WEBVTT - Donald Trump - The Pussies Grabbed Back 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.360 Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.120 lands were never seated. We pay our respects to their 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:07.560 elders past and present. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.360 Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:25.200 recorded on gaddigal Land. Hey guys know no, Hi guys, 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.639 and welcome back to another episode of Life on Cut. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.319 I'm Brittany, I'm Laura. Why are you saying no and' 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:31.600 yelling at me across the room? 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.479 No, we were just having a laugh about what we 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.720 were going to call our podcast five years ago. So okay, 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.120 when we very first started a Life on Cut, we 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.479 had brainstorming sessions. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:42.840 We all had ideas. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.440 My idea gets brought up as being poo pooed all 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.720 the time because it's the only one I remember. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.400 I wish I remembered what I put forward more, but 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.520 the only one. We had all these when we say brainstorming, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.000 we had a coffee. We had a piece of paper 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.240 and pencil. It was a pencil and anything was a pan. Heay, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.400 that's a brainstorm session. Why do we have a pencil? 0:00:59.520 --> 0:00:59.840 I don't know. 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.920 But we wrote it down on a notepad, lined on 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.640 a lined notepad, and one of my podcasts. Name ideas 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.039 was Coming Up Roses, which, at the time, coming off 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.480 the back of The Bachelor, I thought it was brilliant. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.440 And five and a half years on we can all 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.399 agree that it wasn't brilliant. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.840 But at the time it felt very good, felt good 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.040 in my bones. It didn't. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.200 It never felt good, never landed for it. But then 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:26.960 I suggested a lot of names that you didn't like 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.720 as well. I just don't remember them. The only one 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.280 that stuck with me is Coming Up Roses, because I 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.160 was like, I think we should steer away from just 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.080 being like the The Bachelor, and that's. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.319 All we are. Imagine now the Bachelor's not even around. Yeah, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.479 it would be canned. The Brittany Hockley Show didn't really 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.640 do it for me either. Oh that was like that 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:47.320 was did you just turn into my teenage brother? Yes 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:47.920 I did. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.800 Hello, welcome friend Laura here on the Brittany Hockey Show 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.000 on Coming Up Roses anyway, good to be. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:56.960 How was your weekend? 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:58.960 Laura and I both went away this weekend for a 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.080 long weekend. Incidentally, I booked it first. I just want 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:02.600 to say that. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.400 Actually you didn't I just didn't tell you about it. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.440 Our fortieth birth because we went away from Matt's brother's 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.800 fortieth birthday. It's been booked for like four months. I 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.640 just don't know the weekend and don't Nothing in my 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.840 life is like things happen around me and then I 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:16.360 just show up wherever I'm told to be. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:16.760 I know. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.520 So yeah, so Matt had already planned that entire trip. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.400 But anyway, you did post a photo yesterday from Zulu 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.359 and Zephyr store and I was like, Brittany, you're four 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:26.560 hundred meters away from me. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.280 I also already knew that too. I walked in there 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.600 and they're like, Laura came in here yesterday. Oh yeah, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.120 like and I was like, of course she did. I 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:34.440 was like, I see that bitch enough. I don't need 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.799 to see her on my holiday. No, So Laura and 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.000 I both went to Byra and for separate events. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:39.919 My event was I'm in Love and that was it, 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.119 and Laura's event was a birthday party, but we chose 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:44.760 not to see. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:48.960 To be fair, though, I did say this because I 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.960 was talking to my mother in law about it and 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.519 she was like, oh, is Brittany going to come visit? 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.320 And I was like, Brittany's here on a romantic holiday 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.799 with her boyfriend who she hasn't seen for five months. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.280 Event she doesn't want to see me, and probably more 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:02.920 than that, she doesn't want to see my children. She 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.760 doesn't want to come and hang out at the kids 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.920 pool at Elements with my entire family. There's no part 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.680 of me, not one single iodor of my entire body, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.760 that's offended by this. I'm okay with it, and I 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.799 understand genuinely. It wasn't just that. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.720 If we had more time there, for sure, but we 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.919 didn't actually stay in Byron. We stayed up the coast 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.839 and we went to buying just for the day. I'm 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.639 just trying to show Ben parts of Australia, so. 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.200 Like, with very little amount of time. It is like 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.960 we're in the army, like I have a regime. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.480 He wakes up in the morning and I'm like, this 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:30.959 is what we're doing today, this is what we're doing, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.519 this is where we're going. Because I'm trying to fit 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:34.760 all this stuff in. If it was up to me, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.720 we're just lay in bed, probably have sex all day, 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.000 but he wouldn't see any of Australia in that. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.720 He's like, Australia is amazing. Yeah, it's so warm. I 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.920 love it here. It's very moist. It's so warm, and 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.040 she's like a rainforest. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.680 Sorry, Keisha, Kisha sitting there already disappointed in us. Things 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.680 have spired out of control and we're only at eight 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:54.440 o'clock in the morning. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:55.080 He's funny. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.080 Now, we've spoken about this on the podcast before many times. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.520 The fact that you know, I've been with Ben a 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.600 bit over a year and a half now, but we're 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.360 always perpetually in the honeymoon stage because we spend so 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.320 many months apart. Then we spend a couple months together 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.040 and it's amazing, but you're not really like in that 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.720 deep living together, constantly finding out about each other. But 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.279 every time we spend these chunks of time together, we 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.360 find out something else. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.560 And it's not that it's bad, but I have figured 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.400 out it's not that it's good. It's great, okay, But 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.000 this one thing is the only thing I've realized now 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.240 that I can look back over the nearly two years 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.640 of time. It's the one thing we always fight about 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.320 and I know we'll never ever be able to do 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.240 it without fighting. And that is any form of physical 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:45.719 activity like any sport, golf, mini golf, tennis, badminton, Crisby. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.000 It's the competition element. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.800 So we go to play anything and I just want 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.880 to go and play for fun, Like it's mainly him. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.000 I just want to play for fun. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.119 But immediately we're like ripping each other's jugular out because 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.279 he's so competitive and he takes everything so seriously that 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.240 we were playing, we had a full on brawl, not 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.200 a brawl, but like an argument on the tennis court 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.760 at this place. I know there were people listening. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.160 And I was like, we are leaving. It was like 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.720 a child. I was like, get your racket, we are leaving. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:13.119 What are you fighting about? 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.119 Because he was angry I wasn't good enough on the tennant. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.120 He was like, you know, like he's like, Bri, you've 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.000 played better before. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.599 I know you can do it. I'm like, well, obviously 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.599 I can't do it right now. The balls are not 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.120 going in. The balls are not going in. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.839 Have you ever questioned, like what, because like, I'm all 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.200 for competition, and I'm all for, like, especially as a parent, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.680 like making sure that your kids have drive and like, 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.320 you know, having that competitive edge. I've got nothing against that, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.280 but you have you ever wondered what kind of parent 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.839 he will be in terms of like we. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.159 Like drop and get me triny. That wasn't good enough 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.400 to me. I actually think I will be that parent. Yeah. Yeah, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:46.600 but that's how I was brought up. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.520 My parents were very much like encouraging of us in 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.400 our sporting Yeah. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.560 Like they were like, if you're not foost hue, let 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.440 no drop an elbow. