WEBVTT - Cashed Up Coachella, Influencer Power Imbalance & The Kardashian’s Eggstravagant Easter

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Outspoken, your dose of the hottest

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<v Speaker 1>influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalists Kate

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<v Speaker 1>and Sophie. On today's show, Daddy bloger Brad Kerns is

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<v Speaker 1>owned by his stepmother. In awkward clapback the Kardashians over

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<v Speaker 1>the top Easter celebrations, Sky Wheatley snubbed from Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>and cashed up Coachella. But first, you may have noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that our podcast artwork has changed. We have officially rebranded,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very exciting. Hopefully it's an upgrade from the

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<v Speaker 1>paint esque album art cover that Amy created. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it on painted it on photo shop well that

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<v Speaker 1>it was looking rather unprofessional. So well, that old photo

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<v Speaker 1>was taken in Amy's family room. We removed everything off

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<v Speaker 1>the wall so we had a white background, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't looking good. But thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's really lovely feedback on the photo. Most people seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be liking it, so we really appreciate the support.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty funny because a few people said they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hear about the behind the scenes of this photograph.

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<v Speaker 1>And how we ended up picking this particular photo and

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<v Speaker 1>we decided we wanted to get a professional to do

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<v Speaker 1>it this time.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got the amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Adelai photographer Josh Gleeson to take the photos, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was hilarious and he really did have his work set

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<v Speaker 1>out for him, because we are not great at being photos.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, Amy, you kindly put together a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a mood board. And if you look up most podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>most podcasts have two people in the cover artwork.

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<v Speaker 2>It's often not three people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you were looking into examples of three people

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<v Speaker 1>posing and you sent across all these photos where.

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<v Speaker 2>These women were doing these like blue steal looks, but

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<v Speaker 2>you were more thinking smiles. Well, no, there was only

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<v Speaker 2>one photo of smile. They were all very moody, and

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<v Speaker 2>you sent this through to.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh, and you more meant that you wanted the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>aligned like that. Anyway, he got a totally different vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we arrived, he was forcing us to do

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<v Speaker 1>all these blue steal looks and I'm sorry, but my

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<v Speaker 1>only look is smiling, like I cannot do anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And at one stage he asked us to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a sexy look, and we were just like we just

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<v Speaker 1>so we did not have that repertoire. And our boyfriend's

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<v Speaker 1>like pissing themselves laughing when we told him, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're very much just a cheesy smile. I said to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys before we went in, let's just let him

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<v Speaker 1>know that we just want smiley photos. And you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are like, no, nah, let's just you know, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what he'sal I did love it because there was this

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<v Speaker 1>shot that's probably never going to make her onto the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>It was beautifully shot by him, but we just looked

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<v Speaker 1>ratshit in it, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like we're stuned mullets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically us sitting on a couch and so so

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the actual couch and Kate and I are

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of the couch and we're.

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<v Speaker 2>All holding cool photos. Yeah, all holding hands in this

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<v Speaker 2>weird way. It is so bad. We didn't even want

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<v Speaker 2>to share our boyfriends. It's so embarrassing. Well, you actually

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<v Speaker 2>came up.

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<v Speaker 1>With the idea Amy for the photo that we actually chose,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was actually one of the last photos we took.

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<v Speaker 1>And Amy had this idea that she wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>holding a microphone and you spent hours. We went down

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<v Speaker 1>to km up bought you know, a ten dollar microphone

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<v Speaker 1>and you is it b jazzed bejazzled it. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take me hours. Approb took a half an hour anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were too embarrassed to get our props out

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<v Speaker 1>because we're like, does this look blame that we've booked

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<v Speaker 1>propped with us?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it ended up working out quite well.

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<v Speaker 1>So that tea too cut paid for itself. I drag anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>my Diamond Aaron came up and the O Janet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun those kid Nay.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kardashians are well known for their over the top parties,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Easter celebrations this year have divided opinions. Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell us more so? Chris Jennet channeled her

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<v Speaker 1>in at Easter Bunny this year and transformed her home into.

