1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Now. The NT Police say the new Darwin Centralized Social 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Order Concept implemented on the thirtieth of October last year, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: that it's seen a marked increase in proactive policing across 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: the Greater Darwin region. It's coordinated through the Territory Safety Division. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: The centralized Social Order concept brings together all social order 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: resources across Darwin, Palmerston and Casarina under a single operational framework. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Now joining us in the studio to tell us a 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: little bit more is Senior Sergeant Josh Cunningham. Good morning 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: to you, Josh oh hang on, I've got the wrong 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: microphone up there, and then we've also got Brendan Mulder 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: and the Assistant Commissioner Good morning to you both. Morning, 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: lovely to have you in the studio and to hear 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more about this. Now, Josh, tell me 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: how does this centralized social order concept sort of change 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: the way that police operate day to day in Darwin, 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Palmerston and Casarina. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: The primary difference would be the coordination. Instead of individual 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: divisions and sections having their own social order function, we've 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: centralized under one clear area and for the purpose of 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: trying to I guess, minimized duplications in work and focusing 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: on the trends of emerging issues. 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Now, there's been quite a bit of work happened in 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: recent like since you know, since this was implemented, there's 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: been quite a bit of work happen. You've had a 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: massive amount of alcohol seats, haven't you. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, just over seven thousand liters since the thirtieth of October. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: That is wild. 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: So where has this alcohol being seats? Like around town? 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: People drinking out on. 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: The streets predominantly. Yeah, it was between dal and Palmsten 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: and Casarina, basically anywhere it's unlawful to drink it in 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: a public place. Yep, we identify and we'll seize it. 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: And so it gets seized. What happens, you know, what 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: happens next? What's the process I suppose from the police perspective. 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: At the time of engaging. Obviously those that are engaging 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: in that type of behavior will be issued a band 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: drinking order and that's to prevent them from being able 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: to purchase ACCOHL for the next twenty eight days. And 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: then if there's other offenses identified, they were issued with 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: infringement notices or they may be apprehended and arrest of 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: the time, so there's different avenues at the time. 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: I've got to say I've noticed quite a marked difference 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: in terms of particularly around the CBD not as many 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: people publicly drinking. And I know that, you know, it's 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: it's difficult to stop it entirely, but you can you 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: can see quite a difference. There's not as many people 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: out just sort of drinking and you know, sitting around 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: in parks becoming more and more intoxicated throughout the day. 49 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: Is that, like, do you find then if if you're 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: out there proactively policing that it makes a difference in 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: terms of the jobs that come in later in the 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: day as well. 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Obviously early intervention is a key point. You 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: reduce the drivers of that antisocial behavior and that ackle 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: fuel violence. We're in the fine effect which reduces crime overall. 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Now, what about with those bdos? Do you know how 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: many people are now being placed on those bdos after, 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, drinking publicly. 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: So my team and those assisting have issued just over 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: eight hn since the thirtyeth of October. 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Wow, and does that mean then that they're so they're 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: then on the band drinker register? That's right, isn't it? 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: And are they on there for a certain period of 64 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: time or can it kind of change from one person 65 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: to another. 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: So it's twenty eight days, and if we end up 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: re issuing another person that's already on a banding as regis, 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: it gets extended again by further twenty eight days. 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what kind of impact does it have from 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: a policing perspective in terms of people being on the 71 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: b doo? You know, presumably it just makes it a 72 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: bit more difficult for them to try and get their 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: hands on alcohol. I mean they shouldn't be at all, 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: but it must make it more difficult. 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's right. If they can't find a location to 76 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: guess purchase it or they don't know way to get supplited, 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: then it reduces the flow and effects. 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: And what about you know, with the proactive patrols that 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: you've been conducting, has that sort of been quite a 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: focus as well, just really getting back out there back 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: on the streets, making sure people aren't doing the wrong thing. 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's all about high visibility, proactive policing and using 83 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: that as a determ. We're very flexible with the way 84 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: we go and because of the intelligence that shared between 85 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: all the divisions, at the moment, we can proactively target 86 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: the areas that start to emerge into issues and try 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: and prevent them happening. 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: How big an impact do you think this is going 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: to have longer term or what do you think? You know, 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: people living in the top end will sort of see 91 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: as time progresses and this work continues to happen. 92 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Well, I hope that the crime reducing, the antisocial behavior reducing, 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: there's that resilience and trust back in the community and 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: we get back to the territory lifestyle and get back 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: out there. So if it continues to go the way 96 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: it is, it's going to be very proactive and promising 97 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: for us. 98 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope. So, I think everybody wants to sort 99 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: of feel safer around the place, and you know, wants 100 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: to be sure that there aren't people out there doing 101 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. Now, Assistant Commissioner M'll dude tell me 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: part of sort of the work that's happening as well 103 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: includes the's ppsos. Now, can you remind me exactly what 104 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: that stands for? 105 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: First off, police public safety officers. 