1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Days, 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: insensitive clapback. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: At women struggling with fertility. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Kyrie Harvey's soft launches a new puppy just weeks after 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: revealing she rehomed her dog, and Olivia Math's desperate. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Plea to find her stolen cat. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: But first, Sammy Robinson has soft launched her new man 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: during a Mexican muckbunk. Now, this mukbunk took place in 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: her new Guys car, but Sammy cleverly angled the camera 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: so it was only her in the shot. We did 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: get to see his arm and also a very fleeting 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: shot off the top of his head. We also did 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: briefly get to hear his voice and see them interact 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: as a couple, and it is clear that they're pretty 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: comfortable with each other because they were dressed in matching 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: gray tracksuit tops and Sammy was literally holing into a 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: large burrito at one stage she had sore stripping from 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: her mouth, and they also shared the burrito back and forth. 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: So this seems like it's been in the works for 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: quite some time. There is a level of comfort that 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: you have when it's a boyfriend and not just someone 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: you're seeing. 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: That's pretty intimate to share a burrito. As much as 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: I love my husband, I don't think i'd share one 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: with him. 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I think it shows how early on they are in 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: this relationship, because once you've been going out with someone 30 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: for a few years, you're definitely having set for burritos 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: and you're not sharing. Yeah, you're like, those are my chips, 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: don't touch them. There's that sort of thing going on. Well. 33 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: This video has attracted over eighty one thousand views, with 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: her fans wanting to know more about the mystery man. 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: One follower wrote who is this man? Sis, whilst another 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: said don't hide the man girly, we want to know, 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: and another said she's a relationship girly, which I have 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: to agree with. I mean, if you're Sammy Robinson, I'm 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: sure it's not hard to get into a relationship. 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: She's absolutely stunning. 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure there is a line of guys waiting outside 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: her door wanting to ask her on a date. Soft 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: launches are really changing since TikTok because preview it was 44 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: really a soft launch, it was maybe a guy's arm 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: on a table in a photo of you at a cafe. However, 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: this guy is fully in the video. 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: He's talking. Yes, you can't actually see his face, but 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: this is a clear message from Sammy, I am in 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: a relationship because you're not putting this type of content 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: out with just anyone. I do love that when someone 51 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: soft launches a relationship, how quickly you can turn into 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: an FBI agent and analyze someone's content to just try 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: and find anything out about who this person is. I've 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: probably watched this video a little too closely because I 55 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: have ascertained that this guy's name potentially starts with a W. 56 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: So in the video, his hands are shown on the 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: wheel of the car as he goes through the drive through, 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: and he is wearing a friendship bracelet with the letters 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: S and W on it. So I am assuming that 60 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: this is a very cute couple bracelet, and the S 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: is for Sammy and potentially the W is for his name. 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: She clearly likes cute couple of things like that, because 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: last time she hard launched her relationship, she shared that 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: they had a special personalized key ring made and it 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: was a photo of them kissing on it. Yeah, that's 66 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: clearly been burned by now. 67 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think she'll probably drop a few more 68 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: clues like that on her Instagram story. I did go 69 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: and search Sammy Robinson's friend list for any guy's name 70 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: starting with a W, and I have spired one guy 71 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: called Will. I won't be saying his last name because 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: it could be incorrect, but I have an inkling. I 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: think the top of his head looks the same as 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: what we saw. 75 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: In the TikTok and A were assuming that Sammy made 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: the bracelet for him. Oh, I reckon that would be 77 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: very cute. 78 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: Acknowledging that nine to nine point nine percent of you, 79 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: I'm not these crazy people, these crazy obsessed people that 80 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: actually make me feel uncomfortable. I'm like, well, we'll get 81 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: a hobby. 