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Speaker 1: In the sittings of Parliament legislation passing to expand refunds

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Speaker 1: to any beverage container up to three liters, covering items

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Speaker 1: previously excluded like wine bottles, spirit models and milk cartons.

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Speaker 1: Now from early next year, the scheme is going to

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Speaker 1: include will all beverage containers up to three leaders, including wine,

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Speaker 1: spirits and plastic bottles, which were not previously accepted for refunds.

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Speaker 1: So I think it is something that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are going to be pretty happy about once it

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Speaker 1: does become operational from early next year. Are you somebody

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Speaker 1: that does do all your recycling and collects all your

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Speaker 1: bottles and cans, be very keen to hear from you

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Speaker 1: what kind of impact you reckon it's going to have

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Speaker 1: and if you please to hear that it has passed.

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Speaker 1: But joining me on the line right now is the

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Speaker 1: Inenviro Bank Managing Director Norell Anderson. Good morning, NoREL, Good morning,

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Speaker 1: lovely to have you on the show now, NoREL. The

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Speaker 1: legislation to expand the container deposit scheme, it's passed this week.

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Speaker 1: How significant is this for the Northern Territory in terms

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Speaker 1: of recycling and you know the environmental impact.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's significant for both. Actually it's it's significant for

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Speaker 2: the environment. So when container deposit legislation started more than

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Speaker 2: forty years ago now across the country, it really started

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Speaker 2: as a little legislation and it has very quickly evolved

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Speaker 2: in most recent times to a resource recovery circular economy regulation.

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Speaker 2: And of course we do need to be thinking about,

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Speaker 2: you know, what we're disposing of. We are running out

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Speaker 2: of landfill space, and we do need to be more

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Speaker 2: thoughtful about what we're doing with our waste, and of

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Speaker 2: course regulation and legislation like this goes a long way

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Speaker 2: to address those problems. And you know, in terms of

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Speaker 2: the financial impact for everybody, you know that it's a

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Speaker 2: refund scheme, So if you're buying it, you get the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to get the ten cents back. And if you're

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Speaker 2: not buying it and you feel like starting your own business,

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Speaker 2: then you can get on out and start cleaning up

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Speaker 2: country and cash them in at local depot.

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Speaker 1: I know lots of kids, My kids collect all the

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Speaker 1: cans and stuff, you know, anything that gets drunk. They're

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Speaker 1: keen to, you know, to try and make a bit

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Speaker 1: of cash from it if they can but I know

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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of people that like they literally

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Speaker 1: get out there and it means that they are out

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Speaker 1: there collecting things that you know, collecting cans and rubbish

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Speaker 1: that ordinarily, you know, the council or somebody else might

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Speaker 1: be having to pick up.

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Speaker 2: The council would either be picking it up or it

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Speaker 2: ends up in our waterway and ends up in our

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Speaker 2: parks and has you know, obviously detrimental environmental impact when

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Speaker 2: those things happen. So and you know, it doesn't hurt

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Speaker 2: anybody to get outside and go for a bit of

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Speaker 2: a walk. And if you can get paid for doing that,

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Speaker 2: why not.

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Speaker 1: Why not? I agree? Now in two some of wine bottles,

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Speaker 1: spirit bottles, the milk cartons finally being included under the scheme.

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Speaker 1: From an operational perspective, does it present any challenges or

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Speaker 1: you know, like, is it going to be you're going

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Speaker 1: to need different sort of to do things a little

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Speaker 1: bit differently.

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Speaker 2: We might need to do some things a little bit differently,

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Speaker 2: but the government is well organized and the operators in

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Speaker 2: the scheme have handled this kind of material. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of business as usual for us. So when when D

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Speaker 2: Day happens, we'll be ready willing and able to accept

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Speaker 2: all the containers that are now included.

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Speaker 1: I know you've long advocated for broader inclusion in that

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Speaker 1: container deposit scheme. How do you see the expansion affecting

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Speaker 1: you know, the I guess the number of people wanting

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Speaker 1: to get involved, but particularly sort of in remote and

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Speaker 1: regional communities. Do you reckon it'll make much of a difference.

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Speaker 2: Well, it definitely makes a difference in remote and regional communities.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of that material is in community.

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Speaker 2: So again if you're outside and you know, looking around

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Speaker 2: on the ground picking up those ten cent coins. One

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Speaker 2: of the things that we specialize at Enviral Bankers where

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Speaker 2: an indigenous business is really making sure that communities do

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Speaker 2: get access to the container deposit scheme. And that's again

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Speaker 2: that's part of our secret source and service offering if

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Speaker 2: you like, and it does mean a great deal for

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Speaker 2: community because it is a job, if you like, and

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Speaker 2: one that you can do at your own leisure and

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Speaker 2: one that puts real money back in your pocket.

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Speaker 1: Noel, what are the next steps from your perspective? You know,

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Speaker 1: from that operational perspective, I understand that it will be

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Speaker 1: operational from early next year. Is that your take.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's early to mid next year is

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Speaker 2: when the scheme will be fully operational, likely that there'll

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Speaker 2: be a phased approach. We will be ready on day

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Speaker 2: one to accept all the containers. We're looking at our

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Speaker 2: facilities a moment making sure that you know, all of

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Speaker 2: our equipment is as it should be ready to go

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Speaker 2: for day one. But there are other states that have

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Speaker 2: wine bottles and spirit bottles included, So I guess we

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Speaker 2: know what we're doing and we'll be ready for everybody

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Speaker 2: to bring those containers to us. We also have recently

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Speaker 2: launched a pickup service in the territory. You know, we

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that lots of people don't have access to vehicles

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Speaker 2: or perhaps live a little bit too far away from

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Speaker 2: a container deposit depot, and we have a pickup service

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Speaker 2: as well to make sure that absolutely everybody can be

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Speaker 2: involved in the scheme if they really want to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think it sounds great that it's expanding

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Speaker 1: to include you know, your wine bottles, your milk bottles,

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Speaker 1: all that kind of thing, because we've all sort of

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Speaker 1: got that you know, that bit of all those you know,

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Speaker 1: those things that we'd like to recycle we'd like to

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Speaker 1: be able to make sure that we're doing the right

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Speaker 1: thing and if we're able to take it in and

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Speaker 1: get that that bit of money for it as well.

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Speaker 1: It can only be a good thing, right.

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Speaker 2: It can only be a good It can only be

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Speaker 2: a good thing. I think you know, it's hard. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to make a dollar these days, and if you've

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Speaker 2: got an activity that you can go and get fit

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Speaker 2: and make some money at the same time, it seems

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Speaker 2: like it makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does well in Viro Banks Managing Director Norell Anderson.

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Speaker 1: Great to speak with you this morning. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you