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Speaker 1: I lost shops today. It's a real Perth institution in

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Speaker 1: the actually all of WA really because there were stores everywhere.

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Speaker 2: There were a.

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Speaker 3: Few independent grocers around, but I think the one that

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Speaker 3: was probably the most famous was Charlie Carter's, absolutely prominent

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Speaker 3: West Australian supermarket chain operated from nineteen twenty nine through

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Speaker 3: the nineteen eighties, known for the slogan where your dollar

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Speaker 3: buys more.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Plus there was Charlie Carter's Cheaper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't forget that one. You know what actually goes

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Speaker 1: back a little earlier than that, because it was actually

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Speaker 1: named by a bloke called Charlie Carter. Yeah, it goes

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Speaker 1: back to actually nineteen fifteen that he started a store

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Speaker 1: on Hay Street in Perth, operating as a grocer, flour

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Speaker 1: miller and a wine and spirit merchant. I reckon that's

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Speaker 1: where most of the margin was in that area, and

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Speaker 1: then it became it took off, became a change. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if that Hay Street store is the one that

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Speaker 1: was there almost till the end. I remember it just

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Speaker 1: down the road from Cinema City on Hay Street.

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Speaker 3: See I don't remember Charlie Carter's is the.

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Speaker 1: City at all. But yeah, and of course that were

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Speaker 1: unique too because they had the wooden floors.

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Speaker 3: Yes, very nice. I was just having a look on

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Speaker 3: Lost Perth at a newspaper ad from nineteen seventy three

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Speaker 3: for Charlie Carter's nurses Cornflower eighteen cents. Well, rosella rosella

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Speaker 3: pickles or chutney thirty eight cents.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad, that's not bad at all.

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Speaker 3: Ajax twenty four cents, fifty two cents for some yogurt.

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Speaker 1: Did anything crack a dollar?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just looking at something that's twelve cents. It's

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Speaker 3: icing sugar.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, bog.

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Speaker 3: Of icing sugar isn't that expensive these days? But twelve cents.

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Speaker 1: Ray on the Facebook page says Arlie Carter's at Edenhill

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Speaker 1: shopping set of ninety nine cents a kilo for sausages,

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Speaker 1: even they didn't cost a dollar. Loved the paper bags

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Speaker 1: because they were nice and thick, and he used to

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Speaker 1: make flickers for his bicycle. Of the rooms, absolutely that sound,

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Speaker 1: and carl I actually talking about the wooden floors. Carlo says,

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Speaker 1: the smell of the wooden floorboards is still with me

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Speaker 1: all these years later.

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Speaker 3: We got a message from Alan, who said, Hi, I'm

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Speaker 3: surprised you guys are old enough to know about Charlie Carter's.

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Speaker 3: Lisa's twenty one, so she must have heard from her grandparents.

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Speaker 1: Alan, I love you. That must make nineteen or twenty.

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Speaker 3: In my house, dad had the newspaper delivered, so after

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Speaker 3: he'd gone to work on a Thursday, Mum would take

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Speaker 3: the paper and the notepad and start looking at the

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Speaker 3: specials at Charlie Carter's. Later it was in the car

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Speaker 3: and down one Who Road to Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Carter's opposite dog Swamp.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and then it was home to unload the paper bags,

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Speaker 3: cardboard boxers and maybe open or we maybe an open

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Speaker 3: we've elon shopping back.

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Speaker 1: The paper bags. See, you know there was a fight

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Speaker 1: to get those back. Charlie Carter's were environmentalists.

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Speaker 3: Before their time. Well you know when they argued about

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Speaker 3: getting rid of the plastic bags, which I didn't understand.

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Speaker 3: Why they just bring back the.

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Speaker 1: Paper on remember and when we were younger anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even though you're only twenty, Allen.

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Speaker 3: Says, the paper bags would go into the incinerator.

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Speaker 1: Okay, environmentally your memories of Charlie Carter's, what did you got.

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Speaker 1: What did they have that others didn't? What did you

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Speaker 1: go there? Specifically Dutch case.

