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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm a lawyer turned health coach,

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Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife, and dog mum. On the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health,

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Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who

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Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves,

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Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put

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Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring

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Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself,

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Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals.

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Speaker 1: Are you with me, girl friends, Let's rise and conquer.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of the

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Speaker 2: Rise and Conquer Podcast. Today, I am bringing you along

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Speaker 2: to a chat all about conquering diets and diet culture

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Speaker 2: with one of my new favorite people, Phoebe from the

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Speaker 2: podcast Confessions of a twenty somethings train Wreck. This episode

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Speaker 2: is a replay episode of an interview I did on

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Speaker 2: her podcast, all about both of our experiences when healthy

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Speaker 2: becomes unhealthy. You know, this is a message I am

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Speaker 2: so passionate about because it consumed me for years and

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Speaker 2: it was so detrimental to my physical and mental health. Also,

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Speaker 2: I know this is something so many other women struggle

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Speaker 2: and deal with. This episode is in the format of

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Speaker 2: Phoebe's podcasts, and we were sitting around drinking champagne while recording.

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Speaker 2: So even though it's a really important message and there's

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Speaker 2: so many good nuggets in there, it's also very funny

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Speaker 2: and entertaining. I absolutely love Phoebe's podcast, The Confessions of

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Speaker 2: a twenty somethink train Wreck. You guys have to go

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Speaker 2: and check it out. I'll make sure I put all

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Speaker 2: the links in the show notes of her podcast bit

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Speaker 2: you could easily just search that on your podcast app. Also,

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Speaker 2: make sure you go and follow Phoebe. Her Instagram is

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Speaker 2: at twenty something train wreck.

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Speaker 3: And I will also link her. She is so down

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Speaker 3: to earth and hilarious. I'm so excited to bring you

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Speaker 3: this conversation. I hope you'll enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to diets, I've never met one. I

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Speaker 4: haven't dabbled in. From Paleo, Keito and Atkins right through

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Speaker 4: to Lemon Detox, Celebrity Slim and Skinny teas. I've been there,

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Speaker 4: done that, warn the consequences, Like I was so committed

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Speaker 4: to that diet life that I even made up my

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Speaker 4: own as I revealed way back in season two one

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Speaker 4: time I made up my own diet and this is yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is definitely not so I'll ever get published for like,

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely not going to be the next Sarah Wilson.

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Speaker 5: I put sugar.

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Speaker 4: Queens, do not, and I repeat, do not try this

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Speaker 4: at home. I fell into a dangerous trap, one that

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Speaker 4: took me literally years to find my way out of.

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Speaker 4: Despite being the healthy, happy and hungry girl that I

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Speaker 4: am today, my health and fitness journey was well, for

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Speaker 4: lack of a better word, fucked. So this week I

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Speaker 4: decided it was time for some hashtag real talk, and

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Speaker 4: I have the perfect girl to call on this week.

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Speaker 4: Well cheers, yes, cheers to making it through the week.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's been a big one.

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Speaker 4: And even though this is Champagne and this episode will

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Speaker 4: be predominantly about health and fitness, I can almost premeditate

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Speaker 4: even though we haven't started.

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Speaker 5: The message is going to be balanced, So it's fine.

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Speaker 3: Hashtag balance always. That is my Messa Grain Juice in

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Speaker 3: the AM, Champagne in the PM.

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Speaker 5: Perfect, Perfect, what's that quote again?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, champagne is always a good idea. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: I don't even know how to introduce you Georgie Stephenson.

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Speaker 5: If you don't know who she is, do you even

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Speaker 5: have social media?

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Speaker 4: Firstly, if you don't follow her, find her at Georgie Stephenson.

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Speaker 5: But like, what is your job? How do you describe

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Speaker 5: what you do or what you are?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, let's have it. Okay, So I guess, well,

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Speaker 3: I hate like the name, but I guess I'm an influencer.

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Speaker 3: But I'm so much.

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Speaker 5: Just embrace it, guys, I swear. So I'm a fitness

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Speaker 5: and health influencer.

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Speaker 3: I have YouTube, and I have a blog and all

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing, even though I don't like to

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Speaker 5: But I guess, in the short version version, that is

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I will link all of Georgia's social shit

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Speaker 4: in the okay, in case you can't have to tell

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Speaker 4: we've had a glass of champagne by this point, all

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Speaker 4: of her social journals in what's the different called shoes,

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Speaker 4: the show notes. The show notes, I've like only just

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Speaker 4: had doing that, including her new podcast, the Rights of

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Speaker 4: Coner podcast. Yes, so if we have to listen to it, okay,

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Speaker 4: don't pause this and go and listen to it. But

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Speaker 4: you can.

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Speaker 5: Subscribe to the Rise in Concer podcast.

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Speaker 4: But seriously, do give it a listen. But like after

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Speaker 4: my episode, so.

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Speaker 5: We met on Instagram. We're Instagram friends. Ye, we're Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Friends and now we're Irl friends exactly. So today we're

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Speaker 4: going to talk about health and fitness. Yes, we can

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Speaker 4: digress a little bit, but I want to kind of

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Speaker 4: start because I what I love the most about you

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Speaker 4: is that you are honest and you are completely authentic

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Speaker 4: in how do you deliver your message. I think one

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Speaker 4: And I think when a lot of people look at

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Speaker 4: known for a while, they see the endgame, which is,

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Speaker 5: But it is not easy to get there. So we're

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Speaker 5: going to go back to the very start. Are we

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Speaker 5: going to talk about our journeys? I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Make yourselves comfy, squad, because damn we can talk.

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Speaker 5: Let's go. So, firstly, were you brought up to be

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Speaker 3: So I one hundred percent was. My mum was like

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Speaker 5: She was like the ogi who made like unrefined sugar.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, so I grew up on that, and I

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Speaker 4: I get it, dull. A girl's got to eat, and

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Speaker 3: So I grew up like that, and I'm so now

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Speaker 5: So it sort of set me up.

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Speaker 3: But in saying that, I then turned, you know, eighteen,

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Speaker 5: The freshman fifteen is so real.

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Speaker 3: It's so real, and it's so weird because I had

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Speaker 5: Have a big appetite. I love food. I grew up

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Speaker 3: I had like our meal sizes were the same, and

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Speaker 4: Eat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, girls gotta eat.

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Speaker 4: Oh my God, if I had a dollar for the

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Speaker 4: amount of times we've already said girls got to eat,

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Speaker 4: I'd have a lot of dollars.

