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Speaker 1: Power by the radio app from ninety six air VM

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Speaker 1: to where You're listening today This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the podcast WHI took calls on your

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Speaker 2: favorite snack, put your pair with a movie, and.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of movies, ben O'Shea reviewed The Apprentice and.

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Speaker 4: Talking movies again.

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Speaker 2: Angela Duncan spoke costumes on how to Make It in

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Speaker 2: wa and.

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Speaker 3: Funnily enough, still on movies, Variety has come out with

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Speaker 3: its list of the top one hundred horror flicks of

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Speaker 3: all time.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much a pair of Spielberg's We thought We talked

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Speaker 2: about movies today, not just about the movies themselves, but

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Speaker 2: about what you eat at the movies. This has been

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Speaker 2: a hot topic on Reddit of what food you pair

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Speaker 2: with a movie?

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Speaker 3: Well, I have a very nice TV for the purpose

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Speaker 3: of being able to watch movies at home with wine

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Speaker 3: and cheese.

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Speaker 4: Wine and cheese is your go to? Yea? Yeah? Do

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Speaker 4: you like popcorn? Person?

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Speaker 2: You know, one thing I don't really love is the

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Speaker 2: gold class food in the dark when it's a bit

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Speaker 2: sometimes a bit and you know, when you can't see

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Speaker 2: what you're reading.

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Speaker 3: You really don't like eating at the cinema. Yeah, not

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Speaker 3: where I'm Yeah, that's why I like to.

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Speaker 4: Do it at home.

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Speaker 2: You've got comfort, You've got all the creature comforts and all,

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Speaker 2: and go to the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone.

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Speaker 2: You haven't to worry that I'm going to miss a

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Speaker 2: good bit. You know that bowl of stuff crap, you

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Speaker 2: stop it over the toilet. You can do whatever. You

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Speaker 2: can make noise with a noisy packet if you want to.

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Speaker 4: No one goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but sometimes in the gold class the lights go down.

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Speaker 2: I really want to see what I'm eating, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: But of course you would be eating because you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be able to go two and a half hours without.

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Speaker 2: I'm eating now thinking about talking about it, you are,

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Speaker 2: I reckon that the movies. For me, it's more teasers

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Speaker 2: and I don't quite know why, but it's easy to

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Speaker 2: finish the packet before the movie actually starts. Watch the

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Speaker 2: trailer cinema ads.

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Speaker 4: Do you like a box? Like a box it's not

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Speaker 4: as noisy as well, exactly made for cinema eating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or you're waiting if you've still got some left

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Speaker 2: at the start of the movie, then you're waiting for

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Speaker 2: a loud bit because if it's quite in a little

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Speaker 2: bit whispered dialogue, you know.

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Speaker 3: More teasers were always I mean they're classic. It's a

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Speaker 3: classic choice. But unfortunately, ever since peanut m and m's

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Speaker 3: were invented, I've had to break up with maltesers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah really, yeah, it was peanut m and ms win

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Speaker 4: out every say to the maltess it's me, not you.

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Speaker 4: It's yeah. Yeah, it's tough, isn't it. It's you. You

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Speaker 4: don't have a peanut in.

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Speaker 2: Your Yeah, don't worry, will be working on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised combining everything the malt facked up. Don't spoil

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Speaker 3: it and it's in Westminster. What is the movie snack

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Speaker 3: you like to pair with your movie?

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Speaker 5: I like popcorn with of ice in Sugar's got a

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Speaker 5: bit of a sweet too, yes, and so the lolliglobbled

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Speaker 5: blist bonds are all caramel.

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Speaker 4: And that's taking things to the top of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can you last very long into the movie with those?

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Speaker 2: And when you get your popcorn going with the with

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Speaker 2: the dust on top, can I laugh?

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Speaker 5: Well, you just make sure it doesn't get on you

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Speaker 5: if you're just a sly it just really slightly dusted

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Speaker 5: before and then you can eat it and yummy.

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Speaker 4: I can't think.

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Speaker 3: What the brand is, but it's in a green packet.

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Speaker 4: You'll know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: In it that they do that slightly salty and sweet,

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Speaker 3: slightly sweet, something salty.

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Speaker 4: It's just the perfect combination of the two.

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Speaker 5: A little bit of salt next time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, a little bit of sualt and sweet. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because your sense is go to w Dutch clear, good

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Speaker 2: morning and welcome.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Claire. You're pairing for a movie. What's your

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Speaker 4: food for me?

