1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: It's lunchbox season and that means lunchbox snacks, and aren't 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: there millions of them to choose from. We could literally 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: spend hours reviewing all of our lunch box friendly snacks, 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: but today we've chosen just two of our favorites. But 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: just in case you wan't aware, Hi, I'm Leanne. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: Ward and I'm Susie Burrow, and. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Nutrition Couch. We are two of Austraya's 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: leading dietitians bringing you all the new things on trending 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: nutrition news topics, health food product reviews and also our 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: listener questions of the week. And this is our new 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: mini segment on product reviews, and this week we are 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: chatting all things lunch box snacks. So I'm going to 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: hand over to you, Susie, to take the reins on 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: the first product that we've chosen, which I know for 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: you is one of your favorites. Now we must disclose 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: this is not a sponsors segment. If we ever do 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: a sponsors segment, we will absolutely let you guys know 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: and be fully transparent. So Susie's chosen one of her 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: favorite products this week, which is the Messy Monkey's Whole 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Grain buttes beautiful. 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: So I think, first of all, we will preface this 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: by saying that we are not saying by any means 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: that processed snacks for children are ever preferable to whole 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: foods like our yo playing yogurt or milk, or dairy 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: or fruit. But what we are saying is that, of 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: course people do buy package snacks for children. Children often 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: seek package snacks, and there are a million of them 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: out there, and there are certainly ones the end that 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: are much better than others. So I thought today, rather 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: than perhaps target ones we're not that much of a 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: fan of, because so many mums listen and we know 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: that you're looking for healthier options, I will really focus 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: on two of my favorite ones because I think there's 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: plenty of things to talk about with them. So the 35 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: first is a brand you'll all be very familiar with. 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: It's the Messy Monkeys Whole Grain Bites. So Messy Monkeys 37 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: have a range of bars and breakfast cereal, but I've 38 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: specifically chosen the whole grain bites, which come in the 39 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: individual packets because inevitably, in my experience, kids are looking 40 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: for things in little packets, even though that's not great 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: for the environment. Let's again preface by saying that, and 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: I've chosen the ones that are Burger flavor because the 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: reason I've done that is that, in my experience, you 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: can't just replace a diesel with something boring. It's got 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: to be similar in taste, in texture, Otherwise the kids 46 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: just won't eat it and you waste your money. So 47 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: the Messy Monkeys, after several formulations, have come up with 48 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: a whole grain bytes, which nutritionally are pretty goodly in 49 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: and definitely recently when we had the Healthy Food Guide Awards, 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: they did very well in voted by several different independent dietitians. 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: The ingredients, so they come in a pack I think 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: of ten of individual twenty grams serving sizes. Nutritionally, that's 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: less than one hundred calories, which is always my reference 54 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: for a package snack food for children. It's got to 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: be less than one hundred calories. So these are eighty five, 56 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: which is three hundred and fifty eight killer jaws one 57 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: point seven grams of protein, so they're not getting a 58 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: huge amount of protein, a little bit from the whole grain. 59 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: No gluten, so no detectable gluten in this product, so 60 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: suiting gluten free people less than three percent saturated fat, 61 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: so only three point six grams of total fat one 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: less than one gram saturated, so very good. They're minimal 63 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: added sugar is none, so zero point two grams and 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: just eleven point five grams of carbohydrate per serve, which 65 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: is a good good amount. Two grams of fiber which 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: is not insignificant for children, and sodium seventy nine milligrams. Now, 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: people get quite confused with sodium because seventy nine they 68 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: think that sounds high. But we've roughly got about two 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: thousand per day to play with, so in the scheme 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: of kids snacks, this is pretty low per serve. That's 71 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: being helped by the fact it's a small serving size. Admittedly, 72 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: they're gluten free, wheat free, thirty six percent whole grain, 73 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: which is where our fiber is coming from. They classify 74 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: for a source of fiber, no artificial color, s flavors, preservative, 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: and it's a four health star rating. Now, if I 76 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: look at the ingredient mix, the flour mix is whole 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: grain sorgum twenty four percent maize, rice whole grain quinoir, 78 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: followed by canola oil, chickpea, fiber, natural flavors, a little 79 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: bit of sugar, salt, vegetable powder for the flavor, cocoa powder, 80 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: a multifier. So again, Leanne, you could look at that 81 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: ingredient list and say, oh, it's got extra oil added, 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: it's got extra sugar. But what we know nutritionally is 83 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: is because this is a very small packer. This is 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: twenty grand. This is like literally a tablespoon worth of weight. 