Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast, Happy Tuesday, tenth of October
Speaker 1: on Today's show, Papers as rocks, paper rock, rock, paper scissors.
Speaker 1: Either way, eat my aus. We're going to get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of that. And there's a video of it
Speaker 1: on social media. Hopefully you find it entertaining.
Speaker 2: MAMMAE can I listen to Flex and Frooms Flex and
Speaker 2: froms Okata.
Speaker 1: We have heard the jokes okay boomer okay, boomer boomers
Speaker 1: XYZ boomers x y z. It's time that we redress
Speaker 1: this inequality miss ag ism and look at the facts,
Speaker 1: the hard facts, and that is that Gen Z people
Speaker 1: are being scammed at a higher rate than boomers as now,
Speaker 1: can you believe it?
Speaker 2: Flex? That is very surprising to be growing up with
Speaker 2: the Internet, to be so savvy on how the Internet works,
Speaker 2: learning all these micro languages and different ways of being
Speaker 2: to interact with people, and you're getting scammed at a
Speaker 2: higher rate.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They've just overtaken older Australians as the nation's most
Speaker 1: financially impacted age demographic, so Gen Z age between eighteen
Speaker 1: and twenty five are most likely to fall for these scams,
Speaker 1: with twenty three percent of zoomers revealing their personal information
Speaker 1: or money has been swindled when using an online marketplace.
Speaker 1: Not marketplace, just say marketplace, just say it so. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, scam has managed to swindle over three
Speaker 1: billion dollars from Australians, with Gen Z millennials emerging as
Speaker 1: the primary targets even though they're considered more tech savvy.
Speaker 1: That's an eighty percent raise on the year prior. Washing
Speaker 1: scams top the list eighty percent, remote access scams, threats
Speaker 1: involving life for arrest, identity theft scams, employment related scams,
Speaker 1: online shopping scams, and classified add scams. They all add up. Obviously.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking straight away Facebook, Mark club Place with There
Speaker 1: was a little period about six months ago where a
Speaker 1: guy would be like, Yeah, I want to buy this thing,
Speaker 1: and then my cousin's coming in ten minutes, like can
Speaker 1: you wire me the money or something.
Speaker 2: I understand those text based phishing skills where you think
Speaker 2: you're getting a text message from oz Post about your
Speaker 2: new package, you clink the link to follow the follow
Speaker 2: the tracking. I get that. You know when you get
Speaker 2: a text message from someone pretending to be the ato
Speaker 2: pretending to be medicare pretending to whoever like those ones
Speaker 2: feel like, oh okay, I can understand everything else though, hmmm,
Speaker 2: so what do we do with this information? For me, be.
Speaker 1: Cautious of deals that seem too good to be true.
Speaker 1: Bargains are enticing, but if something is advertised as an
Speaker 1: unbelievably low price, verified its authenticity. This happens in my
Speaker 1: experience with home wears online. Like you'll see a beautiful
Speaker 1: lamp on TikTok or like in the side of an
Speaker 1: article and you'll click it. This has happened to my mum,
Speaker 1: and it was something that I sent her. So I'm meditated.
Speaker 1: I have been a victim of the scam, victim by proxy.
Speaker 1: Exactly was her money. You typically shouldn't have to and
Speaker 1: you feel stupid when that happens.
Speaker 2: I can't relate, but I imagine you will. I have.
Speaker 1: I had, actually like second embarrassment. You typically shouldn't send
Speaker 1: money to receive funds. That sounds obvious, but there have
Speaker 1: been times where I have almost been enticed. Banks generally
Speaker 1: do not require you a little.
Speaker 2: Bit of trade. If you send me five hundred dollars
Speaker 2: of you a thousand dollars gift card.
Speaker 1: Just buy this Semmon gift card off me. Okay, exercise caution.
Speaker 1: We're making electronic payments because PAYID is a legitimate payment method.
Speaker 1: It's managed by banks. So if something goes all right,
Speaker 1: you won't receive an email asking like verify your pay ID.
Speaker 1: You will never get that from a bank. Verify the
Speaker 1: credibility of the buyer or seller. So if they've got
Speaker 1: no profile information, you can probably assume that something's not
Speaker 1: quite right. Scrutinize what you're asked to download A click,
Speaker 1: oh our download stuff?
