1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. Statham joining us this morning. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: He's had a challenging few months, not at the best 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: start to twenty twenty. But the Prime Minister joins us 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: this morning, Scott Morrison. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Hello, good Amanda, How are you very well? 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, Ll scamer how are you? 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm good, Jonesy, jiez. 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: A hell of a month for you, mate, seems to 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: be the big thing at the moment. How do you 10 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: turn around the perception that you've become an ineffectual leader. 11 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: It seems like you're always on the back foot all 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: the time. 13 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Well, what everything is about is what's happening to the 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Australian people. I mean, they've just gone through the worst summer. 15 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: Forgured about me. They've gone through the worst summer. People 16 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: lost their lives, lost their homes, they've lost their businesses, 17 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: their livelihoods. That's the only thing that matters. 18 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: But still, you know, you must have seen it, like 19 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: you talk about the Canberra bubble all the time, and 20 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: then you went from the bubble straight to the firefront. 21 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: It must have been very confronting. 22 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Well it was, and it was very raw and people 23 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: were hurting a lot. And that's why we took the 24 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: action we did to get the defense forces out there 25 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: at a much greater scale. Mean that, I mean they 26 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: were responding to the requests that we had, and we 27 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: had around about eight hundred and I think it was 28 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: an eight hundred and ninety five Defense Force personnel out there. 29 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: I then took the decision that we weren't going to 30 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: wait for requests. We're going in and six and a 31 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: half thousand boots on the ground, which made a huge 32 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: difference in those communities. It wasn't because the States weren't 33 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: doing the right thing, of dough doing the right thing. 34 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: They just needed more people out there, and we got 35 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: them out there, and I think it's made a massive difference. 36 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: I mean, Defence forces were fixing the roof at the 37 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: Mogo Zoo, they were cleaning up the Eden mill, they 38 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: were clearing roads, they were getting water people, they were 39 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: evacuating people out of very difficult spots. They did an 40 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: amazing job and they're still doing it. 41 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: I feel that there's been a real shift in the 42 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: way Australians are looking at things since our horrendous summer 43 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: and feeling that we're moving towards alternate fuels too. Slowly. 44 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Doctor Carla said that we have everything we need to 45 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: get emissions down to zero. We've got the science, we've 46 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: got the technology. The only thing missing is political will. 47 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: We can transition to fossil fuels if we want to. 48 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Do you want to, I mean from But I agree 49 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: that there are alternative fuels, and that's why we're investing 50 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: in hydrogen. The technology. The thing is, you've got to 51 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: make it commercial and scalable to get it everywhere. And 52 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: we've done that work and it shows that a lot 53 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: of those fuels won't be really commercially scalable and available 54 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: for about a decade. But if we weren't talking about 55 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: getting gas out from under the ground. And I went 56 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: into the deal with New South Wild Class and that's 57 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 2: over seventy pedadules of gas, and that is an important 58 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: bridge fuel to get us to the next phase. So 59 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: we're doing so many practical things, but we don't need 60 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: to tax people more or put their electricity prices up 61 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: to do No. How can I just. 62 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Say, though, but I gas is I know you're saying 63 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: that's a gateway to the future. That still is a 64 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: fossil fuel. But in Germany, for example, they looked at 65 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: this years ago, and they had symposiums with economists and 66 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: scientists and politicians and they have transition without losing a 67 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: single job. I think it's time we need to do that. 68 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: They had nuclear energy for a long part of that 69 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: period and that's not something we have in Australia. But 70 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: also what we've done this is our rate of renewable 71 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: investment per person in Australia is more than double that 72 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: of Germany. I think people sometimes don't really understand how 73 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: much is happening in Australia. Our renewable investments have been 74 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: leading the world. We're going to meet and beat our 75 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: Kiator commitments for missions reductions. I don't know if people 76 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: understand that where others haven't met these commitments around the world, 77 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: we will have met and beat them. Our omissions will 78 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: have fallen by twelve point eight percent since two thousand 79 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: and five. And that's better than Canada, that's better than 80 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: New Zealand. It's about the same as the United States. 