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Speaker 3: But when you're not eating the most healthier stuff, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So in saying that, I feel like, you know, this

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Speaker 4: So different, like so different, so different. I was actually

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Speaker 5: Okay, my mum was very healthy with us.

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Speaker 4: She would terrible cook, which is where I get it from,

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Speaker 4: morning Echinasia drops. She'd make us salads every day. She'd

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Speaker 4: Never, we wouln't even love poppers.

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Speaker 4: But then on the other spectrum, I was also a

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Speaker 4: But then when I went to my dad's house, he

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Speaker 5: Did you ever have devon like lunch and meat?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my mom.

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Speaker 4: And so then when I turned eighteen, I got into

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Speaker 3: I'd get half a kilo of honey, honey macadamias.

442
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 5: We're just like yo.

443
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so like I remember, I didn't cat calories

444
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: at stage, but I remember putting it in like my

445
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: fitness palette one stage later on, and it's like almost

446
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 3: eight hundred calories. And I would eat that, I'd eat

447
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: Nandro's and I'd eat a whole block off like dairy milk,

448
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: like cookies and cream sort of yeah, chocolate, yeah, And

449
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: so I'd eat that and then I think that is

450
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: normal and I was like, yeah, no, but I ate

451
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: so good a week so I forgot it's like four

452
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: thousand calories.

453
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Speaker 4: We've all been there. My body is the temple Monday

454
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 4: to Friday, and my body is a trash can Saturday

455
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: to Sunday.

456
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: Anyway, and then so Sunday I couldn't and then so

457
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: it'd be the next day and I would binge agen.

458
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: You could never sort of ease up, and then Sunday

459
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: night maybe a little bit, and then Monday came around

460
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: and it was back.

461
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 5: All the restriction. Yeah.

462
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 3: So that was my hectic sort of lifestyle. And then

463
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: I just got all these health issues. And also I

464
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: was eating under a thousand calories and I was somehow

465
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: putting on weight. So basically it just got to this

466
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: point where I would be crying all the time because

467
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: I was like and also I was on social media,

468
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 3: so I had girls expecting this fit body, these ads

469
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: like I remember I used to get commons being like

470
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: where are your AP's gone? And like stuff, and I

471
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: was like, actually, right, now I was under eating, I

472
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: was overtraining, and so you could just imagine how confused

473
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 3: I felt. And I feel like so many girls would

474
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: go through this where you're just like, what is happening.

475
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm doing all the right things, I'm so confused, I'm

476
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: so stressed. And anyway, I end up seeing a natural

477
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: path and a PT who both told me, you need

478
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: chilli fuck up, and so I did.

479
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 5: It must have been a breath of fresher, oh.

480
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: To be saying like in saying that, it was a

481
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: little bit hard because I'm a very type a person,

482
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: and so to me that was like you're weak, you

483
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: can't handle it.

484
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 5: And I was like I can.

485
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: I know I can do yeah, like I can do

486
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: all this, but my body And so that was probably

487
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: a good two years of that sort of hectic lifestyle,

488
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 3: and my body just gave in, like it was just

489
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: like not anymore. And it just completely gave me all

490
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 3: these health issues, which in saying that, when people told

491
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 3: me it was because I wasn't eating enough and overtraining,

492
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: I didn't believe them and I looked for all these

493
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: other health issues, like I must have an order.

494
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 6: Immune disease, and like test me for everything like test

495
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 6: me going on exactly In saying that though, like now

496
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 6: looking back, as soon as I increase my food, as

497
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 6: soon as I stopped the card and I started strength training.

498
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 5: All my health issues lef went away.

499
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, how crazy.

500
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: Literally, so I'm thinking, you're almost in a big way

501
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 4: wake up call.

502
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: I had to realize for yourself. I was very I.

503
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: Was in this tunnel and I really did. And even

504
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 3: through the process when I had my PTA of nutcrack

505
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: being like, hey, you need to eat more and stop

506
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: doing it. I remember and I've told the story before

507
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: that like with my PT. So she subscribed me like

508
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: three days of strength and two days cardio that is,

509
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: eat no more.

510
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 5: And then like she caught me one day like.

511
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: Doing cardio when I like like in the gymmy had

512
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: already done, like ah my, and she was like, what

513
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: are you doing? And I was like in my head,

514
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this is like a problem, this

515
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: is a new low. I need to not try and

516
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: sneaking cardio exactly. But the good news about hitting a

517
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: new low is realizing the only place you can go

518
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: is up. And so I was really resistance again it

519
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 3: for so long and I had to literally retrain my

520
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: whole brain, retrain myself, and I had to refocus as

521
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 3: well to get through it.

522
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 5: And it was like I didn't realize it, but once

523
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 5: I did, like light pop moments.

524
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like, looking back, I just cannot believe what

525
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: I put my body into for so long and then

526
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: it held up for that long. Oh, I'm surprised it

527
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: held up. Yeah, about it did.

528
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: It's very refreshing though to hear you saying that stuff,

529
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 4: because mine was very, very similar. My first job out

530
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 4: of UNI was at a magazine, so I was a

531
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 4: very unhappy lifestyle where it was like champagne every night,

532
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: let's just have Oh, we'll just have an Aaron Trainey

533
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: ball for dinner and that'll be fine, and.

534
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah.

535
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, not eating very well, not eating a lot got

536
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 4: into And this is something I've never said before ever,

537
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 4: except to.

538
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 5: Obviously the very close people around me.

539
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Batton down your proverbial hatches, dolls, because I'm about

540
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: to drop a very serious truth bomb. But I feel

541
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: like it's important. I can't important conversation but of a

542
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: trigger warning. I was diagnosed with an eating disorder at

543
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: the time, but at that time I also discovered fitness

544
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: and how good group fitness classes made me feel was

545
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: struggling to get through.

546
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 5: And I asked what you were diagnosed with? You can ballimia.

547
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's not even a glamorous one and there's

548
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: a lot of shame that comes with that stuff.

549
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 5: But I feel I until you this is that I've

550
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 5: been wanting to talk about it for a long time. Yeah,

551
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 5: but I never have.

552
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: I'll tell you mne after there we go. First time

553
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: I haven't told anyone as well.

