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Speaker 1: Can I tell you it has been a very busy

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Speaker 1: morning in here. This morning we did indeed have the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister Leofanocchiairo on the show and asked a number

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Speaker 1: of questions about the appointment of the administrator. Now he's

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Speaker 1: in that role already, is what the government tells us,

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Speaker 1: not sworn in until later this month. We also spoke

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Speaker 1: to the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly, Robin Lamley, and

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Speaker 1: talked about the fact that members are not able to

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Speaker 1: ask disparaging questions or speak of the incoming administrator in

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Speaker 1: a disparaging manner. Now, yesterday, as I said throughout my opener,

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Speaker 1: I watched question Time and I thought it was all

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Speaker 1: pretty fascical. In fact, it was disappointing. I think you'd

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Speaker 1: have to say to see that the government seemed like

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Speaker 1: they were actively trying to avoid answering any questions. Now

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Speaker 1: joining me on the line is Justine Davis. She is

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Speaker 1: the Independent Member for Johnston. Good morning to you, Justine,

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Speaker 1: Hey Kay, how are you going really well? Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your time. I know you're very busy

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Speaker 1: this morning in Parliament is sitting Justine, You've been very

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Speaker 1: concerned about the appointment of David Cornoley, haven't you.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, And it's not just me that's been very concerned.

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Speaker 2: There's a huge ground full of concern. I'm being contacted

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Speaker 2: by a huge number of people every single day saying please,

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Speaker 2: we need to do something about this. So yeah, as

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Speaker 2: I said, there's a huge amount of concern about it.

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Speaker 1: Noil, can you tell me what the motion was that

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Speaker 1: you put forward yesterday and what you were hoping to achieve?

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Speaker 2: Yees? So I think I just want to say, first, well,

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Speaker 2: I think you're right in saying that it was fascicle yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. I'm really not sure what the

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Speaker 2: government's trying to hide. I'll go to the motion in

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Speaker 2: a minute. But I asked a very simple question in Parliament,

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Speaker 2: which was just well, actually, what is the Vedding process?

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Speaker 2: You know, territories have a right to know how these

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Speaker 2: decisions are made the Chief mines. She did not answer

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Speaker 2: that question, so we're still in the dark. It's deeply

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Speaker 2: disrespectful to territorians who have a high degree of concern

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Speaker 2: about this to not even let them know how the

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Speaker 2: decision was made. So in terms of my motion, if

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Speaker 2: you're watching Parliament, you would have seen that there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of backwards and forward thing about trying to

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Speaker 2: get wording that was acceptable under the standing orders. So

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Speaker 2: initially I put a motion that said that the asked

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Speaker 2: Parliament to ask the Chief Minister to approach the Governor

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Speaker 2: General Masker to withind the appointment of the of the

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Speaker 2: if he's honor. That was not allowed. I went through

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Speaker 2: several amendments of that, and ultimately the motion asks the

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Speaker 2: Government to ask the Governor General to review the process

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Speaker 2: for the appointment.

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Speaker 1: It had to be Look, I was watching it and

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Speaker 1: I was sort of, you know, my mind was blowing.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously the Opposition was trying to ask some

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Speaker 1: questions more general kind of questions and about social media

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Speaker 1: policies for public servants and that kind of thing. Look, Justine,

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Speaker 1: I interviewed the Chief Finister this morning. She said that

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Speaker 1: she is not going to change her decision despite you know,

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Speaker 1: and that even if she had seen those social media

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Speaker 1: what do you think of that?

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Speaker 2: To have the Chief Minister say that she is excited

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Speaker 2: about someone in this role, that Terry Sorin's are going

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Speaker 2: to love someone in a role who's made public statements

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Speaker 2: like lucky I was too routed to go home and

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Speaker 2: commit domestic violence. I just think it's completely abysmal. He

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Speaker 2: has deeply offended women, deeply offended survivors of domestic violence,

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Speaker 2: deeply offended Aboriginal people are a third about population. How

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Speaker 2: can someone who is in a role and it's not

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Speaker 2: just a ceremonial role, it actually has a very huge

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Speaker 2: operational significance as well. How can someone with who's lost

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Speaker 2: How can someone be in that role in the territory.

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Speaker 2: It beggars belief to me, And as I said before,

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Speaker 2: I think as deeply disrespectful to territory.

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Speaker 1: And well, you know, if the government or the Chief

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Speaker 1: Minister claims that they didn't know about the posts prior,

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Speaker 1: does that suggest that there's a breakdown in process or

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Speaker 1: due diligence as well?

