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Speaker 1: You do know that there's been a lot of different

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Leah, Good morning Katie and your

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Speaker 1: Now, Leah, first things first, we have had quite a

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Speaker 2: Why haven't we heard from her? Yeap, and that's fair.

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Speaker 3: I have been spending time with my young family, particularly

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Speaker 3: so I took that time. But equally, Katie, I have

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Speaker 3: and it was important for my whole team that the

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Speaker 1: Liah. Some people saying, you know, THO were questioning whether

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Speaker 1: you should come back early given the crisis that was

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Speaker 3: Look, what I know is that my team didn't exceptional

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Speaker 1: So no regrets, no wishing that you'd have maybe come

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Speaker 3: Well, look, it's really important. We all have families and responsibilities.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 1: Now, Leah, I think holding the government to account at

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Speaker 1: what we've seen unfolding over the last well it's not

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Speaker 2: It's gone into the national spotlight.

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Speaker 1: In the last few weeks, but this has been a

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Speaker 3: I've had that trip planned for some time and it's

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Speaker 1: So what's your response to the announcement earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: I was hugely disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, if I was Chief Minister Katie, I would have

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Speaker 2: Not good enough.

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Speaker 3: And everyone you know cried the warnings in mid last

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Speaker 1: So, Leah, what is the CLP's approach this year, because

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Speaker 1: So, as Parliament it goes back next week. We know

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Speaker 3: So we know that Territorians have no confidence in Natasha

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Speaker 1: So you are going to move a motion of no

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Speaker 3: Next week we will give notice of that motion. It

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Speaker 1: How do you think that this needs to happen? What

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Speaker 1: Because this is quite an unprecedented thing to do. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Top The last no confidence motion was in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: So, Leah, there's going to be a lot of people

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, there are some complicated timeframes that I can't do

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Speaker 3: it will come on in March. There will then be

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Speaker 2: So that debate will happen.

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Speaker 3: As I said, we will be appealing to the backbench

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Speaker 1: Lea.

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Speaker 2: This is a big call. It's a very big call.

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Speaker 1: To move a motion of no confidence in the Northern

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Speaker 1: good to do, but you know, how will the COLP

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Katie, and there's a very stark difference between us. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: We will be reversing.

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Speaker 3: I mean this government brought in the disastrous raising the

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Speaker 3: We will put law and order front and center. I,

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Speaker 1: Leah, is this just a publicity stunt because the likelihood

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Speaker 3: and be tarnished by what has been a terrible government.

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Speaker 3: But I know people can't keep living like this, Katie.

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Speaker 3: You know, Territorians have always fought to protect their lifestyle

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Speaker 1: Well, Leaf and ol Kiara, I'm interested to see exactly

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Speaker 1: how this all goes and very interested to hear from

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Speaker 1: our listeners this morning about their thoughts on these zero

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Speaker 1: before I let you go, Robin Lamley, the Independent member

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Speaker 1: Fararah Luhn has this morning issue to statement. She made

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Speaker 1: taken the step of referring the Northern Territory Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Chancey Paike to the NT Independent Commission against Corruption for

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Speaker 1: failing to declare his conflict of interest with the local

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Speaker 1: She says, do you support this? Do you think that

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Speaker 1: this needs to happen?

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly we all have an obligation to report to

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Speaker 3: the Member for our Luhin has got information that has

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Speaker 3: So it will now sit with the K Commissioner and

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Speaker 3: of course that process will take pay place, and it's

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Speaker 3: a very important process. And territories need to have confidence

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Speaker 3: that there is integrity and government and that's exactly why

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Speaker 3: there is an IK Commission. So I think people will

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Speaker 2: Katie Lea, I've got.

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Speaker 1: A message here from Keith in Malak. He says, Team

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Speaker 1: I applaud the opposition to move a no confidence motion

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Speaker 1: it's required. However, I don't have much confidence in the

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Speaker 1: young COLP team that one there from Keith, What do you.

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Speaker 3: Say to that oh look, Keith, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for reaching out, and I encourage everyone to write to

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Speaker 3: express to them why they should be supporting of it.

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Speaker 2: Keith, please have confidence.

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Speaker 3: I have a committed, dedicated, energized team who are so

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Speaker 3: passionate about the territory. We're devastated to see how labor

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Speaker 3: a great place to live, work and enjoy our lives.

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Speaker 1: Leah Finocchiaro, the opposition leader, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us in the studio this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Wonderful to say you