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<v Speaker 2>Every child's dream Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I follow a number of the Kardashian Jenna clan on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and almost every Insta story was the same. So

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<v Speaker 1>Chris had set up quite arguably the most instagrammable Easter table.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were large personalized chocolate eggs set up on

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<v Speaker 1>the table for each family member and the theme of

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<v Speaker 1>the decorations was pastor, so there were beautiful pastel eggs, flowers,

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<v Speaker 1>and Easter themed sweet food everywhere, and there were even

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<v Speaker 1>massive gumball machines set up. So these appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>a gift from Kylie Jenner to stormyt Chicago, True and Dream,

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<v Speaker 1>and at first.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Why the boys didn't get one too, But then I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that there were also four bikes set up, and

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<v Speaker 1>presumably they were for the boys. I know a few

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners were confused because we posted this in

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<v Speaker 1>our Facebook community, and then a lot of them were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the gumble machines were just hired out,

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<v Speaker 1>because surely the Kardashians wouldn't allow that to be in

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<v Speaker 1>their house all year round.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it would fit their aesthetics truly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw, but the kids also

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<v Speaker 1>received massive hampers from Christian and so did all of

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<v Speaker 1>the parents. And I must add there were no Humpty

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<v Speaker 1>Dumpty or cream eggs in sight at this Kardashian Easter extravaganzer. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if they were from Australia, they'd be having hags in

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<v Speaker 1>those baskets.

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<v Speaker 2>I think and I noticed they did an Easter egg hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, normally you buy the bag of cab

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<v Speaker 1>or the bag of Lynch chocolates. They had these plastic

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<v Speaker 1>eggs which had toys in the middle of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>hit them for Archie. Actually on Easter morning? Did they

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<v Speaker 1>have toys?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Now they had Smackos in them?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to say they had cash

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<v Speaker 1>in them.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't we have a friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It was family hid cash around the house. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one of Brandon's friends from school. Yeah, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of Easter eggs, it was money around the backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just obscene. Now, obviously this was extremely over the

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<v Speaker 1>top and not your average Easter celebration, so a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people jumped online to slam the Kardashians for being wasteful.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of comments saying that the Kardashian

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<v Speaker 1>kids were going to become spoilt brats, and to be honest, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a chance that they're not at all? I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't the only stuff that they get spoilt with,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is probably just very subpar normal for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, have you seen their Christmas? I know, but

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those kids aren't hanging out with the normal

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the school yard, aren't they. They're hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>at schools of other very wealthy families. Oh I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with this person's sentiment though, because can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine growing up thinking that that's normal. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe the Easter baskets they had because there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many toys and it was just so much excess,

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<v Speaker 1>And it did make me feel sick thinking the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that was just going to be thrown in

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<v Speaker 1>the bin, because if you're a Kardashian child, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>on the daily you're getting lots of presents, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just just made me feel uncomfortable. It did make

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<v Speaker 1>me think, imagine if Mason, who's caught his son, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if he ended up marrying a normal and in quotations,

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<v Speaker 1>I say normal, normal person and he went to their

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Day and he was just like.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where personalized hampers. Now, while there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of criticism about the Kardashians Day, there was also a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of support for the lavish Easter, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>I personally enjoyed having that fly on the wall access

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<v Speaker 1>to their celebration, and to be honest, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>kick out of seeing how the other half live because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so different to what we do on the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I just find it so fascinating. What did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>actually think about it? Well, I'm a person that loves

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating things like I just love organizing events and I

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<v Speaker 1>love buying people presents, So I kind of think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had all that money, I'd probably do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, but I probably would juxta position it with

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<v Speaker 1>then donating a lot of things to charity or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe doing something for the environment that counteracted all.