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: That's right now, When do they get started and how 107 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: are things going in that space? 108 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: So our first squad of twenty four recruits will start 109 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: on the twenty third of February and they'll graduate on 110 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 3: the twenty sixth of June. 111 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: And what kind of work are they going to be doing? 112 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: So exactly the type of work Josh has just told 113 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: you about, and also specifically working on replacing the current 114 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: public Housing Safety Officers, the public transport Safety officers and 115 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: the work that they do, which they work again how 116 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: Josh explained how we've done this centralized model of taking 117 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: all the divisions and having one model. We'll be doing 118 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: exactly the same thing with the faizos and the transit 119 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: safety officers because they're operating in silos as well, So 120 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: the ppsos will take over that role and function. There'll 121 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: be a transition period before we get up to full strength, 122 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: probably a couple of years before we're fully operational and 123 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: absorbing that function in its totality. But the idea of 124 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: the ppsos is to be highly visible out there in 125 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: the public area, is public housing areas, on our bus networks, 126 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: in the entertainment precincts and really being visible and preventing 127 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: this anti social behavior before it occurs, tipping out the alcohol, etc. 128 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: I know there's been some concerns about whether they'll sort 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: of be able to have the same powers as police. 130 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: Where are we at with that they virtually have the 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: same powers as police. What we're doing is we're not 132 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: training them in to undertake criminal investigations. So the idea 133 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: is that it is a new stream and a new 134 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: career in policing specific to PPSOS, and that stream will 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: be focused on interacting with the community, preventing anti social behavior, 136 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: not tied up back up the office doing prosecution files 137 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: for criminal offenses. Right, So they'll be quick interventions, tipping 138 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: out alcohol, making arrests if need be. They'll be able 139 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: to make arrest even if it's a criminal offense. But 140 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: then they'll pass it on to the constables who will 141 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: then take over that matter and they'll be back out 142 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: on the street. 143 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: And will that then free up our police officers to 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: be able to get out there and actually do their jobs. 145 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: Exactly, It'll be turning our police officers from having to 146 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: deal constantly with a lot of anti social behavior and 147 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: putting them in the working on the more serious matters 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: that you know, we do get backlogged and we can't 149 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: always get to our calls for service as quick as 150 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: we'd like. To so hopefully that will then put those 151 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: people back in that space. 152 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: Well, that's what territorians want, right they want to know 153 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: that when they call the police that they're going to 154 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: be able to get somebody out there if it's an 155 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: issue of importance. Now, in terms of today, I know 156 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: that the Minister for Transport had issued a statement saying 157 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: that there was going to be police and other government 158 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: agencies out and about on the bus networks today to 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: make sure that kids were able to get to school safely. 160 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: How have things gone this morning so far? 161 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: So far it's been good. So we did have a 162 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: multi agency response ye throughout the Casarina route. All the 163 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: information that's coming in has been really proactive, been positive, 164 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: The engagement with the kids has been good and so 165 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: far has been success. And all the kids should be 166 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: at school. 167 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: I hope. So, I tell you what, I'm glad that 168 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: they're all going back to school today. Don't want to 169 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: go so far as to celebrate, but I think a 170 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: lot of Northern Territory parents will be. 171 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely very happy to have the kids back. 172 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Well, look, it's really good to have you both in 173 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: the studio. I appreciate your time. Senior Sergeant Joshua cunning 174 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Out and of course Brendan Muldoon, the Assistant Commissioner of 175 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: the Territory Safety Division, thank you so much for your 176 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: time this morning. Really appreciate you coming in for our pleasure. 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: And by the way, we are recruiting. 178 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: All right. 179 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: So you're looking for we're looking for applicants, all right. 180 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: We've got several courses for the PPSOS coming out this year, 181 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: there'll be more next year, so we want as many 182 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: applicants as we can. 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: So you've got your said twenty four starting next next month, okink? 184 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: And so how many are you hoping to end up with? 185 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: As many as possible? 186 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: As many as we can as you can budget for, 187 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 3: that's right, and that's the key word there. We want 188 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: a lot, we actually do. There's going to be several 189 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: years of recruiting till we get up to strength, but 190 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: there'll be at least seventy two graduate this year and 191 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: a lot more next year. 192 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: So has it been quite a bit of interest, it has. 193 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. We've got over forty applicants for our first course, 194 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: so will fill that course, and we've got to make 195 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 3: sure that we feel the next one. So we want 196 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: as many applicants to come through. It's a really good package. 197 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: Go to our website. If you click on the Northern 198 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: Church of Police website, look under careers will just type 199 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 3: in ppso all the pay and entitlements are listed there 200 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: for you to have a look through it. So it's 201 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: quite a good package. 202 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Ready to go. Good stuff. Well, lovely to have you 203 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: both in the studio this morning. Thank you so much 204 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: for your time.