1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: it's the fifth of May, and today we're talking about 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: the really significant story that dropped earlier this week about 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: an impending overturning of Roe v. Wade. We'll go through 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: what all of that means and what the implications are 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: for women in the US. But before we get there, Sam, 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: there were some strikes across New South Wales. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: That's right, So teachers across New South Wales went on 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: strike yesterday for the second time in six months overpay 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: increased negotiations. The New South Wales Teachers Federation said acting 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: on uncompetitive salaries and unsustainable workloads is the only way 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: to stop more teachers leaving New South Wales. Education Minister 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: Sarah Mitchell responded that industrial action doesn't serve any purpose 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: in getting that outcome. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Australia fell from twenty fifth to thirty ninth in this 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: year's World Press Freedom Index. According to the researchers, press 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: freedom in Australia is fragile because of quote ultra concentration 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: of media ownership found quote Overt censorship in Australia is 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: extremely rare, but that the media reflected certain biases. 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Dominique Perrete has defended the state's 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Anti Corruption Commission after Prime Minister Scott Morrison described it 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: as a kangaroo court. Perrote said the Aykak plays an 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: important role in upholding integrity and confidence in politicians and 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: in public servants. 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: Just some good news now, and this was some good 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: news from earlier in the week that we didn't get 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: to cover up because it's that much good news. But 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: New Zealand opened its borders to sixty nations and this 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: of course is following COVID nineteen. Those countries include the US, 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: UK and Singapore. 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: We'll make no mistake, cure this is an indication that 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: this is a court eager to overturn Roe versus Way. 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Those were the sounds of the protests outside the US 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Supreme Court and a bit of a sense of the 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: tone of the news in the US at the moment. 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: It comes after elked document tells us that the U 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: s Supreme Court is set to overturn the case of 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Roe v. Wade Zara. There's a lot to break down 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: in this story. Why don't we start with looking at 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: what exactly Roe v. Wade is? 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So it stems from a decision made by the 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: US Court as long back as nineteen seventy three. Now, 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the U. S. Supreme Court is, of course the top 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: court in the US. It gives the final say on 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: all of the big issues. So in nineteen seventy three, 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: the U. S. Supreme Court found that women had the 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: right to have an abortion without excessive government restriction. As 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: you can imagine, it was pretty huge at the time, 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: and it's been really really significant since because it essentially 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: means access to safe and legal abortions is a right 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: enshrined by the Constitution and that it can't be outlawed. Then, 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two, a separate case in the Supreme 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Court of firmed the nineteen seventy three Roe v. Wade 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: decision and said the government can't impose what they called 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: undue burden on women seeking an abortion. Long story short, 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: it's the case that has been used to protect the 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: right to an abortion in the United States. And why 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: are we talking about this today, Well, something pretty extraordinary happened. 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean two extraordinary things happened. The first was that 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: there was a leaked draft majority opinion that has never 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: happened before in the Supreme Court's history. And the second, 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: of course, was the decision itself. 63 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: Okay, let's slow that down. What's a majority opinion. 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: It means there's been a decision reached by more than 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: half of the members of the court. And in this case, 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: there are nine justices in the US Supreme Court, so 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: a majority opinion basically means that more than five of 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: them have agreed to a decision. 69 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So the way it works is that majority opinion 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 2: is represented by one of the judges who writes the decision. 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Is that the document that we discovered this week. 72 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what we saw. So earlier this week, Politico, 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: which is a really significant media organization in the US, 74 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: they dropped this story that there had been a leak 75 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: of a majority opinion from the U. S. Supreme Court, 76 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: which suggested that the Supreme Court had voted to overturn 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade, so vote to overturn the right to 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: an abortion in the United States, which it can't be underestimated. 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: It is a massive deal. As I said, the draft 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: was obtained by Politico, who said that they had authenticated 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: what they were publishing. 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: So this was a ninety eight page document. What was 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: the general reasoning of the judges. Well. 