1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Olivia Rodgers defends her decision 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: to introduce alcohol back into her life. Mitch Third says 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't need Instagram to make his business a success 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: as he launches a new brand, and Mitch Orville becomes 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: the face of a house giveaway. I'm Kate Torbert and 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I have absolutely been loving the trend popping up on 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: TikTok of people sharing themselves using the gender swap app 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: and usually it's accompanied by the caption if you wouldn't 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: date yourself, lower your standards? Have you guys done the 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: swap on yourselves? And would you date yourself? It has 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: been very humbling for people on TikTok, but I have 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: had the reverse because I quite like the male version 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: of me. I feel like I look like zac Efron. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. See, I don't think 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: that we do. I mean, obviously our male swaps look 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: quite similar because we're identical. I don't think that it 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: does look like well, have you seen me, No, Sophie does. 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: I think because it's the blonde hair, it's come through 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: as blonde highlights. She actually does look like zac Efron, 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: and you do the beard function as well, I think 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: we need to share it in our group for people 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: to say whether she looks Say tell us if you 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: would date Sophie as a man. I definitely would. I 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: definitely would. I think it's hard because I did the 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: gender swap to Dale and I, and because Dale was 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: so much taller than me. I just look like this 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: tiny man. So it's really hard to get engauge on 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: a couple photo of yourself. You've turned him into a 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: woman and you. It needs to be a selfie, I think, 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: to get because otherwise you look a bit like a 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: weedy man next to someone told Laura Henshaw was looking 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: quite hot. She did it on her TikTok and she 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of looked like the professor from Money Highs. Did 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: you see her? Yeah? I did see her. She looks 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: good as a guy, obviously looks good as a girl too. 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: Did Steph Clare Smith do it? Yeah she did. She 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: looked good, but yeah, not as good as Laura. Do 38 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: you know who looked good as a girl? Was Reese? 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: I feel like he he did look good. Yeah, he 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: did well. Andy Lee, I would say, has the greatest 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: one of these gender swaps, because he shared his with 42 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the caption when you use the gender swap app and 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: realize you look like your mate's wife. He then captioned 44 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: the video Hamish hazard type he definitely does. He did 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: look a lot like Zoe Foster Blake. That's kind of disturbing, 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because then you're like, is he in love 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: with me? I wonder what that was like for Hamish 48 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: to see Andy as a woman, because it kind of 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld when George starts 50 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: dating a woman that looks like Jerry and has the 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: same attribute because yeah, I remember she cuts her hair 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: and then he's like, oh my god, could I have 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: everything that I have with Jerry? But just the sex 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: is like it was just such an iconic episode. 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: Janet George's girlfriend Elene thinks she looks like me, but 56 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: I think it says you would say cookie to hey, 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: and you must look exactly like Jerry. 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: We predicted it wouldn't take long for Justin mckeane's dating 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: life to hit the headlines, and we were right. Olivia 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers's ex husband was spotted at a boxing event in 61 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Melbourne with not one but two former Bachelor contestants, which 62 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: is causing some canon Kate who were the Bachelor contestants 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: in question. We'll see. I actually haven't watched The Bachelor 64 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: for a long time, so I was kind of confused 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: as to who these women were. So the two contestants 66 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: are from the most recent series, and the first is 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: called Leah Cummins, who ended up getting engaged to Thomas 68 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: on the finale of the show. That didn't last long though, 69 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: with the couple calling it quits hours after the finale aired. 