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.679 No, they weren't like that, but like, I just think, Okay, 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.599 that's the one thing that I'm gonna have to accept 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.680 that I love. But I'm either going to have to 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.400 bite the bullet or we're gonna have a divorce. Like 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:05.560 I don't know which way it's gonna go. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.680 I also think you should be expecting that when you 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.960 choose to be in a relationship with someone who's a professional. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.400 Sports player football not tennis. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.280 You're true, but it kind of like doesn't it just 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.080 like bleed out into every sport. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.000 It's the nature of it, right. Yeah. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.919 Last year's fight was over table tennis in Hamilton Island. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:23.520 That's what we had to think about it. When you 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.400 say fight, like to what degree. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:29.360 Oh, I'm proper surarly, I'm like, you've ruined my day. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.040 You're also grudgy, that's The thing that's the problem is 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.600 like it would happen and then you would hold onto 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:35.280 it for the rest of the day. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:36.520 No, I don't. It's actually funny. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.200 We walk away and I'm pissed off, and I'll turn 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.000 around and I'm like i'd be like, I'm sorry I 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:41.520 said that, and still way and he's like, well, I'm 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:42.800 sorry I did it too, and then we walk. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.240 Away holding hands like that's how we fight. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.320 It's cute, but we know that we're disappointed in each 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.840 other's behavior, but we hold hands and like walk off 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:49.360 and make up. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.239 But it's just that's just one of those things I've accepted. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.159 So that was what we thought about the weekend tennis. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.040 Okay, Well, speaking of us not seeing each other on 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.799 the weekend, Matt and I made a stupid real whilst 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.839 we were in Byron because his podcast so like his 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.640 co host on Two Doting Dads, Ash Wiggs, rocked up. Now, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.359 you might look at that video and think I was 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.200 in on the joke. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:08.080 But I want it known. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.040 I had no idea that Ash was coming on our 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.360 family holiday. So it was day one and we were 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.440 going to see our really good friends Josh and Ash, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:17.480 who have a little baby sage. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:18.560 I haven't seen them in ages. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.120 And I said to Matt, Oh, what time is Ash 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.160 getting to dinner? And Matt looks at me really confused, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:25.640 and he goes, what do you mean? And I was like, Ash, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.560 what time's Ash coming to dinner? I'm speaking about Ash, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.640 my our friend, a female Ash who we're going to 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:32.880 dinner with that evening. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:34.880 And he looks me and he. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:39.440 Goes, oh, did you know? And I was like sorry, 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.960 what do I know what? And he's like, yeah, you 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.920 know about Ash? And I was like, yeah, are we 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.040 talking about the same thing because we're going for dinner 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.440 with Ash tonight and he goes, oh, yeah, I forgot 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.160 to tell you. So Ash might he might be in 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.400 town and I was like, he might be in town 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.920 or he is in town. So there was because like 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.320 stoneA Wood is one of their sponsors for their podcast, right, 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.960 and there was a Stonewood Festival happening, and Matt had 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.880 asked me if I wanted to go and just pop 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.560 into the Stonewood Festival and I was like, yeah, sure, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.120 I'll go and check it out, like no problems. Unbeknownst 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.640 to me that during him organizing this with me and 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.280 as getting a babysitters that we could go and do 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.200 this thing. He also had invited Ash, and Ash was 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.160 flying up and I was like, oh, okay, cool, so 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.440 you got You're actually going to the Stonewood Festival with Ash, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.800 not with me. That's fine, But I was like where, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.679 Like where's Ash staying? And he was like, oh, yeah, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.120 he's just staying the night at Elements And I was like, you're. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.360 Keep it in the second room that we hid in 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.560 our village. He's on the pull out trundle bed. Anyway, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:35.360 it was very funny. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.120 I was just kind of like, just don't go into 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.120 the closet tonight. There's Ashes there wearing my robe and 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:40.800 my slippers. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:42.240 Why are you? 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:42.360 Like? 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.600 Why didn't you just tell me? It was so I 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.439 genuinely don't care. It was just weirder that he decided 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.520 to kind of emit all the details anyway. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.760 Thinking do you think you would have cared? Not against Ash, 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.439 but do you think if he gave you enough notice? 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.280 Because obviously he's made a decision. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:57.600 Matt has waited up. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.720 Madd has been like I can either let her know 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.800 and she's in on it, or I can pretend I forgot. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.240 So obviously his his trainer thought, He's like, this is 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.400 the best case scenario is I pretend I forgot and 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:09.800 then it's too late and he's already there. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.320 But also when he said that, I was like, do you, like, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.920 why would you pretend? Like do you think I'm a psycho? 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.720 Like how do you think I'm going to react? Are 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.520 you like trying to minimize and manage? Like a yeah, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.679 like why is your reason for keeping this seat? Anyway, 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.200 I didn't go psycho and actually was fine. I got 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.880 to the Stonewood Festival and I walked talked about. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.760 Last week when you're like, fine, cool, I am the 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.960 cool girl. Yeah, you can hang out with your friends 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.520 and our family holiday. It's fine. I'll just be over here. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.679 So we went to the Stonewood Festival. I walked in. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.080 It's me a long time since I've been to a festival. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:43.200 Guys like love Stonewood, great beer. Do I love loud 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.760 outdoor music when it's raining and it's it was fully 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.840 raining and it was a festival and it's not like, yeah, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.559 no it is. There's two different areas. There's an area 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.719 with laser beams and people had their kids there and 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:59.040 shit sharks sharks with laser bees, and then there was 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.800 another area which was like a big outdoor on like 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:03.760 on stage band. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:10.120 I'm a loser. I love that discovery, that moment. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.520 So we were there for a while and then I 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.360 think I was there for maybe half an hour, and 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:16.800 I looked around at this one point and it was 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.800 so fucking loud. It was so loud, and I have, look, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.960 my hearing is not great, and so I find I 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.720 find loud noises hurt my ears. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:25.400 Okay, guys. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.280 So I was there for about half an hour and 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:28.560 then I just looked at me and I was like, 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.440 you do this, you have this moment with ash. I'm 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:31.840 going to go back and put the kids to bed. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.960 But you know this was BET's planned. No, he was 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.560 to be fair, we'd organize a babysitter. We were all 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.040 supposed to stay out together. And then I was like, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:40.920 do you know what, the babysitter can go home. I 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.160 would prefer to be with my children putting them to bed. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.079 You go to be here, Yeah, I'll go home. I'm 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.160 too old with this shit. I literally looked around. I 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.320 was like, I'm too old for this, even for the 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.720 on stage band, for the on stage loud band. Hurt 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.960 my ears. Anyway, that was it. Look, we have a 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.319 great episode for you today. Now, the thing that has 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.600 been happening in the world that everyone is talking about, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.439 but maybe not everyone knows the details around, like the 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.680 specific details is Donald Trump and everything that's been happening 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.320 with his criminal court case over the weekend. And I 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.000 spent the whole weekend googling and reading up on this 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.600 because I found it absolutely fascinating, and there was part 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:15.800 of me. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.400 I mean, if you know the story. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.400 Lauren's at the festival with the on stage band googling 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:20.239 Donald Trump. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.880 So shows the point of life. I found it so 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:25.960 fucking fascinating. So I was like, how is this adult 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.920 star She's single handedly brought down Trump? And to think 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.040 about the fact that there has been so many cases 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.480 that have been brought against him, but this is the 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.640 first one that actually has been prosecuted. And now this 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.439 all happened over the weekend, and we wanted to get 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.800 someone on to talk through the intricacies of this. So 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.760 we have Charles Croucher joining us in the podcast in 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.200 a little bit. He's a journalist and also a US 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.760 political expert. But before we get into that conversation, britt 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.520 there was something I wanted to share with you which. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:51.480 Is less high brow. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.480 Actually it's very low bra It's so low brow that 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.840 it has to do with uh, the anus. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.000 That's how far down in the low of the brow is. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.440 It's very mid browed. Would you say it's not about feet? 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.599 Is it? It's about buttons? Okay? So there is a TikToker. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.800 Now her name. I thought it was going to be 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.320 about your buttle. Her name is Baby Charlotte one at 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.080 Baby Charlotte one. She's a TikToker. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.880 She is also an only fans star, and she shares 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.360 a lot of things very openly on her TikTok. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:18.720 Now. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.680 I came across this on the weekend and when I 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.120 was also googling Donald Trump funnily enough, and I thought 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.320 this was so funny. First of all, I found this 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.160 so funny, but it was a PSA. And it's a 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:35.200 PSA around bullet vibrators and the orifices that you should 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:36.200 and shouldn't use them in. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.840 Have a listen to this. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:44.120 This is a psa. Do not put them little bullet 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:50.160 vibes anywhere in the back region. Because I am currently 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.400 about to head off to A and E because one 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:59.280 is stuck in mine and I'm sure you can hear that. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.080 Mm hmm. This is going to be very embarrassing. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:05.000 Okay. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.560 So she's sitting in her car, she's doing a like 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.160 a live PSA is She's about to go into emergency 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.920 because she has a bullet vibrator stuck in her asshole 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.360 and it's still vibrating. You can you can audibly hear 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.520 it in the background of the video. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.720 She's also she's visibly distressed. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.880 The poor girl is crying like she of course she 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:24.920 is a bullet vibrator in. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.679 Her but this is what people Okay, And I'm not 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.160 overly shocked because I spent over a decade imaging like 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.920 X raying people with things up their butttholes. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.319 Right, This was a huge part of my job as adio. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.079 How many times a day do you reckon you'd have 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:39.720 or times a week do you think you'd have people 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.200 with foreign objects up their backsides? 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.920 It changed markedly depending on where I was. When I 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.280 was working more regional, not as often. Yeah, when I 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.520 was in the city hospitals all the time, it was 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.360 standard like query on the sheet, it has a question 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:58.120 mark and then it just says fo in anal in anus, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.880 so query foreign object anus. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.360 That was how we would get a referral. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.920 And you just know that someone else has slipped on 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.000 something in the shower, because that's what everyone says. But 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.400 I cannot tell you. It's such a common misconception. People 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.319 don't understand what the butt hoole is. People don't understand 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.079 the anus. The anus is a vacuum. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.320 That's what it works at Like, don't tell me that 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.560 you don't learn things here at laugh on cars exactly. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.640 It acts like a vacuum. So like obviously when you 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.160 do a poop, you're pushing out Wait, do you want 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.960 that noise? If that's sound effect? Again, that's it. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.880 So when you put something up, there's a certain I 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.520 don't know what the terminology is like, but there's a 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.520 certain level. If you had like a pencil, right, there's 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.760 a certain point that it's going up and up and up, 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.720 and your butts doesn't really want to take it, and 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:45.000 then it flips and it sucks it up and that's it, 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.000 and it's a point of no return. And quite often 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.680 it's too far, it's gone, it's deep, and it can 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.000 travel all the way up your bow. I have seen 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.880 a rexona doodor and can up near the diaphragm, which 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.160 that's what it looks like, a whole can of rexona. Look, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.280 if it's not flat, don't put it in there, I 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:02.480 think is the lesson for everyone. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.000 That's not the lesson, Yes it is. If you're gonna 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:05.680 stick things in. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.640 Your ass that are vibrators, make sure the base of 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.160 it is flared. But I wanted to read this to 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.400 you because I mean, that was enough of a story. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.120 I was like, funny, ha ha ha, but also decent PSA, like, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.160 let's not go sticking things in our Assholes aren't supposed 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:16.560 to go in there. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.200 But this article came up on Pedestrian right. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.160 Pedestrian wrote they did it like a piece on this 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.400 But I just wanted to read you the very first 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.400 line of this article. The publisher is Michael di Laio. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:31.040 Sometimes all a girl wants to do is go full 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.120 feral Kirby mode and absorb. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.120 Everything and anyone into their hole. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.920 Imagine typing that out as the first light, being like, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.880 I'm a journalist and that's the first line you put 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.360 together to describe this story. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.440 Also not true. We don't walk around be like, what 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:48.800 can I suck up there today. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.000 It's also so weird that this dude who's a journalist 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.680 has put this together and written that. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.040 I was like, is this you living out your Fantasy's? 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.520 Like, I'm all for a chicks who want to like 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.720 have anal play, but women are not walking around wanting to. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.800 Consume the universe in their asshole. 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.680 If we're vacuuming up our house naked with a but hoole, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:06.480 do you know. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.360 What I've seen on butts before? I would love to 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:13.080 know the list. I have seen a toilet brush cleaner. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.320 A toilet brush, the prickly end, the prickly end, the 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.760 prickly end, like was a Christmas tree doing all its 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.880 prickly tickly things on the inside of the bout. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.000 How did they get it in there? 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.440 The brush itself has the bristles, so I guess when 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.440 you pushed it up it would crush down. And then 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.320 I guess they thought it would open up on the 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.840 inside and the head came off the thing so it 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:32.360 got stuck. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:33.800 Yeah. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.960 I've seen toy cars, lots of little things toy cars. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.720 I've seen batteries very dangerous. You can get lithium poisoning. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.359 Do not put a battery inside of you in any capacity. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.280 I know a guy who's stuck a toy car in 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.920 his backside. Toy cars. You will not believe how common 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.920 the toy car is. I don't know why. It must 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:49.560 be the wheels. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.080 It's an unusual fetish or is it like a male 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.200 fetish because they have a car crush, Like you know, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:55.600 our men love cars. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.480 So they want to consume it with their asshole. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.000 Because no, what I'll tell you is now that i've 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.960 I've never thought about it in this much depth. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.240 Every toy car. I've never seen a woman with a 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.720 toy car upper butt. It's men. It's always a man 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:08.520 at the. 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.480 Time, because obviously you're not working as a ready erefer 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.440 anymore and you're not allowed to talk about those things 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.640 when it happens. But now in retrospect you can be like, hey, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:15.960 this once upon a time there was a guy with 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:16.800 a car is But no. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.679 You actually can talk about it, but you can't have 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.159 any defining features, so like you can't say where it was, 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:22.159 who it was, when it was. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.960 But I can easily say things I've seen up people Like. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.880 There's this whole forums online that people submit the craziest 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.240 things they've found in people's ashole. 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.960 One hundred cent. There was one on our forum that 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.840 was a kangaroo's tail. Wow. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.520 Yeah, people are pretty crazy, you know, And we're not 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.199 here to yuck anyone's yum, but I am. 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.400 If you're putting a kangaroo tail up, I'm yucking you yum. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.080 It's an animal that you're killed and you've chopped its 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.760 tail off and you're masturbating up your butt with it, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.600 I'm yucking you yum in that sense. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.240 Any other way you want to masturbate, go crazy. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:49.720 But if it's an animal, do you know I do 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.520 listen back to this in this podcast, and I think 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.800 sometimes we try so hard to be PC that sometimes 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:55.680 things are said and. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.920 I'm like, actually, I'm not okay with that. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.680 But I was trying so hard to be okay because 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.199 I didn't want to offend anyone anything. Guys, guys do 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.640 whatever you want, and I'm like, fuck that, and then 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:10.399 I realized I'm like, actually, no, I'm not okay with it. Actually, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.399 funnily about that, when we went out to dinner on 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.840 the weekend, we met this really lovely girl and she 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.480 is a lifer listens to the podcast, and she was like, hey, 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:18.240 I just wanted to. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:19.760 Check something with you. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.119 You had Stephen ka Ayemoss on the podcast recently and 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.880 he told actually unfiltered story about how he had a 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.119 dirty kink and he sat on a guy's face and 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.360 hadn't washed his backside anyway, go on back and listen 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.600 to the podcast episode if you want to. She was like, 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.919 I just want to point out you and Britt seemed 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.200 oddly fine with the whole story, and I want to 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.399 let you know how uncomfortable it made me that you 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:40.439 guys were okay with it. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.800 Why wasn't okay with it? I was like, no, you 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.040 can't ever do that. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.520 Well, I think we came across to her especially that 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.399 we were fine with it, and that's kind of what 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.760 made me realize, actually, maybe we might need to be 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.520 a little bit more critical of these things from time 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:53.040 to time. 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.200 Yeah, let's start now, no animals in your buta hole. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.920 On that note, let's get into the really serious political. 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.240 Er, speaking of ours wholes. 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.320 Let's talk about Donald Trump. That's a great segue. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.119 We were thinking about how we were going to segue 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:09.879 this because it's unusual for us, but you are on 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:14.000 that segway, Laura. No, it's unusual for us to talk 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.840 about politics American politics. It's also unusual for us to 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.359 have an interview on a Tuesday episode, But we wanted 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.359 to get someone who was very well versed in American 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.600 politics who could explain the nuance as to why this 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.160 is such a pivotal case. But also, I think if 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:29.760 you were looking at this from the outset, it's very 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.320 easy to go, oh, it's one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:33.760 which I know is a lot of money, but in 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.320 terms of American politics, I'm sure is absolute piss in 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.480 the ocean. Why was this so impactful? And what was 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.800 the role that Stormy Daniels played? And is it the 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.919 affair itself that's problematic, is it the hush money or 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.720 is it how that hush money was paid out to 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.960 Stormy Daniels that was the criminal part of this case. 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:51.000 I think this is. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.560 Why we wanted to talk about this case, because there 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.439 are a lot of people that are more interested in 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.639 American politics right now than ever have been before. And 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:00.840 I mean that's due with the multijd things, But a 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.280 big part of this is a are we really going 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.879 to potentially have an American president that could be in 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.040 jail like he has been convicted. Are we really going 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.119 to have a leader of the free world that is 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.480 in prison? And b the fact that this whole case 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.520 surrounds Stormy Daniels, who was an adult star. It's garnered 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.520 so much more attention than ever before. It's literally the 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.840 stuff that reality TV is made out of. We are 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.199 watching history unfold and that's not me being dramatic. This 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.719 is going to go down. This is unprecedented. It has 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.080 never ever happened before, and it's really worrying that there's 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:36.600 a part of me that thinks I don't want it 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:37.760 to be. It's a part of me thinks that Donald 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:39.639 Trump is still going to win this campaign. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.480 He will become president again. 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.840 But I think the interesting part of this case is, 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.240 and a lot of people probably don't understand from the outset. 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.440 You've seen the headlines and you're thinking, what's the big 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.840 deal about paying somebody hush money? But this criminal charge 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.080 isn't about Donald Trump paying hush money. That's not illegal 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.639 at all. It's about him falsifying the documents of that 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.040 hush money. So I think it's really important we get 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.480 that clear at the start. The second part of this 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.080 that is very Bothersome is the way in which Trump's 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:12.560 defense attorney tried to undermine and take down Stormy Daniels 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.280 purely by slut shaming her. He tried to say that 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.320 she was not a reliable witness because she was a 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.560 very successful adult film star. Part of me is like 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.439 to be in twenty twenty four and think that that 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.879 is an accurate defense to say you like sex publicly, 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.399 so we can't trust anything you say, And I'm like. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:31.840 How are we doing that in twenty twenty four. 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.679 But then there's another part of me that says, well, 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.800 it's twenty twenty four and we're probably going to vote 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.240 in a president that's in prison. 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:38.560 It's actually insane. 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:38.800 Yeah. 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:40.560 But also this has come at a very interesting time 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.199 because obviously this all pertains to stuff that happened in 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.200 twenty sixteen, but now people are saying that the timing 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.320 is actually like very politically timed to try and undermine 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.280 his new presidential campaign, and that it's a conspiracy theory 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.880 from Biden. So we wanted to speak to Charles Croutcher, 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.800 who is an expert on this, to get all of 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.240 the facts. But before we do interim, I just wanted 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.280 to share something that I think is beautifully enlightening. You 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.560 guys would all remember the very famous quote from Donald 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:07.600 Trump where he said you can. 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.680 Do anything grab him by the pussy. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.159 The quote and slogan that's been going around surrounding this 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.280 campaign is the pussy Grabs back, and we thought that 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.080 this was a beautiful way to segue into the chat 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:18.639 with Charles. 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.679 A song by Kim Bokbinder. 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:30.960 Bussy Grabs, Bad, Bussy Grabs Bad, Busy Grabs bats, Busy 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.560 grabspad pussy. 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:37.359 Grabs that Charles Croucher, journalist and US political expert, is 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:40.760 joining us on the podcast Today Live from the US 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.360 to help us get through all of this Trump drama. 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.040 Because the world has gone crazy, not a lot of 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.879 people completely understand what is happening. So Charles, thanks for 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:50.000 joining us this morning. 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.879 Any times I think I would love to start with, like, 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.119 why is it that this is now so heavily in 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.439 the media. Why is this all happening when what I 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:01.840 guess is this circulating around goes back to twenty sixteen. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.320 Yeah, it's an old case, right, but this has taken 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.760 so long for the prosecution to bring this case and 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.840 it's coming an interesting time with Donald Trump obviously running 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.600 for president once again. So this is a case that 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.120 dates back to twenty six stands you said, effectively, the 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.400 case itself is pretty minor in terms of the matter 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.080 of fari that stands some of the accusations of business fraud. 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.159 And while there are thirty four charges, a lot of 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.560 those charges are based off different check stubs, so there 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.520 are felony accounts in there. That's what takes us to 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.520 the new level. And the real reason that there's so 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.120 much interest in this case, but from being Donald Trump. 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.480 Is the question is what does it do to the election. 