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<v Speaker 2>The use of the plastic.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, a lot of people were saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't be wasting all that money, they should be

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<v Speaker 1>donating it to charity. But the thing is, the Kardashians

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<v Speaker 1>actually do donate a lot of money to charity, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also do a lot of charity work, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't publicize it. The thing is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying it's tone deaf because we're coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of a pandemic and a lot of people have lost

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and can't afford to celebrate Easter and I totally

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. However, social media is a form of escapism.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the Kardashians can spend their money however

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<v Speaker 1>they want to. But you do have to admit that

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<v Speaker 1>the food that they had made for that party was

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<v Speaker 1>extremely wasteful. And I've always wondered what happens to all

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<v Speaker 1>of the food and decorations once the celebration is over.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did do a bit of.

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<v Speaker 1>Digging, and I found that Chloe Kardashian had previously answered

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<v Speaker 1>a tweet from a fan asking that very question. So

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<v Speaker 1>Chloe said, the day call is normally rented, but anything

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<v Speaker 1>personal like the quote science, I have in storage for

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<v Speaker 1>another function one day. The food leftovers always gets donated

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<v Speaker 1>to a food bank or church. Sometimes the food may

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<v Speaker 1>go elsewhere, depending on the situation. So that made me

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<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit better about the situation. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're so savvy they're not going to be throwing

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<v Speaker 1>it in the bin.

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<v Speaker 2>So where are the gumball machines gone?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they just going into storage? Surely they're not taking them.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely they didn't eat all of the gumballs or chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>in them. I just think it is so on brand

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<v Speaker 1>for the Kardashian to do something this lavish.

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<v Speaker 2>And I, for one, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just on the train of enjoying it rather than

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<v Speaker 1>criticizing them for it. Yeah, especially if they're putting in

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<v Speaker 1>measures where the food is donated and that they are

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<v Speaker 1>renting things and reusing them.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it's the bomb McDonald.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dramatic has revealed that Sky Wheatley was dropped last

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<v Speaker 1>minute from appearing on this season of Big Brother Back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Future, which is set to feature Australia's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>former housemates Amy Can you tell us more? Yeah? Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Journalists Meg and Pisetto revealed Big Brother producers had initially

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<v Speaker 1>included Sky in the lineup, but were forced to drop

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<v Speaker 1>her from the show after she made controversial comments about

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<v Speaker 1>her partner Lockie listeners will remember back in September, Sky

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<v Speaker 1>was asked in an Instagram Q and A who was

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<v Speaker 1>more dominant in the bedroom out of her and her partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Sky responded saying, ha ha, me, but only when he's

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<v Speaker 1>mad and says he doesn't want to have sex. Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>nobody telling me no? I won't take no for an

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<v Speaker 1>answer if I want sexy time. Now, these comments led

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<v Speaker 1>to heavy backlash online, so it's not surprising producers chose

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<v Speaker 1>to drop Sky. I'm a bit surprised, though, because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that they would want to ride the controversy, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sky is always in the news for saying controversial things.

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<v Speaker 1>She would have gone into the house and offended people

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have got them a lot of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really surprised me that they cut her. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have really liked to see her in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. Although I would have loved to see

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<v Speaker 1>her on the show, I really respect the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brothers producers got rid of her because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that for so long many followers have been questioning why

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<v Speaker 1>she never receives any sort of backlash, or not backlash,

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<v Speaker 1>but any repercussions for her behavior, because there's just been

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<v Speaker 1>a string of stupid shit that she said, and the

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<v Speaker 1>brands don't seem to drop her. She seems to get

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<v Speaker 1>no punishment from it. So I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>quite just and I think maybe it'll make her think

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<v Speaker 1>twice about making, you know, just chucking up a stupid

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<v Speaker 1>comment on Instagram that has the potential to hurt people

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<v Speaker 1>who are viewing it.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is jama Ja apastrophe. Mie weird name, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>but you'll get used to it. Yes, I come from

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most expensive private girls schools in the state,

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<v Speaker 3>but I am actually really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Controversial Australian daddy blogger Brad Kerns has been called out

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<v Speaker 1>online by his stepmother. The drama began when Brad complained