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: I assume she's no relation to Nick Cummins, who was 71 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: the Honey Badger Bachelor a couple of years ago. Well, 72 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so. She's an Adelaide girl, which I 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: did like now. The second Bachelor contestant is Tash Candy's 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: from the same series and she was known as the 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: villain on that show. So both women were spotted with 76 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Justin at the boxing event, and Tash posted Instagram stories 77 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: of Justin, while Leah shared a story of Justin. Tash 78 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: and another woman standing together talking at the event. And 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Leah has been pretty active on Justin's socials. She's commented 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: on his two most recent posts. On a photo of Justin, 81 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: she added a smiley face emoji, wearing sunglasses. Then, on 82 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: another vodo of Justin dressed all in black to attend 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: a wedding, she wrote black bring Sexy back, and she 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: added a black love heart. It was super awkward because 85 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Justin and Olivia actually attended the same wedding for a 86 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: mutual friend, and I was so I was trolling through 87 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: the Instagram stories trying to spot if either one of 88 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: them was in the background of the photos. I wonder 89 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: if Leah put this comment as a bit of a 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm with him now to a movie. Oh well, 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: you can't tell me that Justin has a bit of 92 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: clout as being Olivia's ex, because I feel like if 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: he was just some random guy, like he's an attractive 94 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: looking guy, but because of his association, yeah Olivia, you're like, Wow, 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: maybe Justin's just decided to run his own private series 96 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor where he just starts dating a number 97 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: of the girls. Well, there is a lot of confusion 98 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: because So Dramatic is reporting that Justin and Leah are dating, 99 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: whereas the Daily Mail are reporting that Justin and Tash 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: are an item. So So Dramatic quoted unnamed sources that 101 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: allegedly have seen Leah and Justin working out together at 102 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: the gym, and another unnamed so claim that they were dating, 103 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: but it's only early days now. So Dramatic backed it 104 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: up by contacting Justin and Leah for comments, and their 105 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: responses were interesting. So Leah said we're just friends at 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: this stage, while Justin flat out denied the rumor, saying 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: absolutely not. I'm looking forward to dating, but it's not 108 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: with Leah. Now. This is where things get interesting, because 109 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: Tash followed up by sharing a screenshot of a Daily 110 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: Mail article where she was photographed next to Justin, and 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: she added the song players to their story and then 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: also put a clown emoji over Justin's face. So I 113 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: don't know if she was saying, oh, he's played us both, 114 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: or if she was referencing that he'd played her friend Leah. 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: I think it's clear that he's probably been dating both girls, 116 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: but why would they both attend an event with him? 117 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Like that's just playing with fire, Like maybe it's only 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: one of them. I think that Tash shared this in 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: defense of her friend, because her friend Leah probably feels 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: like a bit of an idiot because she's out there saying, yeah, 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: we're just getting to know each other and he's like, 122 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: absolutely not. It's a bit embarrassing for Leah, as you said, 123 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: because imagine, you know, putting it out there that you 124 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: did like him, but things were sort of just friends 125 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: at the moment, and then he's like publicly not interested. Well, 126 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: I do find it interesting that he does seem more 127 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: comfortable to be out on the scene at the moment. Obviously, 128 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Olivia has very publicly moved on with Morgan Waterhouse. He 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: clearly has free reign now to do whatever he likes 130 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: with no judgment put on it. Well, we don't really 131 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: know what has happened between these two, and I think 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that if you know Olivia is moving on and being happy, 133 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: then we would want the same for Justice. I mean, 134 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about how he has clout as being the 135 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: ex husband of Olivia Rodgers. But I think also what 136 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: would come with that is also a bit of a 137 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: question mark around him, because Olivia did say some not 138 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: so becoming things of him in a number of podcast interviews. 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see him as the next Bachelor on Channel ten. 140 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I'd actually tuned in to see that. I went too 141 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: well for me. 142 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: Being canceled in twenty twenty three is a Badge of Honor. 143 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: Honestly, Mitch Third is launching a new pre workout drink 144 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: to the market after selling his reusable drink bottle company. 145 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: Controversial entrepreneur and boyfriend of Instagram says he doesn't need 146 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: his forty two thousand followers to make his business a success. Kay, 147 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: can you tell us more about this new business venture? Well, firstly, 148 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Mitch had sold his drink bottle company, 149 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Third Fix. His Instagram bio stated that he was the 150 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: founder of third Fix, but he has now listed the 151 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: company as sold slash exited. Now it appears Mitch's putting 152 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: all his energy behind this new pre workout drink venture 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: and also the other business that he owns called New 154 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Rich Group, which he lists himself as the co founder of. Now, 155 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the New Rich Group appears to be a course he 156 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: provides on how to set up Amazon stores and automate them, 157 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: and according to its Instagram account, it has seventy five 158 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: plus current members. Classic name for a business venture. It 159 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: just reminds me of those guys on TikTok that are 160 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: talking about their cryptocurrency and how much they're making. He 161 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: should have just called it nuvou rich, Yeah, get rich quick. 