554
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 4: My god, there's a lot of truth bombs happening around

555
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: here now in the bar up and the bonds, but

556
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: important conversations to have. I know that some of you

557
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: guys think I'm just to ditch with a podcast, but

558
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 4: this is my opportunity to actually turn my mess into

559
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: my message. So I had discovered body attack at my

560
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: local gym and I was really enjoying it and that

561
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: was kind of the one thing that was getting me through.

562
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 5: And I found it's a very intensive class.

563
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: On your body and if you're not eating enough, you

564
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: can't make it through a class. And I got quite good.

565
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: I progressed from the back roach to the front row

566
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: and they were like, hey, you should become an instructor,

567
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, Like I was hating my

568
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: job at the time, and I wanted to do something

569
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 4: a little bit different, so signed off for my instructor training.

570
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: At the time, I was eating no carbs. I wouldn't

571
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: even eat a banana, like I was completely My.

572
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: Breakfast was a trigger.

573
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: I'm not even going to say what I ate because

574
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 4: I don't want anyone to emulate that because it's not good.

575
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: I remember going to this two day training, so it

576
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: was eight hours on Saturday, eight hours on Sunday, purely physical,

577
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 4: so you would have been burning I cannot even imagine

578
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: how many calories per day. And I rolled in with

579
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: a banana, a tin of tuna and something else. I

580
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: nearly fainted, like and I don't even know how I

581
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 4: passed that part.

582
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 5: Of the course, but somehow I did. Anyway.

583
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: The next part is you get a mentor for I

584
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: think four or five months and they kind of you

585
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: team teach with them or whatever.

586
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: And they were like, you're just you're very skinny and

587
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 5: you're not very strong.

588
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: I couldn't do push ups on my toes and I

589
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: was like, well, if you're teaching these people, you have

590
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: to be the perfect role model, and it kind of

591
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: woke me up a lot. So then I got a

592
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: lot of health issues, and I think that's what kind

593
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: of woke me up in the end. I got shingles,

594
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: which is something old people get when your body is

595
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: so broken and so weak. I got a lung infection,

596
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: which is very gnarly. And there was something else I

597
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: can't remember what The third thing was. Your body was

598
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: just not loving me.

599
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 5: I had h pylori.

600
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: So that's a bacteria that grows into your stomach, which

601
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: is what causes stomach holsas So I had all of

602
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: this whole shit going on. And anyway, eventually my mum

603
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: dragged me against my will to see a psychologist and

604
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: slowly about surely it all came together and I think,

605
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: I honestly, oh it. I think to fitness because it

606
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: made me feel so good. I'm so happy that for

607
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: the first time, you've become present and you realize that

608
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: you're doing exercise and eating well to not punish your body,

609
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: but to feel good.

610
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

611
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so fitness actually got you. It was like a

612
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: positive on a negative. It can be a negative. For me,

613
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: it was very I used to overtrain and really kill

614
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: my body.

615
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: I love that. Yeah, Okay, fitness saved me. I love

616
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 5: that plot twist.

617
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, what can I say? Fitness is my religion.

618
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: And so after that, did you get better? Like how

619
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: did you sort of it?

620
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 5: I did.

621
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Speaker 4: It's it's a slow recovery, and I think it's just

622
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: a mentality unfortunately that I think you will have for

623
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: the rest of your life. But once your brain starts

624
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: and I guess it's that's the thing you have to remember.

625
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: It's Yeah, it's a long recovery and it's a I

626
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: think it's a challenge all the time. Yeah, but you

627
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: start to realize, like, and I still to this day,

628
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: I know how restrictive I've been. Even up until last year,

629
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: I wasn't eating carbs. Yeah, because I found.

630
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 5: The Keno diet.

631
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: When the Keeno diet was cool, and I was like,

632
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: oh my god, and I was going through a breakup

633
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: at the time, and I was like, oh my god,

634
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: revenge body with the Keto and it worked and I

635
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 4: got addicted to it.

636
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 5: But you just need to.

637
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 3: Let go, yeah and find that balance. Yeah one hundred percent.

638
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: Yea. I think you and I just swing on very

639
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: dramatic pendulums. Okay, now it's your to drop a truth bomb.

640
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: Still to this day, so I would call myself I

641
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: no longer I intuitive eat, I no longer restrict myself.

642
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 3: I love my body. I love every aspect of it,

643
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: even though I'm not as lean or skinny or anything

644
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: like that.

645
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: And that's a hard thing to come to terms with,

646
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: especially when you see old photos and you know.

647
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: And especially I found with me it was a lot

648
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: to do with my social media, and I thought that

649
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: it was so hard. Followed me for my apps and

650
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: like you know, stuff like that, and it was very hard.

651
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: But I'm very proud of how far I've come and

652
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: just how much I've realized that how you look does

653
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: not define you. And for me, that was like a

654
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: five year transformation and like now I look back, I'm like,

655
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: that was very silly. But anyway, but in saying that,

656
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: I do want to say I still now fight the

657
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: feelings to restrict. So, for example, at the start of

658
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: the year, I went to this week in Sydney with

659
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: a brand that I work with, and I knew there

660
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: was to be lots of other influencers and lots of

661
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: photos and all this sort of thing, and to be honest,

662
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: I've really had to fight the urge not to diet. Yeah,

663
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: because I knew that I could diet, I could get

664
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: lean and feel really good, But then I knew that

665
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: would just set me back. And so still to this day,

666
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: even though I feel so much better, I feel so

667
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: much balance, I still very much fight the urges that

668
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of girls would just think

669
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: is normal. And I, you know, fight the urges of

670
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: restriction and comparison and all that sort of thing. So

671
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: even though you know, I say, oh I'm balanced and

672
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: I love myself and all this sort of thing, don't

673
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: get me wrong, it's a challenge, but I feel like

674
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: it's something that you just continuously work on and it

675
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: gets easier over time.

676
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: It is such an important thing to let other girls know,

677
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: because I feel like nil we talk about this stuff.

678
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: Everyone thinks they're going through it alone, and they're like,

679
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: I should have just this. You go out for dinner

680
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: and they think, oh, I should just have a salad dinner. Girlfriend,

681
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: you want the burger, Get the burger in the world.

682
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: The wise words of Queen Gigi, it did eat clean,

683
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: stay fit, and have a burger to stay sane.

684
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: That's another thing with social media is when I was

685
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: going through this confusing time of like basically it was

686
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: my hormones were so out of whack. I had a

687
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: hormone imbalance and like all this crazy shit because of

688
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: my restriction all the other Instagram influences and fitness influences,

689
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: like probably not the world, like just who I was following.

