1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Stinger seasons officially begun in the Northern Territory, with box 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: jellyfish likely to be in our waters until the end 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: of May. Health authorities are reminding territorians and also visit 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: us to be extra vigilant around coastal waters, particularly when 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: launching boats and other water craft. Now joining us on 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: the line to tell us more about how to make 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: sure that we can and do stay safe, it is 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Royal Darwin Hospital Professor of Medicine, Bart Curry. Good morning 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: to you. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Bart, Good morning Katie. 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Now tell me how serious can jellyfish stings be. I 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: think for most of us locals we probably understand, but 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: just explain to us how dangerous they can be. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the thing with our major box jellyfish is 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: that it is the most rapidly acting venomous creature on 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: the planet. That doesn't mean that there are lots of deaths, 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: but the thing is that when there is large contact 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: of lots of panic with particularly a child, then that 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: is a life threatening scenario. So that the last fourteen 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: deaths that have occurred in the NT and fortunately we 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: haven't had one now for fifteen years, have all been 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: in children. So the reason that things have gone well 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: I think in the last fifteen years here in the 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: territory is that people stay out of the water predominantly, 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: and particularly they keep killed children out of the water 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: during the sting of season. But it is such a 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: rapidly acting toxin that if it's a severe thing then 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: death unfortunately usually happens within ten minutes, sometimes even quicker 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: than that, and so there's very little time to get 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: someone up to the hospital or to health center if 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: it's a massive sting. And in North Queensland they've unfortunately 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: had a death last year in February twenty twenty two 33 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: in Mackay, and then the year before in twenty twenty one. 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 2: There is another death again in the child in March 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one in Bamaga in the Cape of Queensland. 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: But we haven't had a since two thousand and seven 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: in the territory. 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Even still though, it is just such a reminder 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're really vigilant around the water. 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: I mean, what do we need to like The reality 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: is it sounds as though you've sort of just got 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: to stay out of the water in some ways, but 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I know that there's people out launching boats and all 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, So look, of course people people have to 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: launch boats and sometimes their kids may be helping them 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: launch the boats. So people if they do come into 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: contact with jellyfish but they've got skin covering, then they'll 49 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: certainly have a lot of pain if their hands frends 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: and saw their feet gets done. But the main thing 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: is to have long sleeved shirts on or stinger suits 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: is what people wear if you know in other parts 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: of Australia, and long trousers potentially, and so you can 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: be vigilant by of course looking around the boat launching 55 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: places and everything. But these jellyfish that we have can 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: be virtually invisible cliff if the water is slightly murky. 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: So we basically say to people if they if they 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: are launching boats and they're doing things like that, then 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: preferably just have the adults doing that and having contact 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: with the water. That's the seawater we're talking about, and 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: we advise them to be wearing clothing that would protect 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: a large area of contact if there are jellyfish around, 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: so they may be stung, but they won't have a 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: life threatening sting. 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: Now, doctor Curry, you said that you know that if 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: you do get stung, it can be fatal within sort 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: of ten minutes. Are there different steps that you can 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: take if you are unfortunately stung and you're not able 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: to get to a hospital that quickly. 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the thing that's most important immediately is for 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: the people who are with someone who has a severe 72 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: sting to be checking airway, breathing and circulation, so standard resuscitation, 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: and there have been a number of instances in Queensland 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: in the last ten years where people bystanders have started 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: resuscitation of someone who is unconscious from a severe sting. 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: That is usually the heart being affected. So what's been 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: most important is for someone to be doing the cardiac compression. 78 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: So there are fortunately lots of the public who have 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: done first aid courses, so potentially doing CPR or cardiopulmonary 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: resuscitation on an individual with a severe sting may buy 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: a little bit of time to allow an ambulance to 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: arrive or to get someone up to hospital. But it's 83 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: such a difficult scenario when basically the heart goes into 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: a standstill with a severe with the severe things and 85 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: with less severe things and someone's conscious, then the thing 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: is to keep the person calm and then applying vinegar 87 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: is something that is still recommended because that will stop 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: further stinging from any undisc charged stinging cells that are 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: still on the tentacles adherent to the skin. So vinegar 90 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: applied and then and then basically if the person has 91 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: a severe thing, certainly still try and get them up 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: to hospital. But there are still quite a lot of 93 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: people having minus things, and people who lived in the 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: territory a long time will have, particularly if they're if 95 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: they're fishes, and that will have potentially experience or know 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: someone who's had had a minus thing on particularly a hand, 97 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: and they'll they'll certainly attest the how severe the pain is. 98 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: But that's not going to be a life threatening situation. 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, goodness mate, I mean, there is so much to 100 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: worry about in the waters of the Northern Territories and 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: there in Northern Australia. It's it's yeah, you know, if 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: it's if it's not a crocodile, it's a stinger. 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's right. 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else we should be aware of, Professor. 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: Curry, No, I think well, I think the thing is 106 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: and every year we say to locals is if they've 107 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: got friends and family visiting, or if they see someone 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: who's entering the war, who may be a tourist who 109 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: hasn't got the message, even though there are signs out 110 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: of course, and people try and put out the media 111 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: releases and everything. It's just to tell people, look, now 112 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: is the time from October the first to the end 113 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: of May. Do not end of the water particularly, don't 114 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: have kids entering the water as a general, certainly for 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: the purposes of going in for a bit of a dip. 116 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: And it is the shallows where the majority of things happen. 117 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: So a small kid in very shallow water can still 118 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: have a potentially fatal sting. 119 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, just very quickly. Like in terms of the vinegar, 120 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: do we still sort of have a situation around around 121 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the beaches where whether it is vinegar readily available or 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: is it not anymore? But in addition to that, if 123 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: you are out on a boat, I mean, and you 124 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: know you're going to maybe be be in those shallow waters, 125 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: is it something that you should sort of have nearby. 126 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Look, I think that people on boats are recommended to 127 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: take vinegar. There's not vinegar around the beaches as there 128 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: been historically in Queensland. In sort of little containers. But 129 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: I know the surf life saving teams also obviously carry 130 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: vinegar and so they're also keeping an eye on things 131 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: as well. So vinegar is around, but it's not a 132 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: generally available thing on the beaches, So another reason why 133 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: I just stay out of the water. 134 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Better to be safe than sorry, that 135 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: is for sure. Professor bart Curry, we always appreciate your time. 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having a chat with us today. 137 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Katie, Thank you. 138 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: That is Royal Darwin Hospital's well Professor of Medicine Bart 139 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Curry there, and yeah, always make sure that you take 140 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: that precaution and be well, don't even go in the water. 141 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: It would be my suggestion. I know that for those 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: of you that maybe launching boats and that kind of thing, 143 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: it's a necessity, but you've heard the advice there from 144 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Professor Curry and it is well worth taking. 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