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Speaker 1: Claw Claw.

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Speaker 2: This is what ended up on the cutting room floor today.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever been to the Museum of Older New

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Speaker 3: Artentazi Mona?

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Speaker 2: Love it, Hobart.

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Speaker 3: It's extraordinary, it's confronting, it's beautiful, it's ugly, it is

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Speaker 3: quite It's quite an experience, isn't it. The man who

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Speaker 3: has put that together, David Walsh's. His name is hugely eclectic,

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Speaker 3: as is his wife, Kersher Koshell. She has curated a

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Speaker 3: space in the museum that has been the subject of

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Speaker 3: a court case. We'll start at the news this is

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Speaker 3: the brand new news about this court case, and we'll

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Speaker 3: go back then and explain what the court case was about.

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Speaker 3: So on Friday, just as Shane Marshall overturned it as

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Speaker 3: decision made by the Tasmanian Civil and Administrative Tribunal that

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Speaker 3: found that one of their exhibits had been discriminatory. It

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Speaker 3: was the Lady's Lounge. It was found initially that this

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Speaker 3: had gone against the state's antidiscrimination Act, but that's recently

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Speaker 3: been overturned and it's back to a new tribunal. So

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Speaker 3: Kursher Kishell, who as I said, is the wife of

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Speaker 3: the owner of Mona. She was a curator of this space,

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Speaker 3: and essentially it was a ladies lounge of art where

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Speaker 3: men weren't allowed in. And that was because the whole point,

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Speaker 3: the whole concept of this space was about the consistent

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Speaker 3: exclusion of women from power and privilege. And one man said,

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Speaker 3: how come I can't go in there? Took it to

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Speaker 3: court and they were told it was discriminatory, even though

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Speaker 3: the whole point of it was to show how offensive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's art.

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Speaker 3: That's the whole point of the that's right, it's showing

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Speaker 3: a mirror in your face. And this guy said I

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Speaker 3: should be allowed to go in there, and the court agreed.

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Speaker 3: So this has now been overturned, which is very interesting,

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Speaker 3: and so Kersher has said she's actually quite grateful to

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Speaker 3: this man who has brought everyone on this journey. She said,

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Speaker 3: now more than ever, it's important for us to challenge

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Speaker 3: our perspectives with open interest and refine our understanding.

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Speaker 4: I've enjoyed every minute of.

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Speaker 3: This process because there were great shots of her and

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Speaker 3: a phalanx of a legal team, all women, heading into

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Speaker 3: court to say, this angry man is fighting exactly what

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Speaker 3: the whole point of this exhibition is.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what the point of the exhibition is. It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I thought you was soap from there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thanks for that.

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Speaker 3: It is as my hairdresser says. He's French, and he said,

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Speaker 3: there's an exhibit of a wall of vagen, which is

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Speaker 3: French word for the downstairs and a whole. And it's

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Speaker 3: a great exhibition because it is about the variety of

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Speaker 3: women's organs and you never see it.

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Speaker 4: So women judge themselves because I think there's is weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it, and.

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Speaker 4: I thought you was soap. You can choose a soap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They also remember they had the pooing machine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and at three o'clock every day it would show

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Speaker 3: the intricacies of the human gastro intestinal track. And at

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Speaker 3: three o'clock every day it would do a PLoP. It

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Speaker 3: smelt like a human PLoP.

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Speaker 2: It was just like you.

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Speaker 3: Ad three o'clock. Mine's normally around four. They didn't have

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Speaker 3: that at the gift shop, though, I would have brought

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Speaker 3: you one of those.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I need another soap. My one's run out.

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Speaker 4: Simon put a seatbelt on it.

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Speaker 2: A man's curtain.

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Speaker 5: Room, Beggy's way to the cutting room floor, and I

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Speaker 5: feel a bit remiss that we didn't talk about this today.

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Speaker 4: It's a very interesting phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: Men often feel that their wives and girlfriends, maybe both

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Speaker 3: of them, text them for no reason throughout the day

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Speaker 3: and a completely nonsensical and over emotional no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I saw this one. This is a guy who's on

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Speaker 3: he explains the text he got from his girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: This is the type of text I get while I'm

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Speaker 1: Well I have a question. Would you be against getting

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Speaker 1: a horse. And then she replied, why do you hate me?