Speaker 2: Willy nilly, do you know what the thing is? I
Speaker 2: think this is a consequence of not having enough distance
Speaker 2: from the Internet and tech because everything we watch kind
Speaker 2: of gets filtered with the same eyes entertainment. I don't
Speaker 2: think that we're trained enough to view to be discerning
Speaker 2: about information individually, because how we use our phone is
Speaker 2: mostly allegedly. We trust a lot of things that come
Speaker 2: from it. It's our source of oneness and entertainment. I
Speaker 2: think when you get a bit of distance, like, for example,
Speaker 2: when someone sends me a screenshot and says, hey, is
Speaker 2: this sus I could immediately be like, oh, wait, yeah,
Speaker 2: that doesn't look right to me. Getting some distance in
Speaker 2: this stuff really helps. But also people need to I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say people need I found it helpful
Speaker 2: talking more. What I say by this is like, for example,
Speaker 2: talking to a friend the other day who got a
Speaker 2: text message from TNT Express. We've been talking for weeks
Speaker 2: about like how we're not shopping as much and being
Speaker 2: more mindful of purchases. So I was like, why would
Speaker 2: you get a message from TNT when you hadn't shopped
Speaker 2: for anything. It was a scam, but you think I
Speaker 2: might have the goodye that I forgot about. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm saying, because we talked more, she was able to
Speaker 2: be like I knew what she was doing in her life.
Speaker 2: I knew because imagine if you're here, like I'm furnishing
Speaker 2: a hap, you don't tell me he's getting scam left,
Speaker 2: right and center. Now a steple, check what you been
Speaker 2: looking at recently? How's that going?
Speaker 1: What I do is when I order stuff, I'll write
Speaker 1: it a list in my phone. Just this the final thing,
Speaker 1: which is actually a call to action of what you
Speaker 1: guys can do if you are falling victim to a scam.
Speaker 1: Reported to the A Triple C's scam Watch websites or
Speaker 1: website called scam Watch.
Speaker 2: I've done this, really, did I not tell you?
Speaker 1: No, babe?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Really quickly. So when I was finishing
Speaker 2: my Hope Art House, majority of what I bought I
Speaker 2: either got handmade or I got it from Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 2: But then I kept getting these ads to one of
Speaker 2: those really cool like interior design companies where everything is
Speaker 2: like computer computer rendered and not real, but it come
Speaker 2: up heaps off and I saw other influencers promoters. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, surely it must be real. I bought
Speaker 2: a big amount of stuff and they'd even set me
Speaker 2: like progress photos of it being made. But then it
Speaker 2: just never came. After months, and I would call them,
Speaker 2: call them, call them. Then they would call me and
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, yes, it's it's coming coming.
Speaker 2: And then one day I was like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna like storm the office. No, storm the office.
Speaker 2: It was apparently in Surrey Hills. When I went to
Speaker 2: go check the address, it wasn't in Surrey Hills. Their
Speaker 2: land light and disconnected the whole thing anyway, So then
Speaker 2: I reported them to the A Triple C. This whole thing.
Speaker 2: I remember I was at Hayman Island luxury resort doing this.
Speaker 2: I feel like a baddy slay. Anyway, fully reported them
Speaker 2: to a Triple C. The racy either contacted them and
Speaker 2: then they refounder the money straight away. Yep, okay, so
Speaker 2: you can get a refund. Well, not from a Triple C.
Speaker 2: The scammers were like, we wasn't a scam. We were
Speaker 2: gonna deliver it to you. You just like you blew
Speaker 2: out loads blah blah blah. But then I was like,
Speaker 2: give me the money.
Speaker 1: Bob, give me the bloody money. Paper scissors rock. It's
Speaker 1: as old as time itself in terms of brokering deals
Speaker 1: in the playground and beyond. I was in New York
Speaker 1: the other day. It's giving freaking flyer. For some reason,
Speaker 1: around this big table of like ten people, we decided
Speaker 1: to do paper sciss as rock. I don't remember what
Speaker 1: we were rocking off, but we did it.
Speaker 2: Even that term rocking off, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it sexual? Isn't it? No?
Speaker 2: Please continue?
Speaker 1: I want to know. So I said, paper scissors rock.
Speaker 1: I put it on my story. Why am I getting
Speaker 1: blowback in the DM.
Speaker 2: Because I'm already confused with how you're approaching this topic.
Speaker 2: Very serious, to be honest. Okay, well, it's scissors paper rock.
Speaker 2: Paper scissors rock was never what it was. It's scissars
Speaker 2: paper rock. You're crazy scissors paper rock.
Speaker 1: Why would it be scissors paper rock.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't it be Caissar's paper rock.
Speaker 1: It's paper scissors rock.
