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Speaker 1: You're listening to Will and Woody visited bit it's will

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Speaker 1: do we mental health? Did? I? Ah? Right? So, as

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Speaker 1: I said, the benefits and the dangers of labeling or

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Speaker 1: giving a name to a mental health problem. As always,

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Speaker 1: mental health to bits are just things from my experience,

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Speaker 1: but this, in my experiences is definitely a thing. Depression, anxiety, breakdowns,

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Speaker 1: all these things are big, big, big umbrella terms. And

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Speaker 1: I think as we get to know more and more

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Speaker 1: about mental health in my experience, we're learning that there

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Speaker 1: are so many different variations of this and more importantly,

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Speaker 1: there are so many things which bring these about, right,

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Speaker 1: So you know, traditionally they'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: just you know, born with genetically, I've got depression and

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Speaker 1: maybe that's a thing. But there can be circumstances in

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Speaker 1: your life that can create depression. There might be something

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Speaker 1: physically that you're going through that can mean that you

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Speaker 1: that you become depressed or sliding the scale. Gus wall

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Speaker 1: And speaks really well about it. He refers to as

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Speaker 1: mental fitness. Yes, as a way of viewing it, it's

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Speaker 1: not like yes, it's not fit or unfit. There's a

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Speaker 1: big spectrum, right, Yeah, that's exactly right, and so in

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Speaker 1: lots of cases, it can be really helpful for somebody

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Speaker 1: who doesn't know what's going on to learn that they

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Speaker 1: have anxiety or that to learn that they have depression,

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Speaker 1: because that's a really big step in then going deeper

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Speaker 1: into the problem. But in my experience, often by if

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Speaker 1: label that as, oh, will you're depressed again, that will

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Speaker 1: often mean that I can be way more scared of

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Speaker 1: arm's length. And I think that's why. I think that's

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Speaker 1: why I have had problems with my mental health in

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Speaker 1: really struggling, and if I call that thing depression, I'm

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Speaker 1: already giving myself another I can start looking at the

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Speaker 1: barrel of knocking myself out for two or three weeks

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Speaker 1: going to be depression again, and I get really worked

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Speaker 1: up by it. And I think that this is a

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Speaker 1: really hard thing to do. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: why it takes a lot of courage for people who

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Speaker 1: do have the ability to accept what's going on in

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Speaker 1: their mind is that whatever your feeling can often be

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Speaker 1: really scary. And as I said, if you label that,

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Speaker 1: that can be useful, but that can also be really dangerous.

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Speaker 1: And more importantly, I think that's because it stops you

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Speaker 1: from actually seeing what's going on and realizing that being

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Speaker 1: scared of it is going to make it a whole

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Speaker 1: lot worse for you. So the analogy I wanted to

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Speaker 1: use this struck me the other day. You've seen the

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Speaker 1: movie Shrek. I'm sure everybody listening. It's probably the first one,

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Speaker 1: just the first one. See what the first one? You know,

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Speaker 1: the scene with the dragon, right, so they where they

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Speaker 1: go and rescue rescue Princess Fiona from the town, and

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Speaker 1: there's a drag and there right, Okay, so if you

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Speaker 1: can in that scene, they go and try and they

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Speaker 1: go on rescue Fiona, and from the start of the scene,

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Speaker 1: the dragon is this big scary thing, right, It's like

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Speaker 1: about the dragon. They're worried about the dragon. So they

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Speaker 1: get there and then they fight the dragon. They run

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Speaker 1: realizes that the dragon's actually trapped as well. The dragons

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Speaker 1: chained to the castle, and it turns out it's a

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Speaker 1: just needs a whole lot of love. That for me

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Speaker 1: is a perfect analogy for what and how I can

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Speaker 1: often treat my mind. And I'm not sure if it's

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Speaker 1: the same as other people listening. You get so scared

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Speaker 1: it that you actually might just need to turn around

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Speaker 1: actually just needs a whole lot of love. How you

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Speaker 1: go about that is probably another chat for another show,

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Speaker 1: but maybe give that a go. If the dragon the depression, yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: and you can be really scared of it, and it's

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Speaker 1: the same people, And I imagine it's the same with

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Speaker 1: don't feel anxious. And I'm worried about being anxious. But

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Speaker 1: go and maybe I find this really useful. Just like

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Speaker 1: find however you're feeling that thing in your body. For me,

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Speaker 1: it's in my gut. When I get depressed, I can

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Speaker 1: do you need? What do you need right now? What

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Speaker 1: present itself. Maybe that's just putting something down, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it's stepping away from something. Maybe it's just giving myself

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Speaker 1: a bit of a hug or asking somebody to give

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Speaker 1: me a hug rather than beating this thing up into

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Speaker 1: a big dragon and making it worse and actually not

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Speaker 1: understanding it. Yeah. Nice. I hope they help some people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really good. Thanks Mann. That's a song from Trek If

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Speaker 1: that was jarring for everyone. Hear more of the boys

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