1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: It's lunchbox season and that means lunchbox snacks, and aren't 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: there millions of them to choose from. We could literally 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: spend hours reviewing all of our lunchbox friendly snacks, but 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: today we've chosen just two of our favorites. But just 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: in case you weren't aware, Hi, I'm Leanne. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Ward and I'm Susie Burrow, and. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Nutrition Couch. We are two of Austray's 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: leading dietitians bringing you all the new things on trending 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: nutrition news topics, health food product reviews and also our 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: listener questions of the week. And this is our new 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: mini segment on product reviews, and this week we are 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: chatting all things lunchbox snacks. So I'm going to hand 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: over to you, Susie, to take the reins on the 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: first product that we've chosen, which I know for you 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: is one of your favorites. Now we must disclose this 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: is not a sponsors segment. If we ever do a 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: sponsors segment, we will absolutely let you guys know and 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: be fully transparent. So Susie is chosen one of her 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: favorite products this week, which is the Messy Monkey's Whole 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Grain butts beautiful. 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 2: So I think, first of all, we will preface this 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: by saying that we are not saying by any means 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 2: that processed snacks for children are ever preferable to whole 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: foods like our yo playing yogurt or milk, or dairy 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: or fruit. But what we are saying is that, of 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: course people do buy package snacks for children. Children often 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: seek package snacks, and there are a million of them 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: out there, and there are certainly ones the end that 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: are much better than others. So I thought today, rather 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: than perhaps target ones we're not that much of a 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: fan of, because so many mums listen and we know 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: that you're looking for healthier options, I will really focus 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: on two of my favorite ones because I think there's 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: plenty of things to talk about with them. So the 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: first is a brand you'll all be very familiar with. 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: It's the Messy Monkeys Whole Grain Bites. So Messy Monkeys 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: have a range of bars and breakfast cereal, but I've 38 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: specifically chosen the whole grain bites, which come in the 39 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: individual packets because inevitably, in my experienced kids are looking 40 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: for things in little packets, even though that's not great 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: for the environment. Let's again preface by saying that, and 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: I've chosen the ones that are Burger flavor because the 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: reason I've done that is that, in my experience, you 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: can't just replace a diesel with something boring. It's got 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: to be similar in taste, in textra Otherwise the kids 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: just won't eat it and you waste your money. So 47 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: the Messy Monkeys, after several formulations, have come up with 48 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: a whole grain bites which nutritionally are pretty goodly and 49 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: and definitely recently when we had the Healthy Food Guide Awards, 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: they did very well in voted by several different independent dietitians. 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: The ingredients, so they come in a pack I think 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: of ten of individual twenty grams serving sizes. Nutritionally that's 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: less than one hundred calories, which is always my reference 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: for a package to snag food for children. It's got to 55 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: be less than one hundred calories. So these are eighty five, 56 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: which is three hundred and fifty eight killer jaws one 57 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: point seven grams of protein, so they're not getting a 58 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: huge amount of protein, a little bit from the whole grain. 59 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: No gluten, so no detectable gluten in this product, so 60 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: suiting gluten free people, less than three percent saturated fat, 61 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: so only three point six grams of total fat one 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: point less than one gram saturated, so very good. They're 63 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: minimal added sugar is none, so zero point two grams 64 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: and just eleven point five grams of carbohydrate per serve, 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: which is a good good amount. Two grams of die 66 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: fiber which is not insignificant for children, and sodium seventy 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: nine milligrams. Now, people get quite confused with sodium because 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: seventy nine they think that sounds high. But we've roughly 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: got about two thousand per day to play with, so 70 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: in the scheme of kid snacks, this is pretty low 71 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: per serve. That's being helped by the fact it's a 72 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: small serving size. Admittedly, they're gluten free, wheat free, thirty 73 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: six percent whole grain, which is where our fiber is 74 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: coming from. They classify for a source of fiber, no 75 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: artificial colors, flavors, preservative, and it's a four health star rating. Now, 76 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: if I look at the ingredient mix, the flour mix 77 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: is whole grain sorgum twenty four percent maize, rice whole 78 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: grain quinoir, followed by canola oil, chickpea, fiber, natural flavors, 79 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: a little bit of sugar, salt, vegetable powder for the flavor, 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: cocoa powder, and multifier. So again, Leanne, you could look 81 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: at that ingredient list and say, oh, it's got extra 82 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: oil added, it's got extra sugar. But what we know 83 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: nutritionally is is because this is a very small packer. 