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<v Speaker 1>his parents dressed him in big w clothes as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>The drama showcases the real life impact of influencers, over

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<v Speaker 1>sharing and the imbalance of power. Firstly, Sophie. For those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know who are the Kerns family well, Brad

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<v Speaker 1>and Sarah Kerns attracted a following on social media when

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah was admitted to hospital shortly after her son Finn's birth.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>While Sarah was in hospital, Brad began to share posts

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<v Speaker 1>detailing the difficulties of looking after their other two children,

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<v Speaker 1>Knox and Teddy, and taking on the role of mum.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that was the catalyst for Brad's Instagram account called

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<v Speaker 1>dad Mum, which has now attracted over ninety four thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 1>While his wife Sarah is an influencer in her own

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<v Speaker 1>right with over eighty one thousand followers. On Instagram now.

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<v Speaker 1>Before making it big on social media, the couple previously

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<v Speaker 1>worked as police officers on the central coast of New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales. The couple are well known online injecting humor

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<v Speaker 1>into their posts and often joke about the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>living with a partner and complain about each other's little quirks.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Brad has divided opinions online. While some followers love him,

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<v Speaker 1>others criticized him for perpetuating stereotypical gender roles, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to household chores, and he was in hot

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<v Speaker 1>water recently after he shared a selfie on his Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>story doing laundry at a hotel. In the caption, he

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<v Speaker 1>told followers he became the chief laundry officer once per

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<v Speaker 1>year and asked whether he deserved beers for doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>A follower wrote in, saying once per year, no beers

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<v Speaker 1>earn and no hero. Stereotypical gender roles still in play

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<v Speaker 1>with the washing it seams now. Brad publicly responded, saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to introduce a daily asshole leaderboard for this

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<v Speaker 1>crap from now on. Thanks for the passive, aggressive, incorrect,

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant and downright rude message, I said, Chief once per year,

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<v Speaker 1>not that I'd do it once per year. Now, Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell us about this latest controversy that has unfolded?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the latest controversy erupted last week when bradshard a

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<v Speaker 1>post on the couple's dad Mum Facebook account discussing his childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>In the post, he claimed he doesn't have a birth

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<v Speaker 1>certificate and had to stop playing football when he was

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<v Speaker 1>younger because he needed one to register to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the team. He also discussed going without as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote, I remember on mufty Days, which is known

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<v Speaker 1>as casual days elsewhere or carnivals, I choose to stay

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<v Speaker 1>home instead.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't want to wear my big w clothes to school.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always self conscious of that stuff. I'd bleach

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<v Speaker 1>my own shirts and wash them daily because I hated

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of them being yellow. I repainted the same

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<v Speaker 1>BMX every year from twelve to seventeen, just so it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look like the same one at the skate park.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd borrow my friend's sports gear or old boots because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have my own. There are things from

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<v Speaker 1>childhood that are still so vivid. The things have followed

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<v Speaker 1>me into parenthood.

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<v Speaker 2>They do. You can't avoid it, no matter how silly

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>He then went on to say that he refused to

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<v Speaker 1>let his kids wear secondhand clothes, even if it's uniform spares.

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<v Speaker 2>He then finished off by saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a kid who wants to make sure his

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<v Speaker 1>kids never feel like he sometimes did. What has caused

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<v Speaker 1>so much attention is that his stepmom commented under the post,

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<v Speaker 1>claiming that his recollection of his childhood was untrue and

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<v Speaker 1>that she worked hard to provide the things that she

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<v Speaker 1>gave him. She then went on to make claims that

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<v Speaker 1>Brad was a rebellious teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>She also alleged that.

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<v Speaker 1>He had taken part in other behavior that for legal reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>we won't go into. I just think this whole saga

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good example of what happens when influencers overshare.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we all know that a big part.