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.960 That's coming out and what does it mean if America 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.159 is going to vote in a convicted felon, which is 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.040 a possibility and you know, to believe the book makes 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:44.680 it is a likelihood in November. 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:46.440 So that's the sprite. 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:48.600 When you say it's relatively minor. Just for anyone who 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.600 doesn't necessarily understand what it is that he's been convicted for, 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.680 can you run us through what that looks like. 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.600 The accusation and in fact, what has been found guilty 0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:00.800 of is paying money through his lawyer to Stormy Daniels, 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.560 who is a film star, and effectively, as hush money 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.919 during the twenty sixteen election. She accuses Donald Trump that 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.320 they had an affair one night stand. Really he denies 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.560 that's ever happened. But the issue was that the twenty 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.280 sixteen election, Trump had trouble with him and voters who 0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:21.040 was runn against Scillaris Clinton. Clearly he thought this case 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.520 would be damaging to him and through his political prospects, 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.119 so he paid the money to Stormy Daniels as well 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.520 as a non disclosure agreement, and that was enough to 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.000 effectively silence her throughout the campaign with the help of brothers. Now, 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.560 usually if he did that just out of his own money, 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:37.920 that would be considered a campaign contribution, so they have 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:39.600 to write it down and like file the check stuff. 0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:40.480 Now any journal. 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:43.080 Looks through Donald Trump's distilosures and sees that he's paid 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.480 money to Stormy Daniels, he's going to ask why. So 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.720 instead to get around this and use his lawyer, Michael 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.040 Cullen to do it and sort of use through a 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.720 business transaction. And that's where the falsifying documents charges have 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:54.240 come in as. 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:55.240 Well, So it's convoluted. 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.720 Dodald Trump's facing a couple of charges here. This is 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.800 probably the weakest of the charges, but he's now sound guilty, 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.960 So this is the one that will stick for now. 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.040 So speaking about the fact that it was back in 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:06.720 twenty sixteen, it is an old case. 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:07.680 It has been brought up now. 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.479 Obviously it's getting even more media attention because of the 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.560 heat surrounding Stormy Daniels. Who she is, what she has said, 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.160 the slander that's gone on within the case. But who 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.840 has actually brought this case now? Because we've heard Donald 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.560 Trump blaming Biden, saying, you know this is his doing, 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:25.760 He's trying to bring me down. He's corrupt. But we 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:27.959 know it's a state level and it's not Biden. So 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:29.800 who and why has been brought up now? 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.080 Alvin Bragg is the district attorney and in New York 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.080 he is a Democrat. I was elected, so this is 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:36.520 a place where you elect your. 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.920 Attorneys and your prosecutors in some of the situations. So look, 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.120 there's certainly a political motive. 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:41.960 He need gets an out of it, but he says 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.600 he's just administering the law, and the jury sound with him. 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.920 He found they had the case. So that's why Donald 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.000 Trump is blaming Joe Biden. I think in many ways 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.000 it's just throwing accusation to to a free can, right. 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.000 But Harry Truman, why the old presidents used to say, 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:54.600 if you can't. 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:55.960 Convince people, who confuse people. 0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.399 So that's what this is, right, as much confuduring as 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.479 you can and accuse everyone Republicans. Donald Trump's side. At 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.400 the same time, it's using Joe Biden as being old 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.160 and senile while also masterminding this court case and legal 0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.480 case against him. So there's perhaps some inconsistency, is there, But. 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:15.200 It's actually so funny when you say that whatever suits 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:15.760 on that day. 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.320 Yeah, it's hard to have those two charges at the 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.000 same time. You charge and brighten with that, But don't 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.960 forget that America is deeply divided, and they're divided on 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.040 the line of the president. And so if Donald Trump's 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.280 ten think they can just get everyone to go back 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.880 to their corners by using this of being a political which, 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.000 as he says, then they're going to do it because 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.679 they think that will win them votes. And it's certainly 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.879 gotten a lot of money over the last few days 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.480 since the Verticantcent's own. 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.520 In terms of it being hush money and the way 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.439 in which you said that, it's been transferred to Stormy 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:46.280 Daniels through his lawyer. Is there anything illegal about paying 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.400 hush money if it had come through the right channels? 0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.640 Or is Kim expecting Stormy Daniels to have some sort 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.240 of NDA around their nefarious affair? Is that something that 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.320 is actually totally legal if it had been done through 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:57.120 the right processes. 0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.719 Yeah, I think if she signs the contract and it 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.359 is a mutually agreed contract between two consenting adults, and 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.120 it's fine. It is the falsifying documents, which is why 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.119 the case is being brought by the state and not 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.600 by Stormy Daniels herself. She was merely a witness as 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.280 part of this, and she had a couple of days 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.960 of pretty tough testimony on the stand as well. So 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.840 it's the state that brings the case against Donald Trump 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.680 because it's a crime, rather than the person in the 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:21.240 civil trial. 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.680 So then, why, I guess, would she come forward with this? 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.320 What would be her motivator to come forward and bring 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.679 this information if she has signed an NDA. 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.840 Technically, regardless of where that money came from, it's. 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:38.160 Hard to assign motivation. She came forward During his term 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.120 as president, she did an interview with sixty minutes over 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.120 here with Anison Cooper in the US and spoke about 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:43.120 what had happened. 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:44.000 She said she was. 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.520 Instead of a shamed by what went on, and she 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.040 thought it was you know, this is a time when 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.679 Don Trump was married Milanaiir, had just had the youngest son, Baron. 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:52.840 She was upset by it all. 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.600 This you know, this alleged affair dates back well before 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.320 the election. It was just at that twenty sixteen campaign 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.479 when the money was given and there when he became president, 0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.360 she said she wanted to speak out and have her say. 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.680 So that's what she's done, and she's certainly done more 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.639 than that. She's become a household name, particularly here in 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.440 the United States, and that's brought with it a whole 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.199 lot of pressure elsewhere that she's dealing with. So that 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.399 seems the motivation. Look, it may be political. She certainly 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.160 doesn't like to hold Trump and I think she wants 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.520 to be president again, so that's beneficial as well. 0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.320 Yeah, and I think it comes back to the fact 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.680 that she wants to be believed like, this is her story, 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.600 this is what happened, and she's tried to tell the 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.399 story and imagine going up against literally the most powerful 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.600 person in the world at the time, and his supporters 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.040 are so ferocious and fierce, and I know that the 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:38.760 level of hate she got there, and I have heard 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.520 the level of hate she's getting now, like the death 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.400 threats that she's getting from his supporters. 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.240 Well, apparently she wore a bulletproof vest. Yeah. 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.600 Yeah, his defense is trying to make her an incredible witness, 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.600 which I think is I was just saying this to 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.440 Laura before we started. I was like, it's such an 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:56.000 unusual tactic to take in twenty twenty four to try 0:28:56.040 --> 0:29:00.160 to slut shame somebody into being an unreliable witness. Can 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.000 you just tell us about what the angle they took 0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:03.760 and what they were saying about Stormy Daniels. 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:05.160 Yeah, I certainly. 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.160 I don't think that would have won the motor with 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.720 any of the women on the jury. It would have 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.280 been hard to see that. And I guess if you're 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.880 defending someone in a US court, you know there's twelve 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.920 jurors and you've only got to convince one that your 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.600 person is innocent. So that may have been the tactic. 