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: It said that there were five justices who formed the 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: majority opinion, including Amy Coney Barrett, who was quite controversial 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: when she was announced as a justice in twenty twenty 87 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump. And the wording of the majority opinion, 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: which was written by Justice Samuel A. Alito, was quite unambiguous. 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: It was very much straight to the point. It said, 90 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: and I quote, the Constitution makes no reference to abortion, 91 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision. 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: It went on to say that it is time to 93 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: people's representatives. 95 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 2: And by people's representatives, they then are referring to the states. 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: So how final is this decision? Is this exactly what 97 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: we're going to hear from the Court in a few months. 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: It's not final by any means. Under Supreme Court practice, 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: a draft decision goes through a number of iterations before 100 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: being presented in court, and in some cases, votes can 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: change between the drafting of a decision and its release. 102 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: So it could technically change. But unless something was to 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: radically change the composition of the Supreme Court, which right 104 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: now has majority conservatives, it's unlikely that anything will change 105 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: in this time period. 106 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: So let's assume that the document we have in front 107 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: of us is indeed going to be the final version. 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: What's that going to mean for Americans? 109 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: If the Court does overturn its previous decision that abortion 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: rights are guaranteed by the Constitution, this doesn't actually make 111 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: abortion illegal across the country, but it gaves the way 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: for individual states to legislate that so to make it illegal. Currently, 113 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: there are thirteen states with what we call trigger laws 114 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: that would automatically ban abortion if Roe v. Wade was overturned. 115 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: These states are deeply conservative southern states that include Texas, Oklahoma, 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: and Wyoming. On the other hand, several states have enacted 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: laws which would automatically keep abortion legal if Roe v. 118 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: Wade was overturned, and it follows that those are the 119 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: more progressive states like California, New York, and Hawaii. 120 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: So this all happened about fourty eight hours ago. What's 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: the response been like. 122 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: Well, importantly, Chief Justice Roberts confirmed that the draft leak 123 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: was real, so he ordered an inquiry into how the 124 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: document got leaked. The Supreme Court is traditionally one of 125 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: the institutions in the US that is considered what we'd 126 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: call leak proof. It's unprecedented that a document, especially one 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: this significant that will change so many lives, would be 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: leaked to the media before it was delivered by judges 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: in court. There's fears that the factor document was leaked 130 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: is going to have a serious impact on the way 131 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: that the court operates and the trust of the American 132 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: people in the highest court in their legal system. It 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: wasn't just from Chief Roberts who we heard. We also 134 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: heard from President Biden, and he addressed his concerns about 135 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: the news, the idea that. 136 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: We're going to make the judgment that is pointing to 137 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: say that no one can make the judgment to choose 138 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: to a board of child based on silot. I think 139 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: those way. 140 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: Overbord as is expected when such monumental news breaks that 141 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: affect so many people in the US. There's also been 142 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: a wave of protests across the country, including outside the 143 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: US Supreme Court. It's fair to say that there are 144 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot of women in the US who are absolutely 145 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: furious about what has happened this week and are really 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: probably scared about what the future holds if Roe v. 147 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Wade is overturned again. It then hands over to the States, 148 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: so women could face the reality of having to leave 149 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: their states, take leave from their jobs, and access transport 150 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: leave the aforementioned to be able to access an abortion 151 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: in a different state, which then brings up a whole 152 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: nother host of issues about socioeconomic factors and everything else 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: that can affect this decision. 154 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: A really monumental moment in American politics. As to when 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: a final decision is going to be handed down by 156 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, Politico are reporting it's about two months time, 157 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: but it could be either side of that, but we're 158 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: expecting a decision in about eight weeks. That's all we've 159 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: got time for on today's edition of The Daily os. 160 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: If you want to catch up with news throughout the day, 161 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: find us on Instagram at the Daily OHS and we'll 162 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: speak to you tomorrow.