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<v Speaker 1>Of being a successful influencer is being authentic and transparent,

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<v Speaker 1>and this pushes so many influencers to tell detailed stories

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<v Speaker 1>about their lives. But I think it's really important to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that these stories are coming from their own perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is where this imbalance of power comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and It's really not for us to say whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not Brad's recollection of events are true, but it's clear

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<v Speaker 1>his family don't agree with the picture he is painting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is evident there is an ongoing family rift

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<v Speaker 1>and it's sad to see this all playing out online.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Brad has opened up previously and said he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a relationship with his extended family because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk to him, and I can only imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting it would be from his family's perspective having information

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<v Speaker 1>which they deem as untrue posted to Brad's large following. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems really unfair for influencers with large followings

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to share these private details that do

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<v Speaker 1>have implications for others. And it seems like it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where families want to set the record

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<v Speaker 1>straight and the only way that they can do this

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<v Speaker 1>is by talking publicly on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that we are going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Begin to see more and more instances like this where

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<v Speaker 1>influencers families try to set the record straight or have

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<v Speaker 1>their say on the matter. I do remember last year

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<v Speaker 1>we saw Georgia Love's stepmom come out and write some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty public comments about Georgia's so I agree. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I think we are going to see more and more

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<v Speaker 1>of this play out online, I think the really tricky

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<v Speaker 1>part is that a lot of these family members don't

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<v Speaker 1>have large social media platforms themselves, so they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same reach that their famous family members do. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>I can sort of see why if you're a disgruntled

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<v Speaker 1>family member, you might feel tempted to go and comment

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<v Speaker 1>on the influencer in questions posts because that's where a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of their engaged audience are. However, in most instances,

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<v Speaker 1>influencers will quickly moderate the comments, but these days people

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<v Speaker 1>are so quick to screenshot and share the comments on

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<v Speaker 1>influencer forums, so quite often these messages do actually cut

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<v Speaker 1>through to the mainstream. The thing is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>only options family members have to silence their influencer family

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<v Speaker 1>members or to put their side of the story out.

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<v Speaker 1>There is also suing for defamation to set the records straight,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all know just how expensive legal dramas like

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<v Speaker 1>that are, so I can see why people are resorting

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<v Speaker 1>to clearing their name online.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't really a new thing. For years, celebrities have

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<v Speaker 1>had family dramas, and before everyone had a rite of

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<v Speaker 1>reply on social media, it was quite common for celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>family members to come out and write memoirs of their

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<v Speaker 1>famous family members' lives, and recently we did see it

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<v Speaker 1>with Britney Spears's sister Jamie Lynn. That's right, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing got me thinking about how much influencers

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<v Speaker 1>put into creating their online personas, because you hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of discussions about how influencers appear larger than life

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<v Speaker 1>on their stories, when in actual fact they're introverts. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's obviously a recipe to becoming a successful influencer, and

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<v Speaker 1>clearly a big part of that is building a strong

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<v Speaker 1>parasocial relationship with your followers, and one big way to

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<v Speaker 1>do this is of course sharing personal details about their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes their audience feel connected. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>more personal experiences better in a lot of cases, so

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<v Speaker 1>things that other people can relate to. And I do agree,

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that influencers can benefit from projecting a

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<v Speaker 1>rags to riches's story, So it's easy for audiences to

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<v Speaker 1>turn on influences once their lives start looking different from

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<v Speaker 1>their own, and we often do see this underdog influencer

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<v Speaker 1>getting all the love when they first start out. However,

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<v Speaker 1>once they make it and start earning the big bucks

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<v Speaker 1>and moving into mansions, audiences suddenly begin to get jealous

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<v Speaker 1>and no longer relate to their lives. So once certain

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<v Speaker 1>influencers do make it big, I think that they do

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from trying to portray their previous lives as relatable

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<v Speaker 1>or misfortune, so there is still that element of relatability. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, now, Sophie, I know you took great offense

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<v Speaker 1>to Brad backing out vic W clothes, because I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard you stop going on about it. I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was a really bizarre element to the story, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of parent bloggers and mummy bloggers their

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<v Speaker 1>staple is working with bread like Big W. Target came

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<v Speaker 1>up those sort of brands that a lot of families