690
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: No one was talking about it. So I just thought

691
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: I was like this anonymally.

692
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 5: Kind of that's the word. Oh, my audience who listens

693
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: to this? You know, I miscorn.

694
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: Don't worry my audience who listen? No, I can't adult properly,

695
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: so or even.

696
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: I just thought I was like this one of person

697
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: who I was like, everyone else is doing exactly what

698
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm doing, and they're not getting this health issues. You

699
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: feel so alone and you feel very confused because you

700
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: think I'm being so healthy.

701
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 5: I'm doing all the right thing. Why is it.

702
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: Like and then everyone else is just looking so happy

703
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: and that sort of thing. So I think as social

704
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: media has definitely changed the last couple of years, and

705
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: everyone is so much more real and authentic, which is amazing.

706
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: I'm you know most of the time. But in saying that,

707
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: I think it's definitely girls don't realize like how much

708
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: we're all going through the same thing.

709
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: Yes, and that every day is still a bit of

710
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 5: a challenge.

711
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's okay, that's okay, it's okay, yeah, one

712
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: hundred percent, as long.

713
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: As you don't let it rule you.

714
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: Because I even remember back to when I was my skinniest,

715
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: which is what I thought would make me super happy,

716
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 4: I was probably the most unhappy I had ever been

717
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: in my life. I didn't even look good. Number one,

718
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 4: I was so skinny. I was canceling on friends birthdays

719
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: to go to the gym. I was didn't go out

720
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: to dinner because I didn't want to eat anything. I

721
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: wouldn't even go out to bars with my friends when

722
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: I was twenty three years old because alcohol had too

723
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: many calories in it. Like you're not living. You're existing,

724
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 4: but you're not living. Yeah, you're like, nah, this is

725
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: no okay. Yeah, but when you're in that moment, you

726
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 4: don't see that.

727
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 5: That's like.

728
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: I had a Facebook memory pop up, and it was

729
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: a family vacation that I took with Tim and my

730
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: side of the family, and we went two stride Broke

731
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: for Easter and the photo popped up and it's of me,

732
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: and I literally have like an eight pag. I look amazing.

733
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 3: But it's so funny because I don't actually remember much

734
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: of the holiday with my family, but I remember I

735
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: was waking up early and going for runs. I remember

736
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: it was Easter time and I wasn't eating any chocolate,

737
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: and I remember wanting to eat chocolate, and that's like

738
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: all I could think about. Yeah, and it's so crazy

739
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: because now looking back, I just spent so much of

740
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: my time and energy thinking about food and thinking about

741
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: the way I looked that I would have missed so

742
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: many important movements, which it kills me now in saying that.

743
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm still like, you know, it's all good, I'm progressing,

744
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: but I just missed so much of life because I

745
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: wanted to, you know, weigh five kilos lighter. And that's crazy.

746
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: You know, remember, girls don't miss out on fifty percent

747
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: of your life to weigh five percent.

748
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 5: List.

749
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: Someone said me me the other day and it was

750
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: so good. It said you were born to do more

751
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: than pay bills and lose weight.

752
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: I was like, yes, well, it's funny.

753
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: To say that because I've realized so this year is

754
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: the first year since I can remember that I didn't

755
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: make a New Year's resolution about my appearance.

756
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 5: Oh that's big. That is big.

757
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: And it's funny because I didn't realize until I had

758
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: ridden my goals and me and mel who she works

759
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 3: with me went through them and it was an even

760
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: my vision board like last year's I remember I had

761
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: this hotgirl on it without but this year, like it

762
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: was all very like Korea and you know, about me

763
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: and Tim and all these other things, and even towards

764
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: last year, and I just thought, that is so crazy

765
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: to me that previous to that, that is all I had,

766
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: Like that was one of my biggest New Year's resolutions.

767
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: And I've also found since I have shifted that focus

768
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: from my weight and appearance, like so many bigger things

769
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: have happened, so many opportunities, and like, for example, I

770
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: think I just spent so much time and energy on

771
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: my appearance and how I looked that, don't get me wrong,

772
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 3: Like I finished my law degree and I got a

773
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: graduate position and all that sort of stuff.

774
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: But now.

775
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: Like I'm just I'm doing so much better in all

776
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: the other aspects of my life because I've realized I

777
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: have the time and energy too.

778
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 5: Because you're not seeing life through tunnel vision anymore. Yeah.

779
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: And also plots, Oh my god, yes, queen, I live

780
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: for a good plot twist.

781
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: I look the same, if not better, and I'm not

782
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: even trying.

783
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: Because guess what, girls, your body loves it when you

784
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: eat a lot and your body and comes.

785
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: And when you just listen to it and you just

786
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: go with the flow. And like, looking back, I remember

787
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: all I used to think about was literally what was

788
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: my next meal? How many calories was this? What am

789
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: I eating Friday night? That was my three main thoughts.

790
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 5: Whereas now like, obviously I'm still.

791
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: Healthy and I want to feed my body and nourish

792
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: my body, but food is not my main thought. No,

793
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: but somehow I'm the same size, I look just as

794
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: good and all that sort of thing. And I call

795
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: it like, I find it effortless to maintain this Preeviously,

796
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: if I told my old self that, I would have

797
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: laughed and been like, no, if you want to look

798
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 3: a certain way, it is difficult, and it has struggled,

799
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: but that's how it's meant to be.

800
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 4: It's not. And now I could actually truthfully say I

801
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: eat chocolate every single day, not a lot like not

802
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 4: even half a block, like in your.

803
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: Fitness journey when people are like, oh, I just have

804
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: like two pieces and then you put it back and

805
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: you were like.

806
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 4: Because the classic line girl says two pieces of dark

807
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: chocolate and a herbal tea.

808
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: And I was like, who are you kidding?

809
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: Literally, we're a lying, yeah, because back then, if I

810
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: had one piece, I would binge the whole thing.

811
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: Or you'd have to buy you sometimes i'd buy a

812
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: packet of chips. I'd have three, and then I'd throw

813
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: it in the bin, like what a waste, just because

814
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: I couldn't be around it.

815
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 5: No, you had no control.

816
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: Now it was of so much restructure, whereas now like

817
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 3: the other day, it was so funny because Tim brought

818
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: me this block of like Oreo chocolate and we had

819
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: in the fridge for like three weeks, and I was like,

820
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: I was going to post on my story like I've

821
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: actually become that person who's like I just had a

822
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: couple of squares. But I remember back then if someone

823
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: used to post that, it used to.

