1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: It is being reported that workers for the maintenance contractor 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: at Impex are striking. Joining us on the line right 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: now from the ETU. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Dave Hayes, also known as Strawbs Ghetto. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: Strawbs, Good morning, Coatie, has things. 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Not too bad? What's going on out there? 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: So o, Katie, Look, we've been negotiating an enterprise bargaining 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: agreement with Trace broad Spectrum, who are a contractor out 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: here that performed the majority of the maintenance works on 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: the Impex plant. We've been in negotiations for about ten 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: months now with the company and just in the last 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: few days these negotiations have stalled. So the workforce, as 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 3: they can as they can under the APP have decided 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: to take detective industrial action today to try and move 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 3: forward in the bargaining process. 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: And so what exactly are you concerned about or what 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: are you trying to bargain for? 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: So the enterprise, the original enterprise agreement in place on 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: this plant was done in two thousand and seven AM 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: for the maintenance contract. That we say that agreement did 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: not reflect the wages and additions and how people were 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: employed out here at the plant. So we've worked quite 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: extensively and amicably with the company for quite some time 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: to get an agreement together that actually reflects our everyone's employed, 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: that recognizes the skills and the responsibilities that the trades 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: people out here have working on a major hazard facility. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: We've done quite well so far. We've had two the 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: agreement's gone out the vote twice, the proposed agreement which 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: has been unanically and knocked back by the workforce, and 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: we're at a stage where we're down to the final 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: few items that we're trying to negotiate to secure a package. 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: And obviously the final few items have costs that are 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: attracted to them, and these are the ones that are 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 3: seeming to be very hard to get over the line. 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Are you able to tell us what those final few 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: items are. 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. We're looking at things around the paid 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: breaks scenarios. So when you look at these gas plants 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: and how they're situated, people go out to work, they 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: stay there all day and work, and we believe they 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: should be paid for their time actually out on the facility. Currently, 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: they don't have their brakes paid and that's something that 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: is common in the industry and something we're trying to 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 3: achieve for this workforce. We've got annually even personal over 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: ceruls at the rostered rates to pay, which is something 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: that is also in a shift working industry, which is 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: quite common, which they don't receive. Now we've got a 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: number of different allowances that we're still trying to secure 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: in relation and that ties into the classifications for the 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: workforce and ensuring that they are paid and recognized for 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: what they do in their given roles. Got a couple 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: of smaller things but still important things that like pandemic 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: leave which is quite a hot topic at the moment, 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: rdos from Monday to Friday workers and a few other 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: bits and pieces. So we've come down to the the 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: business end of negotiations and we need the company to 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: come forward and you know, let's secure some conditions. We've 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: still got some room to move, we believe around some 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: items and we think we can we can get there 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: and get a good outcome for this entirely local workforce. 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: Get a four year agreement in place for them, which 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: both helps the company with their contract, which secures the 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: wages of conditions for the workforce for the next four 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: years out on the plant, and in so as we 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: keep these people in Darwin. This highly skilled labor, and 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: they don't head off to other gas plants to work 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: at which currently attract between ten and twenty percent higher 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: wages than the poor cousins here in Darwin. 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: I was going to say, Straves, I know that there'll 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: be some people listening, and I've got to ask you 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: know they'll be listening saying are you just being greedy here? 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: No, what we're looking at We've looked at the industry 73 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: as a whole. So if you take, for example, glad 74 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: them the gas plants over there Western Australia, the gas 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: plants over there industry which has absolutely developed over the 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: last ten or twelve years, and with this new facility 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: being operated here in Darwin. The original agreement was well 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: and truly substandard and the industry, the industry rates of 79 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: what we want to see afforded to these people here 80 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: who work on what is an absolutely dangerous environment and 81 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: the responsibilities they have on a daily basis to do 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: their job correctly to avoid any incidents out here. We 83 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: need that recognized and rewarded as it is in the 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: rest of the industry. 85 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: How many people have you got out there today striking? 86 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: So we've got a couple of shifts off this morning. 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: That this action affects one hundred and eighty odd employees 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: or the trace operation. There's three unions involved, which is 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: the ETU, the AMW and the AW. We have coverage 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: across all the different whether it be mechanical, electrical, crane 91 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: scaff oighting. So we've got a couple of shifts out 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: this morning. Obviously there's not one hundred and eighty people 93 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: working out here at one time, but we've had a 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: great turn up of close to one hundred of the 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: workforce this morning as some of the guys who are 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: on ship or sorry the workers who are on shift 97 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: have come out of the gate stop work this morning. 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: How long are you going to continue this stop work 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: action for? 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: Well, we're putting stoppages for today which will roll through 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: the day. We hope to speak to the company this afternoon. 102 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: We have got a planned bargaining meeting for tomorrow afternoon 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: which we want to get back to the table to 104 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: them with so we expect to have conversations with the 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: company in relation to that. We also have another quite 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: another array of options in relation to industrial action we 107 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: can take and some of them the people remain on 108 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: site and they can have bands on equipment that they 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: use and things like that. So at this point in time, 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: we just need to look at how the day plays out. 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: Hopefully get back to the table tomorrow and we'll see 112 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: how we go. 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: What impact is this having out there in terms of 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, work being able to get underway or be underway. 115 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Is it totally stopping things from happening? 116 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: So the impacts employees themselves would still be at work 117 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: operating the plant. This workforce, you know, substitute or probably 118 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: another full workforce that help impacts with anything. If there 119 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: was breakdowns or things like that that happened today that 120 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: would cause them a fair bit of drama or say, 121 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: but the plant can operate safely with the impacts employees 122 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: operating it. And part of our actions is to recognize 123 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: that if there is safety concerns that our workforce be 124 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: available if needed to keep the plant operating in a 125 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: stay with fashion. 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Well strabes, we are going to have to leave it there. 127 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Please let us know how things progress and no doubt 128 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you a get in the near future. 129 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: Thanks for your interest, Coatie, Thank you. 130 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: That is the ETU there, Dave Hayes, and as 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: You've just heard close to one hundred employees have seen 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: out there striking at the moment or taking that stop 133 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: work action