1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. Welcome to the Daily OS. It is Wednesday, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: the sixth of April. Will the election be called today? 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: That is the question I texted Zara this morning. It's 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: the question I'll probably text Sara tomorrow morning. Zara. Today 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: on the Deep Dive, we're going to be talking about 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Scott Morrison and the allegations of racism leveled at our 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Prime minister in the last week or so. But first 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: kick us off with the latest findings from the IPCC. 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: This new report by the IPCC didn't say anything different 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: to the previous ones. It just said that the world 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: needs to harve emissions by twenty thirty to limit global 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: warming to one point five degrees celsius. The main finding 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: was that emissions must peak before twenty twenty five, and 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: that's really really soon, and then it must fall by 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: forty three percent by twenty thirty and reach net zero 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: by twenty fifty. 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: To some economics news now and the Reserve Bank of 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Australia announced Australia's cash rate will remain at zero point 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: one percent and that's where it's been sitting since November 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. In the statement issued yes today by the 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Governor Philip Lowe. The RBA said ongoing supply side problems, 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: Russia's invasion of Ukraine and strong demand as economies recover 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: from the pandemic are all contributing to the upward pressure 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: on prices. 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: The Victorian government has introduced legislation that will allow adoptees 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: to put both of their birth parents and their adoptive 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: parents on their birth certificates. Current laws only allow the 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: listing of adoptive parents. The Victorian Attorney General said the 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: change to birth certificates was intended to try repair the 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: damaged caused. 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: And today's good news. We've brought you this update from Sweden, 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: from Norway, it's now the UK's turn. More than sixty 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: companies in the United Kingdom will participate in a four 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: day working week trial in what will be the biggest 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: pilot scheme of its kind. Joe O'Connor, the chief executive 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: of Four Day Week Global, said workers have emerged from 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: the pandemic with different expectations around what constitutes a healthy 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: life work balance. At pretty much every press conference in 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: the last seven days, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: asked questions about whether he is racist or not to 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: explain this story from the very beginning. We need to 42 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: talk about the electorate of Cook. We need to talk 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: about pre selections, stat decks and Prime Minister Morrison's character Zarra. 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Take us all the way back to two thousand and five. 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: I was in year five, you're in year three. What 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: happened then? 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So if we're going all the way back to 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: two thousand and five, there was a big event that 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: took place. It was the Cronulla Riots and they occurred 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: in the place that was to become Scott Morrison's electorate 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: of Cook. 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: It started out as a show of numbers by locals 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: wanting to protect Cronulla, but by midafternoon it had turned 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: into scenes not seen before in Sydney, angry mobs fueled 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: by alcohol turning on individuals because of their ethnic background. 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: Now, that was a news report from the eleventh of 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: December on what became known as the Cronulla Rite. Over 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: five thousand, mostly Anglo Australians assembled at Cronulla Beach to 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: quote reclaim the beach from outsiders. Violence erupted as the 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: crowd attacked people of Middle East in appearance, sparking two 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: further days of riding. Now, if we're to go two 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: years forward to the lead up of the two thousand 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: and seven federal election, so bear with me. Scott Morrison 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: was running for this aforementioned seat of Cook but he 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: had one main opponent for the Liberal Party pre selection nomination. Now, 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: keep in mind that the major parties only ever nominate 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: one person per seat to run. This is called pre selection. 68 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: It's basically the process by which a political party chooses 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: an individual to become the candidate that's then endorsed by 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: the party for a particular election. So in this pre 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: selection race, Morrison's main opponent for the seat was Michael 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: tok and he is a Lebanese Catholic man. Toke and 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: another Liberal have signed statutory declarations alleging Morrison used Toke's 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: ethnic background to convince Liberal members not to support him. 75 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: The stat decks were reported in the Saturday paper and 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: the nine newspapers over the weekend, and that's why we're 77 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: talking about it now. That's why this story is in 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: the news. In his declaration, Toak accused Morrison of telling 79 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: party members to vote against him and I quote solely 80 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: on the rationale that my family heritage was Lebanese. He 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: was adamant and explicit that a candidate of Lebanese heritage 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: could not hold the seat of Cook. Now remember this 83 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: is occurring just years after the Cronulla Riots and that's 84 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: still fresh in everyone's minds. Toke actually won an initial 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: battle between the pairs, so between him and Scott Morrison, 86 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: eighty two to eighty. But this victory was overturned and 87 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 2: that was allegedly caused by Morrison. Liberal Party member Scott 88 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: Chapman said in another stat Deck that Morrison told him 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: there would be a swing against the Liberal Party in 90 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: Cook and I quote again because of mister Toke's the 91 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: leb Banese background, and that there was a strong rumor 92 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: that Michael tok is actually a Muslim. Morrison, of course 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: went on to win the preselection. He then won the 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: election and eventually became Treasurer and now as we know him, 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: he became Prime Minister. Toke subsequently dropped out of politics. 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: I just want to pick up on a term that 97 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: you've mentioned, their statutory declaration or stat deck you're referring 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: to it as can we focus in on that for 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: a minute. What exactly is a stat deck? 100 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: The definition of a stat deck is really important here 101 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: because it has formed the basis of much of the reporting, 102 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: especially the Saturday Paper and the Sydney Morning Herald. So 103 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: this story has been ongoing for obviously a number of years, 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: but both reporters from both outlets managed to get these 105 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: pieces across the line because they had signed stat decks. 