1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Now political party in Queensland says young offenders would be 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: relocated to outback detention camps for intensive rehabilitation in an 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: effort to tackle the crime crisis being experienced in the state. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: The Queensland Relocation Sentencing Proposal was announced on Monday, alongside 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: a report outlining how the proposal would work by Kata's 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Australia Party. The mandatory program would see repeat youth offenders 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: housed in demountable buildings where they'd be tasked with cooking, 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: cleaning and vocational training. 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Now joining me on the line is. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Robbie Catter, who is the leader of Kata's Australia Party 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: and member for Traeger. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning Kay, Thanks so much 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: for your time this morning. Robbie. 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Now I'm quite intrigued by this obviously. You are the 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: member that covers well my hometown of Mount Isa and 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: all the way up to Charter's Towers, where I know 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: that you guys have had quite a few issues when 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: it comes to youth crime. 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: We do, o Cady, and yet Wolf is a big 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: still a big name in Mount Isa where I live. Yeah, 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: and it's great to be a challenging up in the 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: north I love going up there. The question was what 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: the youth crime gripping Queensland. Yeah, so it's you know, 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: it's been escalating as it seems to be another part 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: of the country, but it's been escalating fairly rapidly over 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 3: the last five years to say would be fairly accurate. 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: And then we've we came up with a concept. Well 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: we didn't come up with it. It was put to us 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: about seven years ago now that you should do it 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: the same way first Australians, did you know they send 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: people out of us, get them away, out of the camp, 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: playing up, send him away. And as conversation Dad was 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: having some elders somewhere and he put it to us, 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: and we kept road testing it the last let's say 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: seven years now, but eventually said, look, let's put a policy, 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: a former policy together where a might party. We've only 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: got four MPs here in Queensland, so we don't have 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: great resources, so you know, detailed policy is always difficult 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: for us to justify, but we did that with this 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: because it's such a burning issue and like a lot 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: of answers are really obvious to people who are out 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: in the bush like I am in Maunt Eisa. They're 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: really obvious to us, but not to people in the city. 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: And already we've got people saying, oh, well, you know, yes, 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: so if you put these things in Charterstowers or Mount Either, 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: we know we're not saying maunt either. We're saying you're 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: and danger or remote mining teme in the middle of nowhere. 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: So people just don't even understand the basics of what 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: we're saying, and you always assume you do. And that's 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: been the hard thing of the years. But now we've 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: put a formal policy together, the government's taking notice and yes, 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: so I put a question. Now Premier and Queensland for 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: the first time ever, she's saying, well, yeah, maybe we 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: will have a look at this. And instead of just 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: saying no and being stubborn about. 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: It, well, we've got to do things differently, right, like 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: the way that we're the way that we're approaching the 58 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: issues with his crime at the moment, like it doesn't 59 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: seem to be working. In fact, what we're seeing right 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: around Australia it seems to be an increase in youth crime. 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Robbie talk us through some of what has happened in 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: the likes of Mount Aser in recent weeks. I understand 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: that you know, a counselor who I know, Kim Coglin, 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: was basically run down by a vehicle with children in it. 65 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, But there's quite there's been 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: quite a bit going on. 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, Cogo, I think I'm pretty sure I 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: was the first person you called that morning. I got 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: a plane and in their eyeser and it was just 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: like a war zone. So six kids have been in 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: a car for about almost ten hours running people down, 72 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: I should say allegedly, but they smashed in the cogo 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: in the main street or a number of people. Other 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: people I knew deliberately ran and deliberately ran people down. 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: Keep going to school on multiple school campuses, fashion through 76 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Gates tried to run a gardener down twice, which could 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: been fatal for all these people, but they jumped out 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: of the road and it hits was great, and they 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: just eventually just they pulled up around the fuel whatever 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: it was. And they've really just put the town and 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: shock and and that's you know, we've like our springs done, 82 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: and we've been pretty hardened already with the events that 83 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: what's been happening. But this was extreme so we just 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 3: keep getting things happening all the time, making worse and worse, 85 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: and the government, you know, it's generating so much anger 86 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: because the government hasn't said, yes, we know it's really bad, 87 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: we're trying to do this. They just keep saying we're 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: on top of it and it's getting better, and that 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: probably makes it worse for people. So yeah, anyway, the 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: kids don't have a consequence. That's the main issue we've 91 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: got at the moment. The magistrate can say I'll put 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: in Cleveland Bay, but a lot of my corpor mates 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: have told me mate, some of the kids are saying 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to to Cleveland when friends of them reel's there, 95 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: it's you. They're centivized go there. So that's not a 96 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: consequence or a deterrent. And the other the other option 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: for a magistrate Queensland is to put them back on 98 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: the street. By then ready care back in the home, 99 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: so they continue playing up. So we're trying to create 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: a third option. We say no, mate, you'll go on 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: for the next twelve months. You're going to be out 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: on the northern nat border, out in a remote camp. 103 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: There's only ten or twenty people, not with one hundred 104 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: and fifty people. Are you're on the youth detention center. 