824
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 5: Make me angry, right, and now I'm like that person.

825
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: I know.

826
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: It's like, where is this moment where you cross this

827
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 5: the reshold?

828
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: It's so crazy, and it's thing good, so good, And

829
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: the thing is like, you did so much more, you

830
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: ate so much less, you didn't look as good. Why

831
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: would you like, why would you ever do that?

832
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: Ye?

833
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: And so that's why I'm so passionate about this message

834
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: because I'm hoping to get girls before they enter this

835
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: four year struggle exactly.

836
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, save yourself some heart ache.

837
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's fun and it's hard, hard work to

838
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: get out of it, Okay, especially.

839
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 5: Such a crucial time, and like your twenties are so fun.

840
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: Like, don't miske your parties they can be they can.

841
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: Don't miss the parties, don't miss your friend's birthdays, don't

842
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: miss having a burger when you want to have a burger.

843
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, just don't do it.

844
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: Like, there are plenty of things you should definitely not

845
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: take my advice on, but pretty please with unrefined sugar

846
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: on top. If there's one thing you take away from this,

847
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 4: it's ditched the diet's girlfriend.

848
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: And also it's such a time to like work on

849
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: your self and work on your career, like not.

850
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 4: Just your appearance, and guess what you will succeed in

851
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: every aspect of your life when your body is not

852
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: fighting to stay alive because it's so hungry.

853
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: Exactly this is.

854
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, honestly it's so simple.

855
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 3: So simple, but yet it took me like four years

856
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: to understand.

857
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 4: Yes again, girls, just trust us on this one. So

858
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: if you are big on intuitive eating, yes, big on

859
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 4: intuitive eating, and explain a little bit about what exactly

860
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: that means.

861
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 5: Because you even have an ebook about this, don't you.

862
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I do.

863
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: And intuitive eating is not a fad diet. It's not

864
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: like a keta or a paleo or anything like that.

865
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: It's an approach.

866
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's not a diet. It's not going to

867
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: tell you what food you can and cannot eat. So basically,

868
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 3: intuitive eating means eating without rules and restrictions. So it's

869
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: eating by listening to your biofeedback. So that's your signals

870
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: that your body gives you and cues that it gives

871
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: you throughout the day. So also intuitive eating is ignoring

872
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: outside stuff like fitness influences telling you not to any

873
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: certain foods and also an app telling you how many

874
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: calories you should eat dangerous territory. Yeah, and so it's

875
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: it's not listening to that because like, if you think

876
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: about about it, like back in the day, like we

877
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: didn't have an app calculator or anything like that. I

878
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: know times have changed, but I just think your weight

879
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: and your health and how you look it is it

880
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: can be simple, and I think we need to strip

881
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: it back.

882
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: Unless you're doing something like a bikini comp us something,

883
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 4: we have a very specific amount of tract whatever.

884
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 5: That'srogative, and that is the sport.

885
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's fine, but that people need to realize

886
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: that that is not an everyday thing. And so basically

887
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: also it's about being connected to your body. So something

888
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: that you would have gone through too with restriction is

889
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: you restrict so much and the reason why you binge

890
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: is because your body thinks it's in starvation mode. So

891
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: then you miss things like you miss being like the

892
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: cues of being full, you miss the cues of being hungry,

893
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: all these things. And then so for so long, for

894
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: four years, I was so disconnected in my body. So

895
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: for example, when a six week challenge would finish, I

896
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 3: wouldn't even know how to feed or nourish my body

897
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: because I had ignored it for so long. And it

898
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: doesn't just.

899
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: Happen, and what centers about those things I find I

900
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: did an a week challenge last year, and it's almost

901
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 4: like you go through this eight week period and you're

902
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 4: so hungry, you're not eating things that you'd normally be eating,

903
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: and you really struggle and you're like, it's only for

904
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: eight weeks. It's only for eight weeks. But then you

905
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: do become so disconnected and you almost are rewarded for being.

906
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: Hungry because you're like, well, if I'm hungry, I must

907
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 5: be losing weights.

908
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: But it's not maintainable because when the eight weeks is over,

909
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: what's going to happen If you listen to your body

910
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: and you start eating when your body's telling you that

911
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: you're hungry, Yeah, you're going to gain back anything you

912
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: lost because you probably didn't need to lose it in

913
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 4: the first place.

914
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: But also I found any time that I would do

915
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: anything like that, I would gain it back plus more

916
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: because your body thinks it's about to go back in

917
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: a starvation mode so it stores it, which is like,

918
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: oh my god, girls, stop dieting. So basically intuitive eating

919
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: it's not a bad thing. It's an approach. And that's

920
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: the thing is, you know, like with diets, it's like

921
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: you must do this, and you must do that intuitive

922
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: eating is very much it's getting back that connection with

923
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: your body, getting in tune with your body. And everyone

924
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: is so different and that's why I love it, because

925
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: it's it's not a one size fits all and you

926
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 3: also have to do a lot of inner work, which

927
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: I think if you are someone who constantly goes.

928
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 5: On diets, you do need to do that.

929
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, yeah, it's that approach and

930
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: it's just a way of living. So for example, now

931
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: I don't way my food. I don't count calories, I

932
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: do any I don't do anything like that. I eat

933
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 3: when I want to eat what I want to eat.

934
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 3: And somehow, I like my body has just evened out.

935
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: I eat so much more food, I.

936
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: Train less, and my body has evened out and it

937
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: just loves me because I'm loving it.

938
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes sense.

939
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: So in summary, stop dieting and start living. If you

940
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: wake up, say, for example, I guess when you're in

941
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: a big restriction mentality and you plan out exactly what

942
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: you're going to eat for every single meal in an

943
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 4: entire week, you probably mean nothing a meal prep.

944
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 5: But I still meal prep.

945
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: But like you meal prep, you you know, But do

946
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: you just wake up now and think, oh, I feel

947
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 4: like oats for breakfast or I feel like a smoothie

948
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: for breakfast, and you literally just listen to yeah see.

949
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is you can't get too caught

950
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: up in the because I know, obviously people have jobs

951
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: and people like I have.

952
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 5: A job, but guys people us, Yeah, you're sitting here.