82 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has issued an insensitive clap back at her 83 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: followers struggling with fertility. After announcing her third pregnancy last week, 84 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Sarah says she was inundated with messages accusing her of 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: baiting a fertility battle. In a four minute ran on 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: her Instagram story, she labeled these women as obsessed and 87 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: fixated on her even telling them to get a hobby 88 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: that didn't revolve around her. Kate, can you tell us 89 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: more well? 90 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Sarah took to her Instagram story on Monday to address 91 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: the backlash around her pregnancy announcement, and she said that 92 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: she needed to shut it down quickly because it was 93 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: annoying and made her feel uncomfortable. She then said this. 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: For the past few days, I've received so many DMS emails, 95 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: comments like there's two separate people, there's like frustrated people, 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: and then people who I don't know where this they're 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: getting this. 98 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: Narrative from anyway. 99 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: I just replied to a bunch of dms and I'm like, 100 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna nip this in the bud now because 101 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 4: people are like, I'm so triggered that you created content 102 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: and vlogs saying you're not pregnant when you were. 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: The content Sarah is referring to is a vlog that 104 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: she uploaded on the eighth of February entitled Live catch Up, 105 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: Being Vulnerable Again and Updating You on life Now. It 106 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: was the last video in a short YouTube series she 107 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: shared about her can journey, and in the vlog, she 108 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: explained that she was in her fourth month of trying 109 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: to conceive. This is what she said. 110 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: As you know, we have been really casual in trying 111 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: to conceive. However, it's our fourth month now trying, which 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: for some people is nothing like I know people have 113 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: tried for years. 114 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 5: Again, I talk about that and reference that in my 115 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: previous blog, so just stay with me. But for us, 116 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: because we conceived Malkai on the first try, from going 117 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: from like first try baby to the fourth month, it's 118 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: something we've never experienced before. 119 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: Feels nice to like bring you along on this journey 120 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: and just feel really open and vulnerable about what we're 121 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: going through at the moment. 122 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 5: So it's fine and like I'm not stressed about it, 123 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 5: but I don't know, like when you decide you want 124 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: to have another baby, it's like. 125 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: Hard for not to consume your thoughts, you know. 126 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Sarah then went on to say that she knew it 127 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: was a sensitive topic and she tried to tread carefully 128 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 2: so she didn't upset anyone or was insensitive. Now. Later 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: on in the vlog, she discussed how she and her 130 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: friends are in their seat of trying to fall pregnant 131 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: and are consumed with it. She then said, this. 132 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: Don't want this to be a stressful experience for us, 133 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: because I have no reason to think like that at 134 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: the moment. You know, like, who knows how long it 135 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: took us to conceive Fox because he was a love baby, 136 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: but Malicha, we got him on the first try. So 137 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to overthink it, like it's 138 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: all in God's plan. 139 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: I truly believe that. 140 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: I've really been praying that God has his hand on 141 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: this pregnancy. Anyway, I'm just rambling now and just chatting 142 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: to you like I would my sister. Just want to 143 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: be more vulnerable with you guys, I guess, and like 144 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: really take you along on what I'm going through week 145 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: by week. 146 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: So back to Sarah's clapback, she addressed this vlog specifically 147 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: and explained that she actually did fall pregnant that cycle. 148 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: She said when she filmed the vlog, though, that she 149 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: was in the weight period and got her ovulation wrong, 150 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: so thought she wouldn't fall pregnant. She then went on 151 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: to say, this. 152 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 4: So we actually end up I got a positive pregnancy 153 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 4: test at like the end of feb or something like 154 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: in feb. So this was actually filmed in January. This 155 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 4: flog is filmed at the end of Jan and it 156 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: goes up on the eighth of Feb. 157 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: Now, the timing has confused many followers, particularly because she 158 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: uploaded the vlog as a life update, but then has 159 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: come out and said that the content was pre recorded. 160 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: Now back to Sarah's Instagram stories. She also addressed allegations 161 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: that she claimed she was struggling to get pregnant, saying this. 162 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: Lastly, while we're on this topic, i got this random 163 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: DM yesterday saying, I'm really disheartened that you claim to 164 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: struggle to get pregnant this time. We've never claimed to. 165 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: We didn't struggle to get pregnant. We got pregnant on 166 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: the fourth try, which we feel so grateful about. The 167 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: only time I've ever used the word struggle is in 168 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: relation to some close family members and close friends of 169 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: mine who are struggling and have struggled to get pregnant. 