183 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: up in an interview once and said she was filming a 184 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: movie with her husband who was directing it. It's the 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: film Chips with Dak Shepherd and she was the star 186 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: in it with him, and she said, you have to 187 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: write in a pool scene with because my boobs have 188 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: never looked better and I want to come out of 189 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: the water in slow motion with my new pregnancy boobs. 190 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: And it's in the movie. You watch it, and she's 191 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: got this great scene with Kristen Bell. But she opened 192 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: up and said that was me just being a new 193 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: mum going hilarius. It has to be done, and he 194 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: did it for his wife. 195 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: Hilarious, brilliant story. I've got Taylor here and our Taylor 196 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: you can relate to this. 197 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I had my daughter, she's almost two now, 198 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 3: but after having her for a couple of weeks, I 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: got clogged milk ducks. So I was breastfeeding her on 200 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 3: one side and then my partner was on. 201 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: The other one getting the milk out. So oh oh, 202 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: how did he. 203 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: Go about that? 204 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: Was he sort of pumping with the hands or no? 205 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: So I had tried the pump and it wasn't working. 206 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: When I tried everything going in. 207 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: The shower warm water, nothing was working and it started 208 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: getting really sore. 209 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: So he had just had to go there and stuck 210 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: on him. 211 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: More of the boys on the Full Show podcast, As 212 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: You Know you want to