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Speaker 1: yesterday morning. Now recovery efforts are ongoing, is what a

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Speaker 2: Good morning to your Chief Minister.

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Speaker 3: Morning Katie, the morning listeners.

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Speaker 2: Now, Chief Minister, what is the latest on this situation?

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Speaker 4: So Katie, firstly, I'd just like to acknowledge the family

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Speaker 4: We do see the Marine Rotation come through the territory

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Speaker 4: each year and they integrate themselves into our community. They

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Speaker 4: So they are in a unique way part of our

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually a really good point that you make,

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Speaker 1: But the fact here is they are marines that are

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Speaker 4: And that marine rotation has been coming through the territory

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Speaker 4: I can say, Katie and I will be getting fully briefed,

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Speaker 4: We had helicopters taking people from the crash site directly

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Speaker 1: So at this point in time, we know that the

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, one person was in a critical condition and

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Speaker 4: They didn't know the numbers of casualties that they would

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's been a massive effort from everybody

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Speaker 3: That is where the crash took place.

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Speaker 1: So was it near any any local infrastructure or where

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Speaker 3: No, that's not my understanding.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll certainly put in a request to speak to them.

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Speaker 4: So Katie, there is a notification process that the US

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Speaker 4: We've been in constant contact with the US consul here

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Speaker 1: Now we are seeing more and more exercises here in

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, we know that here in the territory we've

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Speaker 3: Else do we require in catering for that.

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Speaker 1: And so that's part of the discussions that you're going

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Speaker 1: And presumably the discussions are going to change what following

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Speaker 4: So Katie, it's very early days. I'll be of course

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Speaker 4: seeking some advice. You know, I had anticipated to head

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Speaker 2: So it may even be that it doesn't go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Katie, I'll just follow advice. I think it's too

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Speaker 2: No, I agree. I think that you know we are

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Speaker 1: I know where you're receiving all of those briefings after

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, before I do move on to Parliament resuming tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Hats off to all of our medical professionals, you know,

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Speaker 4: So Katie, just to think in the space of less

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I do want to move on to other

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Speaker 1: You've written to the Opposition leader Leofanocchiaro to confirm that

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Speaker 1: standing orders are going to be suspended so the petition

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Will that debate happen for longer than sixteen minutes?

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Speaker 4: But essentially we usually suspend the standing orders, but the

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Speaker 4: But in this case we were the government that allowed

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Speaker 1: So what kind what do you mean by a more

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, I think every member if the Parliament should

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Speaker 2: Petition for more than three minutes or two minutes.

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Speaker 3: And I think Katie, that the time length.

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Speaker 4: You know, we need to be conscious of lots of

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Speaker 1: I mean you're the Chief Minister, surely you can say

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Speaker 2: Surely you can make that happen.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And the other conversations that I was having with

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Speaker 3: He enacts the processes.

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Speaker 4: So we were having those conversations and they're continuing just

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Speaker 4: and yes, every member of the Parliament will be able to.

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Speaker 2: Speak, and that will be tomorrow morning, Katie.

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Speaker 4: That's what I've indicated publicly is that will bring that

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Speaker 1: Now, when's the government going to announce the knife crime strategy.

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Speaker 2: So it was going to be today.

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Speaker 3: I was going to step out this morning.

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Speaker 4: Always like to do those things before I talk to you,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: We might try to speak to you or somebody else

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Speaker 2: You are going to hear.

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Speaker 1: I've no doubt that there'll be local members who are

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, we take that petition incredibly seriously and we'll

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Speaker 2: So potentially changes.

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Speaker 4: So Katie, we always ensure that we continually monitor these situations,

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Speaker 2: All right, Chief Minister, we better leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time, and no doubt

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Speaker 1: we'll be receiving some further information throughout this morning, following

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Speaker 3: Thank you take care