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Speaker 5: And definite class is your packet of popcorn?

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Speaker 6: And then in the popcorn all around?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, right, and then it's like a lucky dip

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Speaker 3: which you're getting mixed into one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Thanks Claire, thank you. On the xt line, Craig

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Speaker 3: says from Singleton says, I like to sneak in a

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Speaker 3: banana and a couple of plumps.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, really, I'm not sure how much to react

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Speaker 4: to that.

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Speaker 3: David in ridgewoods says, cookies and cream, chalk bomb and

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Speaker 3: a bag of barbecue flavor chips.

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Speaker 4: That's noisy, though, that is very noisy. But you might

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Speaker 4: be at home, yeah, quite possibly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're going to movies, I mean, some

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Speaker 2: people do pick the quietest dialogue time to open up

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Speaker 2: the packet.

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Speaker 4: Don't they They do?

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Speaker 2: Russell Russell Russell. Sorry, it's just eating a choc bomb.

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Speaker 2: Were read the movies. It's like old school, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know there was a Cookies and Cream chok boond.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to be getting back to the movies

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Speaker 3: more often, obviously. Yeah, well you're in your cheese and

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Speaker 3: David and Ridgewoods said cookies and Cream choked.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, I didn't know they worked on the varieties.

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Speaker 3: Darren and Port Kennedy said, Grace's Crazy Donuts in forest Field. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the best doughnuts in Australia. Makes Krispy Cremes taste like cardboard.

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Speaker 4: I don't get the.

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Speaker 3: Krispy Kremes fuss anyway, rather just a cinnamon ring hot doughnut.

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Speaker 2: Okay from the Royal Show. Well, they're getting big time

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Speaker 2: thumbs up around here. Let's go to buy for Gid

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Speaker 2: Jess Morning guy.

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Speaker 4: What is it? What do you get into?

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Speaker 7: Well, there's nothing worse than running out of, you know,

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Speaker 7: your ultimate snack half way through the movie. So I

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Speaker 7: found a family size bag of playing eminem get me through.

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Speaker 7: It's not I'll probably feel sick and have even.

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Speaker 4: Some to take home.

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Speaker 2: So even if it's a scorse three hour job, you're

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Speaker 2: you're okay, lasting family.

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Speaker 4: Family. It depends on the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah, oh that you'd be there for

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Speaker 3: a while. Do you ever go to the variety pack?

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Speaker 7: No, I did you? Maltese's used to be my goal

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Speaker 7: go through. Yeah, it just dissolved se quickly in the mouth.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Quite like the variety pack of Eminem's because sometimes I

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Speaker 3: although the peanut eminem for me is king, I sometimes

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Speaker 3: or the original.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so always wondering. Thanks, it's both angry John

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Speaker 4: in Como, Hello John, guys, how are you? What are

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Speaker 4: you eating at the movies?

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Speaker 6: Okay, so unlikely. So I'd like to sit at home

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Speaker 6: in front of the big TV with my streaming services. Yes, sure,

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Speaker 6: that way I can have really what I want. So

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Speaker 6: it's usually some really nice Italian cold cats, like your

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Speaker 6: studio and your coupar and your suppresso Solami. Yes, it's

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Speaker 6: really nice season and like some.

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Speaker 8: Saff oh, Yeskerina, And then of course that's got to

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Speaker 8: all be washed down with some really nice Neialian Why.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you like me, John, are the same?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to finish of some really nice, intense dark sookers.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, we are.

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Speaker 6: Specifically anything with some postage and goes there.

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Speaker 4: Really well yeah right, yes, that is movie of Championship.

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Speaker 4: That is dinner. Well, it's almost it's so good, John.

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Speaker 4: The movie that really doesn't matter now had all the

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Speaker 4: food groups and that sounds like a date on the Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: Thanks John, that's my afternoon planned.

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Speaker 2: I think you can't concentrate now. I can see your

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Speaker 2: eyes over Oh now you're salivating.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about your snack.

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Speaker 3: You like to have the movies Matt and Edgewater says,

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Speaker 3: I'm in my thirties right still by a party pack

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Speaker 3: of lollies and empty them into a slushy. Really, they

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Speaker 3: rock hard and last the whole movie into a slushy

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Speaker 3: or into a slushy cup.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what, because wouldn't they go soggy and slushy?

