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Speaker 3: Cop? Doesn't hear the bad cop? You hit the bad cop?

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Speaker 3: You die, bitch?

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Speaker 3: Go, son's going down. Yeah, he'll be like, okay.

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Speaker 2: Then, hey, good cop, you come come with me, and

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Speaker 3: That's not where you want to be with this guy.

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Speaker 2: But I'm willing to be in persion.

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Speaker 3: What do you and what are you know? Addressing me?

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Speaker 3: You're going to address him in sanscrit? Or are you gonna?

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Speaker 2: Can you give me a greeting in sanscript?

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Speaker 3: Please? Well, no one speaks sanscrit anymore. It's like an

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Speaker 1: Could you please look up a Persian Hello.

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Speaker 3: It's also written in characters rather than in letters. Sanscrit

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to read that sorry, Snaya, what

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Speaker 3: Goodbye? In now you die? Well, that's what if he's

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Speaker 3: because if he says to you at any stage today, know.

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Speaker 2: What that means.

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Speaker 3: And I know what that means. You're going to put

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Speaker 3: worried about that. Tom. I feel like we're going to

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Speaker 3: need to find another phone. I wasted another whole podcast

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've wasted. I think there's a good

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Speaker 3: We feel like we made some steps with me in

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent great Mindly feedback would be just ease

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Speaker 3: kV wants to page in.

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Speaker 2: I have a connection to the university that he works on.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is good.

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Speaker 2: Can you please get next part?

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Speaker 3: By the way, we shouldn't need kV to have a

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Speaker 3: international institution. Why can't you find the phone? You could

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Speaker 3: can't dial out one three hundred numbers on a system.

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Speaker 3: Why is the university got a one three hundred number.

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Speaker 3: All right, this is what I was talking about. This

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Speaker 3: we need this is behind the scenes, behind the scenes chat.

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Speaker 3: People on the podcast do not need to hear my

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Speaker 3: brother works there so he can get his number, of

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Speaker 3: no doubt. Yes, get your brother to look up the

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Speaker 3: internal direction during his mobile number.

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Speaker 2: Oh brilliant, that's God, you're good at this time.

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Speaker 3: Well, he just spent five minutes trying to call it

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Speaker 3: a number in Australia, so little blight on. That's gonna

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Speaker 3: be all the next pod.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna call Kv's brother. Sorry, I just have

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Speaker 2: the number. We won't call the brother to get.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about with he. This is why

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Speaker 3: I just think it's important to keep these steps on

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Speaker 2: I want to hear the conversation with you. Brother.

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Speaker 3: Have lost all of your all your authority in this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Damn it. It's always happens