162 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Now as the for the pre workout drink brand, it's 163 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: called Let's Go Energy, and Mitch just started the company 164 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: with his cousin Robbie and they have an operations manager 165 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: on staff. Now, the name is a little bit confusing, 166 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: as many people have assumed it was a traditional caffeinated 167 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: energy drink, but it's actually a pre workout drink. Because 168 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: as soon as I heard about it, I was like, Jesu, 169 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: this isn't a bright idea. He's literally copying logan Paul 170 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: and KSI. Well, I think that's actually kind of a 171 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: clever idea because obviously there's been immense popularity in the 172 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: energy drinks, particularly in the younger demographic, which is a 173 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: bit troubling. And I actually do like the name like 174 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Let's go, because he's always saying on his channel, let's go. 175 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Are you serious? I think that's not a great name. 176 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: And also it's confusing because it said let's go Energy, 177 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: But then it's not an energy drink, it's a pre workout. 178 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: I suppose pre workout and energy drinks are quite similar, 179 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: Like the energy drinks are more caffeinated and give you 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: a big boost in the one moment whereas pre workouts 181 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: are meant to give you a boost and help with 182 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: your exercise. Maybe it's so that it can move into 183 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: energy drinks as well. It's not pigeonholing himself. You want 184 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: a sort of short name for a drink, like you 185 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: go in and you get a V. When you get 186 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: a Prime, you don't go, I want to let's go energy. 187 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't really love the name. People haven't liked the 189 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: branding either. They were saying it looks like a C 190 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: four font. It's not great because it's you kind of want. 191 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what's great about Prime is they're colorful and 192 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: eye catching, and these kind of, as you said, just 193 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: look like they've been designed on word. 194 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: Well, I found it pretty interesting listening to Mitch talk 196 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: about the strategy to launch the company, because he spoke 197 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: about how previously he sold reusable products which people only 198 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: bought once or twice a year tops, whereas his new 199 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: product can be drunk daily and purchased on a subscription plan. 200 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: So he said that people can, you know, every two weeks, 201 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: have new drinks sent out to their houses. And it 202 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: may be wonder how successful was his drink bottle company 203 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: because he used to promote it as if he was 204 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: earning so much money and his business was booming, and 205 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: he really tried to position himself online as this marketing 206 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: guru that could help others. But I think because he 207 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: sold the business, it doesn't mean that it wasn't successful. 208 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: Sometimes that's a sign of the business being ultra sixs. Yeah, 209 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: but recently he got caught out sharing fake business figures 210 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: when he was trying to promote his Amazon courses, So 211 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: I think there's been a question mark about how successful 212 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: it actually is. One indication the company might not have 213 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: solved for that much is we haven't heard any media 214 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: around it. And I think about when Tayler had seen 215 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: us and Toby Pierce soold Sweat, there were so many 216 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: headlines about how many millions of dollars they'd made from it. Yeah, 217 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: but that's probably one of Australia's biggest products. Yeah. But 218 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: the fact that Mitch is so into boasting about his 219 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: businesses and his success as if he hasn't mentioned the 220 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: number to anybody, Yeah, that's true. I feel like he 221 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: probably would have mentioned it, particularly as a selling point 222 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: for these Amazon courses. Now in a badly timed Q 223 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: and a Mitch replied to a comment that said, we 224 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: need more people speaking up about these left wing ideologies. 225 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: Keep it up now. This is in reference to controversial 226 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: comments Mitch made about non binary people. Mitch responded with 227 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: a bizarre rant where he said he didn't need social 228 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: media to make him money. Let's take a listen to 229 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: what he said. 230 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: I'd want to keep speaking my truth at times on Mike, 231 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: does this serve my purpose? My purpose right now is 232 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: to inspire and motivate, Like I don't need social media 233 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: to make money, and that's why a lot of these 234 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: influencers or creators don't say anything because they're scared of 235 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: being canceled. Well, for me, being canceled in twenty twenty 236 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: three is a badge of honor, honestly. 