WEBVTT - We Talk All Things Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie and Kate Torbert, and today we're talking all things

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor now. New Bachelor Matt Agnew has had the difficult

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<v Speaker 1>task of coming into the Bachelor franchise after what was

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<v Speaker 1>probably the worst series, which involved the Honey Badger last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and his shock decision to pick nobody. Kate and Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>what were your thoughts on the first and second episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually been really enjoying it. I mean, we're two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes in so far. I love the fact that Channel

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<v Speaker 1>ten have selected an unknown bachelor. It's the first time

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty fifteen, since Sam Woods was the Bachelor, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're meeting someone for the first time. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>some rehashed ex contestant or supposed celebrity like the Honey Badger.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to agree, I do love the selection of

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Agnew is refreshing. I mean, I love Tim Robards

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<v Speaker 1>in the first series of The Bachelor, But I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say I've been quite disappointed. I was pretty bored

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<v Speaker 1>watching it. I've got to agree with Amy. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>found it really boring. I was excited to see how

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<v Speaker 1>Matt would go, and I think he's a breath of

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<v Speaker 1>fresh air. But the female contestants again are just old

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<v Speaker 1>hat like. They're exactly what they're always like. They're bitchy

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit crazy, and it's just I just

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<v Speaker 1>find it boring. It's very one dimensional. It is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>the women that they've chosen this year, because Matt, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is a lovely guy, and it seems that maybe they've

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<v Speaker 1>had to choose these outrageous figures because they fear Matt

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<v Speaker 1>might get a bit boring by the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he's clearly the star of the show

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Whoever's picked as a bachelor, who is going

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<v Speaker 1>to determine whether ratings are good or not. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's transparent what they're trying to do this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're right on the money with it. They're

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<v Speaker 1>choosing someone who women actually like. It's a very smart

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's actually looking for love this time around. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a dog, he's just so lovable. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a really clever move by Channel ten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but so no one's saying that they don't think he's good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're saying that the concept is old, So let's get

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<v Speaker 1>some hot guy and then have all these crazy women

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<v Speaker 1>fight over him. It's like, can't we portray the women

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<v Speaker 1>a bit better? I mean, he's an astrophysicist. Yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got some smart women on there, but we're just degrading

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<v Speaker 1>them to the point where they're just having scrag fights

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. Like I actually want to hear about

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. And I think that's a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the American series. You actually have the full video

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<v Speaker 1>where you see who these girls are, where they're from,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they actually genuinely seem to be in it

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<v Speaker 1>for love. I don't think I get that vibe with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think they're all crazy stalkers that we all

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<v Speaker 1>think are pathetic and we're all laughing about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that the format's not got. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Amy suggested that the reason that they're choosing at

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<v Speaker 1>these outrageous characters and Bachelor rec contestants is because Matt

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<v Speaker 1>is bland. Let's be honest, though, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Americans series of The Bachelor, with Colton Coleton's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really cute looking. Everyone loves him, but he is also

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<v Speaker 1>a bit like Matt. He's a bit one dimensional. He's hot,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you had to sit down and watch him

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<v Speaker 1>for two hours, he's a little bit boring. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to add spice with the women. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying Matt is a really boring guy, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>the astrophysicist thing is going to run a little bit dry.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like the Bachelors are trying to create sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor producers trying to create all this drama to

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<v Speaker 1>keep us entertained. Well, I mean it was clear that

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<v Speaker 1>the astrophysicists thing was running dry in the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>when they had to use every pun about space. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it pissed anyone else off. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all agree that they got the casting

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bachelor right, but they've just, you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded him by bitchy women that you know that format's

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<v Speaker 1>worked before, but it's just not It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just not exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I suppose the new thing that

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<v Speaker 1>they've done this season is introducing these intruders on episode two,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just didn't get it. It was almost like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got all these sad no Hoper stalkers in one area,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they add these very overtly sexual women in

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<v Speaker 1>stir the pot, and it's just like, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>like any of them. I want a Georgia love I

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<v Speaker 1>know she was the Bachelorette, but I want someone that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rooting for to win, Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be just hating on everyone and thinking, oh, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>We want a love story.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what's fantastic about the US Bachelor because by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of it, I have to admit I'm nearly

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<v Speaker 1>crying at some of the proposals, and you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel that with the Australian one.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems fake.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you're saying, the formula for it is let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep the audience entertained, because the Bachelor producers perceive us

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<v Speaker 1>as wanting these bitchy women to go on and then

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<v Speaker 1>the last week they're in love. But we've not seen

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<v Speaker 1>any of that love story. What is promising this year

