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Speaker 1: Waning us Live on the line is the Lord Mayor

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Speaker 1: of Darwin convat Scarlet's Good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You Corn, Good morning Keithy Corn.

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Speaker 1: Firstly, we know that there was a tragic incident at

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Speaker 1: the Botanic Gardens on the weekend. A twenty eight year

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Speaker 1: old woman killed and a thirty three year old seriously

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Speaker 1: injured when a large tree branch fell in the George

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Speaker 1: Brown Botanic Gardens early on Sunday afternoon. Now, I do

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Speaker 1: understand that the Botanic Gardens are managed by Parks and Wildlife,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Parks and Wildlife. But from a council perspective,

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Speaker 1: are you reviewing the way in which you manage your

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Speaker 1: trees in public spaces or are you taking a closer

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Speaker 1: look in light of what happened on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it was a really druggic event. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine people just going to have a store in

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Speaker 2: the botanical garden and the result this one person is dead,

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Speaker 2: the other is severely injured and in irbh today. It

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Speaker 2: is unfortunate, but trees can be unpredictable. We've seen that before.

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Speaker 2: We had an instant where a young child died when

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Speaker 2: a tree fell on it on a primary school in

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Speaker 2: Darwin and a man who was playing golf and he

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Speaker 2: was hit by a catcher by mahogany brands who fell

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Speaker 2: on him and killed him. The council is always on

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Speaker 2: the look for problems. We inspect regularly our big trees. Actually,

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, we have removed a lot

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Speaker 2: of the mahogany trees from areas where people frequent, like parks,

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Speaker 2: play grunts. Especially now I have received a lot of

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Speaker 2: abusive text messages and for Facebook, how dare you remove

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Speaker 2: the trees? Well, we remove the trees because we inspect them.

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Speaker 2: Especialist arborists will check them, find out signs of decay.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't see it with naked eye, but these

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Speaker 2: people know their experienced. If they advised the three post

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Speaker 2: the threat or will remove it and we plan the

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Speaker 2: most suitable tree.

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Speaker 1: Con My understanding is this tray based on what int

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Speaker 1: Parks and Wildlife ha saying this tray was a monkey

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Speaker 1: ear pod tray? Do we have many of those on

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Speaker 2: Not that I'm aware of. I think that one was

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Speaker 2: an exhibit in the botanical garden. After all, the botanical

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Speaker 2: gardens for that purpose to have rare trees. There are

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Speaker 2: a lot of trees in the botanical garden, you will

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Speaker 2: not see them in Downs. There are one or two species.

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Speaker 2: Our biggest problem here is mahoganist because the very tense

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Speaker 2: would they wrote inside without visible signs outside, and they

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Speaker 2: tend to shed branches. The other one is the white

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Speaker 2: gum as they call them widow makers. And the other

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Speaker 2: one is the black wattle that does we stand severe cyclone?

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Speaker 2: And after eight or ten years they wrote the good

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Speaker 2: thing with wattles a very very small tree. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: pose a severe thread like the white gums and the mahoganists.

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Speaker 1: Con I do want to move along. There is well,

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Speaker 1: there's been discussion, and you and I have spoken about

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Speaker 1: this before, but it looks like it's all forging ahead.

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Speaker 1: On the first of November, that is those forty kilometer

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Speaker 1: speed limits. I understand that there is going to be

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Speaker 1: that update following on from consultation. Is it going to

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Speaker 1: be introduced in the forty k speed limits around town in.

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Speaker 2: July to introduce the three Council decided to impose a

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Speaker 2: forty kilometer speed limit in down on CBD. The reality

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Speaker 2: cad is and I challenge. You drive from Daily Street

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Speaker 2: into the CBD and see half past it can go

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Speaker 2: because you can't. There are school zones. The pedestrian crossings

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Speaker 2: is traffic. So if you actually two more than forty

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Speaker 2: kilongs per hour, you'll be really lucky. But with what

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Speaker 2: we want to do, we want to normalize, We want

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Speaker 2: to make it safer for pedestrians, for people they ride

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Speaker 2: a bicycle in the CBD, and also stop the go

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Speaker 2: and come and go, come and go. From fifty to forty,

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Speaker 2: forty to fifty, let's make this forty. Everybody knows that

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Speaker 2: if you're at the CBD, it's forty kilometers, so there's

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Speaker 2: no excuse about oh I didn't know about that one.

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Speaker 2: I sped more than pty kilometers per hour. Most cities

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Speaker 2: in Australia now they've got forty kilos that hour the CIBD.

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Speaker 2: I've noticed with interest some international cities they drop it

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Speaker 2: down to thirty kilometers per hour, which I think that's

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Speaker 2: a bit excessive, and forty kilomes per hour is reasonable.