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<v Speaker 1>can afford, and personally for us, Big W was a

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<v Speaker 1>staple in our wardrobe when we were going through primary school,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think these days that those sort of chains

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<v Speaker 1>are bringing out really cool clothes for kids that are

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<v Speaker 1>affordable for family. So I was surprised that he was

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<v Speaker 1>shitting on Big W a bit. And also it has

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<v Speaker 1>been brought to my attention that he did do a

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration with Big W when they brought out a Disney

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<v Speaker 1>range of pajamas. So I do think it's quite interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he could have just said crappy clothes or

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<v Speaker 1>no brand and clothes. He didn't have to specify Big

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<v Speaker 1>W just thin Devil's advocate, though, So I do think

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<v Speaker 1>with the rise of social media, kids are more judgmental

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<v Speaker 1>than ever about the clothes they wear, and also the

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<v Speaker 1>clothes other children wear. So I can actually understand this

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<v Speaker 1>notion of wanting to give his children the things that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have, all the things he felt like he

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<v Speaker 1>missed out on. But perhaps he just hasn't gone about

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<v Speaker 1>it the right way. With this blog post, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you become an Instagram influencer?

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<v Speaker 3>You just got to like pull yourself out a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit and travel and like live your best life and

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<v Speaker 3>not care what people's thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what do you influence people to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think probably come to like events like this

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<v Speaker 3>and waste their money.

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<v Speaker 1>After a two year hiatus, Cachella returned and it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like the world was back to normal. Influencers flocked the

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<v Speaker 1>event and flooded our feeds with selfies and rules to

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<v Speaker 1>make us jealous. However, it seemed like something had changed. Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think it was? I think our attitude

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<v Speaker 1>towards influencers has changed so much since the pandemic that

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<v Speaker 1>every influencers content just looked like a blatant ad, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>for fast fashion brand.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my age, but I just looked at every photo

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<v Speaker 1>and couldn't get over how stupid the fashion looked. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, yeah, it's a place to be seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the perfect backdrop for influencer brand endorsements, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so obvious that they're all there to cash in

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<v Speaker 1>and make a lot of money, whether it's a free

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<v Speaker 1>trip a paid promotion, and it's just hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of look at that content and enjoy it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon it would be the best place for people watching,

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<v Speaker 1>except I wouldn't actually want to have to be out

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<v Speaker 1>there amongst the crowds, because remember we used to joke

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<v Speaker 1>with our best friend Owen that we'd love to own

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<v Speaker 1>a bar, but we'd love to sit up in an

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<v Speaker 1>office and have one of those reversible those mirrors control room. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you can see out, but they can't see in

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<v Speaker 1>and you just sit in your trackie dacks and.

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<v Speaker 2>Just people watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you probably could have worn your trackie jacks

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<v Speaker 1>and a bra to coach Oller. Okay, just some of

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<v Speaker 1>the clothes were ridiculous, and yeah, I'm not I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>so out of fashion, but I was just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff. I'm like, how could you wear that all day?

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<v Speaker 1>It looked so uncomfortable. So just a bra, trackie dacks

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<v Speaker 1>and body glitter is that basically all it was? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basically in some very ninety pigtail hairstyles. Now it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fit in daytails. So if you're my look the high

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<v Speaker 1>school was that we weren't. We're not that old that

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<v Speaker 1>we were in high school on the nineties. Amy just

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<v Speaker 1>putting it out there. Yeah, well, do you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a cool place to be or do you

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<v Speaker 1>just look like a sellout now? It was interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>The New York posted a story outlining the day in

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<v Speaker 1>the life of an influencer at Coachella, and they interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>a US influencer about her Coachella schedule, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty funny because she said, despite the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth time she's attended the event, she still is

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<v Speaker 1>yet to attend a performance because she's too busy creating content.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she wakes up around seven am to get

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<v Speaker 1>a hair, makeup and look sordid before attending a series

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<v Speaker 1>of brand activations and parties, and spends hours editing videos

