1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Every one is listening mixed one oh four point nine. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Darwin City councilors handed down their draft budget for twenty 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: twenty one twenty twenty two, and there is a proposed 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: rate rise of two point five percent, but there is 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: also a record capital works program. Now joining me in 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: the studio to talk more about this is the Lord 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Mayor convat Scarlets. Good morning to you, com morning Katy. Now, 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: con firstly, are lots to cover off here the two 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: point five percent rate rise. What does that work out 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: for the rate payer per year? 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, it depends because we have the first survey by 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: the Surveyor General and we have the unimproved capital values 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: of the properties. And of course what we've seen some 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: people's properties have gone significantly done, other stay the same, 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: some of them went up slightly. So some muchI actually 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: less rates this year, others much a bit more. And 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: that's the way we divided, trying to divide equally across 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: the board. Two and a half percent rates if you 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: pay two thousand dollars rates a year missed twenty five 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: dollars a year. If you pay fifteen hundred dollars mass 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: thirty seven to fifty and twenty fifty dollars, it's not significant. 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Remember though, last year people do not have any pay 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: rise at all because we took into consideration the difficulties 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: and we provided relief to people that can't pay rates, 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: provided plans, for gave some rates, who forgave rates to 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: commercial tenant a dises, who provided relief to their tenant 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: So council when people needed help, it was there helping people. 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Con How much is it going to bring into the 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: council cofference? Do you have an anticipated amount? 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's going to bring about seventy three million dollars. 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: But at the same time, our total expand is about 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million dollars because of that fish 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: of the charges and services and everything that will provide. 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: And of course, as you said before, we got their 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: record infrastructure. Unfortunately, our infrastructure is aged. The kasun A 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: pool was built fifty years ago. Our building where we 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: are now, it's falling apart around our areas sixty years ago. 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: It costs so much to maintain them. That's actually cool. 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: Any commercial business who says staff. This one dumbing, than 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: build a new one because it's unviable. 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Now, I guess there will be you know, we know 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: that there's going to be increases as well to various things. 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Pool entry fees, parking and waste levy will to pay 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: for the capital works program. Hang on, I'll just go 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: through them. 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: First. 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: Fees will increase by fifty cents to one dollar for 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: single entries and two dollars fifty for a family entrance. 51 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: No increase is going to be made though to the 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: lane high which I think is a really good thing. 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: Council's curb side collections levy has increased by thirteen dollars 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: from two hundred and eighty four to two hundred and 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: ninety seven, while the annual access tag fee for the 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: Sholbey waste management facilities increased to two hundred and eighty 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: four dollars per annum. Why is there a need for 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: these service fees to go up? 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: Well, we because we have to service all these facilities. 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: Somebody has to pay for it. We can't photocopy money. 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: The increase on the on the poll, it actually takes 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: place after consideration and consultation with the users. They suggested 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: some of these increases, we were quite happy with them. 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: They were quite happy that ten cents an hour to 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: park on road. I don't think that's significant increase considering 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: how much you pay you got to other capital cities. 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: We also the increases with the rabbishes. We try actually 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: people that they use our tip and the outside of 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 2: municipality to pay the same amount of money you pay 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: for it. We think it's unfair for the rate paging 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: down to subsidize people from Palmerston or Richfield. They use 72 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: our tip, so we are going to have partity on that. 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: And another thing that actually we faced. Our tip was 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 2: established many many years ago. There were not any standards. Unfortunately, 75 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: now the environmental standards we have to comply with and 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: they are more and more and more stringent. It will 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: cost us fourteen million dollars to caps two of the 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: cells properly according today's standards. Ten years ago just dump 79 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: some soil, that was okay. Now it has to be 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: done so properly. Putting in you sell, you wouldn't believe it. 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: What we have to do to make sure we hold 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: all the liquids and everything else. So it is expensive 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: and council has to present a balanced budget by law. 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: If we don't do it, they can take to the cleaners. 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: So so much to spend so much you get in. 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: He has to be balanced well. One of the increases 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: which has concerned some is this cafe and restaurant owner, 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: is the reintroduction of outdoor dining fee. Now we know 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: that the council is planning to reinstate the fee. It's 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: seven dollars per table per week. Why are you reintroducing 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: this fee now, Katie. 92 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, when we became the council, a new 93 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: council became a mayor, it was fifteen dollars per table 94 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: per week. I half to to seven. And then when 95 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: things start getting bad with COVID nineteen everything else, I 96 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: made sure that there was no payments. It was a 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: moratorium for nearly a year and a half. Unfortunately, now 98 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: and fortunately things are really buzzing in town. We can 99 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: reintroduce but seven dollars a week. That means a dollar 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: a day per table. Every table's got full customers, Okay, 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: so even if you feel it once, that's twenty five 102 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: cents extra table. 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there is no doubt though that it will 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: have an impact on some of our businesses. We know 105 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: that some of them having an absolute bumper dry season 106 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: right now, but we're not out of the woods. You know, 107 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: there is still the potential that the wet season is 108 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: not going to be a good one. What would you 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: say to those businesses who are concerned about this reintroduction 110 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: of the. 111 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: First businesses least public space. The space belongs to all 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: rad payers now when they list their own property, their 113 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: pay render. Heaven problem with that one. Why all of 114 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: a sudden there's a problem lease public space. Do they 115 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: think it's fair for the let's say rate pairs in 116 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: Karrama and night cliffn all around Darwin to have their 117 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: rates increased because we can't charge people using public space. 