1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Well, you've heard from our next guest on a few occasions, unfortunately, 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: because she's been targeted by crime a number of times. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: In Catherine and Willow Blue boutique owner bec Beaumont joins 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: me on the line. Good morning to you. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Beck, Good morning, Katie. How are you? 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: You're really good? Thank you for your time this morning. Now, Beck, 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: you'd messaged just yesterday to say that again you'd been 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the victim of another incident, this time Saturday. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: What happened, Yes, So Saturday morning, I got notified from 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: my landlord that we had another broken window, and I 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: went back through my cameras, starting, you know, from like 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: night before, because most of my issues have been at night, 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: but this one was actually at six twenty in the morning. 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: And basically it was an older an older guy teenager 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: like an old young mager or a young adult, and 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: two young kids. They've whacked the window with something and 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: then the old guy has just kept kicking the window. 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: He got his foot jammed in in the window in 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: the hole that he had made, and then where he 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: kicked is where my Christmas tree is for my you know, 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: just making the window display nice. And then he tried 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: to pull the Christmas tree through the hole in the window. 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: But it didn't stop there. He literally just kept coming 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: back and ended up kicking it about five times. And 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: it was at sit yeah, six twenty in the morning, 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: broad daylight. Excuse me. Cars driving passed like they didn't. 27 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: They didn't really care about it. 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: It's just senseless, like it's absolutely senseless behavior. 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: It is it is. They didn't steal anything. They literally 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: just broke the window. And then I, you know, had 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: my melk down, went and got a coffee and as 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: I was driving out of Maca's drive through with my coffee, 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: there's two kids sitting at the courthouse and I was like, 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: hang on a minute, that is the little person, yes, 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: that I've seen in the video. So I actually went 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: over and I approached them and just spoke nicely to them. 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: Them me if they were the ones that you knew 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: about the window. They said no, and I was like, 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: are you sure because your shirt is exactly the same 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: as the one that I've seen on the video footage, 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: and I showed him the photo and then he just 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: spilt the beans. Oh, we had a shifter and we 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: smashed it. And then the older boy he just kept 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: making us do it, and he got arrested and he 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: got taken away and what have you. But what really 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: sort of I guess shocked me even more so with 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: those kids was that they had a hip flask that 48 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: they wouldn't give me, and then they had two lighters, 49 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: which they did eventually give me. You know, I said, 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: what are you doing with those? No, we just found them. 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: I said, well where are you where are you going to? 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: What are you doing with that? And they said, oh, 53 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: we're going to give it to an adult. I said, 54 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 2: all right, well I'm an adult, so I'll take them, 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: which I did hand over to the police when they 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: came to speak to me. So it's younger than my daughters. 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: It's not on. And you know, like, honestly, how many 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: times do you and I have to have a conversation 59 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: about it before something's going to change. And I know 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: that you are among other business owners in Catherine who 61 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: really you know, you do want, you do want some 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: answers from the Northern Territory government. You've had to make 63 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: three claims in thirteen months, and you want to know 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: what the Northern Territory government is doing to support your business. 65 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: And I know other business owners are wondering the same. 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's actually this is now my fourth window, and 67 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: it's literally within a nine month period. Right, My first 68 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: window got broken in February, so this one happened on 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: the weekend. So it basically is four smashed windows within 70 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: a nine months period. So the Resecure grant where the 71 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: government will pay one thousand dollars to go towards broken windows, 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: you can only claim that three times within twelve months. 73 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Natasha Filas did come to Catherine. I spoke to her 74 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: about that, and she said she'd look at that. I 75 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: was like, you know, because I'm having to replace these 76 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: purely because these delinquent kids are running around and just 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: deciding to trash the joint. They have no respect for anybody, 78 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: like they don't even respect themselves, which you know, nine 79 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: ten year old kids that are sitting there drinking and 80 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: doing god knows what. Well. 81 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: The thing is, if the government's not going to stop 82 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: that behavior, then they do have to make it easier 83 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: for businesses to be able to make these claims. So 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: just talk me through back at this point in time, 85 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: So you've actually had four of these window breaks since 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: February this year, and you're only allowed to claim three 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: and twelve. 88 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: Months correct, Yes, so this is the fourth one. So 89 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: the first one was because there was a domestic violence 90 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: since then a guy kicked my window instead of his 91 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: wife's head. Look, I can deal with that. You know 92 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: they were having a huge, big blue out the front 93 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: of the shop. Whatever, that's fine, I can deal with that. 94 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: The next one was because kids broke into my shop. 95 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: And these are all kids from outlying communities. They're not 96 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: kids that are here local in Catherine. I'm not saying 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: that the kids hearing Catherine a perfect because their bloody 98 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: hell sure a shit, they're not. But all the issues 99 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: that I'm having are from kids that are from out 100 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: of community. They're from out of Catherine. So they broke 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: my door. And then the next one was because kids 102 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: will walk around with a hammer and just decided to 103 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: smash up things. So that's when the amded bank tellers, 104 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: the ATMs got done, Carrie got done. And now this 105 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: one so again on Saturday or Friday night, Saturday morning, 106 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Red Rooster's window got smashed, dollars and cents got done. 107 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: There was a window at Woolworst that got done. There 108 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: was the door at Woolworth. 