1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Well and Woody podcast many. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what this sound is something that takes 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: me back to any school yard fight when I was 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: growing up. I think back then i'd never I certainly 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: wasn't old enough. My parents wouldn't let me watch Jerry Springer. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: All I knew was that when there was an eruption 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: that was totally uncontainable but seemed outrageous, you would chant that, 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: only to lay to find out that it was obviously 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: what the audience were calling out during the Jerry Springer Show. 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: Jerry died at the age of seventy nine overnight, which 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: is Yeah, just a time and reflection on that show, 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: and I know that it was truly like a seminal 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: moment in pop culture history. So we're going to speak 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: to one of the producers of the Jerry Springer TV 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: show right now, and Fred Borick the third who joins 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: as welcome Fred. He yeah, really, well, thanks man. I 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: want my first question for you is I heard that 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: the way that the show would work is that Jerry 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: actually didn't know what the issue was between the people 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: that were on the stage, and he we just have 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: the names on a card, and then he would he 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: would find out in real time with the audience. What 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: what what the the problem was? And I've got some 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: audio here that that illustrates just that. But before I 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: before I hear you elaborate that on that, have a listen, Bob. 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: What's going on? That's always my first question. And he says, well, 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm having trouble with the neighbors. What's the problem. Well, 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 3: they don't like my wife. What's wrong with your wife? 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: Though? 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. She doesn't make any noise, 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: she doesn't talk to anyone. So this is going nowhere. 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: I figure out this is boring. I look at the 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: next name on the list and it says Pixel. Well, 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: let's bring out Pixel and out comes this horse. 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: So can you talk a little bit about how you 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: set those things up, how you found these people, and 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: how that played out. 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, you know, basically at the show there was 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: always a hotline as the phone umber I would alway 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 5: pop up at the bottom of the screen, and so 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 5: you know, we get all sorts of different calls. We 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: get you know, young kids on Friday night hanging out 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 5: with the friends, Frank calling us. But then we'd also 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 5: get you know, serious calls. Uh, and we pursue every 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 5: leader just you know, uh, just trying to track down stories. 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: And so it is true Jerry would when you go out, 47 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 5: you just have like the basic information the person's name, uh, 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: you know, just like their age and that it's basically 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: it because you know, I mean he was probably a 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: world class interviewer. You know, you'd pull details out of people. 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 5: And I think that's how he kept it fun for 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: himself and how he was able to do the show 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: for a long time because he is like investigation and 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 5: you know, he was in the politics and he you know, 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: worked with Kennedy's for their political runs and stuff like that. 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: And he was just a very intricate, h you know, 57 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: amazing gentleman who is very very generous and would take 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 5: time for anybody. Uh you know, all his fans shoot 59 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: stop and and science stuff for him and take pictures 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: and you know, until everybody got got to uh to 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: get their experience with him. You know, he would stay around. 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: Did you did you did it ever blow up in 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: your face or was there ever a point where you know, 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: you'd organized a horse or a particular set of people 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: which was so confrontational that you were like ship, We've 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: you know we've gone too far. We've put him in 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: a bad spot here. 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 5: I mean to to a point. 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 6: No. 70 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 5: I mean he you know, he no matter how cornered 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: in he would get just by, you know, if people 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 5: got angry or you know, offended or anything like that. 73 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: He was always able to work in him self out 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 5: of the situation. 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 7: Uh. 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: Now, production wise, there worse. Some things that were were hiccups. 77 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: You know, finding like a football helmet at two in 78 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 5: the morning in Chicago isn't the easiest thing to do, 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: or finding a you know, making the enough jello to 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 5: have a baby pool full, so for Jella wrestling. But 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: you know that's that's a skill that you put on 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 5: your resume that now every way has. Yeah, that's right, 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 5: But that's what kept the show of fun, you know, yeah, experience. 84 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: I know that there were like some wild is there 85 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: anything that sticks out in your memory is like the 86 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: wildest fight or wildest craziest moment on the shot? 87 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know there's there's a couple of 88 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 5: brothers that you know, came out there, big burly, like 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 5: two hundred and sixty pound guys, and one was sleeping 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 5: with the other one's wife, and you know they came 91 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: out swinging. First punch, the guy gets knocked out and 92 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: they basically cut the tape and drag him off the 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 5: stage because he was out cold, and you know, they basically, 94 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 5: you know, it was kind of you know, no holds barre. Sometimes. 