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Speaker 2: Most people are understand it, and the reality is the

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Speaker 2: out of it. So what I really bother with forty

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Speaker 1: Is it more a matter of doing this to try

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Speaker 1: and make the city a more walkable place or what's

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Speaker 1: the you know what is the real sort of push

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Speaker 1: behind us.

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Speaker 2: It's more to make it a livable place. Now we

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Speaker 2: want to put the packlets, now the parklets. If we

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Speaker 2: have packages in an area with sixty or fifty kilometers

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Speaker 2: per hour, they have to be over engineered as well,

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Speaker 2: so people will not adopt them. But because the cost

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Speaker 2: will be excessive forty kilometers, it's much more more manageable

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Speaker 2: bring the cost down, so the encourage people to have packlets,

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Speaker 2: which in turn we'll bring people out in the city

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Speaker 2: to sit outside, to have a coffee or a meal.

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Speaker 2: So it works in many many ways. Not only safety

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Speaker 2: for pedesta, not only safe before school kids, not only

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Speaker 2: saved before bicyclists, but bring people out because people will

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Speaker 2: adopt the parklets, put parklets in front of their property.

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Speaker 2: There is already one in Miches Street if you notice,

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Speaker 2: and as many many more coming out conn.

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Speaker 1: I have noticed as well. I've been in town the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weekends, you know, out for dinner and

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing with the family, and I actually

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Speaker 1: noticed last Saturday, I believe it was where there were

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Speaker 1: council workers. They were just sort of walking around making

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Speaker 1: sure that people were parked in the right area, not

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Speaker 1: sort of policing people, but I guess communicating with people

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Speaker 1: to try and make sure that they were parked in

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Speaker 1: the right area, particularly there along Austin Lane where I

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Speaker 1: know that there is that El Fresco dining. I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you trying to get the council staff out on

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Speaker 1: the weekends a little bit more to make sure that

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Speaker 1: it does feel like a safer place to be as well.

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Speaker 2: Actually, this year we are located in the Budge a

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Speaker 2: special money for as seven days a week, rangers patrolling

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Speaker 2: the city, not only the CBD but also outside the CBD. Look,

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Speaker 2: we're trying to do our best to make the city

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Speaker 2: a safe place. We can't expect people to come out

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Speaker 2: if they feel unsafe. Yes, we don't have the police

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Speaker 2: we would like to have, and I can talk to

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Speaker 2: you again about it. Yes we have the security patrol

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Speaker 2: of the CBD, but I think rangers going out and

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Speaker 2: as you said, advising people don't pack here, pack somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: or you instead of issue fines. It's a pr exercise

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Speaker 2: for a council, but also it's better a friendly approach

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Speaker 2: than a punitive approach. Our rangers are there to help.

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Speaker 2: They're not there to punish. The only punished if they

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Speaker 2: have to because people do not follow the instructions repeatedly.

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Speaker 2: They're working, they're working people. Sometimes they get abused by

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Speaker 2: certain people. They come and complain to us and we

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Speaker 2: try to refuse the situation. But our rangers are out

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Speaker 2: there to help our people come.

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Speaker 1: The other terrible thing that has happened since you and

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Speaker 1: I last spoke, well last week we also learned this

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Speaker 1: a second woman was sexually assaulted in broad daylight in

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Speaker 1: horrific incidents, horrific things to happen in our CBD, but

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Speaker 1: we are talking about in broad daylight. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do you feel as the mayor knowing that something like

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Speaker 1: this has happened.

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Speaker 2: I felt very angry, I felt very disappointed and very

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Speaker 2: let down, very let down because how many times will

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Speaker 2: be asking that you're not going to resolve the problem

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Speaker 2: unless you put police on the streets. Have you seen

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Speaker 2: a police on the street lately, because I haven't. If

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Speaker 2: you've seen one, please let me know so I take

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Speaker 2: a photo of Sorrey, remember what they look like at

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Speaker 2: the moment. We've got a problem in our city. Government

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Speaker 2: knows we've got the problem in the city, and Chief

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Speaker 2: Ministers in the latter statement admitted people are frustrated. Well,

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Speaker 2: people are frustrated. People are going to do things they

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Speaker 2: usually don't do it. I mean, there is an example

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Speaker 2: people in the city. We shouldn't wait until somebody does

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Speaker 2: something really stupid before we act. Just put police on

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Speaker 2: the street. Just restrict the sale of alcohol and I

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Speaker 2: give you another him, Katie. How many ties who we

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Speaker 2: ask for reduction of this sale of alcohol instead of

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Speaker 2: from ten am to ten pm, bring it twelve midday

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Speaker 2: to ten pm. I haven't seen anything yet. How many

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Speaker 2: times we ask for more police on the streets. I

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Speaker 2: know Michael Murphi is trying to do his best, but

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Speaker 2: he needs to do something he needs to do today.

