WEBVTT - BEHIND THE BRICKS ON LEGO MASTERS! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.960 TV Reload the podcast last week that night. Welcome back 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.039 to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.280 podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.640 in television. Each episode you will get a front row 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.560 seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, editors and 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.400 casting agents, plus the talent that we see on our screens. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.400 TV Reload reloads the shows that you were currently watching 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.800 and gives you a better insight at our television industry 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.440 and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have two 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.879 interviews which both involve Lego Masters Australia. I have a 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.000 chat with Brickman himself, who is the judge and co 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.920 host of the show with Hamish Blake. I then chat 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.159 with one of the teams from the twenty twenty two 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.440 series which starts Monday night at seven thirty on Channel nine, 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.200 and that team is Josh and Henry. Joss and Henry 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.680 stood out pretty quickly as I previewed the first few episodes. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.360 Straight away you could tell that they had some pretty 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.720 cool lego bills, which we're going to be that of 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.920 popular contention as the series goes on and we will 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.840 get some pretty cool behind the scenes goss from their 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.160 time on the show. Brickman himself, whose real name is 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.400 Ryan McNaught, also shares his wealth of knowledge on Lego 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.840 and his time on the full series, which have been 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.400 a huge success for Endemolshin in Australia and Channel nine. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.480 I have to admit the more that I watch the series, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.880 the more that I realized that this show might be 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.560 a front runner for the ratings battle which is about 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.679 to play out on Australian Freedoware televisions. However, let's get started. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.120 I'd like to welcome our special guests to spotlight the 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.160 brand new series of Lego Masters for twenty twenty two. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.040 Everything this season was the best that it's been on 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:43.840 Lego Masters. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.960 Last year we took things to the next level. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.639 I'll tell you the pros and the cons of making 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.080 something Lego maths. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.880 This year, Lego Masters is tougher than eva. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.480 You might be on the show. We can't guarantee just yet. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.240 Well, that's why it is less. Legos fairly ubiquitous in 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.160 that most people have had a relationship with it. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:11.959 You fuck up, Australia, this is Lego Masters. You've just 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.600 completely wiped hours of good footage because you've just been 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.200 littering it with curse word. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.320 Hi brickman, how are you. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.200 I'm just awesome. Thank you for having me. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.920 Well, congratulations on Lego Masters. It's such a celebrated show 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.480 which you and Hamish just nail every year. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.440 Well, we have a lot of fun making it, so 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.679 we figure if we have so much fun making it, 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.040 then obviously hopefully people will enjoy it. If anything, even 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:37.800 without an audience, we just want to do it for us, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:39.760 for no one else but our films. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.280 Because it almost feels like you are two you know, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.000 naughty schoolboys and you're just having a great time and 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.160 we just get to watch. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.600 It pretty much. And to be honest, the naughty school 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.400 boy's definitely Hamish. He's the naughty one. I'm the one 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.000 that puts his homework in on time and gets thing 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:54.560 done just. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.160 So you know, just to clear the air. 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.399 It's an awful amount of time to be in one 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.040 room with Hamish. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.680 Well, he does spend a lot of time in the brickpit, 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.680 and that's usually him stealing lego like as a rule, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.040 is a bit light fingered like that even at one point, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:12.880 not this season, but I think it was last season. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.040 We actually had to hold him upside down and shake 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.840 him to get the Lego out of him. He was 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.280 stealing that much. That's Hamish for you. He's a lot 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:19.600 of fun. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.480 I'm sure that Hamish can afford Lego. 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.880 You would assume. But the thing about the Brickpit is, 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.919 and as our contestants over, it's just full of the 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.120 coolest stuff. So I guess it has a certain appeal. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.120 All and we still have Brickman. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.760 Australia's only the Southern hemisphere is only Legos certified professionals. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.560 Were soucky to have him back as your mentor, your judge, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.200 your guide through the season. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.400 Welcome back Wickman, Thank you ha good to be here. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.200 This has been a big success for Channel nine. Why 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.960 do you think that this show has been so successful. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.320 I think it's a couple of things. First off, Lego's 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:06.120 fairly ubiquitous in that most people have had a relationship 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.960 with it, whether they had as a kid, or they're 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.640 a cool uncle or you know, whatever the case happens. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.120 We even stood on a brick you know. There's everyone 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.800 has a relationship with Lego. So therefore it makes it 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.839 really relatable and so when you see the contestants doing 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.880 what they're doing and how they're working and using a 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.240 medium that we're familiar with, it makes it really really relatable. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.680 So it's kind of a thing that everyone kind of 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.800 gets behind and runs with. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.680 That moment that you just talked about, which is standing 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.800 on a piece of lego, which we've all done, just 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.080 brought back a memory of my mum standing on lego 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.160 that I left on the floor, and it made me 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.560 realize that if I was ever on lego masters, I 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.200 don't think I could do it with my mum. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.960 Yeah, it's a thing. It's almost like a rite of passage. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.040 You kind of have to earn the right. It's like 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.680 the hot coals, you know, that whole trust exercise of 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.800 running over the coals. Same with lego bricks. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.880 Well, these people on the show could probably make that 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.000 for us, right, They could make us like a mock 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.679 fire trail. Had you thought that maybe a lego stature 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.720 of the cast have married at first Sight might be 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.360 a really good segue for you coming off the back 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.320 of that show for Channel nine. I mean, I'm sure 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.400 you've been alced to make some pretty outrageous things before. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.120 I have I'll tell you the pros and the cons 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.080 of making something Lego maps. First off, you wouldn't need 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.880 a lot of bricks because they don't wear a lot, 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.040 so you probably don't need to think about covering them 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.280 up too much. So that's that's that's definitely a pro. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.920 But on the negative side, Lego don't really make a 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.760 flesh tone colored Lego brick or everyone's yellow in Lego Land, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.320 of course, so I'm not sure we're going to get 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:39.720 We're going to get what we need there. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.320 You're going to need too many of those very lucrative, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.840 very rare skin colored pieces of Lego, which I know 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.280 that you've been hiding away because you just want to 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.760 use them for special things, maybe not something for mass 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:52.680 In fact, I. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.760 Reckon we could probably do a good Lego dinner party. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.760 I think that would be okay too. I think we could. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.920 We could definitely nail a dinner party, have all the 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.880 nice food and they kind of stuff laid out. But 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.200 as for the contestants, I'm not sure. I'm not sure 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:03.960 we can get them though. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.720 Sorry, Moving away from that, do you think that it's 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.200 important for kids to still watch television with their parents? 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.040 Look, it's funny, isn't it. I mean, much like yourself. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.080 You know, I grew up the same thing. Okay, you 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.960 know seven thirty on a Tuesday. We'd watch I don't know, 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.720 a country practice or whatever together or you know, we 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.160 had our things as a family that would that we 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.160 would do. I grew up in the country, so we 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.239 only had two channels like the ABC and one commercial channel, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.520 so it was even more so. And it was it 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.080 was a real bonding activity. It was a thing where 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.400 we'd kind of get together to do that particular whatever 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.279 it was that we would watch. And I think obviously 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.640 with the today generation and the ability to get whatever 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.839 content you want now or in whatever format that you want, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.480 we've kind of lost that a little bit. So I 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.480 think it's I think it's a good thing. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.320 I think it's a great thing. And I think it's 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.680 good that we're making content on television that can be 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.360 digested by families, you know, and that they can be 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.680 sitting around and having that bonding moment. I think we 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.760 need more of it. Talking about the competition, if you 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.400 were trying to win this competition, what kind of tactics 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.200 would you drive Because in other reality TV shows you 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.240 could fly under the radar and pretend that you're not 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.840 good at LEGO. To start with, I don't know what's 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:13.480 your tactics. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.120 Ye are two things. First off, before I give you 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.400 the answer, what I will say is hopefully Hamish and 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.480 I we've been angling for years to do an international 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.160 version where it's the host and judge versus the host 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.640 and judge of other countries. So we really want to 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.720 represent Australia. That's our thing. So we do want to 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.440 get on the show as contestants one day. So taking 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.160 that on board, I think two really important things. First 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.480 is it is about time management. You have to find 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.440 the perfect balance and this is where it gets tricky 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.640 between pushing yourself to the absolute limit of your time 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.040 limit of what you're capable of doing and not going 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.720 over it because if you go over it, you're not 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.920 going to deliver, but if you go underneath, it'll be 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.160 too underwhelming. So you really go to hit this absolute 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.000 sweet spot in terms of your time management of making 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.160 something that you as the time the absolute best. So 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.240 that's the first tip. The second tip is the advantages 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:09.480 in the immunity. They are worth their weight in absolute gold. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.040 So I don't think you can really rest your laurels 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.600 at all at any stage. You really want to win those. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.680 And you know what the first the first one obviously 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.320 where you're playing for a brick, you know that means 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:24.440 something that is absolutely critical, So that's what. Yeah, they're 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:25.520 probably the two things. I think. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.800 Is there any of a sabotage that we haven't seen 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.480 on television? Like, has any of the contestants, you know, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.000 tried to use any tactics to sabotage anyone else's lego? 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.839 Because we run a pretty positive show, we don't really 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.600 see anything like negative like that, so we don't see 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.760 people going around stealing bricks or those kind of things. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.120 So I don't think I've ever seen in Yeah, no, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.480 I'm not sure we have. I mean, occasionally, what will 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.160 happen is say you as a team, you've got a 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.760 certain idea. I don't know, let's say you want to 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.079 make a forest for example sake, and of course you 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:55.599 might go to the brick bit and take all the 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.760 easy tree pieces first, and so you know, that's not sabotage, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.760 but it's an advantage because you got your idea first, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.680 and you might get those parts first before everybody else. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.120 So there's probably some game type stuff happening, but we 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:10.640 don't see it intentionally. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.080 No, and you're probably not casting for that either. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.760 No, that's another show that you talked about. It's a 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:16.280 different one. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.760 Stop talking about maths. How old were you when you 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.719 realized that Lego was more than just a toy and 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.160 you know, could possibly be your life? 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:25.959 Good? 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.000 Good question. Well, I loved Lego as a kid. I 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.320 thought Lego was awesome up until I was about thirteen 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.080 or fourteen. Then it kind of became uncool as a teenager. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.360 It's about sport and your friends and girls and those 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.160 kind of things, and so life kind of took a 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.760 bit about normal attack there. But it wasn't until we 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.199 had kids in my early thirties that I kind of 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.719 got back into Lego and sort of rediscovered it there. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.079 So probably I'm going to say early to mid thirties 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.360 when I realized how awesome it was as a medium 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.920 and kind of realized that there's something in it from there. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.439 And then I've obviously been living under a pile of 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.240 pile of Lego. But can you tell me your story 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:00.600 behind the Nick Brickman. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.520 Essentially back in two thousand and seven or thereabouts, I 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.640 was starting to get a few commissions. People are asking 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.679 me to make things out of Lego. I thought of stuff, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.680 I really need to get a website. I really need 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.839 to find something or another. And I'm like, oh, what 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.880 do we call the website? And eventually in the big 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.800 brainstorm on the whiteboard was the Brickman, And so I thought, oh, well, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.680 I'll just I'll just get that as a website. That'll 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.679 be fine, and I won't call myself that. It was 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.520 more about just the website, and eventually it stuck so 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:27.679 very unglamorous. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.280 Yeah, you started signing checks for it, you started asking 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.200 your wife to call you Brickman instead of it took 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:33.800 over your life. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.240 Yeah, when you land at the passport office, hey Brickman. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.480 that's on my passport, you know. Yeah, it's a thing. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.240 How did this show come up for you? Because I 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.559 can imagine that you must have pitched this to Channel nine. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.480 I mean this must be like a dream job for you, 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.480 But like, can you tell me how it came across 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:48.920 your table? 