1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The Will and Woody podcast. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: That's bite sized. 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 3: I asked before if you've ever had or been a 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 3: part of a conjugal visit. I've got intel that we've 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 3: had to censure ninety seven percent of those phone calls. 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Is what makes this so spicy that it does. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 3: But look, we will get to some of them hopefully 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: if you can keep it above board. 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 4: I'd love to hear from you, because. 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we don't want to go into the crass, 11 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 5: muddy details of the actual sex world. 12 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: We just want to know the specs of what sort 13 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: of room is a contrast done into? 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 6: You? 15 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: Do you plan it? How much time do you. 16 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: Do you use the handcuffs? No, sorry, that's probably getting 17 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 4: into it. Let's just we had a. 18 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: Call from a woman called Vicky yesterday who we were 19 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: talking about whether you're embarrassed or do your parents embarrass 20 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: you with how you were conceived? 21 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 6: This was pretty haunting and possibly even traumatizing. I found 22 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 6: out when I was sixteen that I was conceived during 23 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 6: a conjugal visit. Oh my mother was yes, yeah. 24 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 5: That's so, and then wow, so Vicky, Vicky was his 25 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: dad was in jail. Yes, totally wild. Vicky joins us 26 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 5: on the phone once again. 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Hello Vick, Hello, how are you well? 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Great? 29 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for joining us again and talking 30 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 5: about something which I know would be a little bit difficult. 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 5: But did your did did your parents ever give you, 32 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: like any specific details about the conjugal visits? And not get. 33 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: Talking about the details the. 34 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: Crass detail is just like you know that the room 35 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: itself for example. 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 6: Okay, So I spoke to my mom after this, after 37 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 6: the call that we had, Yes, I actually got a 38 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 6: little bit more information, and I think perhaps maybe at sixteen, 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 6: I came up with a story in my mind that 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 6: was a conjugal visit. But what I have said since 41 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 6: then out I definitely was conceived while my dad was 42 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 6: in jail, but it wasn't an official conjugal visit. 43 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: What were. 44 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 6: Doesn't it? 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: What? What are your mean? 46 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Ham? What's what's the difference between an official conjugal vis 47 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: is it an unofficial conjugal visit? 48 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 6: Well, they weren't allowed to do that, but they did. 49 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: But like in the in the communal visitation. 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 6: Center, all I know is this was a low security, 51 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: very chill kind of place, so apparently they could get 52 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 6: away with it. Now, let's you know, this is quite 53 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 6: a few decades ago. I think we were a little 54 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 6: bit more laxed back then. But yeah, when I questioned 55 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 6: my mom about it, she goes, oh, no, no, it wasn't 56 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 6: we weren't allowed to do it. I'm like, what finding 57 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 6: out more details about my conception? Wow, I think even 58 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 6: more traumatizing than the original. 59 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: Story, because that's so much spicier. 60 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: I'm sorry to say that to your face, Vigki, but 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 5: it's so much spicy, and now that they weren't actually allowed. 62 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: To do it, Like, do you know, Vic, like how 63 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: long your dad had been in there or anything like that. 64 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 6: It was it was a few months. That's all I know. 65 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 6: I never asked the details about Basically, I don't want 66 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 6: to know. 67 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to know. 68 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 7: It was. 69 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 6: It was quite a few months at least, perhaps maybe 70 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 6: about six months or so. 71 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: So, okay, do you know if your mom went in 72 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: there with that intention? 73 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: Sorry, this is that's not a question. 74 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 5: I think to speak to your mom, can we get 75 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 5: is there any sense we can get your mom on 76 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: the phone after the song. 77 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: VICKI sure, go for it. 78 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I think I think, yeah, it's okay with you. I 79 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: think we need to ask VICKI was it her plan? 80 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: Let me mute the phone. 81 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: Vicky, your mom up next as well, and we are 82 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: talking conjugal visits on third and one oh six five. 83 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: Now, I know these are all a lot of these 84 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: are prison related. 85 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: Hence the music doesn't have to be a prison related 86 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: to conjugal visit though, be. 87 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Mean, well, it might be something else a conjugal visit is. 88 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: So you might have been, you know, in a treehouse 89 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: or something that's not a conjugal visit, and then you 90 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: had somebody come and join you in the treehouse. 91 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: I don't know woods. 92 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to make this a bit more PC 93 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: than some of the cause were getting, which we can't 94 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: take a lot of, but we can take Gabrielle. 95 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: Gabrielle, Hello, Hello, Now this is about next partner of yours. 96 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: It is about the next partner of mine. 97 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So you would pay him conjugal visits. 98 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: I would pay him conjugal visits every fourth night. I'd 99 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: pay him conjugable visits. 100 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 7: Wow. 101 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: So, Gabrielle, so this is something that is in a prison, 102 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: not a tree house. 103 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Just to confirm, No, tree house, definitely prison. 104 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 5: So would you make the booking with the jail or 105 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: would he make the booking and then they would contact you. 106 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: How does it work, Gabrielle. 