1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Let's get into it though, because joining me on the 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: line right now is just Enter Price. She is the 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: senator for the COLP. Good morning to you. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Just inter Good morning, Katie. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: We're on our high horse about plenty of different things 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: around around the place this morning. But I tell you 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: what that vision that you've shared on your social media 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: and the message that you've got for the Prime Minister 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: around crime in Alice Springs, it's something that we all 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: need to hear. What's going on in central Australia right now. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: It just seems like absolute mayhem. And I don't know 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: if there's a correlation between the fact that alcohol is 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: just so readily available. I mean, for the first time 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: in a long time, I saw a group of group 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: of original mob walking past my house with the curtain 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: of VB and you know that used to be a 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: regular site before the restrictions came in, but now it's 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: sort of like open slaver and it's really distressing to 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: see that in the middle of the day we have 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: a situal where there's you know, a violent naked individual 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: jumping on top of a taxi and stomping in something 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: in the window. I mean, if that sort of thing 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: occurred in one of the capital cities, it would be 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: all over front pages. They'd be outrage. You know, they'd 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: be looking into who this individual was, what their background is, 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: why they've done this, you know, talking to people who 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: were witnesses. I mean, you know, kids walk out streets 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: in the middle of the day, and it is unsafe 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: even in the middle of the day when you've got 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: these sorts of things going on, and there just seems 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: to be no one. I don't believe that the police 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: media unit are actually telling us everything that's going on, 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: because I think there's a lot of issues that are 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: going under the radar that we don't know about because 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: we're hearing them, but we're hearing them from action from 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: Alice before the actual police media puts it out there. 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: So we don't know the full extent of exactly what's 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: going on, and we should know the full extent. And 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: it just feels like our police is so under resource 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: that they can't deal with the situation. 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Just Cinter. I know you've spoken there about you know, 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: about this person who is jumping on the taxi. I'd 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: also seen some vision I believe that it was You've 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: had shared it over the course of the weekend of 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: a brawl inside one of the shopping centers in Alice 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: Springs that looked like teenage girls. Was that right? 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's right. And that's not an isolated scene. 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: You can go shopping on any given day and there'll 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: be brawls or there's you know, kids running a mark 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: and trying to smash things and that sort of thing, 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: and it's just consistent, it's ongoing. They're seemed like there's 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: no sort of no sort of reprieve from it, and 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, locals are just absolutely done with it. They're 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: done with it, and it's really sad that we're seeing 55 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: longtime locals packing up and leaving because I just feel 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: like that's the only option that they're left with. 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Now. You are calling on the Prime Minister Anthony Albinezi 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: to come to Alice Springs. You've even said, you know, 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: maybe do it without the fanfare, just turn up and 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: see for yourself what it's like exactly. 61 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if he can put the effort 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: into attending to you know, places like Ukraine, you know, 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: to see what's going on the ground in terms of 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: the war that they're confronted with. While we're dealing with 65 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: day to day. It feels like a war zone in 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: some of our in our springs and some of our 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: remote communities. And yet there's no attention in his own backyard. 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: There's no way of going, well, how can we as 69 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: the federal government look at how we can support better 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: support people in these circumstances in his own country? And yeah, 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: and I would ask that it'd be done that absolutely 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: without the media, without the fanfare. You know, this is 73 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: one thing that as much as people like to bash 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: Tony Abbott on, he regularly when he was Prime Minister 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: made trips to remote communities to understand what was going 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: on on the ground without the media and without the 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: fan fare, simply because he wanted to have a better 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: understanding of how he could support those communities. Well, that's 79 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: what Albo needs to do. He needs to step up. 80 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they're banging on about this idea 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: of voice and constitutional recognition that is doing nothing for 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 2: the circumstances that we're confronted with. Write this minute now. 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: Just sint to look. There's going to be people listening 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: this morning thinking well, the territory government provides the funding 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: and provides the legislation. When it comes to the issues 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: that we've got with crime, What will a visit from 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi actually do. Why do you think it's so important? 88 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's important because I'm sure he wouldn't 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: allow it to happen. If it was directly out the 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: front of his home, he'd be outraged and he'd want 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: something to be done about it. But because it's so 92 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: far out of sight, out of mind, it just feels 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: like there's a little action. And because now this idea 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: of an intervention has got such sigma around it, Well, 95 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: now we're reversing what the intervention was intended for, which 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: is which was to ease alcohol, to try and make 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: things a little bit safer for people and communities and children. 98 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: And if we're not getting the support we need from 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: this territory government, then who else are we supposed to 100 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: go to? The schedule is the next step? I mean, 101 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm getting phone calls now from distressed form of foster 102 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: carers who have got phone calls from the mothers who 103 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: are saying our kids have been taken back off me 104 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: again because I've been locked up? Can you have the kids? 105 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: And Territory Families has removed, removed those kids some time 106 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: ago and tried to put them back, reintroduce them to 107 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: their family, and now the kids are less in limbos. 108 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: And this is again the alcohol is flowing. So what 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: are the parents interested in. They're interested in alcohol, not 110 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: the well being of their own children, who are now 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: back in a system, but not with the foster parents 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: that were providing in the care and the supports they needed. 113 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: So these kids are being retraumatized and they're going to 114 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: be They're going to be the next bunch of kids 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: on the street. 116 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: It's like, honestly, it sounds like it is a mess 117 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs at the mind. You know, I love 118 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Alice Springs. I lived there when I was younger. I 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: think it's a fantastic place. But it sounds at the 120 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: moment like the community is just on their knees, really 121 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: calling for help. However they can get it. 122 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely on their knees. And you know what, we don't 123 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: need this. We don't need a bureaucracy shoved in our 124 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: constitution to tell you what's going on right in our 125 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: communities right this minute. This government each you know, our representatives, 126 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm part of that. But everyone needs 127 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: to be needs to be saying and doing something about it. 128 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: It's like there's not enough outrage. It requires national outrage 129 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: for anything to any change to happen, and we're not 130 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: getting that because where the territory, we're out of sight, 131 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: we're out of mind, we're a final frontier. It's like 132 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: whatever goes and now we've got alcohol ruining our communities 133 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: and our people all over again. 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Well, just enterprise. The Senator for the Northern Territory, the 135 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: COLP Senator for the Northern Territory. I appreciate your time 136 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: this morning. Can you let us know whether you hear 137 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: from Anthony Albanezi? 138 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: Oh sure, will I'll let you know. 139 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Good on you. Thanks so much for your time this morning.