237 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Mitch went on to say that while social media is 238 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: the driver for his business, he isn't reliant like other 239 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: influencers on his personal brand being the face of the product. 240 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: He said that his drink bottle brand made money without him, 241 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: and his new venture will make money without him as well. 242 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: He finished up by saying, my product and services speak 243 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: for themselves. That's why they have been loud on this 244 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: and will continue to speak out on this. I don't 245 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: think that's entirely true because Tarlia Scan's heavily promoted Third 246 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: Fix and I feel like that's what got a lot 247 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,119 Speaker 1: of traction onto his website. That's, of course his ex girlfriend, 248 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: and when they broke up a couple of years ago. 249 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: Now I think that his products did drop heavily in popularity. 250 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: It's extremely hypocritical, and to make matters worse, it appears 251 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: that he has switched over his old apparel company that 252 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: he shared with Tarlia Scain So that used to be 253 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Third Fixed Collection to the new drink company. So Let's 254 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Go Energy now has eleven thousand followers thanks to Tarali Escains. Wow, 255 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that they only had that few followers to 256 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: begin with. Eleven thousand on a brand page isn't huge. Well, 257 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that they dropped off because he did rename 258 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: the company after some information was leaked out of court 259 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: documents regarding his entirely as battle over the apparel company. 260 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: I think it's naive to think that you don't have 261 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: to have a good reputation as a business owner, because 262 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: what you say in the public really reflects on your brand. 263 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: As a whole. So him saying that he wants to 264 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: go ham on his own social channels and get canceled 265 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three for sticking up for what he 266 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: believes in, I think is a really bad move and 267 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: very naive. I would have loved to have seen him 268 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: do a bit of it a social experiment on TikTok 269 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: and launched a business without actually telling anybody it was 270 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: his business to have seen if that had had the 271 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: same success had he not had all of these social 272 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: media followers. Yeah. Well, it seems to be quite a 273 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: strange turnaround for him because for many months he was 274 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: trying to promote himself almost as like this marketing guru, 275 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: the next Gary Vee, and he was going to be 276 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: doing all this stuff on his YouTube channel and on 277 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: his TikTok, trying to teach people how to become a 278 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: great business person like himself. And then suddenly he's like, 279 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: oh no, my profile has nothing to do with my success. 280 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: So then he's trying to flog off courses to people 281 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: through his social follow up. I heard him talking on 282 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: Danny Kennedy's podcast and it was all about manifestation. So 283 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if there's going to be an element of 284 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: that in his course. 285 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: So I decided I was going to do thirty days 286 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: off alcohol. 287 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has defended her decision to introduce alcohol back 288 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: into her life again after a year and a half 289 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: of sobriety. Okay, can you take us back over Olivia's 290 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: journey with sobriety. So two years ago, Olivia decided to 291 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: go alcohol free and it was just for thirty days 292 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: at that point, and she docum her journey on Instagram 293 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: and announced to her two hundred thousand followers that she 294 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: was going to continue to remain sober after the initial 295 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: thirty days. And I feel like sobriety really became a 296 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: big part of Olivia's personal brand. She spoke on countless 297 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: podcasts about her relationship with alcohol and detailed the debilitating 298 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: anxiety she experienced after drinking. She even did specific alcohol 299 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: free brand deals with Dan Murphy's and I feel like 300 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: she became the face of the sober movement. In an interview, 301 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: she said, I don't really see myself ever drinking again, 302 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: and she also spoke about it as a long term 303 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: lifestyle choice and encourage others to reconsider their relationship with 304 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: alcohol and Olivia also went on to explain the really 305 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: beneficial things that happened once she quit alcohol. So she 306 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: said she no longer suffered from headaches, she sleeps better, 307 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: she had improved physical strength, and almost instantly noticed an 308 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: improvement in her mental health. And it really felt like 309 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: this was a permanent decision for Olivia. She chose not 310 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: to drink at her hands her wedding, her