1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda jam Nation question everything is back. This 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: is the show where comedians and experts dissect the news 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: and expose shonky reporting. Who better to host this show 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: than a man who's been questioning everything, including himself, for years. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Will Anderson, Hello. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Here he is, Hello, Amanda and Jonesy. It's very nice 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: to be on the show as always. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 3: Thank you. 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: In the world, this modern world of misinformation. What shocks 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: me in America and I wonder if it's going to 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: be happening here too, is that people don't care whether 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: something's true or not. I never thought we'd be in 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: this place. Does truth mean anything to us anymore? 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: I think we'd just like to hear what we already 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: believe reinforced to us. Like I don't think we do 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: live in this world where like there used to be 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: this thing with newspapers where the headline had to have 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: some association with the article that would follow that headline, but. 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 3: You would know it from your job. 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: Now, if you only read the headlines of all the newspages, 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: you'd have a completely different idea about what's going on 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: in the world. 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: World. 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: If you read the whole article, I mean, that's really 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: People watch our show and they're like amazed that the 27 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: things we're bringing them about the news. They're like, where 28 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: did you find that? And we're like, oh, we read 29 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: to paragraph eight. That's all we did. We just kept 30 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: reading until we finally worked out what was happening next. 31 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: So what are your targets? I mean, last time we 32 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: spoke to you about Elon Musk and Twitter, we spoke 33 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Dan Andrews and how what's been going on there? What's 34 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: happening this time? 35 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: I mean the truth of it is that everything has 36 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: become The way that I speak about it is that 37 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: it used to be that there was big bits of 38 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: misinformation and disinformation, but they were big bits and then 39 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: you could kind of trust the rest of the news. 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: But we've gone into this area of I think casual 41 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: misinformation or disinformation, where it's expected that everything will be 42 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: blown out of proportion. I mean, you would know it 43 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: from personal experience. You make some small comment on the 44 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: radio and it could be reported in the news as 45 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: being quite a big scandal. Now with a splashy headline 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: and the quote taken out of context and beaten up everywhere. 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: And that happens in you can't. 48 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: There was an article literally a couple of days ago 49 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: where it was just about Ange Posta Conglu being voted 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: the number one manager in the league for two months. 51 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: In a row. 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: Right, that's the story, which by itself, that's a pretty 53 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: good story. Is like a first time coach he's been 54 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,279 Speaker 2: voted best manager is an Australian success story. The headline 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: was and does what no man has ever done before? 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: It's the toilet. 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: Surely it's like washed up being asked he was wrong 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: twice in a row. 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what the story is about her, but 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: it's true. 61 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: When we say stuff on the radio, it's totally different 62 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: to when Digital Jenna, our digital lady here, when she 63 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: puts something on our social media, it takes a different 64 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: life of the town. For example, we were just talking 65 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: about men catching the bus and I said, at an 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 4: off and comment, I said, men don't catch the bus 67 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: and I'm referring to like Matt Damon or the John 68 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: Wick character that Keanu Ruves plays. I said, manday catch 69 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: the bus. So she just isolated that the avalanche of 70 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: hate about you know, I'm anti public transport. 71 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: That you're a member of the elite. That's what you are. 72 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: As Rupert Murdoch pointed out, he's against the elite. The 73 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: billionaire who owns seventy percent of the media is against 74 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: the elite. 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: Jones. 76 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: He's talking about people like you who think that people 77 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: like Connie Reeves don't go on a bus, despite the 78 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: fact that one of his most famous movies is literally 79 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: about him. 80 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: On a bus for the entire movement. 81 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Rupert and I were discussing the end of the day 82 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: because he didn't tap on when he got on, he 83 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: didn't need just he just siddled in next to me. Well, well, 84 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: it's always good to talk to you. Question Everything airs 85 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: Wednesday night on the ABC. It's a treat to talk to. 86 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: You, always a pleasure to talk to you both. Thank 87 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: you for having me