95 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of the security guards were 96 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 5: trained police officers, and sometimes things get to the point 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: where it was almost too much for him, you know. 98 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 5: So it was definitely definitely a little bit crazy. 99 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: I actually found, actually heard something about the security gods 101 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: that I wanted to want to ask you about. Up next, 102 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: so placed everything Fred Bark, Thefeti's producer and the Jerry 103 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: Springer Show. Jerry Springing died overnight Thursday night, peacefully in 104 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: his home. And we're remembering truly one of the great 105 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: great parts of pop culture, and I'm sure a lot 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: of people's lives Right up next on Will and Woodiet's 107 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: kiss Hey, Twillam Morty driving your home on a Friday 108 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: afternoon and remembering the Jerry Springer Show. 109 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 7: Former Cincinnati mayor and legendary talk show host Jerry Springer 110 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 7: has died. In a statement from his family, Springer died 111 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 7: peacefully at his home in Chicago. He spent twenty seven 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 7: years hosting The Jerry Springer Show, which was known for 113 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 7: over the top guests and fights in the audience. He 114 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 7: was seventy nine years old. 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: So, Fred, I mean, I get the feeling just talking 116 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: to you previously, you talk about him very fondly, and 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: we were talking about the security guards just then, and 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: I've got a really interesting fact about that, which I'd 119 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: love to get you to confirm for me. 120 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: But before I. 121 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: Do that, it seems like, as I said, you're talking 122 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: very funly about him, and that that's in step contrast 123 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: to how the producers, most recently of the Ellen de 124 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: Generous Show have spoken about her and how a lot of. 125 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: TV producers get treated. 126 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: Is it is it true that that he would take 127 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: the security guards out for dinner after the show? 128 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: Oh? For sure, for sure. The differences between him and 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: Ellen are polar opposites. There was no toxic. 130 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 6: Uh. 131 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 5: Work environment is like a family there, you know, from 132 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: the cast and the crew and the pas and the cameraman. 133 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 5: Everyone work together. Everyone got along and is a collective, 134 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 5: a collective effort. You know, it would he was the 135 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 5: most down to earth guy, you know, he would he'd 136 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: help anybody he could with any way he could, you know, 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 5: and he's just remembered like that with with a lot 138 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: of people that met him as well as the people 139 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 5: that worked with him. You know, you can you can, 140 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 5: you know, ask him for anything anytime day and he 141 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: would drop what he's doing and help you out. 142 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome. 143 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: It's really nice to hear because you know, I treat 144 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: my producers like shit, so maybe I should. 145 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 8: Face So back in two thousand and nine, the show 146 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 8: left Chicago for Connecticut, and there's there's a decision on 147 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 8: the NBC's part, and you know, so they built this 148 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 8: big megaplex out there with Maury. 149 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 5: And Steve Show and Jerry's show, and you know, Jerry 150 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: fought tooth and be able to keep the show in Chicago, 151 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: and you know he was. He was choked up when 152 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: the show head ends in Chicago because he worked with 153 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: a lot of those people for twenty plus years and 154 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 5: it's it was like a family, you know. I mean, 155 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: it's it's crazy to say, but it's one of the 156 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: best working environments ever working. 157 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: Wow. That's also particularly for God known as the grandfather 158 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: of trash TV. It's it's amazing to hear like, yeah, 159 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: you know, off air, he was this really beautiful soul. 160 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: Can I ask just about like the evolution of the 161 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: soul because of the show. One of the articles and 162 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: one of the headlines I read today was, you know, 163 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: the man that did debate Oprah obviously another huge talk 164 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: show host. Was that because there was a stage there 165 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: where you were beating Oprah in the ratings? 166 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: Was that ever? 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: I think the goal to to you know, to just 168 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: do something so different to what she was doing in 169 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: order to try and beat her. Were you ever setting 170 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: out to do that and trying to be more radical 171 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: than her? 172 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think the whole goal of the 173 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: show ultimately, if you're putting a goal together for the show, 174 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: is just to have fun. It's just like hanging out 175 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 5: with fronts, you know. I mean all these shows try to, 176 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: you know, imply that they're going to make world change 177 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: or they're going to help out people buy a TV show. 178 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 5: That doesn't happen, you know, And so if you take 179 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 5: yourself too seriously, it's the results are just you know, 180 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: an extreme amount of just fake. Yeah, you know, Shorting 181 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 5: whereas you know, his show is just kind of like 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: a party. I mean, there's a fun time and it 183 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 5: is like the only talk show to really beat Oprah 184 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 5: in the ratings. Yeah, and Oprah swimed in Chicago as well, 185 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: and it, you know, kind of put tension. But you know, 186 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: Jerry came out on top of this, you know, for 187 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 5: a while there. 