105 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: Are you're guaranteed to catch up with your friends and olives. 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: You're going to deliberately be split from those groups and 107 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: those bad influences. And the beauty of that is, you know, 108 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: the people that want want justice and one that kid 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: to suffer consequence, they get satisfied, but also people are 110 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: trying to rehabilitate the kid. That's the best platforms you 111 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: get to turn them around. Because I've been out, Katie. 112 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: You'll go to ere and Anti State School. You go there, 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: be team kids there, lovely kid and get them away 114 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: from mount either about input their lovely kids and then 115 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: you can start to work with them. But you've got 116 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: them in a remote setting where they're away and they're isolated. 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: That's where you can work with them. So we can 118 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: turn this around to be able to force them to 119 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: do it. And at the moment the government wants a 120 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: kiss and cuddle and so I know you start. These 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: kids need a firm hand at the start to get 122 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: them on the right track. And that'll take twelve months. 123 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: So that's all we're pushing and I think it's gone 124 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 3: pretty well. 125 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: And so Robbie at this point in time, I mean, 126 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: just explain to our listeners. You've sort of like you've 127 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: sort of explained it there. Obviously, these kids will be 128 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: going out to you know, to sort of a relocation 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: camp for intensive rehabilitation. What kind of programs and what 130 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of things would they then be involved in. 131 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: No, you know, trade, civil trades and you know, I 132 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: think it's horses for courses. Like so if there's one 133 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: situated down the Southwest or closer to Brisbane, there's probably 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: going to be a difference as subtle differences and activities 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: that you provide there then you would in north Coins. 136 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: And so you know Northwest there's a lot of cattle industry, 137 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: it's mining, a lot of council roadworks and stuff. And 138 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: if most of us leave in school, that's the sort 139 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: of stuff we're thinking about in terms of getting work. 140 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: You want to you know, if you're smart about it, 141 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: you'd be trying to relate it to things that they 142 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: can see where there's a good future for them and 143 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: where they might see their uncles or Arnie's working and 144 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: and but you've got a bold education into there, and 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: most of those activities they're trying to they're trying to 146 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: do in town. You still want to try and provide 147 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: those in that platform, but also some trade skills so 148 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: that you know, the kids can see a link between 149 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: this behavior and reform and where they can be in 150 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: the future. That's a really important part of it. And 151 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, it comes back to that point that kids, 152 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: they're not all fundamentally bad. A lot of them just 153 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: bored and lack direction. So if you can give them 154 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: the skills and the right influences, I think we could 155 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: turn a lot of them around. 156 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: Robbie has like has the plan had the backing of 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: local indigenous groups in Mount iSER or in Queensland. 158 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I haven't got a part of ten 159 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: people stand behind me, but I would say at least 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: fifty percent of the people come mine office in our 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: eyes are Aboriginal saying do something about this. This is 162 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: no good, you know. And some of them say that 163 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: our grandkids are our kids. But we you know, we 164 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: haven't got control you to do something about this, And 165 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: usually their views a lot harsher in the mind, I 166 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: don't we need military conscription or but when you always 167 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: say but whenever you suggest subtenly it's just what about 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: sending our bus. They always they bloody oaf, that's what 169 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: we should be doing our boys. That'll tide him up. 170 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: So they want justice and discipline as much as anyone. Yeah, 171 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: and I mean why wouldn't they. They just it's common 172 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: sense in this logic, and they care for the kids 173 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: and they want to see them turned around. But they 174 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: understand just as well as anyone that it requires discipline 175 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: sometimes and a bit of a shock to them to 176 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: turn them around. 