170 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: So I mentioned that in a vlog that I want 171 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: to be as open. Well, I wanted to be as 172 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: open as I could during our trying to conceive journey, 173 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: but while being respectful because now that I am really 174 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: close for people who are on that journey, I'm just 175 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: so much more sensitive that we are in such a 176 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: greatful we're in such a blessed position to be able 177 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: to for pregnant naturally. 178 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, we've never struggled to for pregnant with this baby, 179 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: like it took us four times. But yeah, the only 180 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: time I've used the word struggle is in relationship one 181 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: of my friends and family who has struggled. Anyway, just 182 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: some nipping that in the butt now, because it's like 183 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: making me angry. Guys, relax, everybody, just flax now. 184 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: I was pretty taken aback by that because Sarah's YouTube 185 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: channel back in twenty sixteen and seventeen revolved around her 186 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: bid to balance her hormones, her PCOS diagnosis, and trying 187 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: to get her period back. So, for those who aren't 188 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: familiar with PCOS, it stands for polycystic ovary syndrome and 189 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: it's a complex hormonial condition that affects about one in 190 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: ten women. And there are a range of symptoms associated 191 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: with PCOS, including irregular menstrual cycles, acne, and reduced fertility. 192 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: And I think what is most interesting about that is 193 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: that Sarah really attracted a large audience by being vulnerable 194 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: and sharing about her journey with PCOS, which included giving 195 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: a ton of holistic tips to resolve symptoms. And so 196 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: she still has that loyal audience of women who were 197 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: also struggling with their fertility and have gone on this 198 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: journey with her. So that is why there are so 199 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: many people up in arms over there. 200 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: And at that time, she shared with her audience that 201 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: it would be hard for her to conceive and when 202 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: the time came to have children, it was likely she 203 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: would have to go down the IVF path. So it's 204 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: likely a lot of her followers from that time struggled 205 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: with the same issues as her. Yeah, I do find 206 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: it wild she would make such a claim when her 207 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: YouTube channel literally holds all of the receipts. So just 208 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: five months ago, during a vlog about her latest conception journey, 209 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: she said this, if you've. 210 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: Been here since like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, you may 211 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: know that Fox was a love baby. First of all, 212 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: I got told by a gynocologist and multiple doctors that 213 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: I would probably never fall pregnant naturally, and even IVF 214 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: for me wouldn't be a sure thing because I had 215 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: polcistic ovarian syndrome. I was pretty affected by that, obviously, 216 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: thinking that I would never conceive naturally, maybe never have kids, 217 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: like I had no idea. 218 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: And then when Sarah announced her second pregnancy in twenty 219 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: twenty one, she said this. 220 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: Although I had been pregnant three years earlier, our sun 221 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: Fox was a complete surprise, as I had been told 222 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: by our doctors that due to my hormonal imbalances and 223 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: PCOS that falling pregnant naturally was highly unlikely. 224 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: So with this being the last. 225 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: Fertility related news I had been given, I tried not 226 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: to get my hopes up too much and just be 227 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 3: prepared that it may take us a while to conceive again. 228 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: And even when she announced her most recent pregnancy, she 229 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: tried to set this tone that the journey wasn't easy 230 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: for her. Let's throw to what she said. I don't 231 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: think there's a line, but the fact that I'm filming. 232 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: Means that, like every other month. 233 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 6: I have subconscious hope hoped it down that maybe maybe 234 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 6: this is our month. 235 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: That I get a positive pregnancy test. 236 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: If things couldn't get worse. Sarah then took aim at 237 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: the women who were triggered by her content. She labeled 238 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: the women as obsessive. Let's throw to what she said. 239 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: Also acknowledging that nine to nine point nine percent of 240 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: you are not these crazy people, these crazy obsessed people 241 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: that actually make me feel uncomfortable. I'm like, well, get 242 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: a hobby, get a hobby. Make your hobby, not me. 243 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: And anyway, yeah, obviously I know this is not majority 244 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: of you. It's like the smallest group of people. 245 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 4: But we know the smallest voices in the room make 246 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: the loudest noise. If my children had anything. 247 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: To go by, the smallest voices in the room make 248 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: the loudest noise. 