81 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: It's better than Japan, it's better than Korea. We have 82 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: the highest emissions reduction targets in the Asian region. So 83 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: we're doing the job. We're getting on with it and 84 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: we're meeting and beating our targets, but we're also going 85 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: to be sensible and not take away people's jobs, will 86 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: put up their electricity prices or wipeout industries that regional 87 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Australia depend on. 88 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: So you're making an announcement today, I'll be looking at 89 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: this in the paper and I think this is a 90 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: great thing, looking into the horrendous suicide rate of our 91 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: armed forces. 92 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: Yes, we're establishing a National Commissioner, and we're also stambling 93 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: seeing a family's advocate with the Department of Entrance Affairs. 94 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: We've been carefully considering this over the summer. I've spoken 95 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: a lot of parents who've lost kids I've lost, spoken 96 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: to veterans themselves and all the various organizations, and what 97 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: we've come up with is the way you've got to 98 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: look on this continually into the future, and that means 99 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: there will be a National Commissioner. They will have what 100 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: is effectively the powers of a Royal Commissioner. That means 101 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: they can compel evidence and people could be charged with 102 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: perjury and things like this if they don't comply. And 103 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: that means we can get to the bottom of each 104 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: and every case and learn every lesson that you need 105 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: to learn from every case. I mean, you've got to 106 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 2: do this literally, case by case, and this is about 107 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: prevention of suicide as well as acting where these horrific 108 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: events have taken place and to learn from them. They're 109 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: complex issues. Suicide is a very complex issue, and we've 110 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: got a whole of government approach towards zero goal on suicide. 111 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: Too many of our young people taking their lives, too 112 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: many young Indigenous kids taking their lives, too many of 113 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: our veterans taking their lives. And so in each of 114 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: these areas and across the board, we're just putting in 115 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: practical things that we think can get that down in 116 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: this National Commissioner that look at each and every case 117 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: both are looking backwards but importantly into the future, will 118 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: help us get this right. 119 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: Do you ever think Scott like, jeez, I wish I 120 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: just went down the South Coast this Christmas holidays because 121 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: it would have been. 122 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: A whole different South Coast was on fire. 123 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I mean. But you're usually down this, 124 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: You're usually down the. 125 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: South Point, and mate, we're going down going to go 126 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: down there for two weeks in January and we had 127 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: to change our plans because we then had to go 128 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: to India for the meeting with the Prime minister there 129 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: and in Japan, so we changed it. But look, look, 130 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: when I came back from that trip, let me be 131 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: honest with people. I mean, you don't get every decision right, okay, 132 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: And Jenny and I we regret that we went. Of 133 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: course we wanted to go away with our family and 134 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: our kids at that time. Of course we did, like 135 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: so many families did. It's been a rough year and 136 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: tough year, but you know, we wish we didn't and 137 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: we're sorry about that. And I thinks are big hearted 138 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: and when people are up front about these things, you 139 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: just move on. And since we've been back, I'll tell 140 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: you we haven't stopped. And we've been everywhere. We've made 141 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: the decisions. We've put two billion dollars into bush bire recovery, 142 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: we've set up a national agency, we've got on the 143 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: front foot over the coronavirus and ensuring we're keeping Australian safe, 144 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: and we're just getting on with it. And so I 145 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: know some people will continue to talk about that, and 146 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: I get it, and I understand it, and I understood 147 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: it made people angry, but you know, we're sorry about that. 148 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: We just got to get on with it. None of 149 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: us are perfect, but when we're not, we say we're not. 150 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying there. 151 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: It is. 152 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for joining us this morning. 153 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: Here. 154 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: From here on, let's hope the year gets better. 155 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: For us all. Now, before I go, can I wish Lily? 156 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: Who is my daughter? She's with They're on their way 157 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: to the swimming carnival and listening. They always listen to you. Guys, Lily, 158 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: You're going to go really well today? Good luck love? 159 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: What's so special? 160 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Do you think she's in everything? But at fifty meters 161 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: freestyle here is Dawn Fraser and she's met Dawn. She 162 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: loves Dawn. And so go out there like the Dawny today, lil, 163 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: and you'll smash it. 164 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: You're not going to sing her another song. 165 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: Are just going she knows the song as you know. 166 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: You talk over that. 167 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: Well, good on you mate, look after yourself and here's 168 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: to twenty A great twenty. 169 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Twenty, Thanks Prime Minister, Thanks guys, Jeess. 170 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Join the end, Amanda in the morning one at one 171 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: point seven, tell you m