thirtieth birthday, 311 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: and the most this interesting detail was that it was 312 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: her fighting with her then husband, Justin McKean that made 313 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: her stop drinking. At the time, she referred to the 314 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: as silly fights, and she couldn't even tell you what 315 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: they were about or how they started. Now, just a 316 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: few weeks after announcing her breakup with her husband, Justin McKean, 317 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: followers spired that Olivia was enjoying a few glasses of 318 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: wine with her friends. They seemed to be having one 319 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: of those nights at home where everyone rallies around the 320 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: person that's been broken up with. It looked like a 321 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: pajama party, and a lot of people then slid into 322 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: Olivia's DMS, saying, oh, are you drinking again? So she 323 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: did have to reveal to her followers that she was 324 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: now comfortable having one or two drinks with friends. She wrote, so, 325 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: while I still wouldn't consider myself a drinker, I wouldn't 326 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: call myself a teetotaler anymore. For some reason, that phrase 327 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: always cracks me. On my teetotaler it just sounds like 328 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: you're the most unfun person. She also added a sting 329 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: to her ex Justin, saying that her time off alcohol 330 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: allowed her to work on herself and figure out what 331 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: she wanted and deserved. I think there's led a lot 332 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: of people to hypothesize that maybe the only reason Olivia 333 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: initially gave up alcohol was because of the fights she 334 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: was having with Justin Well in her recent update about 335 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: her drinking, reading between the lines, that's what she sounded 336 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: like she was saying. So she had a lot of 337 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: people messaging her after she attended a wine label event 338 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: on Friday night with her new boyfriend Morgan Waterhouse, and 339 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: she said that while most of the people were nice 340 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: and were just curious, some were very judgy and aggressive. 341 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: And this time Olivia decided to speak on her stories 342 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: rather than just putting up some text about what was 343 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: going on. And as I said, it does seem to 344 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: be like, she's putting a bit of the blame on 345 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Justin mcke and let's throw to what she said. 346 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: So would have constant alcohol fueled disagreements with my ex 347 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: I partner at the time, and I was just spit over it. 348 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: So I decided I was going to do thirty days 349 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: off alcohol, which became one hundred, which then became like 350 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: a year and a half. And I loved the way 351 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: it made me feel, and I thought, maybe I'll never 352 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: go back to drinking. But I also so never said 353 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: that I would never go back to it either. 354 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: Olivia then went on to say that she no longer 355 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: experiences anxiety and that her anxiety has been great the 356 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: past five to six months. She said, I feel like 357 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: alcohol exacerbates whatever you're going through at the time. So 358 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: if you're having a bad time when you drink, it's 359 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: likely to make you feel sad. But I feel really happy. 360 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: So if I have a couple of drinks, I just 361 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: have a really good time with my friends. That's where 362 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm at. She finished up by saying, do whatever you 363 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: want is the moral of the story. As much as 364 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: I agree with that statement, and it is Olivia's business 365 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: if she decides to drink again. I think it does 366 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: add a layer of complexity when she really made sobriety 367 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: a big part of her personal brand, particularly when she 368 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: has profited off sobriety with brand deals. The thing that 369 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: confuses me in Olivia's statement is that she said that 370 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: she started drinking again during the end of her relationship 371 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: with Justin. You would assume that a brokeup would be 372 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: a tough and difficult and upsetting time. So it's weird 373 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: because she's then saying that, oh, I'm tree thinking at 374 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: the moment because I'm happy. 375 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 376 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: I was very confused around that, and I think with 377 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: anxiety and mental health, it's not something that you just 378 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: sort of you can switch on and off again. I 379 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit unfair though, because people do 380 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: go through dry periods in their life. A lot of 381 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: people start off like Olivia and have the thirty days 382 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: no alcohol and then enjoy it, and then later they 383 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: bring back alcohol into them. But what's confusing is that 384 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: she really advocated strongly for other people following her steps 385 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: into sobriety. She spoke about it so much. I mean, 386 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: there were headlines in the media saying why miss Universe 387 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: Olivia Molly Rogers's