85 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: Even though there is a little bit added sugar, a 86 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: little bit added salt. In the rand scheme of diet, 87 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: this is very small and certainly it's up the top 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: of what's available for children. So I would describe this, 89 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: for want of a better description, one of the best 90 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: of what we would describe is a bad bunch in 91 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: the sense of being a processed food. So the best 92 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: of something that we want to include minimally and the diet. 93 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: But for me Lea, and most importantly, when you give 94 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: the kids these, they eat them and they like them, 95 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: because there's plenty of snacks out there a similar format 96 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: that the kids just won't eat because they don't taste 97 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: grape and they don't taste like what they're expecting from 98 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: a chip. They're crunchy, they're very small. As I've described before, 99 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: with my twins, I won't give them a whole packet 100 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: of these. I'll break it open and give them a 101 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: few at each of their lunchboxes, and they're very happy 102 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: with that. Because they're any little, they don't need to 103 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: be eating buckets of snack food. But in general, I 104 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: think there's about four or five different flavors. There's a 105 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: sour cream, there's a cheese, one, a barbecue, there's several 106 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: salt and vinegar, so it's lots of different flavor profiles. 107 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: They're child friendly, they're in a bright colored bag. They're 108 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: sold in generally the healthy section of supermarket, and I 109 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: often get them when they're on sale because they're often 110 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: coming up as half price, and I'll have a quick 111 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: look now because I haven't actually put it in here 112 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: what they retail at per packet normally, but I tend 113 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: to with all kids snack food, wait until it's on 114 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: sale because it's often half price, and let's be honest, 115 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: we we all like to save a bit of money. 116 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: So I'll buy a few when they're on sale, and 117 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: probably at the moment, there's quite a few on sale 118 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: because they're being marketed at supermarket. 119 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: So I've just had a. 120 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: Little look and they're about five dollars for the box 121 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: at full price for the packet of ten. But as 122 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: I said myself, I tend to buy them when they're 123 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: sort of thirty fifty percent off and get them at 124 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: a much cheaper price point and stock them up because 125 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: you can save a significant amount of money with those. 126 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Have you had any clients who have used I know 127 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: mostly your clients that are female, that any of their 128 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: kids or anyone you know had any of these to try. 129 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: My sisters definitely use them with her little bub who's 130 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: watch she now probably about fourteen fifteen months, so she 131 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: definitely likes these as well. But as you said, she 132 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: definitely does it where she just puts it into a 133 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: snap block bag and she'll give her three or four 134 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: at a time, and that little even twenty grand pack 135 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: at how small it is, will last her sort of 136 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: three or four days. And that's the thing I think 137 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot of parents and so giving kids snack foods 138 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: and not just one packet, like it's routine to open 139 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: a lunch box. When I used to work as a 140 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: public house nutrition a SUSI, we used to do lunch 141 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: box audits of the daycare and the primary school, and 142 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: you would easily like you'd open a lunch box up 143 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and you'd see three, four, five, six package snacks in 144 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: those lunch boxes. So I really do like your sort 145 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: of formula of opening a packet and sort of splitting 146 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: it up either between kids or just splitting it up, 147 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, over a couple of days for the one child, 148 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: because as you said, like it is it is a 149 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: processed food. Is the better of a bad bunch, but 150 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: it is, you know, nutritionally, is actually quite strong. And 151 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: I like the fact that there's two grams of fiber 152 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: in a small packet as well. That's actually quite a 153 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: lot of fiber for twenty grams, and we're not getting 154 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: in a whole bulk of that. They're not adding in 155 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: a ton of extra probotic fibers or it's not like 156 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: it's sort of artificial type of fiber either. It's really 157 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: the fibers coming from the fact that they've got a 158 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: good blend of whole grain flour mixes plus the chickpea 159 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: fiber in there as well, which is which is ideal 160 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: because a lot of kids they're just not simply eating 161 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: enough veggies, which means that they're not getting in enough 162 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: fiber as well. So not the way saying you should 163 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: definitely get your fiber from package products, but it is 164 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of a benefit of something like these 165 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: snacks to be whole grain based and contain a little 166 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: bit of fibers. So I think the brand overall is 167 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: quite good, and it does market it under Freedom Foods, 168 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: isn't it, which we know is quite a strong brand 169 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: health wise for a lot of their products. So good 170 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: to see that they've come up with something that's, you know, 171 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: somewhat nutritionally high compared to other products in that market, 172 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: and also appeals to kids as well. 173 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: I can't agree more with young kids. I see it 174 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: all the time that parents will pack so many carbohydrate 175 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: based snacks for trips to the park, and we're talking 176 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: two and three year olds going through a packet. There's 177 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: just way too much for a packet for little kids. 178 