249 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: So for some context, this outburst was off the back 250 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: of a comment Sarah received on a recent Instagram reil So. 251 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,479 Speaker 2: The follower was upset that Sarah said she was struggling 252 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: to conceive after three months and said it was tone 253 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: deaf to women like her who were actually struggling with fertility. 254 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: The woman wrote, and the audacity to put struggling while 255 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: already being pregnant. When posting that, the woman went on 256 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: to say she was a longtime fan who wo had 257 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: watched Sarah's videos from day dot now. Sarah hit back, 258 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: saying she never once said they were struggling to conceive 259 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: and confirmed they got pregnant. The fourth month of trying. 260 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: She went on to explain that she had mixed up 261 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: her ovulation day in the vlog, but confirmed she did 262 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: end up conceiving that month. Sarah finished up by writing, 263 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: please do not spread false information. Not once have I 264 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: said we have struggled to conceive this baby. It is 265 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: clear the timeline of Sarah's posting has confused a lot 266 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: of people. As the follower responded, the videos say they 267 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: were posted two months ago, which would be March, and 268 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: touched on struggling with TTC, whether that has been emotionally 269 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: or physically, and the comment section is full of women 270 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: with infertility. So I felt uncomfortable that we all felt 271 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: we related to and felt sorry for something that was 272 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: actually fine behind the scenes. Perhaps YouTube is displaying the 273 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: posting time frame wrong. Happy to send a screenshot of 274 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: it if you need it, genuinely not trying to spread misinformation. 275 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: Just found it upsetting the way it unfolded with no 276 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: trigger warnings, etc. For such a huge topic. Now, Sarah responded, respectfully, Hannah, 277 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: if you're clearly as fixated and obsessed with this as 278 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: you appear to be, check the date of the vlog 279 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: and maybe get a hobby that allows you not to 280 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: have the mental time for fixations and false narratives like this. 281 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: Not once did I say we struggled. We got pregnant 282 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: on our fourth month of trying and are so grateful. 283 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: I was open about feeling hopeful certain months after having 284 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: pregnancy symptoms, but my tests were negative. It's okay for 285 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: me to be disappointed with negative tests. However, not once 286 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: did I say we were struggling to conceive because we didn't. 287 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: I cannot believe that Sarah would label a woman who 288 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: has struggled with fertility as fixated and obsessed. The lack 289 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: of empathy is truly disturbing, particularly when Sarah shared so 290 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: openly how consuming her own own pregnancy journey was. You 291 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: think that she would relate to this woman in a sense. 292 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: I really felt for this woman because she outlined to 293 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Sarah that she's been a longtime fan of her, She's 294 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: been following her journey for about ten years, and she 295 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: was pretty considered in what she wrote to Sarah. I 296 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: think she was trying to explain to her why her 297 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: community of followers is hurting so much by her announcement. 298 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I'd hate to see what she'd actually write to someone 299 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: who is considered a troll. 300 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: Well, I saw a lot of people alleging that Sarah 301 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: has been sending out a lot of very rude dms 302 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: and that the tone is even worse than this one 303 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: that she publicly left to this woman. Well, this comment 304 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: did end up getting deleted. But what really blows my 305 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: mind about this whole thing is that instead of taking 306 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: the feedback on board from her followers and women who 307 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: were struggling with their fertility, she's instead decided to attack 308 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: them publicly. Like, I don't understand. Why didn't she acknowledge 309 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: these women's feelings and just apologize. It just shows all 310 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: her disclaimers that she added in about not wanting to 311 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: upset anyone and being sensitive just virtue signaling, because it's 312 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: quite clear by her reaction that she doesn't care who 313 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: she upsets. 314 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, because if she had jumped on 315 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: her Instagram stories and just said I am so sorry 316 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: if I offended anyone, that was not my intention at all. 317 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: I feel so much for women out there who were struggling. 318 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: I have been there in a situation where I thought 319 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I may have difficulty conceiving. 320 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: But I've been so lucky. 321 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would have been like 322 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: fair enough well, particularly because she opened up about the 323 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: fact that her sister and also friends were struggling with fertility. 324 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: I wonder how they feel after seeing that outburst on Instagram. 