953
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: But and that's the thing is, I guess people they're like, oh,

954
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: but you know, I do have to plan, and it's

955
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: okay to do that. It's just about when you were

956
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: connected to your body, you know when you should stop eating,

957
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: when you should start eating. Like I used to eat

958
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 3: exactly like six am twelve pm, and it wouldn't even

959
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: have to have my snash at ten thirty and three thirty,

960
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: and I know exactly what it's going to be exactly.

961
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: And so it's about Also, I realized when I let

962
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: go control and I sort of just went with my body,

963
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: it does take time, but it shows you exactly what

964
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: you should be eating, and what time you should be eating,

965
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: and what it wants and so so many things. So I,

966
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: because of my restrictive and just like crazy controlling eating,

967
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: I became intolerant to like bananas and eggs and like

968
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 3: all these foods I couldn't tolerate basically anything. But when

969
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: I and it's because I was like, no, I have

970
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: to have protein at breakfast and I have to like

971
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: you know, like all this crazy stuff. And as soon

972
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: as I let go of control, and it's like I

973
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: told my body, I was like, hey, look you do it.

974
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 5: You do your thing, you do you boom.

975
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, and you let go control and you're like,

976
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: it's not a big deal. If I, you know, I

977
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: don't have an egg with breakfast, it's all good. And

978
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: it's about letting go of that control and it's about compassion.

979
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: So for example, if you told me back then that,

980
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: you know, I would eat a piece of chocolate at

981
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: night on a weekday which was not.

982
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 5: Allowed, that was that.

983
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 3: I would just be like, well, no, that's not happening

984
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 3: sort of thing. But you know, you eat that piece

985
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: of chocolate, and because you haven't restricted for the week before,

986
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: you don't feel the need to eat the whole blow.

987
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

988
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like this chain reaction where it's

989
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: just better for you and it's better for your body,

990
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: and it doesn't control you, it doesn't real you anymore.

991
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: And it's also I think a lot to be said

992
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 4: about the kind of I guess influencers that are popular

993
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 4: at the moment. Fitness and health is very cool. It

994
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: is which it never used to be, which I think

995
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: is a good a good time.

996
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

997
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: So it really went from being like skinny model or

998
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: like skinny anorexic and skinny model, and then now it's

999
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: like everyone wants to have abs and it's like.

1000
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: And guess what, girls, you can't have abs unless you

1001
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 4: eat a lot of food. Yes, Like that's how you

1002
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: get into that is the secret, honestly.

1003
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: And also some people are like they're just not meant

1004
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: to have abs, like we're all so different, and that's

1005
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: something like personally, it took me so long, so long

1006
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: to come with terms that I wasn't meant to have

1007
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: stick thin legs I have, Like, oh my god, I'm

1008
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 3: like I all I wanted was like model thin legs,

1009
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: and I thought, if I died enough, if I lose enough,

1010
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: I will have stick legs. Not gonna happen, like I

1011
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 3: have cars like a shot put up.

1012
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: Mistrudgeful.

1013
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: Literally, my legs are always our biggest of security too,

1014
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: because I think because I grew up a dancer.

1015
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 5: They're just they're not stocky, but they're muscular. They've got shame, girl.

1016
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 4: My calves aren't even calves, they're cows. But you know what,

1017
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: because of them, I can tuck jump and pliometric lunch

1018
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 4: jump like a goddamn boss.

1019
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: But the thing is, no matter how skinny you get, like,

1020
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: that's not going to change. And so it's kind of

1021
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: realizing you have to work with your body instead of

1022
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 3: against it. And so like, for example, a big little

1023
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: milestone with my journey is like the other day, I

1024
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: was looking in the mirror and I've like I said,

1025
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: I always hated my last legs. It was my biggest insecurities.

1026
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: And I looked at my legs.

1027
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 5: And I was like, I love my legs.

1028
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: Yes, they are so strong, like I am so athletic,

1029
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 3: and I'm like, they look good even though they're not sticky.

1030
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 5: And I've literally that, Oh my god. It was the

1031
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 5: biggest moment.

1032
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: I'd probably people probably think I'm a bit silly, but

1033
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: that was a big and because I've always had a

1034
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: very lean up body.

1035
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: So like any photo you'll see like back in the day, it.

1036
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, just cut off my legs like anissa,

1037
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: I'm just the doors actually because my body always looks

1038
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 3: like I'm like God, like I don't mind my calves

1039
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 3: like that, like and getting to that point and realizing

1040
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 3: that we don't have to look like one person, how

1041
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: boring would life be?

1042
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: And I think you also have to realize why do

1043
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 4: I want apps?

1044
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 5: Is it for validation? Is it so I can post

1045
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 5: off it on Instagram? For lights?

1046
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 4: Is it so this boy will like me? Is it

1047
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 4: so that I can I don't know, get a better job.

1048
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, like, like what other apps going to

1049
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 4: give you?

1050
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 5: And where else can you find that?

1051
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 4: Because exactly, honestly, yeah, having abs is amazing, but it's

1052
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 4: not going to make you happy.

1053
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: Well that's the biggest thing in my sort of recovery

1054
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: was changing my changing my goals, I guess. So for example,

1055
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: I started strength training, so instead of focusing on the scangle,

1056
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: which I used to do, I started focusing on how

1057
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: much I can squat and I loved so I then

1058
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: in my whole transition of eating more food and strength

1059
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: training and doing less cardo, there was definitely a point

1060
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: where I put on a bit of weight in saying

1061
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: that it evened out and I ended up losing that

1062
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: plus more just by intuitive eating. But there was that

1063
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: point and the only thing that got me through was

1064
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: not focusing on weight and my body and focusing on

1065
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 3: strength and also focusing on other things like my career,

1066
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 3: like tim like you know.

1067
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 5: That sort of thing.

1068
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: There's more to life, and honestly, once you realize that,

1069
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 3: and also once you realize that we go through seasons,

1070
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: like not every day of your life you have to

1071
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: be focused on your appearance. You can do it for

1072
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 3: a little bit and then you know, you get into

1073
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 3: work or you get into something else.

1074
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's all right, especially.

1075
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: As a woman, like your body literally changes every day. Yes,

1076
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: I can honestly say that's probably ten days and a

1077
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 4: whole month or I'm not bloated.

1078
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's just sorry. You're a woman.

1079
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what, it's amazing because we can

1080
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: bet children, So be thankful for that exactly. Granted, my

1081
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: bloating did lend me in hospital last week, but that's

1082
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: a story for another time.