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Speaker 1: And I said I don't hate you. Where can we

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Speaker 1: won't work. Then after that she said I love you,

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Speaker 1: and I said I love you too, and she replies

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Speaker 1: with no, you don't. If you did, you'd let me

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Speaker 4: Women, and he says, what do you do with that?

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Speaker 3: It is interesting because texts don't convey enough emotions, so

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Speaker 3: you read too many nuances into them. Have ever since

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Speaker 3: you were a text that has made you go, what

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Speaker 3: the hell's she talking about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, by the time that you're a car, you

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Speaker 5: thought your petrol tank was getting bigger.

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Speaker 2: Was look, fuel bill was more expensive.

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Speaker 3: Because it took more This was a number of years ago.

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Speaker 3: My car took more fuel than normal, meaning it was

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Speaker 3: I know it sounds ludicrous now, but that's what I

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Speaker 3: thought at the time. Remember that time I had to

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Speaker 3: text you to say on my way home, this is

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Speaker 3: terrible because you're at my house. We're going to be

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Speaker 3: filming something. You and my husband, the two worst people

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Speaker 3: to know this information, were waiting in my house and

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Speaker 3: I to text and say I've run out of petrol

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Speaker 3: in the Harbor tunnel and I'm waiting to be toad.

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Speaker 2: You actually made the traffic news.

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Speaker 3: I had to You know, when they say there's a

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Speaker 3: not the third row?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't. Was it a concert?

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Speaker 4: There's a hazard in the lane to the left. That

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Speaker 5: I should just say it's Amanda, she's run out of

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Speaker 5: fuel again. Can't understand a fuel gauge. Even though you

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Speaker 5: have a car that can measure the amount of fuel

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Speaker 5: it will need to travel down to the millimeter.

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Speaker 3: My car knows from Germany when there's a shift en

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Speaker 3: barometric pressure. I'm not as bad as I used to be.

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Speaker 3: I always thought I'll get it down to about the

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Speaker 3: just a little sniff, sniff, sniff of petrol, and that

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Speaker 3: wou'd be enough. Now my car says, you've only got

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Speaker 3: thirty k's left. You've only got what it And sometimes

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Speaker 3: it goes up to thirty five because my tank gets bigger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And that was these less source content texting.

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Speaker 4: To ask you can I get a horse?

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Speaker 2: No, you're not getting a horse you hate. There's no

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Speaker 1: You, everybody, it's time to joldy and a man's curtain fall.

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Speaker 4: It's a curtain room, far, it's a curtain room far.

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Speaker 2: Set it up on the cutting room floor. What do

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Speaker 2: you think about gender reveal celebrations.

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Speaker 3: I was the sort that didn't even want to know

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Speaker 3: what kind of a baby I was having until it

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Speaker 2: Until it was surrounding.

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Speaker 4: I was never going to do.

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Speaker 3: In our day, it seemed exotic to hear of any

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Speaker 3: please deliver our baby, meaning come over and give us

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Speaker 3: the envelope? And I thought that was the most exotic

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Speaker 2: And did that happen?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: These days, you know, there's cakes, there's cars that are

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Speaker 5: Plane set fire to an area in America. Half of

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Speaker 5: America went on fire because of a gender reveal. A

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Speaker 5: Melbourne dad has had his car impounded after he did

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Speaker 5: a gender reveal burnout.

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Speaker 2: That's what it sounds about.

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Speaker 4: Happened.

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Speaker 5: He's in Karen Downs in Melbourne's southeast and he was

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Speaker 5: performing burnouts or burnouts with blue smoke coming from the

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Speaker 5: tire so having a little boy.

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Speaker 2: The local officers.

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Speaker 5: Impoundered the man's holden commodore Surprise Surprise, which is going

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Speaker 5: to cross the guy over a thousand bucks to get back.

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Speaker 5: By the way, it's rather gobsmacking, really and very fortunate

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Speaker 5: members of the public called through.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll ringing in with congradulas having a boy.

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Speaker 3: So were you saying the smoke comes from the wheels,

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Speaker 3: not from the exhaust.

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Speaker 2: No, it's from the tires.