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 2: I wouldn't give kids a whole packet of snack food 179 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: like this until they're eight or ten years of age, 180 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: which means that two and three year olds need just 181 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: a few of these mixed in with their cut up 182 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: vegetables and cut up fruit. So that's a really good 183 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: take home message. The other thing I'll say about a 184 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: lot of these products is You've got to check because 185 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: some do have added MSG, which we've spoken about previously, 186 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: additive six to one, and even though they may look healthy, 187 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: some of the pea snaps and flavored products still contain 188 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: it in kids snacks. So one of the reasons I'm 189 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: a fan of this Messy Monkey's brand as a whole 190 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: is that they're only using natural flavors, so really check that. 191 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: You definitely don't want to see flavor enhancers in any 192 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: kid's snack food in general. So that's a big reason 193 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: that I'm not a big fan of some of the 194 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: flavored packets of biscuits and sneak pea snaps that are 195 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: out there at the moment. So the other product I've chosen, Leanne, 196 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: is actually a rice based snack. Now, as a rule 197 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: of thumb, historically myself, as a dietitian, I don't like 198 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: rice based snacks. And the reason I don't like them 199 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: is that it's often the most highest glycemic index carbohydrate 200 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: we can find in rice crackers in particular, So as 201 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: a reference, ten rice crackers is the equivalent of about 202 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: two slices of bread worth of carbohydrate, and it's really 203 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: rapidly digested carbohydrate, and they're often historically being flavored also 204 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: with MSG. But there is a lot of kids rice 205 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: snacks out there, and this one we've chosen today, the 206 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: sun Rice Mini Bites, is one of the ones that 207 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: I don't mind actually compared to the ones we've often 208 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: had out there, because it's made from a whole grain 209 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: brown rice. We know that white rice is a refined grain, 210 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: very high gied, lacks the nutritional density of brown rice, 211 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: so these are a whole grain brown rice eighty five percent. 212 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: The next ingredient ones I've chosen the salt and vinegar, 213 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: but there is actually plain as well, which are eliminating 214 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: some of these flavors that come with it. The next 215 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: ingredients vegetable oil, seasoning with some molded extra and food acid, salt, sugar, 216 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: mineral salts, yeste extra, It may starch, vegetable oil. If 217 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: you wanted to get rid of all of that, you 218 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: could choose the plain blue packet, so there's definitely options 219 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: for that. Again, it's a twenty gram pack size, which 220 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: comes in at less than that one hundred calorie per 221 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: serve or three fifty six kilogels one and a half 222 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: grams of protein, which is coming from that brown rice 223 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: saturated fat. Very low, again, very similar to the Messi 224 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: monkeys at point zero three per serve, fourteen point five 225 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: grams of carbohydrate, minimal sugars zero point four grams wouldn't 226 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: even count, not as much dietary fiber as the whole 227 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: grain variety of Messi monkeys at less than a gram. 228 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: I would generally like the kids snack food to have 229 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: at least two three of either protein or dietary fiber. 230 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: So this one's coming in a little bit low there. 231 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: But it's a flavored brown rice product, which is pretty 232 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: innocent and again in my experience, a product the kids 233 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: are likely to eat and a million times better than 234 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: a rice cracker because of that brown rice base. So yeah, 235 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: and I think there's flavored options and plain options to mean, 236 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: if you wanted to get rid of some of those 237 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: colors and things from that, you'd have a pretty plain 238 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: snack that's got a bit of flavor to it and 239 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: the kids are likely to accept. 240 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: And I think overall, just looking at the quantity per serving, 241 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: even though the twenty grand packet is quite small. You know, 242 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: you got fourteen and a half grams of carbohydrate in 243 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the serving, so that's equivalent to about a slice of bread. 244 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: And so I think when parents are really adding in 245 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: a couple of these into the lunch boxes, or they're 246 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: giving the kids a couple of these packaged snack products 247 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: at the park and they're getting home and expecting a 248 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: child to eat a lunch or a dinner, and the 249 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: kid's full, this is probably the reason because a lot 250 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: of you know, children are just over consuming carbohydrates at 251 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: snack times. So that's why your formula from the podcast 252 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday was really really helpful in terms of just 253 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, making sure they're getting in some veggies and 254 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: some protein and some you know, salads and a piece 255 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: of fruit or something versus just too many of these 256 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: packaged products, which we know parents use more for convenience 257 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: but also because kids obviously really like them. So I 258 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: do think that that's an easy way to compare it. 259 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: So this is sort of a little packet of this 260 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: is equivalent to about a slice of bread, which I 261 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: think for parents to understand that is actually quite a 262 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: powerful marketing message as well. So I do like your 263 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: idea of sort of splitting it up and not giving 264 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: them a whole packet, particularly if they're a younger child, 265 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, three, four, five, six years old as well. Well. 266 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: I do like that the sun rice ones are Australian 267 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: based rice because I think that that's an important concept. 