1083
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: That's actually another thing that I did through the transformation

1084
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 3: of getting to this point is I started practicing gratitude

1085
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: because when you really look at life, like it is

1086
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: such as significant, significant and surface level thing. And also

1087
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: like when you just like honestly look in the mirror

1088
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: and be like, I am so much more than how

1089
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 3: I look, and when we look in the mirror.

1090
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 5: But I.

1091
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: But I don't know, like when you realize that and

1092
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: you just realize, like and that's another thing, is like

1093
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to go off like feminism here, that's not

1094
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 3: a but anyway.

1095
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: Said yes, let's take it there. It's time to get

1096
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 4: old Jerry hollywell, girl power.

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00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 5: But like I.

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00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 3: Feel like diets were like something men made up to

1099
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 3: like preoccupy us so they could rule a world. Because

1100
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 3: I have noticed such a difference in my career in

1101
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: my earning capacity everything once I ditched the diet and

1102
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: just like that was second put that in the second place,

1103
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: and then and then like focused on other things because

1104
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 3: that's what like I know, some men are obviously into appearance,

1105
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: but they focused on other things. And I'm like, once

1106
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: I realized that, and I was like, how I look

1107
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: does not define me at all. I am so much more.

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00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 5: It was life changing.

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00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: It is life changing, and that's exactly what happened to

1110
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 4: me as well. I do work out a lot because

1111
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 4: I genuinely enjoy it. But now I think I've started

1112
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: to do it for different reasons. So for example, my edit, Yeah,

1113
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: I can honestly say that if forty five is my

1114
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: version of yoga, it keeps me grounded, scented, and one

1115
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: hundred percent present. So a few weeks ago, I did

1116
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: a tough Mona activation and I my upper body is

1117
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: so weak. I think because I was brought up to

1118
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: have these beautiful Ballerinus one arms.

1119
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 5: It was always like, don't hold any like, no tensional.

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: So I have very weak up body and I have

1121
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: to do this tough Monta activation in the city and

1122
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 4: it was it was so brutal, but I did it,

1123
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 4: and I was so proud of myself because even one

1124
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 4: year ago, there is no way.

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 5: I would have been able to do that because it's

1126
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 5: strength is such a different thing. And when you feel strong, yeah,

1127
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: it just changes anything.

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Speaker 3: You can't like, you can't full strength, No, you have

1129
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: to earn it, and that's what sucks.

1130
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 5: Good.

1131
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 3: I said that, Oh my god, that was good.

1132
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: You like, put that on a quote.

1133
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 5: Just put that in a quote. Can't so good? Did

1134
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: you hear that?

1135
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 4: Merch team? We want shirts?

1136
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: But it is and that's why it's so much better

1137
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: to focus on things like that. And so for example,

1138
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: I train at a group facility and as something that

1139
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: they do, so they do do a challenge, but they

1140
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: at the start they'll do like a fit test, so

1141
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 3: it's actually a fit test, and then you do the

1142
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 3: exact same workout six weeks later. And I love that

1143
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: because it's like looking at progression.

1144
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 5: That it's still quantifiable, but not on.

1145
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: And that's another big thing. It's like, this is what

1146
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 3: I talk about in my ebook, my Intuitive Eating ebook,

1147
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 3: is like ditching diet mentality because I feel like everyone

1148
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: just thinks it's so normal. It's so normal to always

1149
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 3: want to weigh yourself, it's so normal to eat less,

1150
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: it's so normal to work out more, and that's just

1151
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: it's all normal, and it's normal to want to be

1152
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 3: skinny and all this thing, all these things that are

1153
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: diet mentality, and it's hard to ditch it because it

1154
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: is around us so much. But once you do, and

1155
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: you're just so okay with yourself and what you're doing

1156
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 3: and what you're focused on, like it changes everything changes everything.

1157
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 5: Does guys.

1158
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: It seriously changes everything.

1159
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 5: So do you have a current health and fitness goal.

1160
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: Well, like I said with my New Year's resolution, it

1161
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: was this is the first year twenty nineteen that I

1162
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 3: didn't really make one. To be completely honest, like, even

1163
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 3: though I run a fitness and health like, I'm a

1164
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: fitness and health influencer and that will always be a

1165
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: part of me, but like, I'm just so focused on

1166
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: not bigger because I don't want to downplay things, but

1167
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm just so focused on other things because fitness and

1168
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: health ruled my life for four to five years. And

1169
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: in saying that I wouldn't change a thing because I'm

1170
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: where I am, but there are just bigger things to life.

1171
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: And in saying that I work out every single day,

1172
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 3: like you know, I'm still hashtag health. I make I

1173
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: make something bloothies. Yeah, but I just like I'm just

1174
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: not letting anything rule my life at the moment. And

1175
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 3: in a saying that like I might have it and

1176
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean I never will, but I'm just going

1177
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: through a period where no, I don't have a fitness

1178
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: goal even though even though I'm a fitness Influencer's like

1179
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: that's okay.

1180
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 5: It's completely okay.

1181
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think at the start, when you've come

1182
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 4: out of that restriction restricted restriction mentality. If you don't

1183
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: have a goal, you feel a bit lost and you're like, well,

1184
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 4: why is my alum going off at five am?

1185
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 5: And why am I doing this? Why am I doing that?

1186
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 5: But you realize it's just a lifestyle. Yeah, that's all

1187
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 5: it is.

1188
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: It's saying that, like how I work out and how

1189
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: I eat. People would probably be like, you know, that's

1190
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: like what they aspire to do and stuff like that,

1191
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: But for me, it's just habit and it's what I

1192
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: like doing. And it's not because to look a certain way.

1193
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: It's because I feel good. It's because I have clarity,

1194
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: I can do my work. I feel good. I don't

1195
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: have you know, aches and paints and all that sort

1196
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: of stuff. So I just have got to the point

1197
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: where my healthy lifestyle is habit and that's all good.

1198
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: But at the moment, I have other priorities and like,

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00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: how amazing is that?

1200
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: That is so cool?

1201
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: It is honestly so cool your life.

1202
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1203
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: I was.

1204
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 5: I can see it in your face like that was

1205
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: like a mic drop moment. No, But because I not.

1206
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: I you knew me, like you know three years ago,

1207
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: I'm a completely different person.

1208
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: And you should look at your life and you're pouring

1209
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 4: champagne as you say that, and I'm so proud of you,

1210
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 4: because you should look at your life like.

1211
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 5: A pie chart.

1212
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: And I think back then, the biggest part of the

1213
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 4: pie chart was like eighty percent.