84 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: This is twenty grand. This is like literally a tablespoon 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: worth of weight. Even though there is a little bit 86 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: added sugar, a little bit added salt. In the rand 87 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: scheme of diet, this is very small and certainly it's 88 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: up the top of what's available for children. So I 89 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: would describe this, for want of a better description, one 90 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: of the best of what we would describe is a 91 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: bad bunch in the sense of being a processed food. 92 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: So the best of something that we want to include 93 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: minimally and the diet. But for me Lea and most importantly, 94 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: when you give the kids these, they eat them and 95 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: they like them, because there's plenty of snacks out there 96 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: a similar format that the kids just won't eat because 97 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: they don't taste greape and they don't taste like what 98 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: they're expecting from a chip. They're crunchy. They're very small. 99 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: As I've described before, with my twins, I won't give 100 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: them a whole packet of these. I'll break it open 101 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: and give them a few at each of their lunch boxes, 102 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: and they're very happy with that. Because they're any little, 103 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: they don't need to be eating buckets of snack food. 104 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: But in general, I think there's about four or five 105 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: different flavors. There's a sour cream, there's a cheese, one, 106 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: a barbecue, there's several salt and vinegar, so it's lots 107 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: of different flavor profiles. They're child friendly, they're in a 108 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: bright colored bag. They're sold in generally the healthy section 109 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: of supermarket, and I often get them when they're on 110 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: sale because they're often coming up as half price, and 111 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: I'll have a quick look now because I haven't actually 112 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: put it in here what they retail at per packet normally, 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: but I tend to with all kids snack food, wait 114 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: until it's on sale because it's often half price, and 115 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: let's be honest with you, all like to save a 116 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: bit of money. So I'll buy a few when they're 117 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: on sale, and probably at the moment there's quite a 118 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: few on sale because they're being marketed at supermarket, so 119 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: I've just had a little look and they're about five 120 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: dollars for the box at full price for the packet 121 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: of ten. But as I said myself, I tend to 122 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: buy them when they're sort of thirty fifty percent off 123 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: and get them at a much cheaper price point and 124 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: stock them up because you can save a significant amount 125 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: of money with those. Have you had any clients who 126 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: have used I know mostly your clients that are female, 127 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: that any of their kids or anyone you know had 128 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: any of these to try. 129 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: My sisters definitely use them with her little bub who's 130 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: watch she now probably about fourteen fifteen months, so she 131 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: definitely likes these as well. But as you said, she 132 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: definitely does it where she just puts it into a 133 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: SnapLock bag and she'll give her three or four at 134 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: a time, and that little even twenty grand pack at 135 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: how small it is, will last her sort of three 136 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: or four days. And that's the thing I think a 137 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: lot of parents so giving kids snack foods and not 138 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: just one packet, like it's routine to open a lunch box. 139 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: When I used to work as a public house nutrition 140 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: a SUSI We used to do lunchbox audits of the 141 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: daycare and the primary school, and you would easily like 142 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: you'd open a lunch box up and you'd see three, four, five, 143 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: six package snacks in those lunch boxes. So I really 144 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: do like your sort of formula of opening a packet 145 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: and sort of splitting it up either between kids or 146 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: just splitting it up, you know, over a couple of 147 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: days for the one child, because as you said, like 148 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: it is it is a processed food. Is the better 149 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: of a bad bunch, but it is, you know, nutritionally, 150 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: is actually quite strong. And I like the fact that 151 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: there's two grams of fiber in a small packet as well. 152 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: That's actually quite a lot of fiber for twenty grams 153 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: and we're not getting in a whole bulk of that. 154 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: They're not adding in a ton of extra probotic fibers 155 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: or it's not like it's sort of artificial type of 156 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: fiber either. It's really the fibers coming from the fact 157 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: that they've got a good blend of whole grain flour 158 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: mixes plus the chickpea fiber in there as well, which 159 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: is which is ideal because a lot of kids if 160 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: they're just not simply eating enough veggies, which means that 161 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: they're not getting in enough fiber as well. So not 162 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: the way saying you should definitely get your fiber from 163 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: package products, but it is a little bit of a 164 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: benefit of something like these snacks to be whole grain 165 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: based and contain a little bit of fibers. So I 166 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: think the brand overall is quite good, and it does 167 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: market it under Freedom Foods, isn't it, which we know 168 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: is quite a strong brand health wise for a lot 169 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: of their products. So good to see that they've come 170 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: up with something that's, you know, somewhat nutritionally high compared 171 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: to other products in that market, and also appeals to 172 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: kids as well. 173 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: I can't agree more with young kids. I see it 174 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: all the time that parents will pack so many carbohydrate 175 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: based snacks for trips to the park, and we're talking 176 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: two and three year olds going through a packet. It's 177 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 2: just way too much for a packet for little kids. 178 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't give kids a whole packet of snack food 179 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: like this until they're eight or ten years of age, 180 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: which means that two and three year olds need have 181 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: just a few of these mixed in with their cut 182 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: up vegetables and cut up fruit, So that's a really 183 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: good take home message. The other thing I'll say about 184 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: a lot of these products is You've got to check 185 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: because some do have added MSG, which we've spoken about previously, 186 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: additive six to one, and even though they may look healthy, 187 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: some of the pea snaps and flavored products still contain 188 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: it in kids snacks. So one of the reasons I'm 189 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: a fan of this Messy Monkey's brand as a whole 190 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: is that they're only using natural flavors, so really check that. 191 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: You definitely don't want to see flavor enhancers in any 192 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: kid's snack food in general. So that's a big reason 193 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: that I'm not a big fan of some of the 194 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: flavored packets of biscuits and sneak pea snacks that are 195 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: out there at the moment. So the other product I've chosen, Leanne, 196 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: is actually a rice based snack. Now, as a rule 197 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: of thumb, historically, myself, as a dietitian, I don't like 198 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: rice based snacks. And the reason I don't like them 199 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: is that it's often the most highest glycemic index carbohydrate 200 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: we can find in rice crackers in particular, So as 201 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: a reference ten rice crackers is the equivalent of about 202 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: two slices of bread worth of carbohydrate, and it's really 203 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: rapidly digested carbohydrate. And they're often historically being flavored also 204 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: with MSG. But there is a lot of kids rice 205 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: snacks out there, and this one we've chosen today, the 206 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: sun Rice Mini Bites, is one of the ones that 207 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: I don't mind actually compared to the ones we've often 208 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: had out there, because it's made from a whole grain 209 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: brown rice. We know that white rice is a refined grain, 210 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: very high GI. It lacks the nutritional density of brown rice. 211 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: So these are a whole grain brown rice eighty five percent. 212 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: The next ingredient ones I've chosen the salt and vinegar, 213 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: but there is actually plain as well, which are eliminating 214 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: some of these flavors that come with it. The next 215 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: ingredients vegetable oil, seasoning with some molded extra and food acid, salt, sugar, mineral, 216 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: saltsyeste extra, it may starch, vegetable oil. If you wanted 217 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: to get rid of all of that, you could choose 218 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: the plain blue packet, so there's definitely options for that. Again, 219 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: it's a twenty gram pack size which comes in at 220 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: less than that one hundred calorie per serve or three 221 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: fifty six kilogels one and a half grams of protein, 222 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: which is coming from that brown rice saturated fat. Very low. Again, 223 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: very similar to the Messi monkeys at point zero three 224 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: per serve, fourteen point five grams of carbohydrate, minimal sugars 225 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: zero point four grams wouldn't even count, not as much 226 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: dietary fiber as the whole grain variety of Messi monkeys 227 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: at less than a gram. I would generally like the 228 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: kid snack food to have at least two three of 229 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: either protein or dietary fiber. So this one's coming in 230 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: a little bit low there. But it's a flavored brown 231 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: rice product, which is pretty innocent and again in my experience, 232 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: a product the kids are likely to eat and a 233 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: million times better than a rice cracker because of that 234 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: brown rice base. So yeah, and I think there's flavored 235 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: options and plain options, to mean, if you wanted to 236 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: get rid of some of those colors and things from that, 237 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: you'd have a pretty plain snack that's got a bit 238 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: of flavor to it and the kids are likely to accept. 239 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: And I think overall, just looking at the quantity per 240 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: serving even though the twenty grand packet is quite small, 241 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, you got fourteen and a half grams of 242 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: carbohydrate in the serving, so that's equivalent to about a 243 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: slice of bread. And so I think when parents are 244 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: really adding in a couple of these into the lunch boxes, 245 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: or they're giving the kids a couple of these packaged 246 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: snack products at the park, then they're getting home and 247 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: expecting a child to eat a lunch or a dinner, 248 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: and the kid's full. This is probably the reason because 249 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, children are just over consuming 250 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: carbohydrates at snack times. So that's why your formula from 251 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: the podcast on Sunday was really really helpful in terms 252 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: of just you know, making sure they're getting in some 253 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: veggies and some protein and some you know, salads and 254 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: a piece of fruit or something, versus just too many 255 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: of these package products, which we know parents use more 256 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: for convenience but also because kids obviously really like them. 257 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: So I do think that that's an easy way to 258 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: compare it. So this is sort of a little packet 259 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: of this is equivalent to about a slice of bread, 260 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: which I think for parents to understand