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Speaker 4: I would have thought. So it's obviously got the science.

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Speaker 3: Working, yes, and there is a science to it, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: David in eastweek Park says, ice cream and rock salt.

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Speaker 4: Okay is a combat of salty, caramel y ice cream, whiler,

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Speaker 4: A lot more things, a lot more products. Now I

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Speaker 4: have the salt and sugar hit that.

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Speaker 3: Name and Ben in Cloisters is coming to watch a

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Speaker 3: movie with me and John and como because he's in

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Speaker 3: his theater room at home and a comfortable recliner with

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Speaker 3: a bar fridge meters away, either a nice chraz with

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Speaker 4: It's got everything you need. What throuple that would be? Yes,

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Speaker 4: let's go to one Daniel Good all the way? Oh yeah, peanut,

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Speaker 4: even though I'm allergic to painnuts, Okay, I'm going to say,

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Speaker 4: we're worried about it. It's a papent. You've got to

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Speaker 4: take an EpiPen with your.

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Speaker 4: Also people using what they're doing.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, great to flick with Ben Oshe Good morning,

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Speaker 10: Good morning, guys.

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Speaker 3: Certain presidential hopeful tried very hard to make sure this

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Speaker 4: It's probably the worst movie. It's probably the worst movie,

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Speaker 4: but yes for her radio. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So, former President Donald Trump tried to block this movie

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Speaker 11: The Apprentice, which is about the early period of his

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Speaker 11: life in the late nineteen seventies, early nineteen eighties in

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Speaker 11: New York. Before he was the Donald, he was young

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Speaker 11: Donald learning the ropes of business, very much in the

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Speaker 11: shadow of his old man who didn't let him do anything.

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Speaker 11: And so this movie is about how Donald Trump became

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Speaker 11: played the Winter Soldier, he played Tommy, Tommy, he was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, doesn't he doesn't look anything like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 11: No, and in some of the some of the trailers,

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Speaker 11: he's not really doing the kind of classic mannerisms. But

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Speaker 11: the one of the really best things about this movie

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Speaker 11: is as it unfolds, as he kind of becomes more

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Speaker 11: like the Trump we know today, Sebastian Stands performance actually

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Speaker 11: becomes more Trumpian. Well that's if that's a verb, it works,

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Speaker 11: and so that's that's kind of cool to see. But

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Speaker 11: kind of tries to unpack how Trump became the way

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Speaker 11: he is, it's like, so these days, of course, Trump says,

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Speaker 11: you know, I'm the greatest businessman in the world. Probably

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Speaker 11: never been a better business person than me. I know business.

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Speaker 11: I've done so many deals. So he's always he's always

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Speaker 11: talking it up, right, always talking up how much he knows.

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Speaker 11: But no one's born with that knowledge. You learn it.

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Speaker 11: And so this movie tries to answer who did he

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Speaker 3: Start continuing our series about our burgeoning state of our

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Speaker 3: with us. Hello Angela, Hello, so wardrobe costumes. I mean

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Speaker 4: Costume costume department.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So when you would be I guess required very

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Speaker 9: Well, there's different members of the costume department.

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Speaker 9: A lot of work has done before I arrive.

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Speaker 12: there's there's always a compromise. And you know, it's great

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Speaker 12: when you get handed of an actor that would just

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Speaker 12: do exactly everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam Neil, imagine Samuel pushing back.

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Speaker 12: I don't think you can play I mean, yeah, it's

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Speaker 12: you know, everybody's different, and at the end of the day,

447
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Speaker 12: they are playing a character. Some people, you know, get

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Speaker 12: confused between themselves and the character. Yeah, you know of

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Speaker 12: sometimes do you have to remind them that maybe you know,

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Speaker 12: they wouldn't wear that or that kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to be a bit of a personality

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Speaker 4: wrangler as well as in the character.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, someone might whip out the sunglasses at the last

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Speaker 12: minute and sort of say, oh, you know, I think

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Speaker 12: he could wear these, and they sort of sunglasses that

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Speaker 12: don't go at.

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Speaker 9: All, you know, with their characters and.

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Speaker 4: Don't work in a period that's exactly. That's exactly exactly

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Speaker 4: speaking period pieces and stuff.

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Speaker 3: The costumes can absolute well, they do absolutely set the

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Speaker 3: scene of what we're watching. Do you have a particular

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Speaker 3: rare that you like to deal with that is a

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Speaker 3: sort of a personal thing that you love to do.

