1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Great the flick with ben o'she you know, I like 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: to stay home, a bit of a homebody's going out, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: but I'm going to leave the house for this one. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Pack of lunch because it goes for two and a 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: half hours. That's my advice. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: One of the comfortable ones. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gladiated too. I would definitely recommend going to one 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: of those, you know, gold class premium experiences. Reclined the 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: seat back, a couple of wines delivered. Maybe maybe one 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: of the cinema staff could feed you grapes like you're 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: a Roman emperor. Don't hold your breath. That's probably not 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: going to happen. But so the original movie came out 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: in the year two thousand, of course, starring Russell Crowe 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: as Maximus the Gladiator. 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Was sublime. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: He was fantastic, fantastic, and he won the Oscar for 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: Best Actor that year. The film won Best Picture from 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Lizzie Yep Ridley Scott. You know that was that was 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: one of his signature films in a career where he's 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: made many signature films. And it also starred Connie Nielsen 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: and wa in Phoenix A very young and he was 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: fantastic too, and it was just such a good movie. 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: It was inspirational and even to this day, I would 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: say pretty much everybody who saw it back then would 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: be able to rattle off a couple of quotes, you know, 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: whether it's you know, what we do in life that 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: goes in eternity, strength and honor, you know, I in 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: this life or the next. Liam Neeson wasn't there was Russell. 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: You heard that Maximus rob Roy was in rob Roy. 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 2: It was also anyway. So when Ridley Scott made that movie, 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: he had lots of he had lots of ideas of 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: what he wanted to do in terms of the battles 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: in the coliseum because they were you know, they were 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: huge back back then. The spectacle in Ancient Rome was incredible. 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: But he didn't have the technology, the filmmaking technology to 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: bring it to life. So that had been bubbling away 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 2: in the back of his head for twenty five years. 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: And so now he's had the chance to make a 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: second movie. The studio said how much money do you want, Ridley, 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, I don't know, four hundred million 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: and so book. So they've recreated the coliseum sort of 42 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: painstakingly brick by brick in Malta. They filmed some of 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: this in this movie in Morocco as well, to recreate 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: some sort of the outer regions of the Roman Empire. 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: But Russell Crowe, he's not involved. I think he was 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: a bit but hurt about it. Yeah, he came out 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: in a few interviews and said he was disappointed that 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: they were making a sequel and also, let's be honest, 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Russell Crowe in a toger, no one wants to see 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: that anymore. Not not anymore. And so anyway, so that 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: they needed a new cast, so they cast Paul mescal 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: irish actor who's got a lot of buzz in Hollywood 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: at home or he was in that Netflix series Normal People, 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: which everybody loved and obsessed with that and then indie 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: films like After Sun and All of Us Strangers. He 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: was nominated for an Oscar for After Sun and just 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: really really solid actor. But on the indie filmmaking spectrum, 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: then you've also got Pedro Pascal, who's also so hot 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: right now from an unbearable weight of massive talent, like 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: he has been where he first exploded. Yeah, all yeah, 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: And Connie Nielsen is back in the character of Lysillas. 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: So basically this film follows the footsteps of the first one. 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: You've got Little the little boy Lucius, who was Lucilla's 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: son in the first movie, is now all grown up. 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: He's Paul Mescal. He's been exiled for the past sixteen 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: years because his mum was worried someone would kill him 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: because he's the true heir to the throne of Rome. 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: He is now finds himself captured, becomes a slave, becomes 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: a gladiator a lot like Russell Crowe's character, and is 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: owned by this gladiator owner, Macronus, played by Denzel Washington, 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: who looks like he is having the time of his life. 