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.120 Yeah? It was actually the other way around. So Lego 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.679 Master has actually started off in the UK quite a 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.480 different format, very much more family. They have kids on 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.000 the show as well. As adults, very much a different 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.760 sort of format show. And then some really i'm going 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.400 to call them TV heavyweights people and enemol shine a 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.120 chat by the name of David McDonald who's like Television 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.760 Royalty invented goggle Box and master Chef and all sorts 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.679 of things like that, and he saw the format and thought, wow, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.280 I could do stuff with this, and then basically they 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.559 got working on what the show would roughly be, and 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.080 then they got in contact with me and said, hey, look, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.560 we've got a very rough concept for a show. Are 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.959 you interested at all? And I'm like, oh, well, I've 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.080 seen the UK one. Yeah, sure, And then they kind 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.880 of explained how different it was going to be and 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.240 what it was going to look like and how it 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.280 was going to work and how much of a totally 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.760 different production, and I'm like, yeah, look, I'll give it 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.520 a go. It's one of those things. I know how 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.679 popular Lego is and I know how cool Lego is, 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.719 but whether that translated to a television audience that's a 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.400 very different question. And so yeah, we kind of just 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.240 merged the two together. And obviously once Haymen came on 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.240 board as well, it worked well. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.800 Both of you added tone to it as well, which 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.439 I think is kind of your own signature. You know, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.800 like you can't really be Haymission. We've seen that with 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.640 people trying to be him on radio, and you can't 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.839 be you with your knowledge on Lego and I don't 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.640 think we have anyone in Australia that's at that level. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.200 Have you asked d Mac whether or not you could 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.400 be on goggle Box as well, because he's obviously given 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.960 that job to Hamish'd. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.520 Say that for the real celebrities, mate, I'm like d Grade, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.920 So I'm very happy watching goggle Box if you don't mind. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.199 How stressful is it for the contestants each day? 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.319 I think there's multiple levels of stress and it happens 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.560 at different points of time. First off, the initial concept, 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.400 so we're all creative. Everybody's creative in their own way. 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.719 But what we do on the show is we tell 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.839 them you need to be creative right now, like right 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.240 this very second, and we're going to put ten cameras 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.400 in your face and lights and Hamish just going to 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.120 come around and pester you and I'm going to say, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.160 what the hell's going on and all this kind of stuff, right, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.880 So the poor contestants have to come up with something 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.520 very very quickly, and that's that's actually hard to be 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.160 creative on demand. So that's the first sort of level 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.320 of pressure that hits them. And then secondly, of course 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.079 you know that we talk to say it's a ten 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.400 hour bill, you know, there's actually a hard slog where 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:00.920 the've actually got to do a lot of work, and 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.000 at various points in milestones they'll be like, oh gosh, 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.079 I needed to have done this or I haven't done 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.240 that yet, and then they'll have to adapt their plans 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.200 and change and that kind of stuff. And then usually 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.000 some TV stuff will happen, you know, in between hamish'll 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.840 come out and do something crazy all that kind of stuff. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.600 So we kind of have this building pressure and it's 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.959 really I don't know why this is a thing, but 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.400 it always comes down to like the last ten minutes. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.720 It always does without fail, and that just of course 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.240 amplifies all of the pressure that's on top of everybody. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.880 I was imagining the people from Endermulshine just you know 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.160 they'd finished the lego through three hours early, and you 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:39.800 know that it'd be like the last piece of the 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.200 jigsaw puzzle, you know, with the family that you get 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.360 one person in particular to do it, but you quickly 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.080 rush them to the table, quickly, quickly, make it look 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.959 like it's been really intense. But interestingly enough, which you 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.360 can explain to us, is that, yeah, they are just 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.720 working all the way right to the very end. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.040 Totally, and you know, it's this classic thing and we 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.880 can see without contestants all the time when is a 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.760 model finished, a lot of contestants they would love another 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.280 ten hours to do all this other stuff with their model, 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.000 or add to it, or change it up or do whatever, right, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.200 but the time is the time, and once it goes, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.199 that is the ultimate end of it. So often what 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.280 teams will do, let's just say you're cruising, things are 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.600 going great halfway through and they'll look over the room 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.880 and they'll go, oh my god, look what they've done. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.760 This is like twice the size, or it's like the 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.080 coolest idea ever, and then they'll need to change it 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.560 up and go. So it's very very rare. We've had 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.840 some people that might go, oh, you know what, we've 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.000 got a couple of minutes to go. Let's do nothing 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.120 too stressful, do a bit of set dressing, just tidy 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.680 things up a little bit, but as a rule, people 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.040 are like full on, and even some of the technical 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.680 challenges their contraption or the gizmo might not even be 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.800 working until like there's a minute to go or something. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.760 So it's pretty full on, pretty full on. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.240 Do you know if there's a lot of people that 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:50.880 want to be on Lego Masters. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.680 Yeah, there is. I prefer not to get involved in 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.120 casting because I love to meet the contestants first time 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:57.920 when they come through the door and have that whole 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.240 chemistry as they arrive. I have. I have done some 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.680 of the casting bits and pieces, and literally, you know, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.640 thousands of people do apply, so it's not something that 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.800 we're ever going to run out of contestants or anything 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.440 along those lines, which is great. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.640 So I just imagine people trying to bribe you with 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:17.320 some lego, some of that rare flesh colored lego, you know, 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:22.400 just a hego brickman, here's a pound of lego, flesh 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.320 colored lego. Can you get me on the show? 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:24.760 Yeah? 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.040 No, Fortunately I don't. I don't make the casting decisions likely, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.520 So no bribery whatsoever. I'm all good. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.000 What's the best advice though, that you offer people? I 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:35.720 mean I'm sure that you get a chance to speak 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.200 to them, you know, on their first day. You know, 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.720 what sort of advice do you give these contestants in 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.200 starting out in the competition. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.800 I think if I was to look from a from 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.160 a competition perspective, if I look at all the winners 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.480 that we've had on the show, they've all got one 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.200 trait is they've learned each of the skills in each 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.200 of the challenges and then learned how to apply them. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:57.240 And so whoever grasps that the best will end up 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.280 making the coolest, grandest, most incredible thing because of all 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.840 the things that they're picking up and natural when you're 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.440 putting a lego at home, for example, like you don't 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.800 often think about the perspective of how a lego model 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.440 is viewed. You just make something awesome at time. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:09.200 That's just what you do. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.560 But of course for television, hey, we're looking for a 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.800 very particular angle. So as we're teaching people skills like 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.800 that one, and you know, we tach probably thirty or 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.920 forty different skills, but as we teach in that one, 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.360 people who understand and grasp that and can take that 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.360 going forward, they end up going places. So probably the 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.960 ability to learn. As strange as that sounds. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.880 On a show, this might be the nerdiest question that 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.600 I can ask you about Lego, But what is your 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.400 favorite piece of Lego constructed over the last for a 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:36.080 few seasons. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:37.840 Look, it's tonny. I do get asked that one a 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.320 bit because you know, everyone has their own favorites, and 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.880 so it's kind of like picking your favorite child, and 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:44.720 you know you can't do that, so it gets a 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.680 little bit tricky. But I have a few. I think 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.320 Henry and Kaid's tried and coming out of the water 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.040 with the boat, I think that was pretty incredible. That 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.280 kind of set a tone for what the show's about, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.400 So that definitely sticks in my mind. From the previous season, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.920 Scott and they made this arcade machine called the strum King. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.240 I don't know if you remember that one, but it 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.159 was mind blowing from a lot of reasons. It was 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.280 so much fun. It was them in Lego personified, and 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.000 it had some of the most craziest contraptions and gizmo's 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.040 in it. So in terms of my favorites, it's probably 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.560 those and the tiger as well in the tree that 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.280 was unreal as well. So we've been very lucky. 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.960 I just love that there's some people sitting around every 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.200 year coming up with the weekly challenges, like what about 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.879 if we get a jukebox and we get them to 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.520 get a record from a popular piece of pop history 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.600