ditch alcohol for good. There was a 388 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: lot of media rhetoric about this was a permanent decision, 389 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: and yes, people can change their mind. But I feel 390 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: like it's very confusing for her followers because she spoke 391 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: in detail about how debilitating her anxiety was, all these 392 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: issues that she went through, and I feel like she 393 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: can't just pop up a story like she did back 394 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: in October with a bit of writing on it to 395 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: make up for all of these interviews that she's done. 396 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: There might be a difference though, between having one or 397 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: two drinks then get it absolutely shit face, and that 398 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: sounds like what she was doing when she was having 399 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: that period of her life where she wanted to give up. 400 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: She was drinking way too much. Now she's gone. Actually 401 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: I now can have one or two drinks and enjoy me. 402 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: I get that. But what I'm saying is it's very 403 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: hard if you pitch yourself as this sober person, this 404 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: is your branding. I feel like her branding is changing 405 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: very much since her breakup. I think the whole thing 406 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: that muddies the water is the fact that she's a 407 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: mental health advocate and in giving up drinking, she touched 408 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: on a number of things as to how being sober 409 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: had positively affected her mental health. So I think it's 410 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: just difficult because I think whilst, as you say, she's 411 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: allowed to do whatever she wants, if she wants to 412 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: start drinking again, she can, But because it is now 413 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: so heavily invested in her brand as being a mental 414 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: health advocate and this sober person, it just doesn't fit now. Yeah, 415 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't fit. And I think the timing of announcing 416 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: that she was drinking again was really bad. I mean, 417 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: she announced it the month that her breakup went published. Well, 418 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't think she wanted to announce it. I think 419 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: that it was spotted in the background a couple of 420 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: posts she was always drinking non alcoholic wine. She could 421 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: have easily said, oh, that's non alcoholic. But do you 422 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: blame her for having a drink If that was the case, 423 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: if this separation was the catalyst for her having a drink, 424 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: does that matter? It's understandable, But I think that when 425 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: it's being phrased as something that is now positively affecting 426 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: her life because she's very happy now and she can 427 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: have a drink or two, it's kind of confusing. Rhetoric 428 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: because you think, if you're going through a marriage breakdown, 429 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: it'll probably be one of the lowest moments of your life, 430 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't. Alcohol is a depressant, and to be like, oh, 431 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: I haven't been anxious for five to six months. I 432 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: found that really confusing because that's when her breakup has happened. 433 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: I do worry that, you know, she's rushed into this 434 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: new relationship. Everything's always good in the honeymoon stage, and 435 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: you do wonder, like, could she not date without alcohol? 436 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: It can be hard, though, when you do label yourself 437 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: as something like, for example, we've all been vegetarian for years, 438 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: then I started introducing fish to my diet. Now I've 439 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: actually introduced chicken for my diet, and I feel really guilty, 440 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: but I feel so much better doing it. But you 441 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: do have this identity you have, oh no, I don't drinking. 442 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: So if you were an advocate for Peter and you 443 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: just suddenly started eating animal products, I feel like you'd 444 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: have to kind of explain yourself more than just putting 445 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: up a Facebook. But she has what she meant to do. 446 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: What else does she meant? I feel like she owes 447 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: it to everyone. She's opened up so much about her life, 448 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: but I feel like she does. I'm sorry. If you 449 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: take brand deals still, you can still drink non alcoholic. 450 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: The messaging behind putting her as the face of it 451 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: that was she was sober, and she's made this switch, 452 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: and I think I'm frustrated because I think she was 453 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: actually making sobriety cool and now she's kind of completely 454 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: backtracked on it. You know, I don't drink at all, 455 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed seeing her sober message and I 456 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: enjoyed seeing this. You know, the promotions that she was 457 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: doing with Dan Murphy's. It'll be interesting to see if 458 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: those promotions continue happening. Well, she did add on at 459 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: the end of her story that she is still an 460 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: advocate for non alcoholic drinks. I mean, she might be 461 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: keen to keep that Brandy. There is a complete difference 462 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: between going out on the weekend getting yourself absolutely written 463 