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<v Speaker 1>is we are going to see a love story. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor producers have been very clever in the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remind us of all the beautiful love stories

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<v Speaker 1>that we have seen in the series. When I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Anna and Tim meeting for the first in the little

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<v Speaker 1>promo video. To be honest, I got a bit nostalgic

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it because it was such a great series

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one that I suppose I'm hoping we experience

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<v Speaker 1>again this year. And that's what's so disappointing about the

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<v Speaker 1>first two episodes, is it we might get the love

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<v Speaker 1>story near the end, but we want it from the start.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Was one thing that I didn't miss? That they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do those Tachy and w photo shoots where they all

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<v Speaker 1>dress up as characters in the go. That was so

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<v Speaker 1>glad that was missing. But I mean I did fall

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<v Speaker 1>asleep in it, so I'm assuming that didn't happen. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to think what they would have dressed an

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<v Speaker 1>astrophysicist up at something overtly sexual. I can't really think,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you pawn star or something. It was interesting though,

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<v Speaker 1>because it did have great ratings. That had eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty eight thousand viewers, which made it the most

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<v Speaker 1>viewed show in that time slot that night compared to

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<v Speaker 1>The Honey Badger and He kicked off the series with

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and forty thousand viewers. It was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>highest launch episode that the franchise has ever experienced, but

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<v Speaker 1>then again, it was the most dissa pointing finale. And

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that interesting to see that it's dropped off by

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<v Speaker 1>nearly one hundred thousand people? And is that the honey

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<v Speaker 1>Badger effect? Have people switched off because they no longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy this love story?

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<v Speaker 1>From a ratings perspective, I think we've got to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the American series. I know we are og Bachelor fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie and I actually discovered the show. I remember what

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<v Speaker 1>We were twelve, and we were cleaning out our bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>and it was school holidays, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably about nine thirty at night and we were flicking

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<v Speaker 1>stations and we came across this show where there was

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<v Speaker 1>this guy sitting in a spa with ten girls, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were immediately hooked to the show. I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>it was just the biggest treat to watch it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's old now, eighteen years ago, and that's crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember in the episode that there was a vegetarian woman

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<v Speaker 1>and just to get the Bachelor's attention, she ate meat

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<v Speaker 1>from his hand, and.

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<v Speaker 2>God, oh yeah, I was gonna say, what was we

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<v Speaker 2>worrying where that was going.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I loved about The Bachelor was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day when we watched it as youngsters,

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<v Speaker 1>was that Mum would sit down and watch it with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that coming down and seeing her daughters watching

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<v Speaker 1>a man in the spa with eight women would probably

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<v Speaker 1>horrify her, but she's say, oh my god, girls, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you watching? Back to that, it's just it's never

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<v Speaker 1>gotten old, Like we still watch it with mum and

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<v Speaker 1>we still get excited about it, whereas I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I've never felt like that with the Australian one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always not quite right. And I think a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of that is I think we touched on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems fake the Australian one, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's also a big part of it. And I'm interested

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<v Speaker 1>to hear your thoughts. Is they don't do the fantasy suites.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of the best part. And for those who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen The American Bachelor, the fantasy suite is when

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<v Speaker 1>you get down to the final four no sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>the final three, and they usually take them away to

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful exotic location and they have a full day

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<v Speaker 1>date and then at dinner, they get the choice whether

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<v Speaker 1>to for go their individual rooms or go.

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<v Speaker 2>To the fantasy suite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, according to New Idea, we might be getting that.

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<v Speaker 1>A New Idea article has come out today saying that

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<v Speaker 1>a Bachelor insider claims that Matt had sex with a

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<v Speaker 1>contestant that he doesn't give the final rose to. Did

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<v Speaker 1>they say that was in a fantasy suite. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>clarified whether it was a fantasy sweet situation, but they

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<v Speaker 1>did say that it happened on the set. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>odd because there's always been reports that it's so that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even get alone time really with the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's quite interesting because I was listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>New Bachelor US podcast, which features Ali and Rachel, who

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<v Speaker 1>were the American bachelorettes, and I would highly recommend it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, And they were talking about their time as

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<v Speaker 1>bachelorettes and the fantasy suite dates specifically, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>saying that in Ali's series, the producers actually left them alone,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Rachel's, which was only a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>they were there the whole time. They stayed in another room.