Speaker 2: It's serious. It's a gradation. It's like slow picking up speed,
Speaker 2: like climax. That's the vibe siss paper rock. It's climactic,
Speaker 2: goes up. It's not papers rock. That's very brutish for you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add a little bit of a cultural context
Speaker 1: lens to this glancation because it is uncreated. You guys
Speaker 1: are from New South Wales, corect and that's quite literally
Speaker 1: New South Wales thing. Every single person who says is
Speaker 1: paper rock. I got on the profile Sydney moti A
Speaker 1: give him monibil prima score paper scissars rock. But here's
Speaker 1: a few other techniques very suggested Scissar's paper rock, like
Speaker 1: the deep.
Speaker 2: Let's just play a game three two one go paper.
Speaker 2: This is cross cultural barriers.
Speaker 1: They do crop up from time to time on the show.
Speaker 2: Mickey, Let's play ready three to one. Go cissus, paper rock,
Speaker 2: get out. That's fluid.
Speaker 1: Okay, come on, so you get girl.
Speaker 3: Paper okayper three okay, ready three to one, goss Rock.
Speaker 2: Get to the bar and there it is, and there
Speaker 2: it is. It doesn't work. It was always paper rock.
Speaker 2: It doesn't need more than one.
Speaker 1: Go anyway, Guys, tonight go home to your family and
Speaker 1: play the game and see the hurt larity ensue you
Speaker 1: with friends on.
Speaker 4: Cater Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for flexies.
Speaker 2: Big question of the week, I ask you a question.
Speaker 2: It would be like a moral dilemma or something that
Speaker 2: has been just tickling at the edges of my brain
Speaker 2: and I just want to know what you think and
Speaker 2: why you think that way. So this question in particular
Speaker 2: is a little secret one from a new edition of
Speaker 2: my conversation card game Reflex. It's the fourth game, and
Speaker 2: I really ate with this question, So listening is open comprehension.
Speaker 2: Hats on. The question is if it was possible to
Speaker 2: love every single person in the world like you had
Speaker 2: the capacity to love them romantically, platonically, professionally, how would
Speaker 2: you then pick your partner if you knew that everybody
Speaker 2: was really an option? How would you pick me? Well,
Speaker 2: I'm just posting the question, don't answer, just yeah. I
Speaker 2: see you thinking though and I like that. What I
Speaker 2: will say is that we are going to post this
Speaker 2: question as well on our Instagram story. It's flex and rooms.
Speaker 2: You can put your thoughts, in your feelings into the
Speaker 2: question box in particular, and then on Thursday we're gonna
Speaker 2: reveal all of your answers and see if there's like
Speaker 2: a common denominator. I have a feeling. Actually no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna faint. I'm gonna try. They're gonna pick, well, oh,
Speaker 2: you're gonna pick with your heart, your mind, and your soul.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what I think on Thursday?
Speaker 2: Okay, because I don't want people to listen to this
Speaker 2: and just steal your answer.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what happens.
Speaker 2: It happened. Alagiarism is real, It's very real.
Speaker 1: Forty five Actually good Tinder Bios. There's an article from
Speaker 1: Cosmo that our dear Mickeyani has brought in to make
Speaker 1: my life easier. And we wanted to look at these
Speaker 1: because I think they're actually bad. And here at the show,
Speaker 1: we'd like to make sure that our listeners are informed
Speaker 1: and up to date with everything of how to not
Speaker 1: or how to live a life well lived, I'd say, okay,
Speaker 1: if you want a funny bio, this article says, the
Speaker 1: best quality you can have is my girlfriend being able
Speaker 1: to tell me what moved your show. That one actor
Speaker 1: is from on board, second one not from a family
Speaker 1: that runs five k's on holidays. If I love that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. This is really I think this is just
Speaker 1: as important as asking someone if they're a Simpsons person,
Speaker 1: because it will dictate how much you guys have in common.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that was my religion growing up free,
Speaker 1: seeking something casual, like a life altering love affair that
Speaker 1: forever shifts our understanding the world, in our place in it,
Speaker 1: and makes us question the very nature of love it self. Again,
Speaker 1: nothing serious. I don't want anyone talking about love or romance.
Speaker 1: I want to see Yeah, I want to see you
Speaker 1: do it in real such exactly four. We could talk
Speaker 1: to our therapists about one another controversial take.
Speaker 4: I saw you tick that one and you like that. No,
Speaker 4: you are the same person said not to mention therapy
Speaker 4: on dating. I'm ticking it off, saying done. I don't
Speaker 4: have to say that out loud again, we.