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't say yes, because I guess that's kind of

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Speaker 12: refer a bit more to fashion or I guess perhaps history.

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Speaker 12: I quite like costume costume, like the you know, really

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Speaker 12: Dodge of the Jungle of Matrix or kind of Scooby

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Speaker 12: Doo where works very different and out there kind of Scooby.

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Speaker 3: Doo would be, well, I have to ask about County

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Speaker 3: Rapes because he's gorgeous.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I actually can't really say much that I kind

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Speaker 12: of was only went. There's a lot of matricks to

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Speaker 12: help with extras and things. So you know, obviously a

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Speaker 12: lot of films with the big stars, they keep themselves

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Speaker 12: to themselves, which in.

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Speaker 4: Their witty bago Yeah, I.

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Speaker 12: Mean that apparently you've got you've got hundreds of crew

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Speaker 12: members around, you expect them to speak to everybody.

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Speaker 3: Angela, what would be because we're talking about the fact

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Speaker 3: that the film and TV industry has never been healthier

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Speaker 3: than it is right now in WA and.

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Speaker 4: It's only going to get more.

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Speaker 3: So what is your top bit of advice for someone

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Speaker 3: wanting to get into the costume department in this industry.

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Speaker 12: I guess I feel for the people who say that

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Speaker 12: they really they try and they can't get their foot in.

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Speaker 12: I would say, sort of try to let us know

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Speaker 12: that you're around, because we don't know yourself. Out of

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Speaker 12: that if we don't know who you are, And I

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Speaker 12: guess that's a really hard thing for those people to

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Speaker 12: then say.

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Speaker 4: But who do I speak to when they're starting from scratch?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, because I guess there is a bit of a

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Speaker 12: thing where you know, sometimes by the time you hear

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Speaker 12: of a film it's already it's rude. Yes, and these

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Speaker 12: are smaller films, so sometimes you only have five or

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Speaker 12: six people in a costume department. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know Screen West Screen Australia. I don't know,

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Speaker 9: finding a way of getting.

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Speaker 4: Get onto those websites, see what's happening.

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Speaker 12: Do little courses along the way, making context? Yes, just

502
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Speaker 12: letting us know what your skills are, what you can do.

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Speaker 12: That's not only just for the Wopper graduates and the

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Speaker 12: you know, Tafe graduates.

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Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 12: I also think, you know, experience being older. You know,

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Speaker 12: perhaps you've graduated from Wapper ten years ago, you've done

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Speaker 12: some work other places, but you know you've got a

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Speaker 12: skill now yet people who just graduate won't have. So

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Speaker 12: even if you haven't done a lot, you know immediately.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, get in touch. Yeah, I think that's you know,

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Speaker 12: put yourself out there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it is good. And people who are a bit

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Speaker 9: older and have I don't know, lots of different things.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, Angela, thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 3: us into your line of the whole industry.

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Speaker 4: It's fascinating costume department. Yeah, absolutely, thank you you Thanks Angela.

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Speaker 3: Variety magazine has listed its top one hundred horror movies

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Speaker 3: of all time. You can check out the full list

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Speaker 3: at Variety dot com. Shall we just run through the

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Speaker 3: top five? I reckon, we're right counting back at number five,

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Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight's Rosemary's Baby. Yes, Mia, Actually they've just

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Speaker 3: made a movie.

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Speaker 4: It's on Netflix. It's a kind of a.

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Speaker 3: Origin story, okay of the character, right, and it's Daisy,

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Speaker 3: you know from where the core Dad's oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't think what it's called.

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Speaker 4: So that doesn't help anyone, doesn't get back to a

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Speaker 4: bit of a prequel.

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Speaker 3: Number four nineteen seventy five's Jaws, Number three nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 3: Psycho at number two from nineteen seventy three, The Exorcist

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Speaker 3: that was going to be toping? Why was so number one?

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Speaker 3: The number one horror movie of all time? According to

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Speaker 3: Variety magazine is this one?

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Speaker 4: Stop Stop? This is the movie Redsweet called the most

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Speaker 4: horrifying motion picture I have every the Texas Jean Saw Massacre.

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Speaker 4: That's number one.