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.120 You put enough dirt on someone and make them doubt 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.560 her credibility. Is witness They did the same with Michael Cohen. 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.040 He's former lawyer who has spent time in prison, so 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:28.800 some of the work and the things he's done with 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.000 Donald Trump. So you know, they were the two main 0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.760 witnesses that the prosecution had, along with some other journalists 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.560 and people that have been involved. But if you can 0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.240 discredit that witness, again, it's the prosecution that have to 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:40.920 prove that he did it. And so I think that 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.120 was the tactic they took with her, certainly in America 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.719 in particular, that there may have been one or two 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.640 people in the jury that could have found that compelling. 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.280 Clearly they didn't, because they all came back with those 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.680 thirty four guilty charges and came back pretty quickly as well. 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.840 Yeah, they basically just said because she was an adult 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.479 worker and like sex that she was trust that she 0:29:58.520 --> 0:29:59.720 couldn't trust her, which is. 0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.000 Why while sex work is real work, right. 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.400 That's the I mean, it seems crazy, but also nothing 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.240 surprises me when you're talking about a country where there 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.200 are a lot of very religious slash traditional views, where 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.400 where many conflicting views around abortion and everything else. It 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.600 wouldn't surprise me if there was one person within that 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.720 jury who had those and upheld those strong sort of 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.640 traditional values, and that may have worked on them. In 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.200 terms of how this is going to impact his presidency campaign, 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.520 is he able to still run for president? Even if 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.400 he was to say, go to jail? Could he still 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:33.120 run for president? 0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.360 Yeah, and jail is one of the options. Certainly, the 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.080 smart people over here you speak to don't think that'll happen. 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.000 They send to believe that you'll get to find a 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.400 more suspended jail sentence that will be handed down just 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.720 before the Republican National Convention, which is a big deal 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.800 in the electoral calendar. It's about the time he was 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.360 meant to be choosing his vice president and would likely 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.120 announce that decision. So it's going to take a lot 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.480 of the option out of that. Even if he is 0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.480 sent to prison, he can run. There is nothing in 0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.880 the constitution but from things like treason that says you 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.920 got run from prison. I think Boston might have elected 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:04.000 a mayor from prison. 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.080 Once, and so he can't. 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.000 And he would then have the opportunity perhaps to pardon 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.680 himself on the other charges or parton himself on these charges, 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.360 which again we're just like the other thing is this 0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.800 has never happened before. But none of this is normal, 0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.240 and so it's difficult when you play out what might 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:20.640 happen because we just don't know. 0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:22.880 I mean, have a listen to this. This is him 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.880 immediately after he has left the court. He's literally still 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.000 campaigning the second he walks out the door. 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.160 This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:37.719 was corrupted. There's a rigged trial and disgrace. They wouldn't 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:41.800 give us a venue change. We were at five percent 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:46.240 or six percent in this district, in this area. The 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.200 real verdict is going to be November fifth by the people, 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.400 and they know what happened here, and everybody knows what 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:54.200 happened here. 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:59.000 We didn't do a thing wrong. I'm a very innocent man, 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.040 and it's okay. I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:07.040 for our constitution. Our whole country is being rigged right now. 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:11.600 This was done by the Baden administration in order to 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:16.120 wound or hurt an opponent or political opponent, and I 0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.800 think it's just a disgrace. 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.680 So you can hear him still here. He's not even 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.560 defending himself anymore. He's at the point where he knows 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.040 he might not be able to travel to campaign further. 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.840 So he's literally standing on the steps of the court campaigning. 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.040 He's used that courtroom as a campaign stop. Yeah, and 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:34.640 he's done it time and time again. He knows the 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.520 world's media there. You know, people are watching on now. 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.160 Whether it's cut through, everyone's pretty over politics over here, 0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.280 particularly the same people coming in again. Right. 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:42.640 But look, the. 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.080 People that's supporting, we're still supporting. They're raised money off this, 0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.560 They've used it as that thing, that sort of campaign platform, 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.960 and now he can go out and actually do the campaigning. 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:52.040 Whether it works or not. 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.920 Joe Biden's team will be out to call Donald Trump 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.600 a convicted felon every day at this election, all the 0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:58.160 way through. 0:32:58.080 --> 0:32:58.760 To piling day. 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.480 And for me, I wonder in the suburbs where the 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.440 really crucial voters both sides in the last election of 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.040 womans for that are targeting what they call suburban women. 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.400 So this is so many times young mums, sort of 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.480 middle aged mums, people that are just trying to put 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.120 third on the table to their kids and go about 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.280 their life. I wonder if hearing Donald Trump is a 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.640 convicted felon for five months will eventually eat away at 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.800 some of those voters in those really crucial states up 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:25.920 in the Midwest, and that might make it harder to 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.560 go and pull the lever or punch a box or 0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.200 put a tick or one next to someone who you know, 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.600 who's been charged with these crimes. 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.080 Well, I guess that's the question. And you've been so 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:36.640 heavily on the ground over there. 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:41.080 Are the general population in America educated enough to be 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:42.920 able to know the difference with what is happening here? 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.960 And I say that in terms of will people just 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.440 look at the top line clickbait one that he's a 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.000 convicted felon, and two on Trump's side just saying this 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.120 is a smear campaign that Biden has brought on to 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.160 bring me down, which you know, one of those is untrue, 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:58.280 and it's obviously. 0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.760 Biden Trump is a convicted felon. 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.400 But do you think people are to surface level that 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.880 they'll just take a headline and that's how they'll make 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:06.000 their political decision? 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:06.920 I think. 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:07.280 Well. 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.000 The other thing over here is the media landscape is 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.560 so divided, and again in many ways along the line 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.520 of the president. So those people that support him are 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.879 the former president. Sorry, those people that support him will 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.560 be watching Newsmax. You know some of the more right 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.319 wing groups on Fox News and beyond, and they will 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:27.359 be defilming and in some case parodying Donald Trump's lines. Now, 0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.880 if there are people that are more democratic based or liberal, 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.120 they might be watching MSNBC or listening to their podcast 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.040 and hearing the same thing that they think this guy's 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.640 convicted felon. So in many ways, people use news over 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:38.799 here like a therapy animal right. 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:39.359 They can use. 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.319 It to prove that you're right and to reinforce what 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.040 you've said. So that makes it difficult. The big question is, 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.200 and the American system is so convoluted and ridiculous when 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.000 it comes to electing a president, but it's going to 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.440 come down to effectively five states, and you just wonder, 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.919 I keep going back to the suburbs what they think 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.080 of this in the suburbs. Chances are they probably aren't 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.000 paying attention to the call day they've seen him going 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.120 out of court. When they switch on after the summer break, 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.719 before we get towards that November election, this will come 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.719 up and it's up to the campaigns now they will 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:13.160 have to sell that message and be convincing and remind voters. 