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<v Speaker 1>Spri me was they act like they're so in love

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<v Speaker 1>when they're in their fantasy sweet date. But she was

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<v Speaker 1>actually saying she was quite grossed out by this guy

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<v Speaker 1>and that she actually wanted to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that actually surprised me a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does, you know, with just saying how the

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<v Speaker 1>American one is so much more real. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking about the timing of this news coming out

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<v Speaker 1>about Matt having sex with on the contestants. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>not scream of being fake and for publicity and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to spice it up a bit. I personally feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems something that's been leaked from the production team

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<v Speaker 1>to try and make him, you know, the good boy,

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<v Speaker 1>be a bit more of a bad boy. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>like when suddenly a new idea gets a leak of

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<v Speaker 1>a pregnancy test at the Batchi mansion.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so fake.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that's been a bit of a hot topic is

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<v Speaker 1>Channel ten's portrayal of diversity. What do you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>about it this year? I think it's great that they've

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get a more diverse cast, but again, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they've missed the mark. It's almost like they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really thought it through properly. They just think by

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<v Speaker 1>chucking in a couple of of different nationalities that they've

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<v Speaker 1>done their job, but the actual fact is it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of come across.

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<v Speaker 2>As a little bit racist.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think the portrayal of Kristen, who is known

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<v Speaker 1>as the China Girl, is very problematic. She every time

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<v Speaker 1>she's on screen we have Chinese music playing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did anyone else think it was odd that she one

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a fortune cookie and then continue to go

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<v Speaker 1>on about her box the whole time? Can we just

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<v Speaker 1>add that, for those who haven't actually seen it, this

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<v Speaker 1>girl is not actually Chinese. She's a white, blonde Australian

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<v Speaker 1>girl who speaks Mandarin fluently. And yeah, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit appalled by her suggestions about her box, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just cringe.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's more.

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<v Speaker 1>Troubling about her portrayal on the show is they've only

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<v Speaker 1>ever had two Asian contestants. Now that was Judy, who

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember from Tim Robard's series, and Vanessa's

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<v Speaker 1>sun Robart.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that his robarts.

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<v Speaker 1>Rot? I's gonna say, and this, yeh, Vanessa Sunshine. What

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<v Speaker 1>I find a bit troubling also about it is if

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<v Speaker 1>so they think it's acceptable to make fun of this

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<v Speaker 1>girl because she likes China. But I'm like thinking, would

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<v Speaker 1>they put that music on for a Vanessa Sunshine, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? So the China Girl wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that had music attributed to her. We also

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<v Speaker 1>had the two Persian princesses that had Middle Eastern music playing.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was even weirder was that they were pitted

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<v Speaker 1>against each other. That was almost like the producers are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we can only have one Persian princess.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>An absolute favorite contestant her I think that everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>been celebrating is the kup. Now if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm talking about, she has been compared to Tyra

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<v Speaker 1>Banks and she is the contestant that rolled the red

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<v Speaker 1>carpet out And when she left Matt she said to him,

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<v Speaker 1>once you go black, you never go back.

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<v Speaker 2>I must admit.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first saw her and she rolled out the

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<v Speaker 1>red carpet, I just thought it was a bit wanky.

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<v Speaker 1>But she does seem like a nice, strong, strong woman.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. There was just something about bit cringe, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a model. I'm a model, Amma model. But I

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<v Speaker 2>might be wrong. She might grow on me. I loved her.

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<v Speaker 1>Though She's been pretty popular on social media and across

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and people are making meme saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That she's a mood.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think she's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember because I actually felt aslave well.

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<v Speaker 1>She She wasn't in the rose ceremony, which raised a

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<v Speaker 1>few eyebrows because she was unwell, so maybe you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see her look, probably because the Rose ceremony stretches over

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<v Speaker 1>two days. I'm gonna put it out there if it

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<v Speaker 1>does not get better this week, I'm gonna be searching

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<v Speaker 1>for Hannah Bee's series on.

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<v Speaker 2>The internet because I heard that went off.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded even it was apparently more epic than Colton series.

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<v Speaker 2>That must be said. I'll leave it at that she's

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<v Speaker 2>not a virgin.

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<v Speaker 1>But well before Kate jumps ship and goes and watched

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<v Speaker 1>The US Bachelor, I thought we'd run through some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most entertaining headlines this week about Matt Agnew and

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<v Speaker 1>may I add. I don't know if anyone else is

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<v Speaker 1>feeling this, but Matt, do you know who he reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of? Oh Gimber dr Alex from Love Island last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can see.

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<v Speaker 1>The similarities there, except he's actually got women interested in

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<v Speaker 1>him this time around. I loved Alex a little less

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<v Speaker 1>burnt than Alex, but anyway, that's because no one was

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<v Speaker 1>on Alex's intellectual level.

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<v Speaker 2>No are You're exactly right? He was definitely my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first headline is the Bachelor's Matt Adnew reveals

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<v Speaker 1>how many women he slept with. That was of course

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<v Speaker 1>on Kyle and Jackie.

