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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the.

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Speaker 2: Time poor parent who just once answers Now.

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Speaker 3: Over the break, a bunch of parenting studies and stories

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Speaker 3: have hit the news.

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Speaker 4: Some of them have been very very serious.

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Speaker 3: They include hard hitting stories like teenage boys who are

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Speaker 3: being trapped in online honey pots. There's been some pretty

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Speaker 3: explosive research come out about kids in daycare, not politically correct,

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Speaker 3: the sort of stuff that can upset people, but we

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Speaker 3: need to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: And also the Australian Child Male Treatment.

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Speaker 3: Study, a big news story looking at child abuse. All

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Speaker 3: of those stories are coming up on the Happy Families

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Speaker 3: Podcast in the next couple of.

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Speaker 4: Weeks as we address the very very serious stuff.

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Speaker 2: But today today's not serious at all. We're going to

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Speaker 2: look at pop culture and the stories that have made

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Speaker 2: the headlines and our reactions to them on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Once a month or thereabouts, do an episode called this

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Speaker 3: week in Parenting.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's we do this a quick I guess heads up.

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Speaker 3: Normally, this is a very practical podcast where we try

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Speaker 3: to help you to be better parents. I think you'll

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Speaker 3: still get better parenting ideas out of this podcast, but

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Speaker 3: every now and again it's just nice to look at

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Speaker 3: I don't know, the tabloidy trashy stuff and see what's

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Speaker 3: happening out there in I was gonna say, in the

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just going to put it out there. I

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Speaker 2: would not be having a conversation about any of these

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're not a TikToker either. Not Okay, So

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Speaker 3: here's our first story. The Barbie dream House has exploded

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Speaker 3: on TikTok. We have play Maisie at Play Maisy on

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Speaker 3: TikTok who decided that when it was Christmas and the

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Speaker 3: Barbie Dreamhouse was being gifted to a.

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Speaker 2: Little drum roll, This one's funny.

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Speaker 4: Let's glue down all the furniture. Kids, You're not going

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Speaker 5: If you are gifting a kid the Barbie Dreamhouse for

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Speaker 5: Christmas this year, do not wait until Christmas Eve to

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Speaker 5: build this thing. It's currently Friday. We have three days

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Speaker 5: to go. Tonight, I'm building this Tomorrow night. I will

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Speaker 5: the furniture with B six thousand glue down so the

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Speaker 5: under the tree not wrap. Good luck well on as parents.

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Speaker 4: All right, Kylie?

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Speaker 3: I mean this has gone nuts, thousands and thousands of comments,

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Speaker 4: This is called a parenting news right? Is it appropriate

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Speaker 4: or is it not appropriate? A couple of you're laughing

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Speaker 4: this much? Is it okay to blue your kid's Bobby

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Speaker 4: dreamhouse furniture to the dreamhouse so that it can't move around?

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Speaker 2: I have to give her a round of applause. Why

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Speaker 2: for ingenuity and just thinking outside the box as far

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: There is nothing worse than your child having a meltdown

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Speaker 2: because they've lost the tiny little plate that goes on

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Speaker 2: their Barbie dreamhouse table and I can't find it, and

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Speaker 3: Down a crack of Can I be the serious parenting

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Speaker 3: making your life more convenient, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like you don't buy the barbie dreamhouse so the kids

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Speaker 3: and I guess in a more serious tone, the notion

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Speaker 2: Kid's not even actually gonna want to play with it.

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Speaker 3: So the great irony is in the clip she's saying,

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Speaker 3: But by doing what she's doing, she's not going to

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Speaker 2: In education terms, we dissess whether or not an activity

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Speaker 4: Here's the second news story, Chris Emsworth. Guess what do

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Speaker 4: you know? What the kids call Chris?

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Speaker 1: And Chris Hemsworth might be one of the world's most

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Speaker 1: famous movie stars, but his fans were surprised by some

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Speaker 1: of his recent holiday posts. Chris's nine year old son,

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Speaker 1: Tristan can be heard calling his dad by his first

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Speaker 5: Chris, What keep him funding it? Chris?

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Speaker 4: They call him Chris, they don't call him dad.

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Speaker 3: News dot com, dot a you reported that Chris Hemsworth

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Speaker 3: news dot com, dot a you. They know that if

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Speaker 2: About to say this has got very little thing to do

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Speaker 3: If there is a Hemsworth story, Hemsworth in the title,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Ricardo, they just Daniel Riccardo Chris Hemsworth stories. They

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Speaker 3: know they're going to get clicks, But this is in

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Speaker 3: the news. Chris Hemsworth has been spotted in public and

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Speaker 3: not saying hey Dad, They're saying hey Chris. So Kylie reactions.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually torn on this one. I can't imagine my

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Speaker 2: that comes down to what societal norms and expectations have

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Speaker 2: been depicted as nice, respectful, or kind. So that's my preface.

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Speaker 2: But when I think about my name, it suggests something

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Speaker 2: in that regard, it actually makes sense that they might

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Speaker 2: That doesn't feel personal or intimate to me. That's just like,

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Speaker 3: And by the way, if you do say up son

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Speaker 2: I'm divided. I'm divided. I don't actually have a problem

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: So I would like to say that there is no

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Speaker 4: Point of view, I mean, you do you whatever works

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Speaker 3: I've known plenty of people who call their parents by

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Speaker 3: likewise plenty of people who say Mum and Dad. For me,

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Speaker 3: So to me, the word dad is really special, it's

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Speaker 4: So I think it's such a privilege.

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Speaker 3: Every now and again, when the kids say hey, Dad,

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Speaker 4: No one else does that.

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Speaker 3: Quick story though, as an aside, you know this story

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Speaker 3: knows never to call me Natasha again. In fact, we

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Speaker 3: Because your mom did not want to be called by

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Speaker 3: but she's not my mum. And again, for me, the

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Speaker 3: They get to call me dad, and I wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: So our next story is probably one that's not safe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're driving in the car or listening with

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Speaker 3: a little bit later. This is definitely a parent's only

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Speaker 3: story that is definitely needing to be raised because it's

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Speaker 2: Saltburn. It's a news show on Amazon Prime, and it

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Speaker 2: is not for our kids.

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Speaker 3: They're strong, central content, graphic nudity, language, disturbing, violent content,

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't seem to be for our kids now.

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Speaker 4: In fairness, you and I have not watched it.

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Speaker 3: And I know that when you read something or you

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Speaker 4: Sometimes reading it makes it worse, whereas if you just

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Speaker 4: watch it, it's there, it's gone. You don't pick up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think to read it requires so much

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Speaker 3: Passive it's a different level of process accessing. But Sultburn

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Speaker 3: is definitely a not safe for kids show. It's an

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Speaker 3: Here's what Madison, who works with Kirera Pendegast Safe on

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Speaker 3: seventeen year old. Madison said. The new movie Saltburn on

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Speaker 3: Amazon Prime is going absolutely viral. The highly sexualized movie

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Speaker 4: And that's the news that you've missed over the holidays.

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Speaker 4: I think you're up to day. What do you reckon?

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Speaker 4: But come on, this has been great.

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Speaker 3: The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin Rowland for

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Speaker 3: you enjoy your Australia day long weekend.

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Speaker 4: To see you Monday,