118 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: So you're saying that if you didn't increase these types 119 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: of space, really fair space, somewhere to. 120 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Find the money, and where we're going to find the money. 121 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: So you're going to get another two dollars three dollars 122 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: a week increasing your age, and I don't think it's fair. 123 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: We're trying to spread the pain evenly around everywhere. 124 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: So those businesses just suck it up. 125 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: The other thing is it's a cost of running business. 126 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: They can talk to their accountant to find out how 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: can they claim it from the attacks? And my belief 128 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: is they can claim their attacks because the cost of 129 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: running business. 130 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea at this point how many 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: businesses it's going to impact. 132 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. One thing I know is when it 133 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: was fifteen dollars per table, more people will take it over. 134 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: When put the moratorium, the number of people they wanted 135 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: all fresh diminished reduced. Now coll figure. I don't know why. 136 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: What was it behind it? But now if you go 137 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: outside down and first of all you can't find a 138 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: place to park. Second, if you haven't booked a hotel, 139 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: you can sleep in the park and then get fined 140 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: for it, and everything is buzzing. I mean, if we 141 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: can pay this fee now, there must be something wrong 142 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: with that business model. 143 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: Hey, I was wondering what's the go with outside good 144 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: things at the moment. I'm not sure whether they're doing 145 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: a Renolds renovations. 146 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: Are you closed now? I think they're doing extension. 147 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Rightmant cash and so how come the tables and that 148 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: are still there if they're not opened. 149 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: Well, they rented it, I can pay for it. They're 150 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: happy to rent the pay for it. I'm happy to. 151 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: Have them there. Fair enough. I just like I went 152 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: past here and tought, I wonder what's going on here. 153 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: And we're going to change the way we do the parklets. Now. 154 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: We've seen some really good examples in the state, and 155 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: we will bring them there so we don't have really 156 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: clumsy things. We can have some very refined protecting areas 157 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: there so that we look good and they don't take 158 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: a lot of space, they don't block the view. 159 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: So conn as part of these budgets, there's no more 160 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: my Darwin vouchers. 161 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: No, because if you notice that it's doing very very well, 162 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: if by any chance, and hopefully not there's a third 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: wave of pandemic and things close down again. We have 164 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: the platform in place. The only thing we need to 165 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: know to do is shoot it on immediately. Interesting though, 166 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: I have to tell you people complaining. In the last 167 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: month and a half, we've seen a significant increase on 168 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: car parking revenue from on road parking. So people are 169 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: coming to town, people are visiting town, people coming for 170 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: their shopping and their coffee. So things are happening in 171 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: they are all. 172 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: That we con how come employee costs have increased by 173 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: six percent. 174 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: We decided not to get the contractors, especially inter state contractors, 175 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: will do all our businesses with our own stuff. We've 176 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: done that one. While it cost increased by six percent, 177 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: the money will pay to contract with significantly decreased and 178 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: that balances even. 179 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so what you're saying is that it's because we've 180 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: gone now to using all your own stuff. 181 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gone on now. 182 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: There is a significant amount of money obviously being invested 183 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: into infrastructure, as we've discussed, Some of that into the 184 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: casual and or aquatic and leisure center, some into the 185 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: investment into sports and recreation infrastructure, quite a bit to 186 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: maintain parks and green spaces as well across the municipality. 187 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: Is this all in an effort to try to employ 188 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: more locals. 189 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: There is an effort to make our city beautiful. There 190 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: is an effort to actually spend a lot of money 191 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: to the suburbs. Because yes, we spend a lot of 192 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: time and effort the CBD. I think it's time now 193 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: for people in the suburbs to see their own suburbs improved. 194 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Nine point three million dollars in our parks and reserves, 195 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: twenty eight point one million dollars in investment in sport 196 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: and recreation, two point one million dollars for better suburbs 197 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: and one point three million dollars for our three program. Now, 198 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: if you say that one hundred dollars per tree, that 199 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 2: so what means thirteen thousand new trees to go to 200 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: the ground. So all these are not happening in the 201 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: CBD is going to happen in the suburbs. This is 202 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: a budget for the suburbs, not for the CBD. We 203 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: have forgot the CBD. We still continue spending money here, 204 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: but hey, why can't we spend money in Karama or 205 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: Tivy or Nakara or Leannia. 206 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Con Just a very quick question from one of our listeners. 207 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: It says, Hikadi, could you please ask Corn if something 208 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: can be done about the intersection at Manda Road and 209 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: Stuart Highway. It's impossible to cross at peak hour and 210 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: is very dangerous. There's apparently lights proposed, however, it needs 211 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I keep clear zone painted on the road a sip 212 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: before there's some kind of fatality. 213 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for giving me the details. I'll follow it up. 214 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: Madad rode in Steer Highway. 215 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: Yes, it is, sorry very much. We'll keep it all 216 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: on that Convat Scarlets, Lord Mayor of Down, good to 217 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: catch up with you. Thanks so much for coming. 218 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: Very much, Katie, you have a good day. It's a 219 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: great budget. Yes it is a two point five percent increase, 220 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: but hey, one hundred million dollars in infrastructure that will 221 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: go to the local businesses, local workers, local jobs. And it's, 222 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: believe it or not, it's four times the capital budget 223 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: that I found when I got into the council. It 224 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: was twenty seven million dollars. Now it's nearly one hundred million. 225 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: Convat Scarlets. Will talk to you again on Tuesday. Thank 226 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: you for coming in