325 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: She's kind of acting like a stroppy teenager. Like it's 326 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: as if she doesn't realize she has a huge following 327 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: and a massive brand, and the followers are actually the 328 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: people who were giving her this amazing life. Like obviously 329 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: she's worked hard to put this content out there, but her. 330 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: Followers, who have paid for her courses and have paid 331 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: for her clothes, they are allowing her to have this 332 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: amazing life, and all she's. 333 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: Doing is constantly attacking them and saying, you're obsessed with me. 334 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: You put out a vlog every week, you're on your 335 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: stories every week. You want people to buy into your life. 336 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: But she's also not understanding the parasocial relationship that people 337 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: have developed with her over ten years. So for a 338 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: follower who, as you said, Amy, feels like they've supported 339 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: her and brought into her life, for them to receive 340 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,119 Speaker 1: a rude DM or a rude public message would. 341 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: Actually be very crushing because they feel like Sarah is 342 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: their friend and they're just bringing up with their friend. 343 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Hey, I don't think you've handled this, and. 344 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: She wasn't even rude. That follower was not rude at 345 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: all the whole friend thing. Sarah has built this brand 346 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: on calling her followers her sissies, and in one of 347 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: her vlogs where she spoke about her conception journey recently, 348 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: she said, Oh, you know, I just love opening up 349 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: on my vlog because I feel like I'm talking to 350 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: my sisters. So you can't then hit back at followers 351 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: when they feel like they are your sister and complain 352 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: when they feel like their sister hasn't treated them properly. 353 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: And this whole commentary around get a better hobby rather 354 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: than obsessing over me really rubbed me up the wrong way. 355 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: It's like, do you realize that people watching your content 356 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: as their hobby is paying for your bills. It does 357 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: seem to be Sarah's new thing to label people as obsessed, 358 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: because we recently discussed how problematic it was for her 359 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: to return to the trend of sharing what she eats 360 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: in a day, and we posted a TikTok video about it, 361 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: and she hid out at us in the comment, saying, 362 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: your obsession with commenting and scrutinizing my life is honestly 363 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: getting uncomfortable girls. Now, I think this comment proves she 364 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: doesn't have a comeback for her behavior. Why doesn't she 365 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: ever acknowledge what the video is about? I was like, 366 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: you're obsessed with me? Yeah? We did follow up writing, Hi, Sarah, 367 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: You're one of many influencers who we discuss on our 368 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: pop culture podcast. As one of Australia's biggest YouTubers, the 369 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: content you put out to your millions of followers sparks 370 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: conversations around the world. Sometimes we agree with you and 371 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 2: sometimes we don't. In this instance, you discussed how your 372 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: previous What I Eat in a Day videos reflected a 373 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: time in your life when you were practicing disordered eating. 374 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: What concerns us is those videos are still up online 375 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: for vulnerable people to see and are monetized. While you 376 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: might not be in that mindset anymore, your old content 377 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: is still being served up to vulnerable women who will 378 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: copy what you used to eat in the hope of 379 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: obtaining your body. Just wondering if you've thought about taking 380 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: those videos down now. Sarah, of course did not respond 381 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: to that question. 382 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Her comment had very mean girl vibes, and I would 383 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: have respected it more if she came back to us 384 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: explaining why she feels a day on the plate still 385 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: has a place in society, not just said that we're 386 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: obsessed with her and how dare we talk about her 387 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: life when she literally puts it out to millions of people. 388 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: It would be nice for her to take accountability for once, 389 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: And it does concern me that she was clearly filming 390 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: this what I Eat in a Day video while she 391 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: was pregnant, so no doubt it's going to be what 392 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: I Eat in the day as a pregnant woman, which 393 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I think is even more unhelpful. And I think what 394 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: added to the grossness of this whole thing is the 395 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: fact that she literally timed the promotion of her pregnancy 396 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: workout guide with her pregnancy announcement. Think Sarah really needs 397 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: to reflect on the fact that she has millions of 398 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: followers on Instagram and YouTube, and she should be using 399 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: her platform to be empathetic and considerate of women, particularly 400 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: those who are struggling with their fertility. 401 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 7: Put a thing you down. If someone stole your cat, 402 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 7: you found out who it was and confronted them. They 403 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 7: denied everything. Have so many inconsistencies in their story and 404 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 7: it's all still ongoing. 