107 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: No, he has to make the booking because there's lots 108 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: of people actually have cousins of course, so they have 109 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: to make the booking. And then he would remain say, Okay, 110 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: I've booked for this day and you have the whole 111 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: you have the whole day. 112 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole day. 113 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: Jeez, the whole day. 114 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: So what do you do after thirty seconds? 115 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know, don't we just repaint it? 116 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: So Gabrielle, I'm fascinated by it. 117 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: Is there is there? 118 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: Is it a shared room? Like it is a shared 119 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: space for everyone? 120 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: No, it's like an own motel suite. Right, So you've 121 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: got a non suite in there, and you've got a 122 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: little dining area in a bedroom and a television case. 123 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: You know, get bored? 124 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: Did you? 125 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Did you ever? Did you ever turn the TV on? Gabrielle? 126 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: No? Never, No, okay? 127 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: And so you go there and was it exciting for you, Gabrielle? 128 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: Like you know, was it? 129 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: You know when you get a call from your ex 130 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: partner like, right, I'll block out Thursday. 131 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: Oh I guess so because you know what you just 132 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: go there, have a great time, drive away, and you 133 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about eating. 134 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 135 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: Wow, so you weren't real. 136 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: So were you still in a relationship then or were 137 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: you just like, hey, look you're in there. I'm out here, 138 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: but I'm happy to fulfill that role for you. 139 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: Well. No, I actually was not a relationship with him 140 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: at that time. We had broken up, but as I 141 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: was conjugal visiting him, we became a couple again. I 142 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: don't really know when. 143 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: That happens, but in the motel suite, wow, in. 144 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: The motel sweet. 145 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: Great stuff, Gabrielle. Thanks for the call so much, Gabrielle. 146 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 4: Now great stuff. 147 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: Really lovely to hear from another party so that we 148 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: can take the blow torch off. Poor Vicky who called 149 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: the show yesterday and offered that she was conceived during 150 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: a conjugal visit. 151 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 6: This was pretty haunting and possibly even traumatizing. I found 152 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 6: out when I was sixteen that I was conceived during 153 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 6: a conjugal visit. 154 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, yes that's so. 155 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: And then wow, Vicky, was his dad was in jail? 156 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: Yes, it was awesome. We've just found out before the song. 157 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: If you're just joining us and credit if I'm wrong, Vicky, 158 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 5: but it wasn't actually an organized conjugal visit. Your mum 159 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 5: actually just went to the prison and they sort of 160 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 5: just got away with. 161 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 6: It where there's a I guess WoT. 162 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, extraordinary. 163 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: The more exciting news for everyone apart from you, is 164 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: the fact that we have your beautiful mother, Angela on 165 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 5: the phone right now. 166 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Hello Angela, Hello, Wow, she sounds happy to be here. 167 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 4: Hi, and thanks for coming on the show. 168 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 8: Pleasure. 169 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: All right, Well, we've just heard from Gabrielle about what 170 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: sounds like a very different setup to I know what happened. 171 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: We wish I had a room like that. 172 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: So what did you have, Angela? 173 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: We did not have a room like that. 174 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 8: Basically, it was a country jail and on the weekends 175 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 8: we could go and take certain cooks. But one weekend 176 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 8: it was an open day where we could actually go 177 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 8: to their rooms and see their rooms where they slept. 178 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Wow, you go into his cell effectively? 179 00:07:59,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: Yep. 180 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 7: Yet. 181 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 8: Well but yes, because it was that in the country, 182 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 8: it's a little bit different to down here. They had 183 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 8: their own bathroom, yeah, which were a little bit more 184 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 8: private and yeah. 185 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: So sorry, get what time? 186 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 8: Well, I suppose you can use the bathroom for anything. 187 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Well said, keep in mind her daughter is listening to 188 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: all of this. 189 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: La la la la la. 190 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 7: So you you you were just listening out for the 191 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 7: guards and you ducked into the on suite of your 192 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 7: husband's cell and that is where Vicky was conceived. 193 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: Pretty much, Yes, totally. 194 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 8: It was forty years ago, you know, difference there. I 195 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 8: was only twenty. 196 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: Wow. 197 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,119 Speaker 4: We and your partner, how was he at the time. 198 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: Thirty six? 199 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 8: It was a little bit older than me. 200 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: Okay, brilliant. 201 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: And did you know like on the day that that's 202 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: what you were, you know, sort of going in there 203 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: like it was an open night and also you know an. 204 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Open No, no, it just things just happened. 205 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 8: Wow, that is let me tell you, I wish I 206 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 8: had what that lady had. 207 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeahtel room with the TV and everything. 208 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: Yes, wow, that's. 209 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 8: Amazing, really nice. 210 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. And did he stay in there after and like, 211 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: was it just a one off thing or did you 212 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: stay in contact afterwards? 213 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: And everything? 214 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 8: Oh? We end up getting married. Oh wonderful, and we 215 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 8: had another four kids in. 216 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: The suite of the cell. 217 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast. 218 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: You know you want to