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<v Speaker 2>O ho any was it? I haven't heard well.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle was shocked when Matt revealed he'd slept with seven women.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes me like him even more. He actually revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that was a question on the Bachelor application form, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty interesting. I wonder how many of the honey

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<v Speaker 1>Badgers said, I'm just gonna make two points, Versie, how

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<v Speaker 1>old is he?

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<v Speaker 2>He's thirty one? Okay, cool and second night? I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's great. Can we talk about double standard?

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<v Speaker 1>Would they have done this for the women? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can never imagine. Ali Otagin reveals how many men

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<v Speaker 1>she slept with. That would never be a headline if

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<v Speaker 1>he slept with seven girls? Were meant to believe this

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<v Speaker 1>new headline that's come out this week from the obviously

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<v Speaker 1>from the Bachelor producers that they've leaked saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>slept with someone on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard as well that he had to ring his

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<v Speaker 1>mum up to apologize for the teaser of him making

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<v Speaker 1>out with girls on the beach, So it is quite

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<v Speaker 1>a jump for him to then be sleeping with contestant.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty over the top. I saw a photo

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<v Speaker 2>of it before and I was like, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anyone see the teaser of him sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bath tub covered in chocolate and the panned placement

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<v Speaker 1>of the I don't know which contestant it was, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was like they'd gone They know, they've gone back

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<v Speaker 1>to basics. They can't afford a massive bath tub that

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<v Speaker 1>they had Ritchie and Alex in, but they can afford

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<v Speaker 1>a little chocolate bucket. So the next earth shattering headline

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<v Speaker 1>was how tall is the Bachelor's Matt Angnew His exact

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<v Speaker 1>height revealed and then the leaders, yes, this is important. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they rate that. How tall was he?

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<v Speaker 1>It says and his response was I'm six ' three

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<v Speaker 1>but six six on tinder. That actually shocks me that

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<v Speaker 1>he's six foot three. He doesn't look that tall. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he looked quite tall anyway. I thought he'd be sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like everyone is now obsessed with his appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I suppose it's kind of refreshing because women

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<v Speaker 1>get it all the time, but this time they There

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of articles that I saw popping up

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<v Speaker 1>on my newsfeed on social media about the before and

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<v Speaker 1>after of his social media pictures verse now what he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking like, and everyone's saying he looks a lot hotter. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's just a difference. Taking some glasses off

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<v Speaker 1>in a haircut makes not like he's had plastic surgery

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. Yeah, the next headline is actually before and

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<v Speaker 1>after fans reckoned bachelor Matt Agnew has had quite the transformation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I find that a bit ridiculous because I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at his picture and it's basically he's taking his glasses

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<v Speaker 1>off and had a haircut. I don't know if people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna hate me for saying this, but if anyone's

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<v Speaker 1>seen the sein Felt episode where there's the two face,

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<v Speaker 1>remember the woman that Gerry dates and at the coffee shop,

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<v Speaker 1>she looks good in the particular light, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>looks a bit different in the other light. And not

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<v Speaker 1>saying he looks bad, I actually think he looked great.

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<v Speaker 1>In some lights he looks a bit geeky, and then

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<v Speaker 1>others he looks like a model.

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<v Speaker 2>So essentially, when we look.

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<v Speaker 1>At the before and after, it's literally a haircut, taking

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<v Speaker 1>his glasses off, and he's wearing a suit. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he's had plastic surgery or botox in his head

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the bachelorette contestants.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he the only non stripper we've had as a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor, so we've had Tim Robard's, Blake Garvey.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Wood? Was he a stripper as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know he's got a hot bod, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't sorry, don't you mean topless waiter? So we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to retract that statement. Sorry Sam, but you do have

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<v Speaker 1>a hot body, but you were not a stripper. I

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<v Speaker 1>swear there were more who were strippers hanging, but who.

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<v Speaker 2>Was after Sam Wood?

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<v Speaker 1>There's other I think they're just other bachelor contestants in Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>bachelorete contents might be confusing, As you say, my topless

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<v Speaker 1>waiters like Anton from Love Island into this mix. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just put it out there. We've never had an

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<v Speaker 1>astrophysicist before, so yeah, slightly better than a stripper. Maddy

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<v Speaker 1>Jay wasn't a stripper.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another one. Here's in marketing job.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny you say that because now he is a

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<v Speaker 1>stupor he was on that stupid course for wanty oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think we were raising money for a good cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually we're not really complaining about that. Why not we

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say he definitely hasn't got a dad bod yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll keep you posted on how that one goes. Well.

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