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Speaker 1: I don't entertainment, put on your dance and shit, don't

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Speaker 1: give me your best shut from the David oz M Billespie.

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Speaker 1: I know your devo that you miss Larry M because

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Speaker 1: you're a huge fan. Unfortunately, Larry, who's filling in for

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Speaker 1: Amanda who's on assignment in Africa, had to leave. He's

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Speaker 1: got to do his TV he's got to do a

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Speaker 1: TV show.

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Speaker 2: And here I am, Emma Gillespie filling in for Larry

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Speaker 2: M to filling in for Amanda Keller, and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: be more honored. It's a true joy. And I wanted

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Speaker 2: to talk to you today about another icon, Vince Vaughan.

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Speaker 2: Love Vince Vaughan. He's got a new show coming out

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Speaker 2: actually to Apple TV Plus called Bad Monkey. But he's

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Speaker 2: done a few interviews where he's spoken about the fact

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Speaker 2: that he reckons Hollywood executives are overthinking it and not

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Speaker 2: wanting to take risks anymore on our rated comedies because

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Speaker 2: they're scared of losing their job. He did an interview

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Speaker 2: on the YouTube channel Hot Ones. It's like they eat

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Speaker 2: hot chicken wings with lots of hot sauce and against

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Speaker 2: spicy or and spicier. He absolutely nailed at the Man

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Speaker 2: loves Hot Sauce. But this is what you had to

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Speaker 2: say about comedies.

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Speaker 3: People in charge don't want to get fired more so

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Speaker 3: than they're looking to do something great. So they want

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Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, follow a set of rules

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Speaker 3: that somehow like gets set in stone that don't really translate.

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Speaker 3: But as long as they follow them, they're not going

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Speaker 3: to lose their job. People want to laugh, people want

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Speaker 3: to look at stuff that feels a little bit like

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Speaker 3: it's you know, dangerous or pushing the envelope.

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Speaker 2: So he's basically suggesting that the executives are overthinking it

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Speaker 2: because they've subscribed to this fundamentally flawed formula that movies

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Speaker 2: have to be made off the back of a pre

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Speaker 2: existing character or pre existing ip. So we see this

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Speaker 2: with Marvel superhero movies, you know, your lego movies, Barbie movie.

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Speaker 2: He gave an example of the Battleship movie in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: like a movie made off a board game, and that

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Speaker 2: essentially like, you know, we're all so stuck in that

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Speaker 2: formula that no one wants to take risks on great

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Speaker 2: comedy anymore.

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Speaker 1: And you look at the wedding crashes. Yes, that movie

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Speaker 1: I watched that time and time again and it makes

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Speaker 1: me laugh. But Vince always has the same sort of trope,

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Speaker 1: doesn't he. It starts off as the dry, sarcastic sort

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Speaker 1: of hero, then he lets the team down, and then.

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Speaker 2: He gets and then he emerges with heart and he gets.

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Speaker 1: His retribution was the same thing. It was all that.

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Speaker 1: But having said that, I'm a huge fan of him.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather him in a comedic role, and I've seen

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Speaker 1: him in serious stuff because there's a real malevolence to

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Speaker 1: him as well. And it brings that because he's in

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Speaker 1: Psycho a.

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Speaker 2: True detective second season and he is actually a good

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Speaker 2: serious actor, better than I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: were expected.

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Speaker 1: You ever see him in the Breakup?

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Speaker 2: That one with Breakup is one of my favorite movies.

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Speaker 2: My mum loves that movie.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to go too much on the

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Speaker 1: spoiler alert, but the end of it, yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: you know somebody that I used to know. That that

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Speaker 1: just the end of that movie, just when they see

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Speaker 1: each other after all they've been through and they go, hey,

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Speaker 1: how you being and you don't know if they're back together?

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's your life.

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Speaker 2: Well it's the kind of journey of exploring these characters

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Speaker 2: and perspectives that he sort of speaks about through in

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Speaker 2: these inter You did another one with The New York

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Speaker 2: Times where he said that you know that the comedians

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Speaker 2: feel things out on the set, they change the lines,

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Speaker 2: they make each other laugh, that you know it's about

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Speaker 2: studios taking risks on young creators, and that now we've

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Speaker 2: got these big committees of people making decisions, micromanaging. And

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Speaker 2: he said that, you know, people want to take the

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Speaker 2: book off the shelf and they should be allowed to

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Speaker 2: choose what they read. And part of the journey is

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Speaker 2: exploring those things. And now we've gone too far towards

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Speaker 2: one person deciding they want to be the judge and jury.

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Speaker 2: He gave the example of the Breakfast Club. You know

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Speaker 2: that there's all these characters that transform and by the

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Speaker 2: end you realize everyone is a complete human being. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a really interesting perspective. I sort of thought when

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Speaker 2: I saw the headlines, oh, you know, he's going to

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Speaker 2: come out and say, oh, it's wokeness gone mad, there's

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Speaker 2: no creativity anymore because it's two PC. But really he's

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Speaker 2: sort of saying that everyone is so money obsessed that

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Speaker 2: Hollywood is just so about the box office dollar of the.

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Speaker 1: Marvel mood and the pie. The pie is getting smaller. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone talking, you know TV. At the moment, one's talking

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Speaker 1: about TV. But the problem is this TV. He's got

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Speaker 1: too many, too much competition. It's like cabs when cabs

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Speaker 1: rule the earth. Yeah, and they were just sitting high

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Speaker 1: on the hog and the neuber came along and they went,

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Speaker 1: hang on a minute. Yeah, that's what happens radio. We

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Speaker 1: went through this a long time ago. TV is going

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Speaker 1: what radio went through, probably about twenty years ago. And

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Speaker 1: it's just that and that's the reality. But people are

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Speaker 1: always going to want to be entertained. But do you

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Speaker 1: need a committee to tell someone how to be entertained?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And people are always gonna want different things. You

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Speaker 2: can't just make a big homogeneous pie of Okay, one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent of movies that are made are going to

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Speaker 2: be superhero movies because that's not what one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: of the audience wants.

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Speaker 1: Although I'd like to see a movie about homogeneous pie.

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Speaker 3: Great movie.

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Speaker 1: I'll be there, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: M thank you.

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Speaker 1: Sorry you've missed down.

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Speaker 3: On your Joseph Larry.

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Speaker 2: I'll be okay in time.

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Speaker 1: I understand. We just had word in. Larry is now

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Speaker 1: entering into Red Foot Okay. He made it. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be okay.

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Speaker 2: He's crossover