1214
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 5: It was like health and fitnasic and then everyone else.

1215
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: I'm got married and go to a house and all

1216
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: that stuff. But you did it crazy. Honestly, I just

1217
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: coast that shit. And now look at your pie chart.

1218
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: There's probably actual pie on it. I know.

1219
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: Bit time for different goals and different things. And that's

1220
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: the thing is like, it doesn't mean I'm not into

1221
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: fitness and health.

1222
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 5: It's just different things. And that's fine, exactly.

1223
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 4: You guys can do it too.

1224
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 5: I just whisper that I don't know.

1225
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: Honestly if we can do it, anyone can. Yeah, Like

1226
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: it feels so hard when you're in it.

1227
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: I think It's also another thing is people think if

1228
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: they don't have a fitness and health goal. And this

1229
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: is something I talk about in my earbook. It's like

1230
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: people don't want to trust their bodies because they think

1231
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: Because one of the first steps I do with intuitive

1232
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: eating is to let go of rules and restrictions. But

1233
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: people think, oh my god, if I don't have rules

1234
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 3: and restrictions, I'm just going to eat ice cream every

1235
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: single meal. And the thing is you might do that

1236
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: at the start, let's be honest. I did, but your

1237
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 3: body knows better, and so you need to have that

1238
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: trust in yourself and your body, Like you're not going

1239
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: to not have a goal in all of suddenly this

1240
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: like lazy person. It doesn't work out and eat like

1241
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: you will realize the difference and you will make the

1242
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: right choices and.

1243
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 5: You think back.

1244
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: I always think about when I think about intuitive eating

1245
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: and when you're listening to what your body tells you

1246
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 4: what it needs. I always think back, for some reason

1247
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 4: to school camp in grade eleven when we just went,

1248
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: hem me and my friends. Your parents buy you, like

1249
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 4: all the lollies and everything to take on school camp,

1250
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 4: and you're not fed the greatest amount of the greatest

1251
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: quality of food.

1252
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 5: So there's not a lot of fresh food going around.

1253
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: It's just like and you come home up to three

1254
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 4: days of surviving on that and you're like, I just

1255
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: want vegetables.

1256
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just need vegetables. Yeah, And that's pre your

1257
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 5: mind telling me, I.

1258
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: Can only event I can only do that, So that's

1259
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 4: what it feels like. So if you feel like you're

1260
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 4: going to go off the rails and eat whatever, just

1261
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 4: shit for two days, that's fine, but your body won't

1262
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 4: annoy you to do that. For me very lotly and

1263
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: two days is not going to And also, like.

1264
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: I do want to sort of preface that with like,

1265
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: I think you do need to have some sort of

1266
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: understanding of nutrition and nourishing your body, because you know

1267
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: it is hard if you don't. But insaying in this

1268
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: day and age where I feel like that sort of

1269
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: information is very widely held. But in saying that, I

1270
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 3: also want to say I am going off the rent here,

1271
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: but anything you see on social media, like even mine account,

1272
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: but like any influencer, anything you see like take it

1273
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: with a grain of salt and just be like, you know, hey,

1274
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: they're fasting, they're doing keto, that's all good. Try it

1275
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 3: out if it feels good. Include how you can. But

1276
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 3: you are so different and what works for you is

1277
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: going to be completely different to someone else. And if

1278
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: you don't find that out now, you were going to

1279
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: be trying for the rest of your life.

1280
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 5: So you most all start now.

1281
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: You've got it, Like you've got to do it up

1282
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: right now. Yes, so you got to do it at

1283
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: one point, so like you start now and it's like not.

1284
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: I guess that's another thing is like I feel like

1285
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: intuitive eating. When I say it to people, they're just

1286
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: like what because it's not me going, hey, eat this

1287
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: for breakfast, eat this for lunch. You actually have to

1288
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: do a lot of like inner work, which is not sexy.

1289
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 5: It's hard to promote that on Instagram. Trust me, but

1290
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 5: trust me.

1291
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is once you do the work,

1292
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: you're set for life and you can just go on

1293
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: and you won't be phased by people doing diets and

1294
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 3: all this stuff, and like you'll get to that position

1295
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: like I am now where it just feels effortless to

1296
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: maintain a healthy weight, to feel good the whole eighty

1297
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: two any like indulge, but like we said, like it's

1298
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: not you're not going to over over indulge when you

1299
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: get to that point. Exactly your body went late. No

1300
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: trust absolution.

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01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: Trust in this instance, trust your body even if your

1302
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 4: brain is telling you otherwise.

1303
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's it. So the most important part.

1304
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: Wait, hen I want to quickly ask do you have

1305
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 3: any fitness goals?

1306
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 4: Oh? My only finness goal right now is to actually

1307
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: complete tough matter.

1308
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 5: So that's in me. So I'm doing the full course.

1309
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 5: But should I do it with you? Do it with me?

1310
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah? Sixteen commits, but it's all like a run. It's

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Speaker 4: like a sixteen comment obstacle course. I used to run

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Speaker 4: fifteen k's every Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Well, there you go. I can't run it all, so

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Speaker 5: I'll be crawling back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, it's a That's an amazing goal because it's

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Speaker 3: like in a team, and it's like, it's not I

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Speaker 3: want to lose.

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Speaker 4: Fine, No, it's absolutely not. If any love, I probably

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Speaker 4: should put on some weight to do this because.

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Speaker 5: It's like strength muscle, you know. Yeah, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: sule for that muscle. I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, and again I think that's the very first time

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Speaker 4: I've ever had a non weight based goal.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 5: Does it feel good? It does? It feels feel so good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean I hope it feels as good when I'm

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Speaker 4: ten kilometers in. But whatever, what doesn't challenge you won't

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Speaker 4: change you, right, Hey.

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Speaker 5: What is your PM? Stop with the little pause it's

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Speaker 5: so cute.

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Speaker 4: You stay here, you guys. Georgie's dogs are trying to

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Speaker 4: tell you something. Did you hear that? Yeah, they said

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Speaker 4: ditch the diets. So to finish up, what is one

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Speaker 4: piece of advice you would give to all twenty somethings?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would definitely say, like, stop going again your

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Speaker 3: body and stop focusing on your appearance so much. And

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Speaker 3: also last piece of advice is less food and more exercise.

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Speaker 5: Is not the ads?

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Speaker 3: Like I just thought that was the answer to everything

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Speaker 3: and it's really not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, creat girl.

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