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Speaker 4: But how do you get blue to come out?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you ask. In the tire there's a

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Speaker 5: polymer that goes into the tire that when it gets

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Speaker 5: friction going, it releases blue smoke.

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Speaker 4: So what would they have put into the tie to

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Speaker 4: make that come out?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Is there a rubber technician in the house. I'm not

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Speaker 4: No, I think she doesn't want to talk.

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Speaker 2: I think if you rubb a technician.

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Speaker 5: I think if you went down to Bob J and

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Speaker 5: T Marts and said to Bob, Hey, Bob, I'm got

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Speaker 5: a gender reveal coming up.

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Speaker 2: Can you whip me up some blue tires? He would

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Speaker 2: explain it.

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Speaker 3: If I had that in my tires and I just

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Speaker 3: drove through the gender reveal, would I be able to

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Speaker 3: reveal the gender?

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Speaker 4: Or do I have to go?

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Speaker 2: You have to smoke the bags?

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Speaker 4: And how do I do that? Just by spinning the car?

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Speaker 5: Well, you put your foot on the brake. If you've

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Speaker 5: got to get out of town V eight lots of horsepower.

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Speaker 5: You don't need to put your foot on the brake.

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Speaker 5: But with your car, actually, I don't know. You might

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Speaker 5: blop your transfer.

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Speaker 3: What I would do I just drive past and say

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Speaker 3: it's a boy just ruin it. I saw someone the

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Speaker 3: other day. This is obviously a joke. This grown man

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Speaker 3: goes to someone's house and he's completely naked and they're

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Speaker 3: looking horrified. He said, well, I'm here for the gender reveal.

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Speaker 3: He was smoking his bags as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, bags on display.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Is that enough information?

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Speaker 2: His car's now being crushed into a cube, has it really? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A blue cube?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 4: Nice baby, every buddy.

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Speaker 2: It's time for Chelsey and the man's room on the

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Speaker 2: cutting room floor today.

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Speaker 3: Well, push, prison's a thing when you and your wife

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Speaker 3: had children.

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Speaker 5: No, no, you just had the baby. That's what you

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Speaker 5: did in those days. You just had the baby.

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Speaker 4: How your youngest twenty two?

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Speaker 5: Twenty three, yeah, twenty two, Yeah, he just had your baby.

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Speaker 2: And then you get back to doing your chores.

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Speaker 3: Were you want Walton Mountains on the prairie, turning.

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Speaker 2: Your batter.

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Speaker 4: This is a euphemism. I'm not even.

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Speaker 2: Sure tending to the crops in the field.

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Speaker 4: Look this push prison.

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Speaker 3: What you do every morning is while we're trying to

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Speaker 3: Debbie Downer, but it's the same picture every day.

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Speaker 5: Your how is it then that that's not interesting? But

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Speaker 4: Am I following them?

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Speaker 2: The kid deflating a beach ball.

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Speaker 4: It's very good. Don't even get me study eight thousand followers.

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Speaker 2: Don't even get me started on Hot to Girl.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for what's there on the catin room

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Speaker 3: Well, I saw some footage, and if you were there

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Speaker 4: But to watch the footage, it is so hilarious.

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Speaker 3: There's a stack of kids at a friendship farmer petting

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Speaker 4: The zoomies have you ever seen an emu with the zoomies?

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Speaker 4: Stick your neck.

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Speaker 3: Out, man, Come on, No, what's happened? Zoomies are well,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know emu's got them. And so at this

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Speaker 4: Oh, I've got to love this fair What does dislike me?

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Speaker 2: Marty.

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Speaker 4: Marty was the man.

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Speaker 2: That's Marty, the monster.

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Speaker 4: The mighty, the monster. It's a big thing that looked

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Speaker 2: It got bashed up by a kangaroo, got whacked.

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Speaker 3: Around the ground, Mary, and Marty was the one that

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Speaker 2: So it was a poor man's Darryl and Aussy. Yes, Mary, but.

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Speaker 4: Marty and you came before Darryl and Izzy.

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Speaker 3: But then no, no, no, that was the Australian version

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Speaker 4: Either way, someone had their hand up an.

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Speaker 5: That's all we can do was pick up bits of

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Speaker 2: And what are we watching now? Made in Bondai? Oh God?

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Speaker 3: Someone's hand up someone's bum.

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