109 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: And so Beck, what you want the Northern Territory government 110 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: to do here is you know, if essentially, if you're 111 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: not going to stop the crime before it happens, then 112 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: you're going to need to change. You're going to need 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: to change this scheme that you've got where you know 114 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: you're only allowed those three three claims in twelve months 115 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: because unfortunately, most businesses at this point are getting broken 116 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: into or are having issues more often than three times 117 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: in a year. 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: More often than that. That's correct, Jody, how many times 119 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: have you been done out there? So I've got Jody 120 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: in here in the shop from Catherine Laundromat. She's been 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: done five times the guys and still have smashed windows. 122 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: Like it's just beyond an actual joke we need. My 123 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: concern is and you know, Chancy Pate can call me 124 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: a racist, do whatever as he likes to do. But 125 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: the issue is that the people that are coming into 126 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: town that are doing it, they are from outlying communities 127 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: like that, it's just getting beyond a joke. Like so 128 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: we need a permit system to go out to their communities. 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: Why if they don't have a address, if they don't 130 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: have an address to come into town or somewhere to stay, 131 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: where's their permit system to coming here and say that 132 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: you need to respect where the town when you're coming 133 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: into a town setting. And it's not a racial thing, 134 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: it really isn't. I've got a lot of Indigenous customers 135 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: that come through my shop and they're more than welcome 136 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: to come through. They're treated the exact same way as 137 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: everybody else is. And I would be raising these concerns if, 138 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: you know, if it was the Greek community, they were Caucasian, 139 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: if they were Asian, whatever it was, people would be 140 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: saying it. It's just getting beyond a joke. And the 141 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: fact that so many businesses are getting targeted. Retail business 142 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: is hard in general, just not retail, but business in general. 143 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: And continually we're having to sit here and where the 144 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: bruntt is cost purely because these kids are in town unsupervised. 145 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: These kids are from Miniering and the parents aren't even 146 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: in town. For crying out loud, If I sent my 147 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: daughters to Darwin and just said, hey, you know what, 148 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: go find whatever, do whatever you want to do, it's 149 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: a free for all, I'm sure someone will just start 150 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: feeding you as you're walking around the streets. Like absolutely 151 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: pulled over the ringer because of it. Well, why is 152 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: this not actually happening? These the systems, so many of 153 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: these kids down like nine years old. I actually really 154 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: do feel sorry for these kids. 155 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: Like the same here. It should not be happening. Yeah, 156 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: it's not acceptable. It is not acceptable. Beck, we are 157 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: going to have to wrap up. But just before I 158 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: let you go, so, I mean, there is there are 159 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of elements to this conversation, Like you know, 160 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: I know you've raised a number of different issues, but 161 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: I just want to head back just for a moment 162 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: to that support, you know, in terms of the you know, 163 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: the window breaks and how many claims you can make. 164 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Do you think the Northern Territory government needs to increase 165 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: the way in which they're doing things now? Does that 166 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: need to change? 167 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean you know, you can see the 168 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: amount of people, the amount of businesses that are having 169 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: their windows broken, you can see that. And this is 170 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: something that's coming out of the hip pocket of businesses 171 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: all because kids are destroying it. And they're not even 172 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: like in this instance, they're not even breaking in. They're 173 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: literally doing it for shits and giggles. Yeah, they don't 174 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: care that it is daylight. They did not care that 175 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: there are cameras. They did not care that there are 176 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: cars driving paths that are able to see this happening. 177 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Beg. 178 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, my concern with the respect. They don't respect anybody. 179 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: They don't respect their community. They don't respect their own community. Elders, 180 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: they sure as hell don't respect me. They don't respect you. 181 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: They don't respect anybody. And that's where it's just getting 182 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: beyond the joke, like something needs to be done with 183 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: the kids, like they need to be you know, there 184 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: has to be something done to stop the amount of 185 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: crime that is happening. 186 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yes, it is not good enough. It's not 187 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: getting better. It's not good enough. Beck, I'm really sorry. 188 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: We are going to have to leave it there. I 189 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: really appreciate you talking to me this morning. Thank you 190 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: very much for your time throughout the year as well. 191 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: And let us see what we can, what we can 192 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: find out, and what we can you know, hopefully change, 193 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I really hope at some point, Beck, thank 194 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: You, no worries, Thanks Katie, thank you