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Speaker 2: From your perspective, What's interesting, isn't it? Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: either they didn't know it about the post, which is

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Speaker 2: what they're claiming. Although I do want to say that

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Speaker 2: even if they didn't know about the post, many of

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Speaker 2: these comments that he's on a maid were in the

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Speaker 2: public space. They were not just in his social media,

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Speaker 2: so there was no nothing hidden about what his views were.

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Speaker 2: He was very open about it publicly. But if they

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Speaker 2: didn't know about the post, what actually is the vetting process?

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Speaker 2: And how can Territorians trust that this government is making

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Speaker 2: decisions that are in their best interest if they're not

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Speaker 2: even going to the very basic level of looking at

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Speaker 2: someone's social media history. So I think that that is

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Speaker 2: also deeply unsatisfactory. And if they did know about the

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Speaker 2: posts and going ahead, as you said, the checking, as

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Speaker 2: you said, the finding and said we're very happy with disappointment,

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Speaker 2: then I think that raises serious questions about what their

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Speaker 2: commitment is to actually representing the people that they're there

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Speaker 2: to represent.

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Speaker 1: Justine, are you going to attend or I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you get invited, are you going to attend his

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Speaker 1: investiture or are you going to like how are you

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Speaker 1: going to sort of react when you attend events that

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Speaker 1: you might be ash with his honor? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think like many people have said that they

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Speaker 2: are not going to feel comfortable to go to any events.

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Speaker 2: Many organizations which the administrator is the patron of them

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Speaker 2: said that they are no longer going to be able

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Speaker 2: to have him as the patron, so it's difficult in

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Speaker 2: that sense to also know how he's going to do

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Speaker 2: his job. I think as you may have been. But

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Speaker 2: I want to let people know that you know, I

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Speaker 2: will do everything I can, which I think is my

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Speaker 2: my community, and so that's trying to do whatever we

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Speaker 2: turn in Parliament within the limited scope that we've now

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Speaker 2: been given. I've also written to the Governor General and

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Speaker 2: sort of meeting with her gus what she might be

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Speaker 2: able to do in relation to this, given that the

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Speaker 2: Northern Churching Government has been very clear that they are

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Speaker 2: not going to listen to territory and done it.

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Speaker 1: Have you had any words back from the Governor General

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Speaker 1: or did you just did you just do that yesterday?

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Speaker 2: I just see it yesterday, So but I will certainly

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Speaker 2: keep you posted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please do justine before I let you go. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the condolence motion yesterday to the victims of the Bondai

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Speaker 1: massacre happened. I mean, it's just been a harp breaking

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Speaker 1: situation I think for everybody in Australia what had occurred

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Speaker 2: Oh? It was. It was very moving. Many members gave

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Speaker 2: very moving condolences, expressions of support for both the Jewish

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Speaker 2: and of the Jewish community across Australia, and you know,

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Speaker 2: made statements committing to inclusivity, to fighting violence, to fighting hate.

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Speaker 2: So I think it was a very it was very welcome.

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Speaker 2: I know there were Jewish people in the in the

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Speaker 2: gallery who felt very supportive by that. It's a horrific,

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Speaker 2: horrific event and you know, we'll have longstanding consequences for

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Speaker 2: people who were affected by it. I was. I grew

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Speaker 2: I was there a couple of weeks ago. I think,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with the sentiment that was expressed

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Speaker 2: by many people in Parliament yeah today that the challenge

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Speaker 2: now is to move forward, to not be a country

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Speaker 2: of division and to make sure that things like this

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Speaker 2: can never happen again.

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Speaker 1: Justin before I let you go, what's on the agenda

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Speaker 1: today for you? Is it's General Business Day, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: It's General Business Day? So this morning there's a couple

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Speaker 2: of bills being introduced to Chief Minister right now is

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Speaker 2: giving her twenty twenty six statement in General Business Day.

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Speaker 2: We do have two motions up about the administrator, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see how they go. They're both focused on process.

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Speaker 2: The Member from Walker also has a motion about shared

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Speaker 2: decision making with Aboriginal communities. So I think it will

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Speaker 2: be an interesting afternoon. I always encourage people to come

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Speaker 2: in or tune in watch what happens in Parliament House.

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Speaker 2: It's your house. We're there for you. Come and see

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Speaker 2: what happens, how your representatives behave in Parliament, what they do,

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Speaker 2: what decisions they're making. You're very welcome here.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely watching yesterday Justine, so I know, I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people do, and it is an

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Speaker 1: interesting time. It's good to know what's going on inside Parliament. Justine.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate your time. I know it's a busy morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: No worries. Thanks Katie, thank you you too,