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: off and enjoying a glass of wine over. But what 464 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: I want to know is why, to begin with, didn't 465 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: she just say I'm going to reduce my alcohol intake 466 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: because people change their mind. Perhaps she was going through 467 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: something at the time, and sobriety. I mean, we know 468 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: that she was going through a lot. Maybe sobriety was 469 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: something that she could control with something to walk. But 470 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: do you feel like she's blaming justin like that kind 471 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: of sits uncomfortably with it. Might it might actually be 472 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: his fault or might not, But she might now feel 473 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: like she's in a good Relationship's in this new relationship 474 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: she can go out and have a drink and enjoy herself. 475 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Maybe because there are a lot of issues going on 476 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: in her relationship, she drank too much. 477 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: All right, guys, I'm here for not only in Australian first, 478 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: but I think a world first. I got the call 479 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: from Adrian saying he's doing a forty eight hour house. 480 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Giveaway with Ozzie struggling through a rental and cost of 481 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: living crisis. Our feeds have been inundated with housing lotteries. 482 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: Self made millionaires like Adrian Putelli from La Plus is 483 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: selling us the dream raffling off multimillion dollar homes. Influencer 484 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: Mitch Orville and entrepreneur Troy Candy have fronted this week's giveaway. 485 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: But what's in it for the business? Is his giveaway 486 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: as generous as it looks? Sophy weeks ago, we reported 487 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: that Mitch is studying to become a real estate agent, 488 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: and he was in good form giving his followers a 489 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: tour of this house. Yeah, Mitch clearly has the gift 490 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: of the gap, and I think it is something that 491 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: comes naturally to him. Maybe he's finally found his calling now. 492 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: I feel like we could see him on a show 493 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: like lux Listings very soon, because he definitely has a 494 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: sort of personality and I think could inject a lot 495 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: of humor into the show, a Gold Coast version of 496 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: Luxe Listen. Yeah, absolutely great him and his dad. Now. 497 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: Mitch appeared alongside controversial entrepreneur Troy Candy in the giveaway video, 498 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: which he posted to his Instagram feed. Let's throw to 499 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: some of the best bits from the house tour. 500 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: Let's get this start with these walking lunges up the hill. 501 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: Might have to give away some bcas just to get 502 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: them up the driveway. The first thing that I've noticed 503 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: is plenty of room for a boat, a caravan, your car, 504 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: all the toys which is family home. You need toys. 505 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: That's a beautiful bed, work bench. 506 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: I've seen this video popping up everywhere. They must have 507 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: put a huge advertising spend behind it. I have to say, 508 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I have been talking mitchup, but I did cringe a 509 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: lot when he said that the bed was the work bench. 510 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: But apart from that comment in the video, I think 511 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: he did do a pretty good job to try and 512 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: sell the house. Now. The pair were really spooking the 513 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: fact that it's a forty eight hour giveaway and that 514 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: everyone must get in now, and I feel like it's 515 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: really encouraging people to make a very quick decision and 516 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: not think too much about it. So what do you 517 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: actually have to do to enter this competition? It is 518 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: a little bit different to your traditional giveaway competitions because 519 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: you have to sign up to a subscription service. So 520 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: the plans do vary. So there's one that gives you 521 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: weekly access, there's another that gives you monthly, or you 522 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: can choose some six months or a year. So is 523 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: this different a bunch of different giveaways, not just the 524 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: one housing one. If you sign up, you have instant 525 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: access to a whole bunch of different giveaways. 526 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 527 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, the company first started in twenty eighteen, and since 528 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: then there's been four hundred winners of these types of competitions. 529 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: So when they started, they first gave away a lot 530 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: of cars, and now they've moved into houses. So I 531 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of rolling competitions that happen. 532 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: And I think you also accumulate points and you can 533 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: get different, you know, discounts on certain products and brands 534 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: that they align with, so they sort of sell it 535 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: to people in that way. So the starting price for 536 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: a weekly package is twenty dollars, but the yearly package 537 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: goes up to five hundred dollars. So you can see 538 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: very quickly how they make their money because on their 539 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: website they say that they have half a million subscribers. 