Speaker 1: Could talk to out the about each other. I don't
Speaker 1: want to know. Okay five, if you haven't a side
Speaker 1: about me about the social dynamics of the party we're at,
Speaker 1: I'm not interested.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: And that just means that you're not interested in a
Speaker 1: otherpological things, which is not cool in our show. Here
Speaker 1: are some edgy bios.
Speaker 2: Are they giving these us these bios as in like
Speaker 2: repurpose them because they they're good?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, But that's the issue with dating apps is that
Speaker 2: when you scroll through all of these bios of seemingly
Speaker 2: different peoples, they're all like poor versions of the one
Speaker 2: you saw just before. And you know, you know, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is like it's a sixth sense,
Speaker 2: but you can match someone's humor, especially internet humor, to
Speaker 2: what they look like and the photos that they're showing you.
Speaker 2: It's all a specific language. And I know when someone's
Speaker 2: plagiarizing their jokes, yeah, you know, because like people are
Speaker 2: so good at being charismatic virtually in a way they
Speaker 2: can't alsen back up in real life. And I see
Speaker 2: it too many times.
Speaker 1: You're see it right now, you know, it's no, it's
Speaker 1: not true.
Speaker 2: You're so charming. But you see those people, they know
Speaker 2: the right memes to use, the right photos to use,
Speaker 2: the right emojis to use, and then you meet them
Speaker 2: in real life and you're like, oh, you were putting
Speaker 2: on a mask and you didn't even know, and it's slipping.
Speaker 2: It's slipping. Please read out some more.
Speaker 1: I definitely do masking other ways, so don't worry. It
Speaker 1: happens to the best of us. Sorry, but I actually
Speaker 1: don't care that much about your dog. No, that is
Speaker 1: a horrible that's rude. Even that's rude. Even I know
Speaker 1: that's rude. Really mean, we could ruin each other's lives together.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested.
Speaker 1: That's very twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: And you're telling in yourself with that one. You're really
Speaker 2: telling yourself.
Speaker 1: Looking for someone who will never ever suggests we go
Speaker 1: on a hiking date. Just tell me you dried up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you want to trying new things. I
Speaker 2: personally want to go hiking, but you know, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Gonna write it down. I like a girl that goes
Speaker 1: to the gym. Okay, I'm not looking for someone to
Speaker 1: ruin my life for me, So I'm looking for someone
Speaker 1: to ruin my life me so I don't have to
Speaker 1: do it for myself.
Speaker 2: Weapon I know, I don't like these self deprecation ones.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is what is the what
Speaker 2: is the theme for these ones? Because they all have
Speaker 2: the same negatively geared approach and it's not funny.
Speaker 1: It's giving like the opposite of lady in the streets
Speaker 1: freaking the bed. It's like you're freaking the streets and
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Scared speaking the streets and liked in the sheet.
Speaker 4: Off this.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a couple more than I'm going to
Speaker 1: end it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a threat.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a great one.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: This is if you're like, I'm not a very funny person,
Speaker 1: but you want a combo starter, seeking new songs for
Speaker 1: my commute, hit me with the best from your playlist.
Speaker 1: If you're a straight woman and you're looking for.
Speaker 2: An artie boy that I know, is this a new
Speaker 2: mating call.
Speaker 1: No, not for me, babe.
Speaker 2: This is you know you've you've said last time that
Speaker 2: like it's really boring to hear about people's dreams if
Speaker 2: you're not in them. I don't want to hear about
Speaker 2: I don't want a music recommendation randomly, especially when someone
Speaker 2: hasn't made an assessment about it, like you haven't already
Speaker 2: seen my listen to someone just like raw, Hey, listen
Speaker 2: to these five songs? No, that's twutes? What how are
Speaker 2: you making that assessment? I don't want to hear. I
Speaker 2: don't want music recommendations from strangers. All right.
Speaker 1: The last one confident Bios. This is for when you're
Speaker 1: not afraid to show on what you got, okay, and
Speaker 1: what they'll be missing if they wipe left a threat.
Speaker 2: They're missing saving money on therapy.
Speaker 1: All right, This is the last one. Don't swipe right
Speaker 1: unless you've been to therapy, please and thanks. All right.
Speaker 1: My final word on this whole saga that has taken
Speaker 1: at least ten minutes off my life, Well, it literally has,
Speaker 1: because I took about ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Just be yourself, you Frooms. It's really been listening to
Speaker 2: the Flex and Frooms Daily podcast.
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