188 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: I suppose when you say it was real, were there 189 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: any moments where you feel like the show crossed the line? 190 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Were you ever in a moment where you like, gee, 191 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: was you know, like those footage of people grabbing chairs 192 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: out of the crowd to sort of hit someone over 193 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: the head with them and that sort of thing. 194 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think, well, you know with 195 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: the paperwork he signed when you showed up. 196 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: What was the paperwork? Was there just a huge waiver 197 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: when you rocked up. 198 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 5: Well, it's pretty much a waiver that just said that 199 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 5: they could use your likness on TV. But also, you know, 200 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 5: things can happen, so you just got to keep your 201 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 5: eyes open and you know, watch for flying chairs, you know, 202 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 5: And so it's it's probably the only TV show you'd 203 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 5: come across with that kind of waiver. But you know, 204 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: it's you got to put it out there because I mean, 205 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 5: things get out of control. Sometimes Yeah, you know, it's 206 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: it's definitely definitely definitely a fun time, you know. 207 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, now I hate to dive further into 208 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: your memory bank, uh here, but I guess the story's 209 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: truly outrighteous. I know, you gave us the story about 210 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: the guy who knocked out knocked out his his brother 211 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: who had been sleeping with his wife live on stage. 212 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: Are there any other moments for you that so to 213 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: stand out on either end of the scale, to be honest, 214 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: like great resolutions or you know, really hectic things that 215 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: you guys were like, oh my god, that is wild 216 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: that that just happened on live TV. 217 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean there's there there are a 218 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: few things. I mean, there's a guy comes through Hillbillies 219 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: is on the show. There's always entertaining and you know, 220 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: I mean some of the uh, some of the fights 221 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: were just uh just kind of overwhelming sometimes, you know, 222 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: I mean because a lot of times, you know, when 223 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 5: they're when they're prepping to go out on stage, they 224 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: think they're there for something else, and then you tell 225 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 5: them the real reason they're there, and then you shove 226 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 5: them out on stage. And when they get out on 227 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 5: stage with you know, the studio lights and the cameras 228 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 5: and everybody looking at them and they realize they're on 229 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 5: national TV. It makes people, you know, act a little strange. 230 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: And so if they think they're just here to you know, 231 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: be like on the show to uh just you know, 232 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 5: confront somebody for you know, fighting or something, and then 233 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 5: they find out, hey, guess what, by the way, your 234 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 5: wife is sleeping with somebody else boom out on stage. 235 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 5: That changes things because they don't they don't have a 236 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: time to think about it. You know, it's more reactionary. 237 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that is crazy. 238 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 2: Was there any any time that you feed for somebody's safety? 239 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: No? 240 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 5: No, I mean in reality, the security guards again, we're 241 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 5: trained police officers and and and so you know, they 242 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 5: knew proper techniques and restraints and all that kind of stuff. 243 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean there were like I mean, I 244 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 5: suppose that something was flying to the air. That is 245 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: kind of uncontrollable. But yeah, you know it is at 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 5: the end of the day, you know, we made it 247 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: through without too many injuries, so yeah, that's a good thing. 248 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: Did you have a favorite episode or a favorite moment? 249 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 5: You know, the guy who married the horse was kind 250 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: of funny. You know a lot of the pay per 251 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 5: views are funny too, because as we were booking for 252 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 5: the pay per views, uh, like the kind of the 253 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 5: golden rule of the office was yeah yeah in America. 254 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: I don't if they were over overseas, but they'd like 255 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: pay per views back in that era. And so, uh 256 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 5: like the golden rule run the office was called strippers 257 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 5: because if they don't have something going on their line 258 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 5: and uh, that's kind of a first rule. And the 259 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 5: second rule is if they don't have something going on, 260 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: even though they do, they know somebody who does have 261 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: something going on. Because strippers are kind of like the 262 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: uh like the uh, the. 263 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Bread and butter finding, I know where they know where 264 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: the bodies are buried. So you would cold you would 265 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: cold striper hotlines and awesome for secrets on people. 266 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: Yeah wow, I mean we'd be like, who who is 267 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: the most train wrecked person? 268 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: You know? 269 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes they'd be like you guys, guy, which 270 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 5: is like the investigation service. 271 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: In America some problems, Yeah yeah yeah, and then you 272 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: would you would dread. So can you give me an 273 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: example of a case that you would sort of pick 274 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: up from that? Uh? 275 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: Well, so, I mean a lot of them were from Ohio. 276 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: Uh you know, so Ohio is just a trained wreck. 