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Speaker 1: And Amanda Jamnason.

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Speaker 2: Well, remember where we were when Armie Hammer in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, there was a whirlwind of accusations that he

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Speaker 2: was into cannibalism.

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Speaker 3: You know, not many actors have to come out and

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Speaker 3: put out a pressly saying I'm not a cannibal.

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Speaker 1: I am not a carnibal. Honi, Armie Hammer.

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Speaker 2: We've interviewed him when he was in that movie with

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Speaker 2: Johnny Depp, that Terrible One.

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Speaker 3: A lone Ranger.

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Speaker 1: It was a lone ranger.

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Speaker 3: He's as handsome as lovely kid.

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling that when we're doing the interview.

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Speaker 3: During a big chicken leg.

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Speaker 1: A big steak.

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Speaker 3: None of that was true. What is interesting is he

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Speaker 3: has been completely canceled as cannibal should be, but he

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Speaker 3: has said, I'm not a cannibal. What's I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what has happened? He said in a podcast just released

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Speaker 3: on Sunday. He said, people now think, yep, that guy.

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Speaker 3: Eight people so multiple women had accused him of sexual

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Speaker 3: abuse and coercion, which is nothing to laugh at, and that,

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Speaker 3: you know, is fair enough. But they shared private messages

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Speaker 3: where someone alleged to be Hammer expressed an interest in

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Speaker 3: calimbalism and sadistic fetishes. So this all a one woman

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Speaker 3: said that he'd expressed a desire to break one of

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Speaker 3: her ribs and eat it. He branded her, he left

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Speaker 3: a covered in bruises and talked about consuming her. This

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Speaker 3: is what a third woman, an anonymous person, has said this.

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Speaker 3: He says that all the relationships he had with these

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Speaker 3: women were completely consensual, discussed and agreed upon in advance,

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Speaker 3: and mutually participatory. So since then he has suffered what

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Speaker 3: he calls an ego death and a career death. He

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Speaker 3: ended a Florida rehab facility for drug, alcohol, and sex issues.

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Speaker 3: He said, in a way, it's grateful for the situation

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Speaker 3: can force him to confront a pattern of unhealthy behavior.

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Speaker 3: Who was Annoyeddy missed out on that Dharma role? Jeffrey Darma.

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Speaker 1: It's got a bit method, you know what this?

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Speaker 3: I think this is an interesting story and I might

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Speaker 3: have a very unpopular take on this. All that stuff

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Speaker 3: about coercion, sexual abuse, etc. Yes, deal with it, the

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Speaker 3: law deal with it because that's appalling and women have

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Speaker 3: every right to take that as far as they can.

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Speaker 3: But should you be canceled for your private thoughts for

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Speaker 3: privately having a fetish about cannibalism or any of those things.

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Speaker 3: If you're in a relationship or having a feeling with

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Speaker 3: someone who says that stuff to you, I understand there

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Speaker 3: was coercion, etc. Involved, But you say, look, it's not

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Speaker 3: my cup of tea. Is it fair that your thoughts

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Speaker 3: now can have you canceled? Your thoughts can end your career,

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Speaker 3: your private sexual thoughts.

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Speaker 1: If you keep them to yourself, then you're fine.

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Speaker 3: But who keeps in a sexual relationship? Who keeps those

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Speaker 3: thoughts to themselves? That's what he's saying. He shared that

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Speaker 3: and other women say, Okay, that's freak. He equals he

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Speaker 3: eats people, and people now think he's a cannibal, which

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Speaker 3: isn't true. It's the same thing we spoke about the

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Speaker 3: other day about girls at the gym who film men

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Speaker 3: looking at them, or they put cameras in their pockets

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Speaker 3: so they can see guys looking at their bums. There's

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Speaker 3: now eleven a level of coercion that's going the other

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Speaker 3: way or in trapman or catfishing or what's it called clickbaiting?

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Speaker 1: Yep, where it's in.

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Speaker 3: First trap it's people can't be free anymore and rightly so,

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Speaker 3: as I said, if he has been found guilty of

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Speaker 3: coercion and abuse, that is one thing, But to be

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Speaker 3: found guilty of having weirdo sexual thoughts.

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Speaker 1: So you're cannibal sympathetic.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not cannibal sympathetic, but I wonder where it ends.

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Speaker 3: Do you need to have a gun holster taped to

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Speaker 3: the side of your head so people can't plunder your

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Speaker 3: thoughts and go public with you? At what point is

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Speaker 3: your is your private life no longer private even your

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Speaker 3: sexual fantasies?

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Speaker 1: Has my head turned into a giant boat face because

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Speaker 1: I noticed your salivation?

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Speaker 3: You know you'd be a pumpkin that's face.

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Speaker 1: No pet names, Yeah, I don't look at

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Speaker 3: You and think vegan