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Speaker 3: Remember a Dutch cake. We used to always get this

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Speaker 3: on a Saturday afternoon. The Dutch cake had had the

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Speaker 3: it had like a pastry base, a bit of jam

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Speaker 3: on it, then a cake and then this fluorescent pink

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Speaker 3: icing and it was.

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Speaker 1: Just the everything.

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Speaker 3: And you just can't get that anymore unless if anyone

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Speaker 3: knows anyone that does a Dutch cake like that like

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Speaker 3: they used to do. Yeah, at Charlie Carter's the seventies,

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Speaker 3: let me know.

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Speaker 1: Can't get those rickety floorboards anywhere anywhere, No even supermarkets,

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Speaker 3: We're talking about. Hey, you got a text from Kelly

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Speaker 3: in five and he said, my mum used to make

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Speaker 3: Dutch cakes with the pastry bottom and the candy pink arsting.

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Speaker 3: Should make it in a baking dish. So it lasted

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Speaker 3: more than a day, put last more than the date.

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Speaker 1: At my place.

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Speaker 3: They were the bomb.

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Speaker 1: They were.

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Speaker 3: They were so good.

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Speaker 1: Vanessa on our Facebook page. Back to the floorboards. Charlie

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Speaker 1: Carters in calamunder your old neck of the words had

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Speaker 1: rickety floorboards. Unfortunately got pulled down became action and now that's.

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Speaker 3: The very one that we used to get the dutch

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Speaker 3: cake from.

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Speaker 1: There you go the rickety floorboards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul in June Love, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: How what memories of Charlie Carter's yo.

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Speaker 2: I used to go and buy my dad's cigarettes for

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Speaker 2: him when I was six or seven on fifty five

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Speaker 2: now and yeah, eighty five cents and that's just incredible

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Speaker 2: to think they're like what ninety dollars now feel.

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Speaker 1: Red and they don't have to go and unlock a

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Speaker 1: great big safe to get them anymore.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, change, we'll get a dollar note and the

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Speaker 2: fifteen cents change to get your twin pole.

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Speaker 3: And oh fifteen cents, well, I mean you'd get three

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Speaker 3: coppers for five cents.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, you can actually get

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Speaker 1: yourself with a half decent sized mixed bag of dollies.

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Speaker 1: You could very well.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to go next door to the chip shop

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Speaker 2: for that. They used to sell the big mixed bags lollies.

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Speaker 2: Always get the one with a mustick, not the red skin.

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Speaker 3: Mustics all the way. And those mustics were the hard

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Speaker 3: ones that you could sort of spin round in your

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Speaker 3: mouth to get it like a five point on.

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Speaker 1: Well, half the lies, half the lollies have had to

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Speaker 1: change their names as well. Yeah, good like getting a

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Speaker 1: red skin now, mate.

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Speaker 2: Got ditched as well.

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Speaker 3: Love Spearmint leaf reminds me of my grandmother At Christmas.

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Speaker 2: There was rock hard, too much sugar.

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Speaker 1: It's a very discerning all right, all right, thanks mate.

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Speaker 1: We lost lollies, but it was it was all about

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Speaker 1: the pack of fags for for Dad actually used to

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Speaker 1: be who used to be able to buy a little

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Speaker 1: pack of fags?

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Speaker 3: Were kids now were called fads?

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Speaker 1: They probably gone completely. It was fads and then there

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Speaker 1: was there was no red tip on the end. And

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Speaker 1: then someone went wide bother us.

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Speaker 3: So it was just a stick stick fancy selling children

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Speaker 3: lily cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: What were we doing?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't I had him, well I did.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was because of a right Well,

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Speaker 1: so we blame you, Charlie Carters. What do you blame

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Speaker 1: Charlie Carter's for about your childhood and how you grew up?

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Speaker 3: Julie and East Perth, Good morning, good morning morning, Charlie Carter's.

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Speaker 1: What are your.

