1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Heading across right now to catch up with Saint John 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Ambulance Director of Ambulance Services Andrew Thomas. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Andrew. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 3: And very good morning to you Katie. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Now I know by the. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Look of it not I mean, obviously always a busy 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: weekend for you guys, but no significant responses to report 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: on for the weekend. However, much like the police, over 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: the course of the weekend, you guys have again your 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: cruise been attacked while trying to do your jobs. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, Look, Caddie, it's really disappointing at times to 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: have to report on this, but we're continuing to see 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: there's piece sort of aggressive behavior and unacceptable of behavior 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: being demonstrated towards our paramedics and clinicians out on the road. 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: And you know, over the weekend, our crews are extremely 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: busy going to lots of lots of cases in terms 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: of medical cases and traumas across the whole of the territory. 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: And we've ended up now with you know, as it 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: turned at the moment, I've got three staff that they 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: are going to be off work for at least two 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: to three days following some of these events. And you know, 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: one one was a paramedic in Nolan Boy who was 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: punched in the face and knocked out and they know 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: while treating a patient. The paramedics now you know, it 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: was taken to hospital and and you know it's basically 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: going to be off for four days. And I've got 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: a crew in Darlin that you know, it was on 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: the end of some fairly vicious sort of verbal threats 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: and a lot of sort of aggression towards the ambulance itself, 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: not towards maybe the cruise, but you know they're now 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: feeling quite unsafe and so that crew has now come 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: off the road for two nights. So you know, these 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: these type of incidents have a massive impact on our paramedics, 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: you know, both their their their their physical well being, 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: but also their emotional well being. You know, they're out 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: there trying to do the right thing and liver of 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: the care that that that that you people need, and 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: then when they sort of the incident happened, it just 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: really plays plays on them. And then we've also seen 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: in our springs over the weekend as well. You know, 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: we've had a two crews at different circumstances. I've had 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: you know, people lash out of them. One of them, 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: you know, fortunately that the crews weren't injured, but they 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: needed to withdraw and withhold treatment. The other one had 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: had their their their mobile phone broken and whatever else 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: is part of that sort of assault of this. There's 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: a number of occasions and we're continuing to keep springing 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: this cading. It's really disappointing that, you know, the cruis 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: are feeling it out there when they're trying to do 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: their job. 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: It's appalling. 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: It's absolutely appalling, like that paramedic being punched in the 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: face and knocked out in Nolan Boy, that's terrible. 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, as I said, and you know, we've we're railing 55 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: around with you know that the the the paramedic was 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: has been well looked after, and we've been calling up 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: with them and you know, they were taking the hospital 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: and assessed. Unfortunately, they're making a good physical recovery and 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, we'll work with them. But as I said, 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 3: you know, it's also the psychological impact that it has 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: on our crews. You know, they they're out there trying 62 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: to do the right thing and sometimes, you know, we 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: understand that sometimes you know, in high emotional states that 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: patients and relatives get can be quite distressed in that 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: part of the way of showing care and wanting to 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: wanting things happen. But you know, any level of sort 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: of threat or violence towards paramedics or you knows, as 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: us the police and other healthcare workers, it's just not acceptable. 69 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: It's really not Now, Look, Andrew, I don't want to 70 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: put you in a difficult situation, so please back this 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: question away if it's not something that you're in a 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: position to answer. But you know, we've been speaking this 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: morning as well about the sentencing when it comes to 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: assaulting frontline workers. 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean, does like does that need to be increased. 76 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: Look, I think it's you know, it's a really difficult 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: question to sort of probably put an answer to it. 78 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: So it's about, I suppose, it's about trying to make 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: sure that when these sort of things happen that the 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: people who have been impacted feel safe. And sometimes that's 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: just about knowing that there is a process been going 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: through and you know, and we as an organization fully 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: support any of our staff taking the appropriate action for 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: any level of occupational violence that they might be exposed to. 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: So we support the process and it obviously it goes 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: into into a system. Once it gets into that system, 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: obviously that then forms part of you know, the judicial system. 88 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm probably not going to comment necessarily 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: on those of the things, but you know, you know, 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: we encourage that our staff do report these things and 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: we go through that process and it allows that to occur. 92 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: Now, look, the thing that's probably more disappointed than anything 93 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: today is the fact that it's actually International Paramedics Day. 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I want to be we want to 95 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: be celebrating the work that our incredible Saint John's staff do. 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: It's appalling that over the course of the weekend they've 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: then been subjected to people sort of assaulting them, attacking. 98 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: Them and what they've gone through. 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: But you know, I really do want to highlight the 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: fact that our paramedics, all of those staff at Saint 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: John do an incredible job under what, as we've just 102 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: heard this morning, can be really difficult circumstances. 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it is International Paramedic Day, and you know, 104 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: it's an opportunity to acknowledge the sensational work that our 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: paramedics particularly do. But they're not only our paramedics, our 106 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: patient transport offices, our communication staff and even the sort 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: of the support staff behind that that you know, be 108 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: able to deliver that care. And you know that our 109 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: paramedics and while we're talking around these sort of you know, 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: unfortunates and over the weekend, you know, in the last 111 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: year or so, our paramedics are probably attended over sixty 112 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: thousand cases and individuals where they're delivered care and that's 113 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: everything from bringing babies into the world to you know, 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: leieving pain and suffering and dealing with trauma and then 115 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately supporting sometimes people we in their times 116 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: a Greek so they know parameds do that in all 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: types of weather conditions, environments across the territory and you know, 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: today to be able to sort of really acknowledge the 119 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: amazing work that the staff do. And as the director, 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm extremely proud on the professionalism and the work and 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: the care that our paramedics provides to the Northern Territory 122 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: every single day. 123 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely well. 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if you see paramedic today, if 125 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: you happen to be at the coffee shop at the 126 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: same time as them, shout them, maybe shout them a 127 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: coffee or at the very least thank them for the 128 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: wonderful work that they do. I know that so many 129 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: of our listeners are very grateful for what Saint John 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: does and our paramedics, as you've said there you pace 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: and transport officers and all of the staff as well 132 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: that take the calls. I mean, it takes a lot 133 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: of work and a lot of dedication and you've really 134 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: got a care right to be able to look after 135 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: people when they're in their hour of need. 136 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that's the thing that really 137 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: shines through with all of our staff is it is 138 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: that sort of absolute care and compassion that they bring 139 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: to work every single day. I think it's one of 140 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: the things that our paramedics and our staff love is 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: it is that sort of bit of unpredictability in the 142 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: role that we do. But it's that ability to be 143 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: able to get out when someone's having a really really 144 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: bad day and being able to care for them and 145 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: make an impact on their life. And so I think 146 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: that's obviously something we want to obviously acknowledge today that 147 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: that's what they're doing. 148 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: Willson John Ambulance Director of Ambulance Services, Andrew Thomas always 150 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thank you very much for the work 151 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: you do and for your time this morning, No problem. 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: Katie, have a great day you too,