177 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: And so at this point in time, Anastasia Palichet, the 178 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: premiere there in Queensland, she so you asked her a 179 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: question about this in parliament yesterday and what she's committed 180 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: to having a bit of a closer look into it. 181 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. So pointedly I asked the question boy twelve months 182 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: ago and you just stood up and said no, and 183 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: question on that back down? Would you consider? But with 184 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: all the momentum we've got here in Queensland the media now, 185 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: the answer was quite different yesterday was let you know, 186 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: let's have a look at that. She said, we're already 187 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: to do an on country program, which was in my 188 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: view of response to pressure we put on them the 189 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: same issue a few years ago where they made that 190 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: voluntary participation and so everything in Queensland is opt in. Yeah, 191 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: you will politely going to the door of these houses, 192 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: the social workers going to door of his house phone 193 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: excuse me. I know Johnny's playing up and he just 194 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: swears that the all the time, but would he come out, 195 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: you know, for the next couple of months on country 196 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: program with it. Guess what the answer is like they 197 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: had trouble getting the kid. So you need to make 198 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: it a sentence thing. And we've got the support actually, 199 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: Keith Hamburger, another academic in towns Will who's worked in 200 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: the golf and the cape for many years with Keith 201 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: hamburg who was the Director General of Corrected Services and 202 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: Queensland for nine years, which is very long time to 203 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: be a DG the head of corrector Services for nine years, 204 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: through different political parties in government, so and needs come 205 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: out strongly supporting it. So this is this is the 206 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: only way forward for these kids as you need this 207 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: from my sentencing. So there's academic support, there's been support 208 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 3: next police people coming out in the mainstream media here 209 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: in Queensland. So it's yeah, look something's going to common sense. Yeah, 210 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: I've got to change and it's cheap too. Katie's building 211 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: a building a mining camp in the middle of nowhere 212 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: and out of demandables and putting your water and powering 213 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: that to hell a lot cheaper than building that they've announced. 214 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: In Queensland, they're going to spend half a billion dollars 215 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: on building two new youth detention centers which currently have 216 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: ninety five percent recidivism. So you're going to build a 217 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: thing that doesn't work in the city where kids aren't 218 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: scared of going the couldn't care less about going there. 219 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: Actually someone might want to go there, and you're going 220 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: to They're going to double down on that, spend more 221 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: money on that. A small fraction of that could fund 222 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: what we're proposing. 223 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, before I let you go this morning, I'm 224 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: sure that you are aware of some of the situations 225 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: that we go through here in the Northern Territory, I 226 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: mean in Alice Springs. Obviously, those alcohol restrictions they were 227 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,239 Speaker 1: introduced in an effort to try and curb. 228 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: Some of what we are experiencing. 229 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: We've spoken to the mayor of mounta iSER Well a 230 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: few months ago now and she said that there were 231 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: bus loads of people from the Northern territory heading to 232 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the ISA. Is that still the case. 233 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: I believe that, yeah, that you know, it's cyclical, or 234 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: you might even say seasonal, so you can't sort of 235 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 3: say happened every month, or it comes in ways that 236 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: using Manier radios where there's been influx or itinerants. But 237 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: definitely there's are still a very strong presence of people 238 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: coming in from the Northern territory and it's pretty obvious 239 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: and honestly there's no effort at all from the Queensland 240 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: government or the federal government to address that despite many deputations. 241 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: I've had one minute that sort of took a bit 242 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: of interest there last year, but it's there's no investment 243 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: in that. And it's very frustrating because you know, just 244 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: displacing people and putting in an alcohol band here and 245 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: forcing them become a mount eyes that doesn't help anyone. 246 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: You know, you haven't helped the problem law. You just 247 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: displaced and moved the problem. 248 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: Moved it somewhere else here and that's you know, that's 249 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: been a concern that's raised here in the territory as well, 250 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: people sort of wondering if if you've got a situation 251 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: where we've got an alcohol band in Alice and they 252 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: then go into places like Catherine to be able to 253 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: access alcohol. And you know, it is one of those 254 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: things that we are certainly grappling with here in the territory. 255 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: But tell you what, it sounds like. 256 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: It's tough going in Mount Era and in Queensland at 257 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: the moment as well with this issue of youth crime, 258 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: and something has to be done differently. 259 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: We've got to, you know, we need to make some change. 260 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: We dedicated and yeah, a lot of you know, it's 261 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: a lot of personal pressure on this one itself, and 262 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: it's precisely what my job is in state politics try 263 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: and facilitate change. It has been very frustrating for a 264 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: government that for five years of trying to tell us 265 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: there wasn't even a problem in the first place. We know, 266 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: the fairly keeps saying yeah, well now they keep saying 267 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: we just got to keep doing what we're doing, but 268 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: do it better. And we said, no, you need to 269 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: completely change what you're doing and listen to people on 270 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: the ground. You know, people in regional areas can have 271 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: good ideas too. This is not our idea, we borrow 272 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: it off someone else, but it makes a lot of 273 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: sense and I think could represent part of the answer. 274 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: So our job is to not just have the idea 275 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: but make sure it gets adopted and that's a tricky part. 276 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Well, Robbie Katter, the leader of kata's Australia Party and 277 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: also the member for Treger. We really appreciate your time 278 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: this morning. Thanks very much for coming on the show. 279 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: It's great to chat Katie all the best. 280 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah you too. Thank you.