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Speaker 3: Check out the four hundred four one hundred at Variety

555
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Speaker 3: dot com. Netflix has lined up Sasha Baron Cohen and

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Speaker 3: Rosamond Pike to star in the comedy Ladies first and

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Speaker 3: adaptation of a successful French film with a title that

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Speaker 3: it's way too early for me to even a crack.

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Speaker 3: Don't even try to have a go. Jennie Swear pasts

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Speaker 3: on hum facin.

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Speaker 4: Well you do want to get buried and we can

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Speaker 4: call the French guy guy. Yeah, Cohen, this is interesting.

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Speaker 3: It's going to play an unrepentant womanizer who finds himself

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Speaker 3: in a parallel world dominated by women.

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Speaker 4: That's as French as it gets. So there you go.

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Speaker 4: That's coming to Netflix. Very good. More Clesy more, Lisa

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Speaker 4: more podcasts.

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Speaker 3: He's won the Miles Franklin Award record four times and

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Speaker 3: has been named a Living Treasure by the National Trust.

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Speaker 3: His new book, Juice, is out today. Good morning, Tim

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Speaker 3: Winton made welcome.

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Speaker 13: Oh morning guys.

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Speaker 4: So Tim, I've never heard a book described as cli

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Speaker 4: fi before.

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Speaker 13: It sounds a vaguely pornographic.

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Speaker 4: Vaguely climate fiction. It's climate fiction. Well I reset my brain. Okay,

577
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Speaker 4: climate fiction? Oh look, it's not.

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Speaker 13: It's just as an adventure story. I don't even know

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Speaker 13: what pliction means, but.

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Speaker 6: Clifi.

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Speaker 4: Go figure, So what is the where is the idea

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Speaker 4: for Juice come from?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 13: I guess I've been looking at you know, the way

585
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Speaker 13: that the planet's going in the way that we're kind

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Speaker 13: of just avoiding acting on it. You know, there's the

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Speaker 13: changes that happen to it, and you know, I so

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Speaker 13: I just you know, I kind of imagine the world

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Speaker 13: a little bit into the future and the kind of

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Speaker 13: the world that we'd have to deal with.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 13: So I just placed these people in a kind of

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Speaker 13: extreme environment and saw what they would do is cruel experiment.

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Speaker 2: Ye yes, yes, collecting water and trying to stay out

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Speaker 2: of the harsh heat during the day, even in winter,

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Look, I think I think what we forget is that,

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Speaker 13: you know, the northern half of Australia is already right

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Speaker 13: on the edge of extremities, you know. I mean, and

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Speaker 13: you know we've just got through a winter where we

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Speaker 13: had forty degrees you know, temps in the forties in

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Speaker 13: the winter time. If you add add a few more

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Speaker 13: degrees to that, you know, that's that's a bit of

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Speaker 13: a bit of trouble. And look, you know, when you're

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Speaker 13: when you're writing novels, you're essentially putting people in extreme

606
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Speaker 13: positions and see what they do. If there's no trouble,

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Speaker 13: there's no story.

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Speaker 4: I struggle. Did I read somewhere that.

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Speaker 3: You said, correct me if I'm wrong that this is

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Speaker 3: a story anguished over, a novel you were scared to write,

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Speaker 3: but felt an obligation to attempt.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. Look, I think it's the biggest issue of our day,

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Speaker 13: and I think it's a it's a tough thing to

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Speaker 13: address it. It's hard to get right, you know, it's

615
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Speaker 13: hard to bring readers along with you. It's certainly scaring

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Speaker 13: the pants off our politicians. They're doing everything in their

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Speaker 13: power to avoid taking action. And yeah, look, so it's

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Speaker 13: a you know, it's a big, heavy subject and I've

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Speaker 13: tried to tackle it in a way that's appealing to

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Speaker 13: a reader and somehow, you know, to provoke some kind

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Speaker 13: of response.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ridges the gap, Yeah, in a story, yes, Yeah.

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Speaker 13: But fundamentally it's a it's a survival tale, adventure about it.