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: So a stat deck is a legal document. It contains 107 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: a written statement about something that is true. So it's 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: a document that can be used in court and it's 109 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: classified as reliable evidence. It must be witnessed by a 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: witness like a justice of the peace. And most of 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: us have come across stat decks when we're getting a 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: new passport or some other form of legal document. Morrison 113 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: himself made some comments over the weekend about statutory declarations. 114 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: People make all sort of statements and they'll sign them. 115 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't make them true, And then he actually offered 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: to sign one himself if it would help people believe 117 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: his side of the story that he did not tell 118 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: party members to vote against TOK because he was from 119 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: a Lebanese background. 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: Yes, of course I would. 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: So we'll see that no one's asking for one, and 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: I'm not going to court over these matters. I'm not 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: bringing any actions. 124 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: I stand by exactly what I've said here in the 125 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: public domain. 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: So overall is Morrison denying these allegations. 127 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: Strongly, really really strongly. At that same press conference, the 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: Prime Minister hip back at quote malicious and bitter race 129 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: claims by his former rival. Liberal frontbenchers jumped to the 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 2: prime Minister's defense. Here's what Josh Fridenberg, Rustin and Barnaby 131 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 2: Joyce had to say. 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: Jamal Riffi, who is one of Australia's leaders of the 133 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: Australian Muslim Lebanese community, has said about Scott Morrison that 134 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: he doesn't have a racist bone in his body. I 135 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: don't think there's been any Prime minister who has done 136 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: more for the multicultural communities of Australia. 137 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: You're going to use call someone basically a racist and 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 5: they're not. You're actually using racism as your weapon, and 139 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 5: you know that's that's I don't think we need an 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 5: election that's around that. 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: The country's Assistant Treasurer, Michael Suka, who is of Lebanese descent, 142 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: tweeted on Sunday that no member of Parliament had shown 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: more support, care and respect for the Australian Lebanese community 144 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: than the Prime Minister Scott Morrison. 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: So I know you said before that this story was 146 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: published by the media outlets that ran it over the 147 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: weekend because of the strength of the stat decks. But 148 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm still not fully clear about why we're talking about 149 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: this now on what could be the eve of the election. 150 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: What happened in Canberra in the last week to bring 151 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: all of this to the surface fifteen years on. 152 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: It's in part because of Liberal Senator can Shedder, fear 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: of Antie Wells. This is the senator who stood up 154 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: in Parliament last week. You would have seen this blistering 155 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: speech where she slammed Scott Morrison. She described him as 156 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: an autocrat and a bully who has no moral compass 157 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: and not fit to be the prime minister. Before we 158 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: go on, it must be acknowledged that this senator has 159 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: lost her pre selection bid and will not be contesting 160 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: the next election, so she will no longer remain in Parliament. 161 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: But in this final speech she referred to these stat 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: decks that we had mentioned earlier and said that Morrison's 163 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: campaign against tok all those years ago had destroyed a 164 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: good young man. Morrison has suggested that the senator's comments 165 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: about him were made because she was quote disappointed by 166 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: the outcome of her pre selection battle. 167 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: So Morrison strongly denies these allegations. It sounds fear of 168 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Antie Wells strongly affirms them. Where are we at right now? 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: We are just days away from an election being called. 170 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: This is indisputably an unwelcome distraction for the Morrison government. 171 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: The PM is being asked about these allegations at almost 172 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: every press conference and he continues to emphatically deny the 173 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: claims that he is a racist. 174 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I absolutely reject that as malicious slurs. 175 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: It is outrageous, absolutely outrageous. I've dealt with it time 176 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 2: and again. It of course has also opened up discussions 177 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: across the country about race relations in this country and 178 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: the way that ethnic minorities are treated in this country. 179 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: The Ten network tracked down Michael Toke as he was 180 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: boarding a flight to Sydney and asked him whether he 181 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: stood by his comments. 182 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, And what do you make of the Prime 183 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: Minister's deny? It not very credible. 184 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: Do you think he's lying? 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty obviously. 186 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Do you think the Prime Minister's racist? 187 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: Well? 188 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: It's hard not to, isn't it. 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: And finally, if we zoom out a bit here, it 190 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: certainly seems like Morrison's character is becoming a major part 191 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: of our election discourse. Just yesterday, a departing Liberal member 192 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: of the New South Wales Parliament leveled her criticisms against 193 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, a man in her own party, and 194 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: expressed sheer disappointment at the way that things have been handled, 195 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: particularly around the floods. This, taken together with other departing 196 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: Liberal members statements and earlier statements by Barnaby Joyce that 197 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: were published, are certainly painting a picture that the Prime 198 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: Minister would rather not see. It's very clear, even from 199 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: before the election being called, that Labor is going to 200 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: use this as its key weapon against the Prime Minister 201 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: and against his government, and it'll be interesting to see 202 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: whether this resonates with everyday voters. 203 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: An interesting election battle it is shaping up to be. 204 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: To keep track of all election issues and topics, I 205 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: highly recommend listening to the No Silly Question podcast is 206 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: where we go a little bit deeper into the big 207 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: election issues, or follow us on Instagram at the Daily Oz. 208 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: We will speak to you tomorrow