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Speaker 2: Another thing we find out that I'm being advised about

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Speaker 2: that from people working in liquor outlets. People turning up

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Speaker 2: with large amount of money buying large amount of alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Just where this one goes second supply. Well, my suggestion

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Speaker 2: the other day the chief meanster was make the alcohol

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Speaker 2: casts free. You want to buy alcohol, you have to

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Speaker 2: pay by car. Then you can find out who buys

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Speaker 2: the qualities. Then you can change them up and a

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Speaker 2: second supply. And of course another thing is put the

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Speaker 2: in it, you can't buy alcohol. Simple as that. Simple solutions.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there could be more Like there definitely

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Speaker 1: could be more that we're doing with the BDR as

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Speaker 1: well to make it more effective. I mean to ensure

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Speaker 1: that the police are doing a great job under what

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Speaker 1: are stretched resources if you believe what the you know

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Speaker 1: what the Police Association others are telling us, and you

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Speaker 1: air about being under resource. But con I guess the

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Speaker 1: fact is even in our CBD, we we can't have

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Speaker 1: actually be legislative changes to try to stop people from

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Speaker 1: committing crimes in the first place.

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Speaker 2: It takes two things. Let's leave it changes and police. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. You can't hear police in every corner,

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Speaker 2: but the police patrols and the frienders wouldn't know which

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Speaker 2: way the police will come. They will be very careful

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Speaker 2: and we used to have that one with less policemen,

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Speaker 2: but they would probably better allocated. I know the commissions

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Speaker 2: with police being on extensive sick lif might be an

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Speaker 2: idea that actually all these people they have sick lift.

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Speaker 2: They're not getting sickly from a GP, but every so

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Speaker 2: often they have to actually be examined and tested by

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Speaker 2: government doctor to actually verify the severity of their injuries

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Speaker 2: and possibly possibly some of them they would not stay

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Speaker 2: for extended period of time in sick liff. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to make much popular with some of the policemen.

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Speaker 2: I know the frustration of the Police Commissioner and the government, but.

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Speaker 1: That people are staying on sick life for extended periods

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Speaker 1: when they're not seek that.

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Speaker 2: Comes actually from the police sources, not for me. Everybody

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Speaker 2: knows that some people, not everybody, would be very high

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Speaker 2: to exploit the system as they can.

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Speaker 1: I mean some of those officers though, presumably are on

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Speaker 2: Brilliant what the police is doing about supporting these police officers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't just say you're sick on your own.

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Speaker 2: You have to have a way of supporting people if

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Speaker 2: they suffer as a result of their employment. Con it

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Speaker 2: has to be something done, because at the moment, how

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Speaker 2: can you justify two raps in they brought daylight, all

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Speaker 2: these kids walking around with the bracelets in their antlets

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Speaker 2: committing crimes, and everybody sitting around to luga thumb says

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Speaker 2: everything is fine and done. Well, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Con Before I let you go, I do want to ask,

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Speaker 1: just very quickly, what do you make of the situation

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Speaker 1: in the Berkley region with the Barkley mayor calls for

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Speaker 1: him to resign following on from that vision emerging of

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Speaker 1: him sitting on a child.

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Speaker 2: Before we judge, people have but we wait until the

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Speaker 2: police investigation finished. If the police investigation minutes and find

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Speaker 2: out that he did something illegal, he will be charged.

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Speaker 2: But if he hasn't what everybody else now who's jumping

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Speaker 2: up and down asking for his resignation, will say nothing,

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Speaker 2: that will stay quiet, hiding behind their keyboards. Wait till

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Speaker 2: the investigation takes place. Do not judge somebody because you

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Speaker 2: saw a video heavy, Look what the real story behind

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Speaker 2: it is. I'm pretty sure the police from Alice Springs

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Speaker 2: will find what has happened and will take appropriate action.

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Speaker 1: Well, conbat Scarlars, the Lord Mayor of Darwin, we better

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Speaker 1: leave it there. Good to speak with you this morning.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Sorry about my wins, Katie, but I'm frustrated like every

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Speaker 2: other person in Darwin. I know people say, oh, Connor

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Speaker 2: is friends with the government, Well no I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 2: friends with my Constititionship, which actually the people of Darwin.

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Speaker 2: If I have to tell Chief Minister these things the

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Speaker 2: way they are, I would not hesitate to do so.

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Speaker 1: Conn We appreciate you Tom, thanks for speaking with us.