405 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: Gold COO's influencer Olivia Mathers has issued a desperate plea 406 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: to anyone with information about her beloved Bengal cat Hawky, 407 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: who was reportedly stolen over a week ago. This story 408 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: is so sad, Sophy, can you tell us how it's 409 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: all unfolded? This story does have quite a few twists 410 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: and turns, and it all started when Olivia received information 411 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: from a neighbor that her cat, Hawky, had been dropped 412 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: at the pound. So the neighbour's dad had allegedly found 413 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: Hawky wandering and decided to drop the pedigree cat at 414 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: the pound. Now here's what Olivia said about the exchange 415 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: with her neighbor. 416 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 8: The chick said, I made sure my dad went there. 417 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 8: I watched his location, I watched his location leave this 418 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 8: their house and followed his location to the pound. Because like, 419 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 8: why would you say that? That's so dodgy? 420 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 6: All right, I reckon they're trying to sell. 421 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 8: This is getting sass as fuck. So the lady who 422 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 8: said that her dad's dropped Hawky to the pound said 423 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 8: that she was dropped off on Saturday at lunchtime, the 424 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 8: lady that works here at the pound said that no 425 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 8: one dropped off a cat on Saturday. These people who 426 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 8: have taken Hawky three days ago, four days ago are lying. 427 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: As you can hear from that grab. Olivia and her 428 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: mum raced down to the pound to be told by 429 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: staff that no Bengal cat had been dropped there. 430 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: This led Olivia to confront her neighbor via text. She 431 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: explained to her neighbor that the pound had no information 432 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: on a Bengal cat, and to confirm what day Hawkey 433 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: was dropped there, and also to confirm that she was 434 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: at the right pound now. The neighbor replied confirming the details, 435 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: but when Olivia asked for her to send through her 436 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: dad's contact details, her story suddenly changed. The neighbor wrote, Hi, 437 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: I've talked to my father and. 438 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: He didn't tell me. 439 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: But as he went to take the cat out the car, 440 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: it escaped and he freaked out and didn't tell me. Now, 441 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: this message came through four days after Hawky had allegedly 442 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: been dropped at the pound. 443 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: It's very suss that the dad would have only just 444 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: mentioned this news. Now what what the fuck? 445 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: This pisses me off so much, it's clear something more 446 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: is going on. I feel so heartbroken for poor Olivia. 447 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: Hawky is such a beautiful cat, and she keeps posting 448 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: these really sad videos of her and the cat together. Yeah, 449 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: he has been by her side since she moved out 450 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: of her family home and into her new place. And 451 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: he is a very striking cat. As people know Bengal cats, 452 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: they have that sort of tiger print and pure bread. 453 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Bengal cats are in very high demand, so they can 454 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: fetch upwards of two thousand dollars. So that is what 455 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: makes this disappearance so fishy. I do like that Olivia 456 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: is using her very large following to her advantage. So 457 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: she has over seven hundred and sixty thousand followers and 458 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot of influencer friends, so she's essentially been sharing 459 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: this lost cat post that it's gone everywhere. It's been 460 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: popping up on all of these influences I follows Instagram stories. 461 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Well it's not just a lost cat post. She says 462 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: that this cat has been stolen. So in the post, 463 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: it says, my cat has been stolen and we believe 464 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: the thieves are. 465 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: Trying to sell her. 466 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: She also urged her followers to keep an eye out 467 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: on marketplace or just in general. If anyone is trying 468 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: to sell this cat online, surely one of. 469 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: The big news stations is going to pick up on this. 470 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: This is such a good. 471 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: Story if the Daily Mail has so far, and also 472 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: the Gold Coast Bulletin, so hopefully it will lead to 473 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: some information. 474 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: It did lead to a number of. 475 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: Blue ticks reaching out in the comments set so fitness 476 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: influencer Ashy Bindes shared that she had gone through something similar. 477 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: She wrote, I'm so sorry you're going through this. Will 478 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: continue to share my heart breaks for you. Someone stole 479 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: my cat years ago and I never got him back, 480 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: so I know the feeling and it's gut wrenching. 