268 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: And I've got a little bit off tangent, but stay 269 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: with me, Susie. A lot of times, when you know 270 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: a lot of pregnant ladies say to me, oh, can 271 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: I have protein powder? If it's a vegan based proteins, 272 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: they just be very very careful with brown rice protein 273 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: because a lot of the times we don't know where 274 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: the rice is grown, and a lot of times it's 275 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: in countries that are not Australia, and there's a lot 276 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: of kind of harmful minerals and that sort of thing 277 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: in the soil, particularly if you know the brown rice 278 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: is coming from somewhere in Asia or something like that. 279 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: So very much the recommendations for like protein powder and 280 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: pregnancy are and no, go with a brown rice type protein. 281 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: And I would imagine it's very much the same. You know, 282 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: you would want the rice in a kid's based product, 283 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: you would want to know where that's coming from or 284 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: where that's grown, because there are a lot of harmful 285 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: chemicals in the ground if it's not sort of an 286 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: austrain based product. So for me, one of the big 287 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: props is is that it is they're sourcing the rice 288 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: from Australia, so I think that that's very helpful in 289 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: a kids based product. 290 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: That's a really good tip. I think a lot of 291 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: people will find that really really interesting and just something. 292 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: I will just track down the price of these per packet. 293 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: But the other thing I wanted to mention was looking 294 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: at the sodium of the rice, the flavored rice variety. 295 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: So these are currently on sale again, they're usually five 296 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: dollars per pack of eight, and they're half prices. I 297 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: said to get it at the moment at Wally. So yeah, 298 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: I would definitely seek them out when they're on sale. 299 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: But what I will say is that the flavored varieties, 300 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: the sodium per undergrams is over six hundred, which is 301 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: actually quite high. We normally recommend snack food or any 302 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: foods to be less than about three hundred milligrams per hundred. 303 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: Now it's kind of saved with the serving size being 304 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: quite small, but just be mindful there is a little 305 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: bit of added salt that does get sort of slip 306 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: into these products to give them some flavor. And the 307 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: Messy Monkeys is a little bit lower compared to the 308 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: brown rice sun rice rice snacks, so that is something 309 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: to be aware of. But the other thing I wanted 310 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: just to mention before we wrap it uply and is 311 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: we've spoken before on podcasts about the addition of vegetable 312 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: oils in the food supply, and if you looked at 313 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: these nutritional labels, that's quite high on there. It's not ideal, 314 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: but as we've mentioned, because it's small serve, that's actually 315 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: quite little, and if it's a loafat product as these are, 316 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: it's not as much cause for concern. So yes, I'm 317 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: hearing what you're saying when you see vegetable oil on 318 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: the label, But when you see a product, for example, 319 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: that's eighty five percent whole grain brown rice, it means 320 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: that overall the amounts of oils and little bits of 321 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: sugar and salt slipping it are actually quite small, So 322 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: it's no need for concerning a relatively low fat food. 323 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: I definitely think these are, as you keep saying, the 324 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: better options if you were if you were going to 325 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: get a packaged product for children as well, but I 326 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: really again so probably at third time, like the idea 327 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: of splitting up and not sort of offering these sorts 328 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: of things every single day and making it more like 329 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: a treat versus something that you see two or three 330 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: portions of in a lunch box every single day. So 331 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: I will end in that with that sort of tip 332 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: where these are sort of, even though they're better products, 333 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: that we still want to consider them as more of 334 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: like a treat and really do focus on the serving 335 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: of you know, one or two servings of calcium every 336 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: single day, one or two servings of fruit, one or 337 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: two servings of vegetables every single day. And if your 338 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: kids are getting home and they're too full for the 339 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: main meal or they're not eating a proper dinner or 340 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: proper lunch, probably because you're overfeeding them from a snack 341 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: based perspective. All as zzi well, that wraps us up 342 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: for our many little new product segment of the week. 343 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: So if you guys haven't subscribed you already, please do 344 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: so to the Nutrition Couch podcast and we're on our 345 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Facebook and our Instagram socials. We're at the Nutrition Couch 346 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: Podcast and we will catch you guys next Sunday for 347 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: our brand new episode drop. And don't forget the mini 348 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: episod jops just like this one, happen on a Wednesday 349 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: now as well as You're getting a double dose of 350 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: Sissy and I twice a week from here on out, 351 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: and 352 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing your lunchboxes in the next 353 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: few weeks.