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: Denzel is so good in this movie. Then, of course, 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: similar to the first movie, winds up in the Colosseum 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: in Rome, has to fight for his life, and Lucius 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: wants revenge just like Maximus did, and the object of 76 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: his revenge is this general of the Roman army who 77 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: came to his village, killed his wife, killed his mates, 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: played by Pedro pretty much everybody he ever loved played 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: by Pedro pascal As and so so that's basically what 80 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: it's about. And Denzel Washington's character, Macronus, says to Lucius, 81 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: tell you what, buddy, you put in a good effort 82 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: in the Colosseum, and I will make sure I serve 83 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: you up Acasius's head on a plate. Oh okay, And 84 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: so they sort of come to this agreement. So Macrinus 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: is a steamer. He is, he is, he has his 86 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: own agenda and his own revenge that he wants to take. 87 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on, a lot of palace 88 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: intrigue here because we've got twin emperors played by Joseph 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Quinn from Stranger Things and Fred Heckinger from White Lotus, 90 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: and their maniacs completely lunatics, and so they're running Rome 91 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: into the ground. So there's a lot of people who 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: hate them as well, and the and the Colisseum and 93 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: the games are seen as a distraction for the people, 94 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: and then on it kind of goes from there a 95 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: little twist. You get this from the you get this 96 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: from the trailer. So it's not a real spoiler. Lucius's 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: enemy arch enemy Acasius. It's now married to his mum, Lucilla. 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: So how many times happened back then? Well, look, gosh, 99 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: it's pretty incestuous period of time, so it's probably not 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: that weird, and so very awkward around the Christmas exactly 101 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: exactly what do you buy? So you've got that going 102 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: on in the background, and which has the potential for 103 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, real Shakespearean tragedy. The problem with this movie 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: is it probably tries too hard to remind you that 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: it's a follow on from the original. Like there's flashbacks, 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: there's they replace scenes but completely redo them, so you 107 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: get information that you didn't get in the original movie 108 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: and you go, oh, so that what was really happening 109 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: in that scene? And so that probably takes away from 110 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: what this movie could be. 111 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: The togas and leather straps probably tell us enough. You 112 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: probably gonna it's implied and so and so, and. 113 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: They try and pigeonhole Paul Mescal into being another Russell Crowe, 114 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: which is just bad. He has a lot of a 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: lot of skills and talents as an actor on his 116 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: own merits. Don't make him do the inspirational conversations. And 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: I mentioned at the top that you know, we can 118 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: rattle off the quotes from the original movie. So I've 119 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: now seen Gladiada two twice. Yes, I cannot tell you 120 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: one single line that Paul Mescal says. And there are 121 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: moments where he gives the big speech like and he 122 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: repeats this line a couple of times in the movie. 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: I've now seen him do it four or five times. 124 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: Couldn't even tell you what the line was. A particularly 125 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: blood thirsty. Oh yeah, there's a lot of blood. And 126 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: the spectacle is incredible. So even though some of the 127 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: dialogue is actually really pretty average, the specticle is amazing. 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Like he does Paul Mescal's Lucius fights killer babboons, which 129 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: is the Yeas shave the. 130 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Lions able. 131 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: I don't remember feed the Christians to the based on 132 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: these baboons. It would work different, very scary. Are they 133 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: fight a rhino as a rhino? 134 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: Really? 135 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: And they flood the Colosseum, which apparently did happen back 136 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: in the day, and it's filled with sharks that probably 137 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: didn't happen. I think maybe, I think maybe really jumped 138 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: the shop. It's a bit er does a roll up. Yeah, 139 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: so I think. I think there's probably a few moments 140 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: where I think got a bit carried away. Yeah, it 141 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: was that budget. 142 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: How many here we go of waking Phoenix's actual thumbs? 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Are you giving it? 144 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to give it. I don't have enough 145 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to give it three thumbs up to borrow 146 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: one of yours. So it's solid, not spectacular. It is 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: a spectacle, though, Take your popcorn, get a previous cinema. Yes, 148 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: you know you won't hate it. Good afternoon, Maybe not 149 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: the one. They're going to make another one. Can you 150 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: believe he really really wants to make a third one? 151 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: And so that's part of the problem as well. 152 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: Right billion I don't want to, you know, try and 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: being distracted by setting things up the next one 154 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: Going to say how many baboons bottoms then but anyway, 155 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: then the event