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<v Speaker 1>and photos to send to brands for approval, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the time the performers take to the stage around sundown,

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<v Speaker 1>she is absolutely exhausted now, she said. With her reach

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred and eighty six thousand followers, she can

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<v Speaker 1>make upwards of ten thousand dollars on Coachella, so she

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<v Speaker 1>charges two thousand dollars for a no frills photo and

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand, five hundred for an Instagram video reel. She

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<v Speaker 1>explained though, that brands usually want more than just a

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<v Speaker 1>post from Coachella. She said, they want you to attend

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<v Speaker 1>the event. They also want you to do stories. They

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<v Speaker 1>may want multiple posts. They want you to post even

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<v Speaker 1>before Coachella leading up to it, so there's more opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to make more money now. CEO of Obviously, which is

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<v Speaker 1>an influencer marketing agency, was also quoted in this article,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said Kachella is so big it's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest festival and the biggest festival for influencers. Everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>there and wants to make a deal and wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be with the best brands, and the brands want as

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<v Speaker 1>many influencers as possible to be part of their activations,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're actively recruiting influencers. So, just to explain how

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<v Speaker 1>it all works, brands provide influences with free accommodation, airfares

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<v Speaker 1>and festival passes in exchange for promotional posts, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of this US influence, the brands are also

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<v Speaker 1>paying her for additional content like photos and videos. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, even if you don't get a free,

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<v Speaker 1>all expenses paid trip, there a lot of influencers go

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<v Speaker 1>and pay their own way because it's all a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of relevancy. Attending Coachella makes you relevant. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was really interesting to take a look at how

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<v Speaker 1>some brands approached Coachella this year. So there is a

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<v Speaker 1>fintech company called Willer and they use Coachella as a

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<v Speaker 1>launching pad for their influencers only airline. So the company

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<v Speaker 1>found success by creating an app that allows social media

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<v Speaker 1>creators and freelancers to easily get paid by agencies and brands,

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<v Speaker 1>and they made a lot of money of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>they've now launched what they're calling Willer Air, which is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially a private jet higher service just for influencers. So

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<v Speaker 1>to create excitement, they launched a competition for twelve influencers

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<v Speaker 1>to win flights to Coachella. Now the package included a

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<v Speaker 1>pre flight lounge in Venice Beach with a concierge check

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<v Speaker 1>in and champagne breakfast. Now on the website it said

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<v Speaker 1>that they provide adaptogenic beverages. Now I had to go

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<v Speaker 1>google this term because I had no idea what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those people like me who have no clue,

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<v Speaker 1>these beverages have ingredients in them like mushrooms and herbs

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<v Speaker 1>that counteract the effects of stress.

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<v Speaker 2>On the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're actually not allowed in Australia, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about them. Is that because it's so stressful to

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<v Speaker 1>be an influencer or the stress of flying?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a bit of from column A and a bit

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<v Speaker 1>from column B. Now, post festival, the airline provides influencers

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<v Speaker 1>with recovery IV drips at the departure lounge and future

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<v Speaker 1>trips are likely to include New York Fashion Week. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>another brand that generated headlines was Revolved, so they developed

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<v Speaker 1>a Coachella adjacent two day festival which influences compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the Fire Festival. Now, if you were on Instagram last week,

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely would have seen photos at this event, which

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<v Speaker 1>is in its fifth year of existence. So while it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an official Coachella event, it is the place to

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<v Speaker 1>be with k K. Kardashian and Kendall Jenna in attendance.