540 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: So if you do the maths, just say, for instance, 541 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: in the best case scenario for them, that everyone signed 542 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: up to a yearly package, that's two hundred and fifty 543 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: million dollars they're making off this. Oh my god, wow, 544 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: no wonder they can give away such good prizes. I 545 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: suppose the thing is for those people that love gambling, 546 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: when you look at the odds, one in half a 547 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: million is probably a lot better than your traditional lotto. Yeah, 548 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's how some people look at it. Do 549 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: we know if Mitch is a part of this LMCT 550 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: plus business or he being paid to be in the 551 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: video well, I think this is a clear marketing strategy 552 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: from the business. But Mitch is very good friends with 553 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: the creator of the business, which is a guy by 554 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: the name of Adrian Portelli and he is a thirty 555 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: four year old property investor. Now his name might sound 556 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: familiar as he was rumored to be dating TikToker and 557 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Only Fans creator mikaela Tester after she broke up with 558 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: Adas Paul, so they appeared to spend time together last 559 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: year when she was holidaying in Turkey. He may also 560 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: ring a bell for people who watched the Channel nine 561 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: show The Block because he appeared on the show last 562 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: year and he earned himself the title of mister Lambo 563 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: because obviously he appeared in a Lamborghini and he placed 564 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: an opening bid of four point five million dollars for 565 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: one of the houses, and he was accused by critics 566 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: of being a plant. He actually ended up buying one 567 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: of the other contestants' homes, which was great promotion as 568 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: he ended up raffling it through his company. It's incredible 569 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: how wealthy this guy actually is. Just this week he 570 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: bought a record breaking thirty nine million dollar penthouse. How 571 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: do you guys feel about these multi millionaires with huge 572 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: amount of properties sort of throwing us a bone and 573 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: giving us these housing giveaways. Are they really throwing us 574 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: a bone or are they just making even more money? 575 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Does the money all go back into the company or 576 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: is there a charity link to it? Because a lot 577 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: of the housing LOTO is done in South Australia, Often 578 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: people will be like, I'm happy to get a ticket 579 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: for one hundred bucks because it goes to charity. No, 580 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: it's not going to charity, the charity of Adrian. Yeah. Immediately, 581 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: so I feel like, well, why don't people just hold 582 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: off and put it into one of the housing because 583 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: clearly there's better there's a better chance of winning one 584 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: of these. I mean, it is marketed very much to 585 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: a blokey audience. You just have to see it by 586 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: all of the supercars and that sort of stuff that 587 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: is promoted, and also the influences they're using to promote 588 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: the giveaways. The ad that Mitch's in is selling a dream, 589 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: isn't it. It's clever because choosing Mitch he does relate, 590 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: as you said, to that male audience, and it gives 591 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: the competition a bit more trust because people have seen 592 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: Mitch's huge following. Trust Mitch though, Yeah, but I think 593 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: they still do. I think that males look at him 594 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: as an aspirational figure because he has run all these businesses. 595 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: He has a pretty glamorous lifestyle. The thing that makes 596 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: me feel sad is that there's so many people struggling 597 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: to pay rent at the moment. There's so many people 598 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: who want to get into housing, and as you said, Amy, 599 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: this is sold as a dream, so then people think, Okay, 600 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to sign up to a year's subscription, which 601 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: is five hundred dollars in the hope of going away 602 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: with one of these prizes. The thing is, this is 603 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: just like any sort of gambling. There's a big prize 604 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: at the end, and only one person's going to win it. 605 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Should we be holding this competition to a higher regard 606 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: than any other gambling activity. I don't necessarily think we should. 607 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about this promotion is the subscriber 608 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: part of it, because I've never seen a competition like 609 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: that before. As you said, Kate, there are a lot 610 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: of charity lotteries and you buy a one off ticket. 611 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: Are we going to see this more? Because this is 612 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: a business model that is making people a lot of money. 613 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it's also causing conversations because you don't 614 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: normally see an influencer put their face to essentially gambling. Well, 615 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for today. 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