that is actually 261 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: quite a powerful marketing message. As well. So I do 262 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: like your idea of sort of splitting it up and 263 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: not giving them a whole packet, particularly if they're a 264 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: younger child, you know, three, four, five, six years old 265 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: as well. Well. I do like that the sun rice 266 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: ones are Australian based rice because I think that that's 267 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: an important concept. And I've got a little bit off tangent, 268 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: but stay with me, Susie. A lot of times when 269 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of pregnant ladies say to me, oh, 270 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: can I have protein powder? If it's a vegan based protein, 271 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: just be very very careful with brown rice protein because 272 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the times we don't know where the 273 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: rice is grown, and a lot of times it's in 274 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: countries that are not Australia, and there's a lot of 275 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: kind of harmful minerals and that sort of thing in 276 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: the soil, particularly if you know the brown rice is 277 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: coming from somewhere in Asia or something like that. So 278 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: very much the recommendations for like protein powder and pregnancy 279 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: or no go with a brown rice type protein, and 280 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I would imagine it's very much the same. You know, 281 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: you would want the rice in a kids based product, 282 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: You would want to know where that's coming from or 283 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: where that's grown, because there are a lot of harmful 284 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: chemicals in the ground if it's not sort of an 285 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Austraine based product. So for me, one of the big 286 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: props is is that it is they're sourcing the rice 287 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: from Australia, so I think that that's very helpful in 288 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: a kids based product. 289 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: That's a really good tip. I think a lot of 290 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: people will find that really really interesting and just something. 291 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: I will just track down the price of these per packet. 292 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: But the other thing I wanted to mention was looking 293 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: at the sodium of the rice, the flavored rice variety. 294 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: So these are currently on sale. Again, they're usually five 295 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: dollars per pack of eight, and they are half prices. 296 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: I said to get it at the moment at really, 297 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: so yeah, I would definitely seek them out when they're 298 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: on sale. But what I will say is that the 299 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: flavored varieties, the sodium per undergrams is over six hundred, 300 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: which is actually quite high. We normally recommend snack food 301 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: or any foods to be less than about three hundred 302 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: milligrams per hundred. Now it's kind of saved with the 303 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: serving size being quite small, but just be mindful there 304 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: is a little bit of added salt that does get 305 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: sort of slip into these products to give them some flavor, 306 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: and the Messy Monkeys is a little bit lower compared 307 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: to the brown rice sun rice rice snacks, So that 308 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: is something to be aware of. But the other thing 309 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: I wanted just to mention before we wrap it uply 310 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: and is we've spoken before on podcasts about the addition 311 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: of vegetable oils in the food supply, and if you 312 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: looked at these nutritional labels, that's quite high on there. 313 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: It's not ideal, but as we've mentioned, because it's small served, 314 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: that's actually quite little, and if it's a loafat product 315 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: as these are, it's not as much cause for concerns. 316 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: So yes, I'm hearing what you're saying when you see 317 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: vegetable oil on the label, But when you see a product, 318 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: for example, that's eighty five percent whole grain brown rice, 319 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: it means that overall the amounts of oils and little 320 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: bits of sugar and salt slipping it are actually quite small, 321 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: so it's no need for concern in a relatively low 322 00:13:59,360 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: fat food. 323 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: I definitely think these are, as we keep saying, the 324 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: better options if you were if you were going to 325 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: get a package product for children as well. But I 326 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: really again so probably a third time, like the idea 327 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: of splitting up and not sort of offering these sorts 328 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: of things every single day and making it more like 329 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: a treat versus something that you see two or three 330 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: portions of in a lunch box every single day. So 331 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: I will end in that with that sort of tip 332 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: where these are sort of, even though they're better products, 333 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: that we still want to consider them as more of 334 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: like a treat and really do focus on the serving 335 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: of you know, one or two servings of calcium every 336 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: single day, one or two servings of fruit, one or 337 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: two servings of vegetables every single day. And if your 338 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: kids are getting home and they're too full for the 339 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: main meal or they're not eating a proper dinner or 340 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: proper lunch, probably because you're overfeeding them from a snack 341 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: based perspective or as zzi. Well, that wraps us up 342 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: for our many little new product segment of the week. 343 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: So if you guys haven't subscribed already, please do so 344 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: to the Nutrition Couch podcast and we're on our Facebook 345 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: and our Instagram socials. We're at the Nutrition Couch podcast 346 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and we will catch you guys next Sunday for our 347 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: brand new episode drop. 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