481 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: Sending you strength. When I saw this unfolding online, I 482 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: was wondering if this was targeted, because Olivia does share 483 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: about her cat openly online and as you've touched on, 484 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: it is an expensive cat. However, Olivia has actually pointed 485 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: the blame at her neighbors, saying this. 486 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 6: All right, I'm going to show with you guys as 487 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 6: much as I can about this whole situation without getting 488 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 6: myself in trouble. But I just know it is completely 489 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 6: eft up. There's no doubt in my mind that my 490 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 6: neighbors have stolen my cat, and I washolding information of 491 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 6: her current whereabouts. The two interactions that I had with them, 492 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 6: their stories were so inconsistent. They also kept making mention 493 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 6: of how much she was worth. They're deflecting hard, being defensive. 494 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 6: Apparently the last time they saw her was on the driveway, 495 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 6: yet they don't want to prove this with the camera 496 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 6: that faces their driveway. 497 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, as she outlined, the most frustrating thing is that 498 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: these neighbors actually have CCTV outside the front of their house, 499 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: so they could clearly try and prove their so called 500 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: story about discovering this cat and taking him to the pound. 501 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: But obviously they have something to hide. It's so frustrating 502 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: because what are you supposed to do in this situation. 503 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be wanting to call the police, but 504 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 2: there's not really that much they can do. 505 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: This has set me off, like the thought of someone 506 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: stealing your pet. It's one of the most distressing things 507 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I can think of. 508 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: I'd go around and kick the door open. I'll be like, look, 509 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm here for Hawky. Well. The sad thing is she's 510 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: such a young girl. 511 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: She probably doesn't, you know, feel comfortable getting herself into 512 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: a situation like that. I think there's three to four 513 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: people living in this house and it's just her living 514 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: on her own. 515 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: And the thing is the cat might not be there anymore. 516 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: They may have already sold her. It's just disgusting. 517 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: She is currently offering a cash reward for anyone with 518 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: verified information about Hawky's disp appearance or for his return. 519 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: She's been putting up all of these posters in her 520 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: area with the heading stolen, and on the poster she 521 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: did actually list her email address and phone number, and 522 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: some followers were concerned, thinking, oh my god, so many 523 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: people are going to be hitting up Olivia just trying 524 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: to talk to her. It is not her real number, 525 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: someone else's number putting it out there. But I mean, 526 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: even I hope from us talking about it, maybe someone 527 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: has information about this cat, because. 528 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: I really hope that they get reunited, and hopefully someone 529 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: just drops it off in a box on her doorstep, 530 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: no questions asked, because the last thing you want is 531 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: someone to panic and to do any sort of harm 532 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: towards this cat. They just need to return it. 533 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 8: You gotta pet. 534 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: You got a responsibility. 535 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: If your dog is lost, you don't look for an 536 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: hour then call it quits. 537 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: You get your ass out there and you'll find that dog. 538 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: Kyrie Harvey has soft launched her new puppy less than 539 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: two weeks after confirming the news that she rehomed her 540 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: assie doodle Socks. The latest update in the saga upset 541 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people. 542 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: Kate, Yeah, people are not happy, especially considering the murkiness 543 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: of the timeline. So it is unclear when Kyrie rehomed 544 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: her original dog, Socks and when this new puppy arrived. 545 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: What we do know is Kyrie confirmed the news of 546 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: the rehoming on the twenty fourth of April after being 547 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: bombarded with messages from her followers after the dog suddenly 548 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 2: disappeared from her account. Now, so can you refresh people's 549 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: memories on the reason why Kyrie rehomed the dog well. 550 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: In the statement, she cited the dog's size as one 551 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: of the main reasons that she decided to rehome him. 552 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: She also said that the dog's safety was a concern 553 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: and cided that they couldn't stop him from climbing over 554 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: their fence and getting onto the road. And she finished upriting, 555 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: we planned to adopt a much smaller breed that will 556 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: fit into our family's lifestyle. I hope that you respect 557 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: that as a family, we did what's right for us 558 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: and also ensured Socks was safe and love too. 559 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: Now, last week we did discuss how there were conspiracy 560 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: theories floating away that the family had already adopted a 561 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: cocker Spaniel. At the time, super Sleuth had spotted that 562 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: Kyrie had started following cocker Spaniel breeders pages, and it 563 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: appears those theories were one hundred percent correct because on Tuesday, 564 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: Kyrie uploaded an Instagram story promoting eye patches with a 565 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: new Cocker Spaniel puppy in the frame. She was self 566 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: launching that dog, a little bit like how Sammy Robinson 567 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: was soft launching a human she minus the Mexican both adorable. 