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Speaker 13: Guy just trying to make his way in a in

625
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Speaker 13: a tough world, and he's you know, the book starts

626
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Speaker 13: with him traveling across a landscape with a with a

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Speaker 13: kid who happens not to be his and he's just

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Speaker 13: responsible for her, and he's just trying to keep himself

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Speaker 13: and her alive in a pretty hostile environment. When when

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Speaker 13: the world's sort of going to pieces. And you know

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Speaker 13: when when as we're seeing on the news every night,

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Speaker 13: you know, when when a society comes to pieces, everything

633
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Speaker 13: is harder. You know, people resort to savagery. You know,

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Speaker 13: it's not when a climate falls to bits, some society

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Speaker 13: falls to bits. I think we forget, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 13: when we take we take for granted how safe and

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Speaker 13: comfortable we are, and it only takes a few things

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Speaker 13: to go wrong, you know, you know, and it's it's like,

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Speaker 13: it's what we're seeing on the news, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's tough.

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Speaker 13: I mean, look, I think we still think that climate

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Speaker 13: is all in in the future, but half a million

643
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Speaker 13: people die every year just from heat related illnesses all

644
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Speaker 13: owe and so you add a few more degrees to

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Speaker 13: that and yeah, it's all sets up.

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Speaker 4: Tim.

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Speaker 2: When I saw that one minute video, I think it

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Speaker 2: was that you did talk about the premise, and it

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Speaker 2: made me think of how we can't control when we're

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Speaker 2: born where, or when we're born, the situation our family's

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Speaker 2: in and things like location and rich or poor or

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Speaker 2: war zones or state of the environment is one of those.

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Speaker 2: It let me down that sort of path, and there's

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Speaker 2: a part of this where the character is starting to

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Speaker 2: think about the people who caused all issues in the

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Speaker 2: first place.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think if you if you find out that

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Speaker 13: the conditions that you're living in the results of the

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Speaker 13: way other people lived, and you're essentially damned for other

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Speaker 13: people's sins, what does that do to you? I think

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Speaker 13: that would be almost deranging, you know, to find that out.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, I think we're all at the mercy of

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Speaker 13: what's gone before, you know, and we have to somehow

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Speaker 13: cope with, you know, the conditions and the cards that

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Speaker 13: are that we're dealt with.

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Speaker 3: You know, There's one thing I've always believed is that

667
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Speaker 3: prevention is better than the cure, you know. So I

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Speaker 3: mean there's no use just waiting until the end, as

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Speaker 3: you say, until you know, the wheels fall off societies.

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Speaker 4: We know it. Him Now we're for the last couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks Him.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about the growing film and TV industry

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Speaker 3: that's going on in Way. We're getting we're getting the

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Speaker 3: Malaga Film Studios opening up, We're getting people making films

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Speaker 3: down south, up north, just in York. And you of

676
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Speaker 3: course have had several of your works transformed into translated,

677
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Speaker 3: you know, to the screen. How do you feel about

678
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Speaker 3: what's what's going on right now in Wa.

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Speaker 13: I think it's terrific. Yeah, when you know, I mean,

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Speaker 13: I've been in this paper for well so long it's

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Speaker 13: almost embarrassing to say the numbers.

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Speaker 4: Friends almost.

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Speaker 13: You know, forty years ago, I've almost unheard of the

684
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Speaker 13: filmmate and you get local crew and you know, to

685
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Speaker 13: have been able to employ hundreds of people over all

686
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Speaker 13: that time in productions, and for that to becoming more

687
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Speaker 13: more common and intensifying, I think it's a really great thing.

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Speaker 13: And this is a great place to make films. It's

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Speaker 13: a it's a great place full of talent and potential,

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Speaker 13: and I'm really proud of what WA has been able

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Speaker 13: to do in recent years.

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Speaker 4: You know, it is a great place to make films.

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Speaker 3: And I always cite and I hope I didn't imagine

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Speaker 3: this somehow, and you're going to you're going to dash

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Speaker 3: my thoughts on a little, but I always cite the

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Speaker 3: guy that made Cloud Street said said, we have to

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Speaker 3: film it in Wa because you can't recreate the light

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Speaker 3: that WA has.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 13: I think that's I think that's fair. Things look pretty

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Speaker 13: great here.

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Speaker 7: Day.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And also, I mean one of the reasons it's a

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Speaker 13: good place to make films is that it doesn't rain

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Speaker 13: all the time. You can go to incredible places all

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Speaker 13: over the world, but it's going to rain half the time,

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Speaker 13: and and that just you know, when you when you

710
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Speaker 13: can't you know when it's costing millions of dollars a

711
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Speaker 13: day and sometimes millions of dollars a minute when you

712
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Speaker 13: can't shoot because of the weather. Yeah. Look, I was

713
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Speaker 13: really pleased at cloud Street. Got shot along the river too,

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Speaker 13: and I thought it looked great.

