1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, earlier this morning we started getting calls here at 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: the station about people escaping Howard Springs quarantine facility, and 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: we can now confirm that that police investigations underway following 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: reports of several people absconding in the early hours of 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: this morning. The Territory Police are searching for three people 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: who escaped from the Center for National Resilience. They say 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: at four forty this morning, it was reported that three 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: people from the center scaled the fence and fled the area. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Now police are currently well confirming the absconder's identities along 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: with those staff from the Center for National Resilience. Joining 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: us on the line right now is Kezia Puric, the 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Independent member for Goida. 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: Good morning, Kezier, Oh. 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie. Yes, I believe that three of the 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: young people from the center have absconded. I think it's 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: the word which is not good. 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: No, it's not good. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: What is I know you're in parliament right now, but 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: what is the feeling from those that live in the 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: rural area at this point. 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: Well, they're pretty frustrated, you know, look, of course, and disappointed. 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: Of course, no one would want to be put away 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: for two weeks. You know, without much fun and joy, 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: and you know you've got to put a television if 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: that's about it, and you know, even the adults you 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: want to get out there, but you know, if something 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: has to be done for the for the benefit of 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: the whole community, and the fact that these young people 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: are just you know, I think about sixteen or something, 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: you know, blatantly not thinking about anyone other than himselves. 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: It's just disappointing. And I don't think we can blame 32 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: the center specifically. I don't think we need to put 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: bar wire up and everything that's just been suggested. I mean, 34 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: that's not going to that's not going to solve the problem. 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: The problem is they are taken there for their own self, 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: for their own benefits, for their health, benefits of their 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: social well being, and that then the social and the 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: safety of their community, their fam and members CA. 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've not been told at this point in time 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the ages or anything of those people who have absconded. 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: It sounds like you might have some further info. 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 3: Well, I best I understand that they're sort of low team, 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: so I don't know where they'll go. I mean, if 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: I was a teenager and I've been getting out of 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: hot boarding school. I'd make a bee line with a 46 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: bright light pat. So I'm sure the police have got 47 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: their intel and they'll be working on it as we 48 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: speak to them up and take them back. 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: What about this morning in terms of getting into the city, 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I know that that cars are obviously being stopped at 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: a roadblock and some of those cars being searched. 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that did happen, and it was happening probably it's 53 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: probably not happening so much now. But the intersection of 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: Whitewood Road which comes off the sorry, How's things Road 55 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: which comes off the highway and then what would road 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: goes to the shops, they were stopping cars there and 57 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: checking them to see you know, that's gone being papish 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: to ride with someone some kind person he said, oh ea, 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: I needs need to ride to town. But I understand 60 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: the traffic flow now because I was talking to someone 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: out there. So you know, the police are just doing 62 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: what they're doing, trying to find them, and that was 63 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: just one avenue of action to try and find these 64 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: young people because I don't know what their data is 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: and no one else does, and that's what the concern is. 66 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: And I just hope that they have a negative and 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: a dis to their well being and sitting out for 68 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: two weeks. 69 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's the worry at this point 70 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: in time, is that we don't actually know whether they're 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: COVID positive or not. We're all hoping to find out 72 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: some further details sooner rather than later. So there's you know, 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: if it's all good, we don't need to worry. 74 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 3: I think we'll find either the Health Minister or the 75 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: policemmisis will probably come out very soon and to just 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: give a status report, just to bring some calm and 77 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: calm to the community so that it doesn't take off 78 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: like a wildfire that's balancing trouble, which I don't believe 79 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: it would be. But let's wait and see what the 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: authorities have to. 81 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: Say now, Kezier. 82 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: We know that Parliament is sitting at the moment, and 83 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: obviously we learned yesterday that those the public gallery would 84 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: not be opened, the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly making 85 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the decision to ban the public from watching in the 86 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: chamber for the rest of sittings after she was made 87 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: aware of intelligence from the Northern Territory Police. 88 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: A bit of a worry. 89 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's only a way in so much as if 90 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: the police have got intelligence, then there is something there 91 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: that one must consider seriously. Now I pointed out to 92 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: someone this morning, open galleries and apartment are not a right. 93 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: It's not a right for people to come in and 94 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: have the luxury of sitting in the gallery and watching parliament. 95 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: It's a privilege. So it's not the first time galleries 96 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: have been shut here. I shut the galleries for different 97 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: reasons or clear the galleries when there are people in 98 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: there protesting, and it was inappropriate. So I don't think 99 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: people should get to hang up on you know, the 100 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: speaker is saying, oh, the galleries are close. The speaker 101 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: has taken the sound advice from the police that there 102 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: are some risks and the one way to manic this risk, 103 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: if not eliminated, is to close the public galleries. People 104 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: can still see parliament on the internet stream. There's big 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: screens in the in the usually in the main hall 106 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 3: where they can watch, or I can just ring one 107 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: of their local members to find out what's going on, 108 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: if that's what they're so interested in. I mean, let's 109 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: be honest, Katie. When these galleys are open, Depending on 110 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: the on the debate, A dozen or so people top 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: the school goods. 112 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: I was going to say, they don't get that full, 113 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: do they Easier? 114 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: No, they don't such a big interest in them. What 115 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: it would have been before today? 116 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Hey, before I let you go, Keasier, I am keen 117 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: to just ask you. On Friday, you and I obviously 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: on the week that was you were discussing the fact 119 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: that you're a bit concerned about the vaccine numbers in 120 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: the rural area and we're questioning how that info was 121 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: being gathered. 122 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Have you had much insight yet? 123 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: No? I have written for Health Minister. What it is, Katie, 124 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: is your vaccination status is based and used for your 125 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: Medicare card. Now your Medicare card comes to your mailing address. 126 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: And my mailing address is well nearly and my post 127 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: code is zero two one. So what I'm asking that 128 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: ministries has there been a miscalculation of the number of 129 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: rural people who are vaccinated but their mailing address and 130 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: therefore the registration of the vaccination status is not in 131 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: the victual council boundaries. So most people in the rural 132 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: air don't. There's no mail service, all right, it's rule. 133 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: So I've got a letter box at an urban setting, 134 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: whether it's the GPO Palmerston were nearly like myself, or 135 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: some other urban setting like how it springs and they 136 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: live at Elizason Valley for example. So I've asked the 137 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: minister because I don't as I said to you, I 138 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: don't accept and I don't believe that the Rule Air 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: vaccination status is as low as what they're saying, and 140 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: that is probably the reason. The other reason is some 141 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: of the residents in the Rule Air have a postcode 142 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: zero eight double two, which means their mail goes to 143 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: a mail bag. So you know, it just could be 144 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: one of those glipses in the system that people didn't 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: know about. So I've asked me and I'll chase up 146 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: today during parlent to say we need to get disordered 147 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: because people want a home quarantine in digital Council boundaries. 148 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: So if there's a glitch in the system, we then 149 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: need to work it out. Well, ma't know how it 150 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: can be addressed, but I'm going to chase the ministerin 151 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: today this type of residence who wanted home. 152 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Quarantine, wells let us know how you go. We are 153 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: going to have to leave it there. Always good to 154 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: catch up with you thanks so much for your time today. 155 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Thank you