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<v Speaker 1>So previously the event has been invite only. However, this

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<v Speaker 1>year it appears Revolve extended invites to micro influences and

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<v Speaker 1>essentially oversold the events. So basically, micro influencers weren't treated

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<v Speaker 1>the same as big influences, with some asked to pay

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars for spot on the invite list. So

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<v Speaker 1>Kate what happened that caused so much controversy? Well, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the event wasn't as picture perfect as it was made

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<v Speaker 1>out to be on Instagram because there were reports online

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<v Speaker 1>that the event was mismanaged. So the only way you

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<v Speaker 1>could actually get to the Revolve festival is if you

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<v Speaker 1>took one of their specific shuttles to the grounds. So

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently the logistics started to get dangerous, with people shoving

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the buses because there weren't enough buses

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<v Speaker 1>for the people. And as time passed, things escalated, with

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<v Speaker 1>influencers apparently screaming at each other about who was more

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<v Speaker 1>important and thus deserved the transport, And apparently there were

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<v Speaker 1>security guards that tried to get involved and people are

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<v Speaker 1>screaming like, no, I've got a million followers, and the

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>security guards were like, I don't even know who these

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>people are. There were also claims that influencers were feeling

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>dizzy and didn't have any water, and apparently people were

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<v Speaker 1>passing out in the heat, and it got so much

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>for some influencers that they didn't even make it to

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>the festival. Now the designer clothing brand was forced to

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<v Speaker 1>issue an apology after they were accused of mismanaging the event. However,

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>influencers didn't receive the sympathy they were hoping for from

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<v Speaker 1>the general public. They were they were mocked online and

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<v Speaker 1>told to suck it up and that they were entitled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the general public had a good point

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<v Speaker 1>because influencers are given a free ticket for these lavish events,

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<v Speaker 1>they're given free food, free drinks, designer clothes, It's the

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<v Speaker 1>place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did you guys think?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel sorry for the influencers or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they needed to suck it up a bit and

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<v Speaker 1>just wait for the bus?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it bad that I've just kind of had some pleasure?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that stuff. I think a lot of people did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just pretty funny because I don't know, to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine all of those influencers one trying to fit their

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<v Speaker 1>egos in the bus, as well as obviously it being

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>jam packed with too many people. It's just a funny thought,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly with people being like a gun one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand followers, it's just I don't know, just such a

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<v Speaker 1>dick measuring competition on the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching a lot of UK influencers at Coachella

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<v Speaker 1>and did you hear this?

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<v Speaker 2>Goss?

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<v Speaker 1>So, do you guys remember Lucinda from UK Love Island?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? She was with Millie really really yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically apparently Toby McGuire aka Spider Man approached her

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<v Speaker 1>at Coachella. Why sumi Coachella or over DMS. She was

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<v Speaker 1>just telling this story at Coachella and asked her.

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<v Speaker 2>Out and she didn't know, really, she didn't know who

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<v Speaker 2>he was.

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<v Speaker 1>She she was joking that she'd be like, are you

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<v Speaker 1>Lizzie Maguire's brother?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was thinking I thought that he had a

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<v Speaker 1>long term partner because I googled afterwards and it sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like he had a long term model partner.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, he's a lot older than here. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's I think he's in his forties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that probably doesn't mean too much in these circles

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<v Speaker 1>that they're moving in. On a more local front, I

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>saw a picture of Jack from The Inspired Unemployed with

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Lucy from The Wild Ones, and I was like, are

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they suddenly an item? Because they looked quite cozy at Coachella. No,

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a girlfriend. I think he's got

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a model girlfriend, so I'm assuming they're just friends. Oh

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>my god. I saw this and I had to Google

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, are they together or does he have

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>another girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I did a lot of in depth looking in.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I cared so much, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people were also saying that it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool that two people who have really popular

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>podcasts are becoming friends. I suppose it is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What was also very cool to me was seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>Meski twins hanging out with Saffron Barker, Like, I always

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<v Speaker 1>find it weird when I see Australian influencers mixing with

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the UK ones. Does anyone else, Yeah, it is always

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit weird. I was quite jealous because I do

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>love Saffron. But the thing is, I always find that

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<v Speaker 1>it's the influencers who have a lot going on that

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>don't actually attend Coachella because they're so a bit of

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a burn that they don't need Coachella, you know what

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, they don't need Coachella to be we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Molly May, because Molly May wasn't there, your Queen,

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Molly May was at home doing your house account. So well,

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