1
00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,560
Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast. NIMMI, right now,

2
00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:10,440
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Optics hack. Shocking stuff. I mean,

3
00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm one of the nine point eight million Aussies who

4
00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,520
Speaker 1: this bloke's got my dats shocking, shocking stuff. It's the

5
00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,960
Speaker 1: horrible business, scary business. All in all passports, medi cares,

6
00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,840
Speaker 1: all these things, all your numbers he has, he has.

7
00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,400
Speaker 1: That's what someone told me the other day, is the

8
00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,880
Speaker 1: fact that if he's got your passport and your ID,

9
00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,159
Speaker 1: he's got one hundred points of ID, which means he

10
00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:37,880
Speaker 1: can make a fake you.

11
00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,239
Speaker 2: He's applying for scuba diving licenses. I don't know if

12
00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,519
Speaker 2: that'll be the rental properties.

13
00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if that'll be the first thing getting

14
00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:53,040
Speaker 1: his patty a second. That's not me, hacker, But I

15
00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,760
Speaker 1: do want to talk about what look, it's shocking stuff.

16
00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,480
Speaker 1: So I don't want to get bogged down in the details,

17
00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,959
Speaker 1: but I do want to talk about what I think

18
00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,160
Speaker 1: is the funniest part of the whole hacking scam, which

19
00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,760
Speaker 1: is his ransom.

20
00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:05,360
Speaker 3: Right.

21
00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:11,279
Speaker 1: So he's got Optus by the short and Curlies, multi

22
00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,560
Speaker 1: billion dollar company, right, and he decides to ransom them

23
00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:21,360
Speaker 1: for a million one one million Australian dollars.

24
00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,160
Speaker 4: You're going to have to fee me.

25
00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:31,800
Speaker 1: One million dollars, which is unders.

26
00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,679
Speaker 3: It's not a lot of money, it's unders.

27
00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the CEO would sneeze and then be

28
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,720
Speaker 1: able to put that together really easily.

29
00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,800
Speaker 3: What's been the result of that?

30
00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,520
Speaker 2: Have they paid the gun?

31
00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,520
Speaker 1: I think it was just more like to substantiate the

32
00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,840
Speaker 1: fact that he's a joke. Yeah, like it's like the

33
00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,080
Speaker 1: whole thing. Someone's into me the other day that it

34
00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,040
Speaker 1: feels like he's a child. The thing is because he

35
00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 1: can't He's English isn't great either, so there's just a

36
00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,360
Speaker 1: number of questions.

37
00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200
Speaker 2: He's are good hackers and a kid would say a

38
00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,880
Speaker 2: million dollars.

39
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,920
Speaker 1: Dollars, Yeah, that's all they need. All they want to

40
00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,760
Speaker 1: buy is you know, a skateboard and yeah enough big

41
00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,880
Speaker 1: bosses down at the milk. But it's probably more of

42
00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,440
Speaker 1: a five year old. But drop it all on sherbet bombs.

43
00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,400
Speaker 1: But no, it's a million dollars, which is ridiculous. However,

44
00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,639
Speaker 1: I think every man has his price, So to a

45
00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,960
Speaker 1: multi billion dollar company, a million dollars is nothing, but

46
00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,360
Speaker 1: to a tight ass, the smallest amounts of money feel

47
00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,520
Speaker 1: like a lot. Yes, enter my father the tight us.

48
00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,240
Speaker 2: So we were talking about this optics hack earlier today

49
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,280
Speaker 2: and I mentioned that. So my dad realized yesterday that

50
00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,560
Speaker 2: he's been paying for my health insurance for the last

51
00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,720
Speaker 2: seven years. Yeah, well the last fifteen years when he

52
00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,280
Speaker 2: really shouldn't have been paying for it. So I've got

53
00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,440
Speaker 2: an idea on this idea of you know, how little

54
00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,720
Speaker 2: money can make my dad really crack the proverbial shits is,

55
00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,160
Speaker 2: let's call him as the health insurance company. Yeah, identify

56
00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,840
Speaker 2: that he's been paying for the health insurance. Yes, then say, okay,

57
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,079
Speaker 2: your son's willing to take over. But for that to happen, Yeah,

58
00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,119
Speaker 2: there's a ten dollar fee.