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.520 The best ad campaigns are the ones that confirm or 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.200 reaffirm what voters already suspect of someone. I suspect those 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.600 people that didn't vote for Donald Trump last time to 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.760 suspect he's a crook. And they've now got a pretty 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.080 good case, the Biden team to make that argument to 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.480 the American public. It depends, you know, it's not compulsory voting. 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.520 It depends who shows up on a Tuesday in November. 0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:35.719 You know. 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.560 Are those people that voted for Barack Obama then Donald 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.880 Trump in sixteen then went back to Joe Biden? 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.880 Is this enough to move them back to Donald Trump's side? 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.319 You know, he's the one that has to make up 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.080 ground on the last election. 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:48.040 I think this hurts. 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.000 Is he facing any other charges. 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.640 He's facing another couple of charges, more compelling charges. One 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.439 in relation to January six that's still being spelt out 0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.920 and that won't be heard before the election. There's one 0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.360 in Georgia where he asked the Secretary of State and 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.920 the governor down there to find votes effectively so he 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.840 could win that state because it was so crucial in 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:09.520 twenty twenty, And he's on tape saying it. 0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:10.040 That one. 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:14.160 It seems like a stand up and knockout case, if 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.080 they ever get up to actually saying it, because it's 0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.560 been all kinds of trouble with the prosecution and perceive 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:20.399 and perceptions of bias down there. 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:21.880 So look, I don't think. 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.160 Either of those cases will be heard before the election. 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.879 And that's where we get that uncharted territory. If he's 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.320 elected again, he can pardon himself from these cases. 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:30.880 What do you mean by finding votes? 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.600 But he asked to find votes, they were down by 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.200 the margin was around twelve thousand. Someone will know in 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.319 the comments and know what the actual margin was. But 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.400 he is on tape asking him to find the amount 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.200 of votes he needs to win the state. That's the 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.960 whole question, right, is he asking him to falsify those votes? 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.000 Is he asking him like that? 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.440 Sounds like mob talk about a way of getting over 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.279 the line in Georgia. Now, as it turns out, it 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.319 wouldn't have mattered in the overall result. But given he 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.759 is on tape and recorded by a man who is 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.680 now the governor, it's a hard case to you against. 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.640 Now he would just say he meant count all the 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.000 legal votes and you know, purtain and go out and 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.000 exercise democracy, but I don't know. Some of the language 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:10.080 there is pretty difficult. 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:11.040 So it'll be interesting to see. 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.279 If he loses the election in November, then there is 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.719 the chance that those cases will come up probably next year, 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.600 and we might see don't Trump back in court again, 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.600 and they have more serious charges and more serious punishments. 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.040 So is there any documentation that says anywhere, because it 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:28.879 is unprecedented that a president can continue his presidency if 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:29.840 he's put in prison. 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.360 Yeah, I don't think there's anything that says against unless 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.680 it's for treason. And again, he would have the option 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.520 because the president can pardon people, so he can pardon 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.560 himself and effectively eliminate the charge. 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.560 Can he actually pardon himself because I was on an 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.160 impression he can't. A president can't pardon themselves. 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.280 It depends on which charge and in which area. And again, 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.760 this is all we played out the cooks. This hasn't happened, 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.040 like we haven't had a situation. 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:52.840 You know. 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:54.880 Richard Nixon was the closest we got to something like 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.279 this happening, and he got pardoned by his successor, so 0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.000 that was kind of taken off the table. There's peace 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.239 that have been vice presidents have got in trouble for 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:03.200 I think Aaron. 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:04.200 Burr one of the early ones. 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.200 For anyone that knows Hamilton, he was charged with once 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.200 something the treason as well, and got off the charges. 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.239 So this is unprecedented, This is not normal, and so 0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.000 all of this is legal theory that I don't think 0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:15.920 anyone ever thought would actually have to play out in 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.680 a court. But we are steering around the face that 0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.440 that may just happen, and that would be up to 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.680 the Supreme Court really, which don't forget Donald Trump put 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.239 three of those people along the court and we'll see 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:23.640 how they go. 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.160 What does it mean moving forward now for stmmy Daniels. 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.880 Look, she has been through a lot. We be interesting 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:31.759 to see what she chooses to do. I think she 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.479 has come out of this. I saw it this morning. 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.719 Year she's done an interview and spoke about what that 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:38.879 time was like on the case. You know, it's been 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:43.200 really difficult and she will no doubt have some difficult 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.399 times moving forward as well, whether she tries to go 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.840 down the civil case or civil charges against the president. 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.200 I don't know what her legal options are without being 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.480 a lawyer, So she's going to be a household name 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.080 here and there are in a deeply divided country that 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:58.640 we have to go back to. There are people that 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.440 we will see her that way for auts. I mean, 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.480 you look at the situation with Monica Lewinsky, who has 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.600 only sort of found her voice in the last few years, 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.240 and she speaks about her experience. This is very different 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:12.160 and much more public, and I think we'll hear more 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.680 from Stormy Daniels about that in her own way. 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:15.400 I hope. 0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.799 And lastly, Trump's obviously going to appeal this case. What's 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.799 the likelihood do you think this will get overturned? 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:22.439 But difficult to say. 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.440 Look, the jury was very quick in returning their verdict. 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.319 The Trump team will argue that it's in Manhattan, it's 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.200 a pretty liberal place and therefore it was hard to 0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.239 find a jury. They went through a lot to get 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:37.440 the final people they did. Whether it can be overturned 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:39.960 before the election, I don't think there's enough time now. 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.680 Things move slow. It's a glacial legal system over here. 0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.920 So look, I think he knows now his best chance 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.319 I think of avoiding this punishment and potentially further down 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.560 the line, is to win the election, and that would 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.959 be all of America. Effectively being the jurors when they. 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:55.439 Have their say. 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:57.680 He said that, you know, this is the final verdict 0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.640 could be given on November fifth when they vote. 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.239 Over here, crazy America could have a president, you know, 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:03.760 ruling the free world that's in prison. 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.840 That remarkable is none of this is normal. 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:07.239 That's the thing. 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.680 We've become so to sensitized to it, like none of 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.960 this is normal. What happened in twenty twenty isn't normal 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.120 the way that all played out. So we are in 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.600 some really interesting times at a time when the glow's 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.520 pretty vulnerable and we need the leadership. 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.479 With democracies, it's. 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.919 A minority sport, and there's it seems like they're getting fewer, 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.160 and this one's looking pretty fragile. 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:26.200 We don't have a lot of good choices. 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:27.799 I either do one thing's got to win. 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.960 Yeah, that's a scary thing. And it was almost going 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.200 to be Kanye West, which is worse. It's crazy, the 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:34.719 whole thing. 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:40.120 Okay, it's time for accidentally unfiltered your most embarrassing story. 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.360 We've got a very low key, holesome one. 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.800 I was working at an RSL club and you didn't 0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.279 often get a chance to go to the toilet. This 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.680 one day, I was absolutely busting, so when I got 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.920 the chance, I raced down the hall swung into the bathroom. 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.960 I would normally check the toilet first, but things were urgent. 