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Speaker 4: Memories, Charlie Charlie Carter's dog swamp. That was the original

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Speaker 4: dog shopping center really, because that's all there was. My

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Speaker 4: dad had join Dada Pharmacy next door, so we sort

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Speaker 4: of grew up there. Mum would always give them, give

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Speaker 4: Dad the list, he'd drop it in. The girls would

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Speaker 4: do all the shopping during the day, so forget, you know,

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Speaker 4: this online shopping stuff. They would they were pioneers. They

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Speaker 4: would do it all. They'd drop it in at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day and then they'd book it up

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Speaker 4: to us. These supermarkets and delis and things used to

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Speaker 4: book it up. Yes, yeah, there, so they used to

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Speaker 4: run accounts for you.

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Speaker 1: That used to happen a lot in the country. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and then you go in at the end of the

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Speaker 1: month or whatever and settle the bill.

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Speaker 4: That's what we did as a matter of course. So

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Speaker 4: when we were older, were allowed to do the shopping ourselves.

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Speaker 4: So you can imagine this eight year old wrangling a

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Speaker 4: jolley full of groceries down the steep driveway into my

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Speaker 4: dad's shop. So that was quite a challenge. But the

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Speaker 4: girls were lovely and they always had a surprise for

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Speaker 4: us kids. They really boiled.

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Speaker 1: Out at the age of eight. Did you bump into

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Speaker 1: Paul buying cigarettes.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Carter's stocks bomb. I think we're in the wrong.

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Speaker 5: Charlie Carter.

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Speaker 4: Whenever the girls at Charlie's, if they ever had any

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Speaker 4: accidents or anything, Dad used to do all their first aids.

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Speaker 4: So he used to do all the minors, huts and

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Speaker 4: greats and things like that. So that's how the neighborhood were.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is doesn't work like that anymore,

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Speaker 1: that does it?

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Speaker 3: On the tab I love it, Thanks Julie, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, Julie, all right your memories of Charlie Carter's because

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Speaker 1: it was from a very very different time. It was

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Speaker 1: a very different kind of supermarket. Vale from forest Field

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Speaker 1: on the text line has told us that she used

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Speaker 1: to go to the Bentley store because the bag used

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Speaker 1: to go there to get the bags because the bags

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Speaker 1: would end up as school book covers. That's how good

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Speaker 1: that cardboard was with other big bags before contact was

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Speaker 1: a thing. So I guess you'd flip them. Well, you

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Speaker 1: could have Charlie Carter's on the front part or you

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Speaker 1: can just flip it over. I guess yes.

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Speaker 3: Steven east Cannington says, my now ninety three year old

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Speaker 3: dad always had a saying Charlie Carter's help Yourself. Apparently

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Speaker 3: it was an advertising slogan due to have being one

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Speaker 3: of the first to offer supermarket type shopping where you

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Speaker 3: didn't get, you know, someone to get.

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Speaker 1: It for you help yourself something else.

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Speaker 3: These days, if it's Charlie Carter's help yourself, security won't

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Speaker 3: even come after you.

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Speaker 1: Exactly those Paul is in barely a morning, Paul, Hi, Paul,

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Speaker 1: good morning, are good? You'd have strong memories of Charlie Carter's.

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Speaker 5: I do. When I first left school, I actually worked

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Speaker 5: for them in Hamilton Hill.

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Speaker 3: What did you do? Pack people's shopping for bag boy.

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Speaker 5: Look, I used to do a lot of little things.

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Speaker 5: Stacked the shows. Yeah, help the dairy girls in the

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Speaker 5: cour rooms. Oh yes, where I got. I actually got

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Speaker 5: cornered in there one day. Get the ship out of me?

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Speaker 3: You got you got what?

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Speaker 1: Scared the you know what out of him? Scared the gross.

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Speaker 5: I got stuck in there with the young girls who

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Speaker 5: they threw in there with me.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, traumatic for her.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Carter's help Yourself, Paul, Paul, before you go, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know it was.

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Speaker 5: It was the highest paying job for shopkeepers around back then.

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Speaker 5: I was on one hundred and fifteen dollars a week,

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Speaker 5: forty nine years ago.

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Speaker 3: And you get it in a little envelope cash.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad, little little brown, little brown envelope.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, every week, a little mini Charlie Carter's bag,