59
00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,120
Speaker 3: Ten dolls.

60
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,400
Speaker 1: You want to go as low as ten bucks. I

61
00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,799
Speaker 1: thought we were talking fifty No, no, no, no, or.

62
00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,800
Speaker 2: Fifty he would legal action ten dollars.

63
00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,160
Speaker 4: I think we'll hear him crack it.

64
00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,679
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, the hacker held opter just to one

65
00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,760
Speaker 1: million dollars. We're going to hold your dad to ten dollars. Yeah,

66
00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,960
Speaker 1: and see if he cracks.

67
00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,440
Speaker 3: On the other side.

68
00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,760
Speaker 5: Definitely will He definitely.

69
00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,720
Speaker 1: Was so excited. I can't because he doesn't think we're

70
00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,000
Speaker 1: listening as well, it's the best bit. Woods and I

71
00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,480
Speaker 1: having a laugh about how low the demand that the

72
00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,200
Speaker 1: Optus ransom was. I've actually got an audio of it.

73
00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,560
Speaker 1: If you didn't haven't heard the audio yourself.

74
00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,320
Speaker 4: You're going to have to fee me.

75
00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,800
Speaker 3: One million dollars.

76
00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,360
Speaker 1: Millions ridiculous. But for a tight ass, a small amount

77
00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,280
Speaker 1: of money can feel like a lot.

78
00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,880
Speaker 2: Woods absolutely enter my father the tight ass. Now we

79
00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,000
Speaker 2: have an incredible situation ahead of us where we can

80
00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,360
Speaker 2: stitch up the tight ass that is my dad, and

81
00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,800
Speaker 2: that is that really quickly. Basically, Dad's been paying for

82
00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,120
Speaker 2: my health insurance accidentally. He didn't realize he was doing

83
00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,840
Speaker 2: it for the last fifteen years. I didn't know either,

84
00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,159
Speaker 2: No one knew this was happening.

85
00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,039
Speaker 3: But he's been paying for a.

86
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,160
Speaker 1: Health convenient view that you didn't know about.

87
00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,479
Speaker 2: It brilliant for me, William anyway. So he now knows.

88
00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,200
Speaker 2: He found out yesterday. So the idea is we've got

89
00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000
Speaker 2: George out button pusher in the studio here. George, I

90
00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,839
Speaker 2: want you to call my dad from this health insurance

91
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,159
Speaker 2: company and basically say, we know that you've been paying

92
00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,440
Speaker 2: for your son's health insurance, so we're happy to transfer

93
00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,560
Speaker 2: the payment over to him where he's the one who

94
00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,400
Speaker 2: pays it. But there is going to be a ten

95
00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,000
Speaker 2: dollar fee to transfer it over to your son.

96
00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,680
Speaker 1: Which seems nominal because if he's paid for your health

97
00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,800
Speaker 1: insurance for ten years, he's paid ten thousand dollars in

98
00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,800
Speaker 1: health insurance. Round ball, Yeah like Paul park figure, yeah yeah, yeah.

99
00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,039
Speaker 1: So to ask for ten dollars more to transfer the

100
00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,960
Speaker 1: account over to you, you would think, particularly given that

101
00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,040
Speaker 1: it's freeing him, he would give up.

102
00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,320
Speaker 2: You don't know my father, like I know my father,

103
00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,039
Speaker 2: and he'll ten dollars. It's the principal. He'll be so angry.

104
00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,240
Speaker 2: He'll be like, why is their feet?

105
00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,920
Speaker 1: I guarantee I think we should choose for one hundred dollars.

106
00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,560
Speaker 3: I think ten dollars because that's that's funny. Everyone will

107
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,520
Speaker 3: get angry one hundred dollars.

108
00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,320
Speaker 2: Trust me, my dad is the biggest tight hoss.

109
00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:24,560
Speaker 1: You know.

110
00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,400
Speaker 4: You say ten bucks, he will crack.

111
00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:39,320
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it, White Law.

112
00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Hi Steve, my name is Aaron from insurance.

113
00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,120
Speaker 5: How are you going?

114
00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,880
Speaker 6: Oh good? And here are you good?

115
00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,200
Speaker 3: Thank you?