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Speaker 2: You know it does and a lot more reliable, like

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Speaker 2: you said, than shooting in Melbourne, where you'll get the

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Speaker 2: sunshine for two hours.

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Speaker 4: And possibly desired too for you know, to go with

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Speaker 4: the plant.

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Speaker 13: Well, well we're should have given the now States starts

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Speaker 13: in the tropics and ends up on the on the

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Speaker 13: veranda of the Antarctic. All we've got all geographical basis covered, Yeah, Tim.

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Speaker 2: Whether we talk to songwriters a lot about where the

724
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Speaker 2: magic comes from, where the songs come from? What about

725
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Speaker 2: your ideas and then therefore the creative stuff for you,

726
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Speaker 2: is it the times you just lock yourself away and

727
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Speaker 2: something will happen, or you have to have that bit

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Speaker 2: of inspiration.

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Speaker 13: Oh look, I just go to the desk.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 13: I'm like, I'm just like a training I just show up,

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Speaker 13: show up to the bench, and hopefully the job turns up,

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Speaker 13: you know. And I know if I don't sit down

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Speaker 13: and wait for something to show up, it might turn

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Speaker 13: up when I'm not there and when I've missed out.

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Speaker 4: I love that, man, my philosophy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And if you've got a special desk, is it like

739
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Speaker 4: an old timer?

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Speaker 13: Yeah? Yeah, I think I've got an old public service

741
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Speaker 13: desk coming nineteen sixties. Yeah, got for twenty bucks. I

742
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Speaker 13: think I was a student.

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Speaker 4: They're the best bargains. Keep doing that, Tim, because jobs

744
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Speaker 4: keep showing up and we love it. So Juice is

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Speaker 4: out now, all five hundred pages. That's one. It's a

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Speaker 4: big one brick, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: You can always you can always use it for a doorstop, Tim,

748
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Speaker 13: thanks for chatting to us this morning.

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Speaker 4: It was good to catch up.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I hate AI. I can't stand. I'm not a fan.

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Speaker 3: And here's another reason today why I don't like it,

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Speaker 3: ending a one hundred and forty seven year old tradition.

755
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Speaker 3: Wimbledon is ditching line judges for AI tech. No really,

756
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Speaker 3: they're going to be the it says chair umpires will

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Speaker 3: remain well, why should hope so?

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Speaker 2: I mean otherwise there's nothing, there's no one for any

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Speaker 2: of the tennis brats to yell at them.

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Speaker 3: AI technology at Wimbledon of all places. I mean we're

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Speaker 3: talking about proper old school where white hare's your strawberries,

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Speaker 3: give me a PIMS. Tradition technology is AI is going

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Speaker 3: to replace it for all atpter events. In twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 3: the All England Lawn Tennis Club CEO said, having reviewed

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Speaker 3: the results of the testing undertaken at the Championship this year,

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Speaker 3: we consider the technology to be sufficiently robust and the

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Speaker 3: time is right to take this important step in seeking

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Speaker 3: maximum accuracy in our officiating, which means it's cheaper.

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Speaker 4: Save a lot of money. Saved money because I've had

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Speaker 4: a bit of not just about money, is that it's

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Speaker 4: about tradition, tradition, it's about money. It's Wimbledon.

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Speaker 2: They've also i mean they've had a bit of assistance

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Speaker 2: from you know, the laser whatever they are, the things

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Speaker 2: that cycle but yeah, whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably that in cricket.

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Speaker 2: They've had a bit of that in helping tennis out

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Speaker 2: but they've always still had the line judges there.

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Speaker 4: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: You can have that, use the technology that's available that

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Speaker 3: you know, you know the fact that it's being filmed,

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Speaker 3: have that back up, but.

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Speaker 4: A I tech you know.

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Speaker 2: The reputation of tennis players, though it can be if

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Speaker 2: they going off, what are they going off at a

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Speaker 2: box or something like a machine.

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Or do they just go yeah, that'll be a more

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Speaker 3: frustrated want to yeah, be more more ful on I'm

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Speaker 3: not I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Next, are going to change the color. You won't have

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Speaker 2: that wimbled and green anymore. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: But they'll be able to wear whatever they want. Of

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Speaker 3: course they will not traditional white.

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Speaker 4: That's so bizarre, crazy

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Speaker 1: And Lisa ninety six am