568 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, it is interesting that she hasn't 569 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: hard launched the dog. Do you guys think that she will? Well, 570 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: probably not after what she's copped for doing the soft leantun. 571 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: I kind of feel for her because she did outline 572 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: that they still had the intention of getting another dog. 573 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: She does have three kids who are most likely heartbroken 574 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: that their other dog has had to be rehome. The 575 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: kids didn't make the decision that it was too difficult 576 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: for him. The kids wouldn't been doing anything. 577 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of people have been saying, why 578 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: is this cocker spaniel any different? Well, as someone who 579 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: has a cocker Spaniel, they are very difficult as puppies. 580 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: Like the first six weeks with my dog Archie, he 581 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: was a complete handful. So I wonder if they're like, 582 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: oh my god, I didn't realize that it would be 583 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 2: like this. This is why people are upset because the 584 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: inference is that this woman has such a perfect life 585 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: on Instagram. She shares all about her. 586 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: Perfect table settings and her perfect children and a perfect home, 587 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: and this Aussie doodle obviously didn't seem to fit into 588 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: her life. So there is the concern that, well, when 589 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: this puppy starts acting up and starts chewing the couch, 590 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: you know. 591 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: Is she going to get rid of that. I think 592 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: where she's got herself in hot water is this wording 593 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: around adopting a new dog. Because when I saw that, 594 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, so she's going to make good. 595 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: She's going to go down to the pound and give 596 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: a dog that needs a new home, a new lease 597 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: on life. It's going to be a very positive story. However, 598 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: she's gone out and purchased a new pedigree dog, and 599 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: it also plays into this narrative online that she just 600 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: cares about image. 601 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but in her defense, I feel like I'm the 602 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: only one defending her that I obviously think that people 603 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: should be adopting from pounds where that they can or 604 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: animal welfare leagues. However, she has literally said that they've 605 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: had to rehome this dog due to the fact that 606 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: it was too big and potentially could get out of 607 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: their yard. So if you're adopting a dog where you 608 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what the breed is, you don't know 609 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: what the characteristics are. Maybe a dog that has been 610 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: abandoned for you know, behavior for getting too no, but 611 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: but for behavioral issues, and you've got young kids, sometimes 612 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: it can be difficult. Sometimes you want to go a 613 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: pure bred dog that you know what the characteristics of 614 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: that dog are going to be. 615 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: And a cocker Spaniel is a real family dog. Yeah, 616 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: but a cocker Spaniel is not a small little lap dog. 617 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: It is still a medium sized dog. And she hasn't 618 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: addressed whether she has fixed any of the issues that 619 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: she flagged as reasons to rehome Socks. So she said 620 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: that a big reason was the dog safety because it 621 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: could get out. Because it did they didn't have adequate fencing, 622 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: So why is it not suddenly a problem for this dog? 623 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: And she also spoke about behavioral issues. But anyone who 624 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: has had a puppy will know that you need to 625 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: put a lot of time and effort into training that dog. 626 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: So has she changed up her schedule to allow for 627 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: that time. I have to disagree with you, kay, I 628 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: think that a cocker spaniel is a lap dog if 629 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: they are the sort of dog that follows you around 630 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: the house. They're very chill and calm. Yeah, but that 631 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: might be your dog, but that doesn't mean every cocker 632 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: spaniel is the same. And I just think she needed 633 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: to leave a bit of time in between announcing that 634 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: she rehomed one dog to getting another dog. It seems 635 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: quite likely that she had this cocker Spaniel when she 636 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: put the announcement out, So I just think it is 637 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: not a good look for her, and I'm really interested 638 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: to see how she navigates this moving forward. Is she 639 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: going to hard launch the dog and If she does, 640 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: I would like her to address, you know, what she's 641 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: changed in her lifestyle to have a new dog. I 642 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: love the we're talking about hard launching a dog, but 643 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: I think that is. 644 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: Where we are going to leave things today. 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