116
00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,560
Speaker 5: I'm just going through our current forms and I see

117
00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,200
Speaker 5: that your your son. You're paying for your son, Edward

118
00:05:54,200 --> 00:06:01,240
Speaker 5: Whitelaw's insurance at the moment. Yes, I am yes, so yeah, great,

119
00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,560
Speaker 5: So we've just Edward's just notified us that he'd like

120
00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,680
Speaker 5: to be paying for that account.

121
00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,560
Speaker 3: Now, is that?

122
00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,200
Speaker 5: Are you happy for us to go ahead with that?

123
00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,719
Speaker 5: We're just happy, right, amazing, We thought we thought so,

124
00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,359
Speaker 5: we just wanted to. We just want to get confirmation

125
00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,240
Speaker 5: from from the current payer. So Steve, I've got all

126
00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,680
Speaker 5: the details here. We just there is just a small

127
00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,440
Speaker 5: transfer fee that we need to get from you. So

128
00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,800
Speaker 5: that'll be ten dollars, which is very easy. We've got

129
00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,440
Speaker 5: your details here and we'll go ahead with that if

130
00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,680
Speaker 5: you give us the green tig of approval.

131
00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,039
Speaker 6: Why do you need ten dollars?

132
00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,240
Speaker 5: It's just a standard it's just the standard transfer fee

133
00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,360
Speaker 5: that we that we do here.

134
00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:51,520
Speaker 6: Oh really, how what do I need to transfer ten

135
00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 6: dollars to you too?

136
00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we can we can get the go ahead

137
00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,560
Speaker 5: for the transfer. Obviously, like with all the everything going

138
00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,839
Speaker 5: on in in the in the world with scams and whatnot,

139
00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,320
Speaker 5: we have to have like a sort of an insurance fee.

140
00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's it's just ten dollars. It's not

141
00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,240
Speaker 5: not all that much.

142
00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:22,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, now it's just the unusual principle really,

143
00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,440
Speaker 6: but anyway, yeah.

144
00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,080
Speaker 1: I understand it is.

145
00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,200
Speaker 3: It is relatively cheap.

146
00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,800
Speaker 5: There are a lot of other health insurance providers and

147
00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,800
Speaker 5: companies that do it for a lot more. We do

148
00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,080
Speaker 5: have the cheapest in the business. So yeah, I open.

149
00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,600
Speaker 5: That's all all okay.

150
00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,760
Speaker 6: Very good, very good? And how do I get this

151
00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,720
Speaker 6: ten dollars trumpled stale?

152
00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,120
Speaker 4: So it was only ten dollars, dad, No need to

153
00:07:48,160 --> 00:08:00,680
Speaker 4: get so angry. Jeez, you're easy to annoy.

154
00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,080
Speaker 6: This all lousy little you know, administrative person wanting to

155
00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,320
Speaker 6: collect this ten dollars go along with it? Or do

156
00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,400
Speaker 6: I just kid in hell that.

157
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,600
Speaker 4: The emotional roller coaster have been pumped that you weren't

158
00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,239
Speaker 4: paying for my health insurance anymore?

159
00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,400
Speaker 6: Talking about the windowt of Mysia, you didn't break.

160
00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,720
Speaker 1: The feb I love. The in was like, all right,

161
00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,520
Speaker 1: so how am I going to get this crumpled stale

162
00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,520
Speaker 1: ten dollar night and into your hands?

163
00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,520
Speaker 7: It was like, you have to take it out of

164
00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,960
Speaker 7: my cold dead fingers mate, working your healthy insurance, because

165
00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,439
Speaker 7: you'll need to have me on an operating table an

166
00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,920
Speaker 7: out cold before you flace these puppards.

167
00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,200
Speaker 6: It wasn't a little bit dramatic, wasn't righteous. I just

168
00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,920
Speaker 6: wanted to hear the message A curse to that happy Yeah.

169
00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got that message. We got that message.

170
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,079
Speaker 4: And just so you know that I haven't actually contacted,

171
00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,280
Speaker 4: so you are still pain for my health insurance as

172
00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,959
Speaker 4: it stands.

173
00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,000
Speaker 5: Why are you.

174
00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,520
Speaker 3: Done with that?

175
00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,760
Speaker 4: Why not check out more from Willen Woody on The

176
00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,319
Speaker 4: Full Show podcast.