277 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: There's a lot of a lot of crazy people in Ohio, 278 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: and so it'd be somebody, you know, like we we'd 279 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 5: uh book the shows towards the end of the week, 280 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: and so you know, people are hanging out and you know, 281 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: you call somebody and may be asking their friends around. Hey, who, 282 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 5: you know, what's going on with John? John's John's got 283 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 5: some you know, something crazy going on. Here's this guy's number. 284 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: And we just followed the trailer the rabbit hole until 285 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 5: we found uh John and you know, talked to him 286 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 5: and then you know, got his story and offered to 287 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 5: bring him out to Chicago and film on the show. 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: Wow. 289 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, I think it's a water of a strip. 290 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: Admitted that she was sleeping with a sister's boyfriend a 291 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: few weeks ago. 292 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Your boyfriend and his friends came to the shop club. 293 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: They were spending a lot of money on me. I 294 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: went up to the champagne room and I offered him 295 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: a ride home because he was drunk, and it just 296 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: it got kind of wild and we ended. 297 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: Up having sex. 298 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 5: Are you serious? 299 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm serious. 300 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 6: Why the hell would you do this to me again, get. 301 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: Away from Me, get Away from Me. 302 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 6: Got Away from get Away. 303 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: Do you remember that? 304 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: Mmm, you have to be more specific, you know, I'm 305 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 5: sure I know the episode. Just there's a lot of 306 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: that going on. 307 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: Amazing. 308 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Well, man, it sounds like you're talking of it both 309 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: fondly in terms of the people that were on there, 310 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: but also just the content as well. Is just sounds 311 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: like something that you really enjoyed making, which again from 312 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: the outside is ironic because it looked like it was 313 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: just this hectic, you know, you're putting people up to 314 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: things that ultimately were you know, really disastrous for their lives. 315 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the weird thing 316 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: about it was that you actually confronted the issues that 317 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: they were dealing with, and you guys managed to get 318 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: a resolution on television. So like it was, you know, 319 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: kind of was whether the rubber meets the road was 320 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: on the camera, it was either there or out in 321 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: the street. 322 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: So in a lot of ways, kind of safe. 323 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah, exactly, And you know, I mean some of 324 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: the stuff, it's like, you know, so as as production 325 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 5: people were to hang out with the guests before show day, 326 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 5: we lu them out the day before, and so you know, 327 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: you'd have to make sure they don't get arrested or 328 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 5: you know, get drugged out on the streets or anything 329 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: like that. So we'd be hanging out and you know, 330 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 5: there'd be some crazy stuff that would go down to 331 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: the point where we were running out of hotels to 332 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: keep people. Some point, we had one we had one 333 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: couple on and we did like a bureau segment of 334 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: like they had like a bondage thing going on. So 335 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 5: you know, we take we go to a hotel room, 336 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 5: bring some rope and films, bondage thing, and then you know, 337 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: unfortunately it's like two in the morning, so we dropped 338 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: them at the hotel, yeah, and left all this stuff 339 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 5: in their their their room. And then I get called 340 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 5: at four in the morning that we had to get 341 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: our guests out of the hotel and they're kicked off 342 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 5: forever because they broke a window and tried playing Spider 343 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: Man outside. 344 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: The yuh outside the building. 345 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: And so I get there and there's a broken window 346 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: ten stories up and I'm like, what are you guys doing? 347 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: And I go, We've never been in the building was high. 348 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 5: We just want to see what it's like to swing 349 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 5: around outside, so they said, they basically slept in the 350 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 5: studio from you know, four in the morning till showtime 351 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: because we had nowhere to put them. 352 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: Hey, let me get this straight. 353 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: You gave them rope to do bondage stuff with and 354 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: they used it to hang themselves out of a ten 355 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: story building. 356 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, the broken window out and then try 357 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 5: to play Spider Man. That's what security guard said. He said, 358 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 5: you guess are playing Spider Man on the outside of 359 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: our building. 360 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 2: A oh man, that is astounding. Wow. Thank you so 361 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: much for all of those insides, Fred, and my thoughts 362 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: are with you at the passing of what sounds like 363 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: a friend, you know he was. 364 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 5: And like his tagline would be, you know, everyone take 365 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 5: care of yourself and take care of each other. Yeah, 366 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: that's what he wanted. 367 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 368 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: Nice, that's awesome, mate, Thanks so much for joining us. 369 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: That was awesome. 370 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody's really appreciated. 371 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Have a lovely afternoon for sure, you too, Thanks so much, Fred, Oh, 372 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: no problem, all the best, man, look after yourself, you too, 373 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: see your brother. 374 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 4: Hear more of the boys on the full podcast. 375 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 8: Just scroll up.