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.880 It was one of those toilets where the door opens outwards, 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:01.440 so I raced. 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:02.680 In, pulled the door shut. 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.479 As I backed into the toilet, ripped my pants down, 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.160 and as I sat down. 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.840 I felt something that didn't feel like a toilet seat. 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.319 I jumped up and screamed. I looked around to see 0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:13.200 a little boy. 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.759 No older than six years old, staring back up at me. 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.000 He just looks shocked. 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.040 You imagine taking your pants off and sitting on a 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.799 kid that's far His mum was in. 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.640 His toilet next door and was like, oh my god, 0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:28.919 I'm so sorry. I didn't shut the door, probably because 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.200 he's only six, thinking that I must have just opened 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:33.839 it and noticed it there. She doesn't know I sat 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.479 on him with his pants on. I ripped my pants 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.320 up and ran back out without going to the toilet. 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.440 I should have apologized for scaring her son, but I couldn't. 0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.880 Oh my god, that is that is extraumatizing. 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.880 I know it was very innocent and not meant to be, 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.319 but like, I feel for that kid. 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.880 That kid is not going to be okay, what happened. 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.200 At least she didn't start we actually she sat down 0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:58.680 side wing. 0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:00.880 I can't, I can't do you know what happened to 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:02.960 me on the weekend. So we're at the pub in Barron. 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.080 I'm on the toilet doing a number two and Lola, 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.000 which it's not my fault, sometimes you got to take 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.960 the kids to the toilet with you because she needed 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.640 to go. I didn't know I needed to do a 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.279 number two. It hit me as I was doing a 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.880 week as it always as it always does. And she 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.680 just opens the door and fucking walks out, just walks out, 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.399 and the door is too I was like, Lola, don't 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:24.399 you don't you touch it? 0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:25.320 Don't you touch it? 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.520 You can't get up missed and she and she just 0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.240 opens it and goes by Mommy going back to Daddy, 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:33.080 walks out there. I am this poor woman runs up. 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:34.680 She's like, I'll keep the door shut. She doesn't know 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.520 that I'm doing a poop, dude, not just keep. 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.799 A door shut, going stop the small child. I was like, 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.040 at this point, let it go, let her rehome myself. No, 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.160 I'm not at all. I don't mean that I love 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.520 your disclaimers. I don't mean that she should be re home. 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:47.960 You don't need to. 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.080 Sometimes I worry that people think I don't love being 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:52.959 a mum, But I really love being a mummy. 0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.360 It's the best thing ever. They know that they'm actually 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:56.880 putting your kids on Facebook mark place. 0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:01.440 Yeah, people don't believe used free to good home, pick 0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.520 up today, pick up straight away, please. 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:09.279 On curbside, home home, honesty box, leave donation. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.560 All right, suck and sweet for the week. I mean 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.160 that could have been my suck, but what was your 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:18.279 suck for the week? My suck was coming to like 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.799 a really hard realization that Ben and I are not 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:22.320 always going to be able to share food. 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.080 So like a big part of my existence and what 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.200 I wanted from a relationship was obviously trust, love, respect, 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.719 and I also wanted someone to share food with. 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.480 However, because that's how I order my food, I would. 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:37.000 I would never order my own meal Like that is 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.040 crazy talk to me. I want to be able to 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.520 order a few Hey, do you have you up your bit? 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.080 Will swap halfway like, because I want. 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:43.760 To taste everything. 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.960 We're so far into that in our relationship that Matt 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:47.759 just knows what I would order, so he'll just get 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:49.160 a thing that will compliment my order. 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:49.480 Yeah. 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.239 So Ben will be like, well, if you want that, 0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:53.560 then order two meals. And I was like, what, but 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.279 I just want to try some of yours, like I 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.960 don't want a whole other meal. He's generally pretty good, 0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.560 but there's some things he won't budge on. And I 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:01.680 had this realation on the weekend that there's some stuff 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.480 I'm not gonna be able to share with him. Other 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.479 stuff he's fine, but he'd be more happy to pay 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:11.000 for an extra meal then share some stuff. Not everything. 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.760 But sometimes he's like, I also feel like the chicken. 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:15.799 But I was like, but I'm getting the chicken. He's like, yeah, 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:16.600 but I also want it. 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.120 And I'm like, fuck my life. And you're like, we 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.640 can't order two chickens. But we did. We ordered two chickens. 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.160 Can you believe it? That is crazy to it that's 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.040 the same meal we ordered two. I hate that. 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.959 I know, Okay, why would we both eat the same 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.359 thing when we could eat each other's meet. 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.680 Each other full stop out. 0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.600 So my sweet was just the fact that I went away. 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.040 I had a really wholesome weekend with Ben. We're still 0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:44.600 falling in love. I made myself sick cut that we 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.279 had a good weekend. We function on cut that as well. 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.760 Let me find my feet, okay, leave them both in please, 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.440 all right my weekend? Hang on, I have a real one. 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.400 Oh I thought that was it? No cool, that's it? 0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:02.600 Leave it okay, my slack for the week. 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.239 We had a leaking window at the front of our 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.440 house and we got it repaired recently, and over the 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.480 weekend whilst we were away was the very first time 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.480 we've had like proper big storms. 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.680 And the leaking window is not a leak anymore. 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.600 We had an indoor fucking water feature, so the window 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.120 had been installed in correctly. And now the whole wall 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:21.319 has to be taken out of the front of our 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.719 house and redone, which is like we've already been through 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.319 that process for two weeks and now we got another 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:26.160 two weeks of doing it. 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.560 So that is Helen her. That's crazy. Actually it's not really, 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:30.719 it's but it's inconvenient. 0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.840 And it's more inconvenient because my sweet is Matt's mum's 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.280 back from her French trip that she went over to France. 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.000 She did two and a half months of French lessons 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:40.640 and French speaking and how. 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:44.200 Many French rendezvous No joking, she didn't shoot us. 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.080 Never tell you, no, I reckon, she'd tell me if 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.200 she got boned by a Frenchman. 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.440 She got a bit of baguette. But did she even salami? 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.960 What did she get some like a stick of salami? No, 0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:57.120 that's not sliced. 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.560 I no, she did it, and but she would tell me, 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.480 but no, that's like she thinks that those days are 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:05.160 long gone for her. 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:06.399 But she's but she's back. 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:07.799 And so the reason why it's even more of a 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.040 suck is because that is her bedroom. So the front 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.000 room in our house that had the leaking window is 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.320 her bedroom, and so we wanted to get everything repaired 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.719 before she came home. And now she's home, and she's 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.000 not gonna have a bedroom to be in for a 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.800 couple of weeks. So it's it's just very inconveniently timed. 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.200 But I'm really happy that she's home, and I really 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.360 adore that I have such a awesome relationship with my 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.359 mother in law because I think most of the time 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.520 you always hear horror show stories around people's mother in law's, 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:33.520 but mine's just the best. 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.600 I want the mother in law Jackpot. Yeah, she said. 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:37.480 We love Ellie. I love Ellie. 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.879 She's almost like my You'll have her if you could 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.279 take her mother in law anyway, guys, that's it from us. 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.319 We hope you enjoyed the episode before we let you go, 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:44.959 don't forget. 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.000 We have a YouTube channel now so you can go 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.879 and watch all of our episodes. 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