WEBVTT - Sarah Bassiuoni - Critical Incident - Stan Australia 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:05.080 TV Reload the podcast last week Their Life. Hey guys, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.320 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.719 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Sarah Basioni, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.840 their content creator and writer of Critical Incident, which is 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.520 set to be released on Steran Australia on August twelfth. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.240 You might have seen some of the banners around Australia 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.840 while you've been driving on some of the roads. Sarah 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.560 is a Sydney based writer and director. Since graduating from 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.560 the Australian Film Television Radio School in twenty sixteen, her 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.199 short films Little Secret and Junes have premiered at Academy 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.280 Accredited film festivals. Her work ranges from comedy to drama 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.120 and is often informed by her previous career as a 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.920 human rights lawyer. This series We're Talking About Today is 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.600 set in the suburba of Sydney, where a police officer 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.440 pursues a teenage suspect onto a busy train platform, where 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.080 a bystander is critically injured and the lives of the 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.240 pursuit and the pursuer are all thrown into term well. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.840 The series is gripping from episode one, and I think 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.200 that audiences are going to be really invested into this 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:11.120 crime drama that is set in Australia. We will unpack 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.119 how this show was made, from where the ideas came from, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.400 to some of Sarah's inspiration. I will find out what 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.080 the locals reaction was to a story being filmed that 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.200 is set in their hometown. We will talk about how 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.640 they created the authentic voices for some of the young 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.000 people in this story, and what she thinks of Joie 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.560 Waiteford's acting, who some of us would know from his 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.679 time on X Factor back in the day. Plus, we're 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.000 going to dive into this show lends itself into a 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.080 series two, and what Sarah hopes to do with some 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.440 of the characters if the show does get picked up 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.240 for more seasons. There is so much to unpack with Sarah, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.040 So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.440 world of Critical Incident, which, as I mentioned, is due 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.200 out on August twelfth on s Down Australia. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.000 Hi sentmin, how are you? 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.480 I just was playing something at the same time as 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.800 it was Actually this is hilarious. I was playing the 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.440 Stan Originals Facebook clip of all of the actors using 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:16.040 their words to describe the show. I'm so excited to 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.800 be talking to you about this because I got in 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.200 contact with Stan when I read about it, and the 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.040 weird thing was, I was in Sydney the train station 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.200 where you filmed a part of it, and so it 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.640 was in my mind that I was wanting to watch 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.960 this from my own ego point of view as you. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.280 Yeah, yeah, oh great. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.359 And then I watched the trailer and I was like, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.920 you know what, I need this in my life, like 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.600 I really want to watch a proper Australian crime drama 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.160 in the era that we're in now, which is with 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.400 streaming services we can make shows that are a lot 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:46.960 like what the Americans are making. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:52.360 It's really exciting time to be making Australian drama. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.880 It so is, it so is, and also to be 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.200 in your chair as well and be creating it as 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.120 well from a background of knowledge, I think is why 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.080 this show works so well. So I have to say 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.600 I started watching episode one last night and it was 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.480 a really gripping first episode. That is all I've seen, 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.280 but I cannot wait to keep watching it. 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.160 That's great. No, thank you, thanks so much. I'm glad 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.399 you enjoyed the pilot. We hope that it's a grouping, fun, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:17.480 thrilling ride. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.320 That's what we want for the whole series. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.639 You know, the audience to really roll the coaster along 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:29.640 on this big emotional, psychological thriller that's you know, set 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.160 somewhere we haven't seen before on Australian TV. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.840 Absolutely, And you know it's interesting because like the characters 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.040 in this feel so real and there is a bit 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.760 of a danger of making these shows a bit too bleak, 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.600 where I feel like this it is entertaining. That is 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.480 still a part of it, if that makes sense. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.280 Well, yeah, definitely, that's what we want. I mean, we're 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:54.680 in the entertainment industry. We're here to entertain people, you know, 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.760 generously giving up some hours in their life. 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.960 We want to make sure we may it with that. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.400 I think the other thing is, you know, coming from 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.720 this that world and knowing it intimately and the people 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.880 are involved on both sides of it. Real life isn't 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.080 people don't not many people think their real life is bleak. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.000 It's not how they feel about it. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.920 You know, it might be tough or difficult, and so 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.600 we wanted to show that is authentic and real, and 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.520 I think sometimes with those shows they have their place, 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.159 but you don't want to I don't want. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.680 People watching TV and feeling worse than when they turned 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:33.919 it on. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.280 I'm trying to think about what we were eating, because 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.640 we were really enjoying it, like a good popcorn flick. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.760 I got my partner to watch the first episode as well. Yeah, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.560 oh it was ice cream. It was jamm donut ice cream. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.400 And we were like, yeah, yeah, but so's the show. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.440 We were like, yum, that's so nice. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:53.159 A few things. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.320 It's nice when you can find something that you get 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.200 excited to watch, you know. It's like when you put 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.760 down a good book and then when you finish that book, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.840 for the first few chapters of the next book, it's 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.799 hard to get into and that you were knee deep 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.359 in something that you were enjoying before. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:08.599 Yeah, you get. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.560 There, and with shows you may get there. But with this, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.920 it's a very good first episode. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:13.839 Yeah, you know. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.200 They we put a bit of extra money into the 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.600 budget for that episode, and. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.279 They had a couple of extra days shooting it. But 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.920 it was hard. It was just like a lot of 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.040 running for a lot of paper. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.400 That's why he looks so skinny. We were talking about 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.680 him in the gmoor scenes. We're like, we don't look 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.320 like that, mind, you were eating ice cream. Also not 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.360 for our fitness, but yeah, I can imagine a lot 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.080 of running, a lot of running. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:44.039 Yeah, two solid days of running, I think for quite 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.200 a lot of casting crew. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.880 How did you get this story up and going? Like, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.200 you know, we'll talk a little bit about your background 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.880 at a minute, but like, this is quite an achievement 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.520 to get this story up and going, and there's a 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.599 lot of people trying to get in now with more 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.360 original ideas with all these streaming platforms. I'm curious about 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.040 how you've made this happen. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.359 Well, it's definitely not just me. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:10.080 Lots of great people have contributed and it was really fortunate. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:10.400 You know. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:15.560 I got a great opportunity working on a long contract 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.640 with Matchbox Pictures when I was starting. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.880 Out in the industry, and so I got to know them. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.919 Quite well and was able to pitch to them this idea, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.520 you know, quite early in my career, I guess. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.360 But also everyone involved is. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.560 Really hard workers, you know, and that hard work and 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.000 a bit of luck has come together and we pitched 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.400 the show to stand and they've been phenomenal partners. They 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.719 signed on, you know, straight away, and yeah, we've just 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.000 been working to make sure we get all the elements 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.960 of the show right and I think I think we've 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.160 done a pretty different job. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.960 I love that story. Tonys was on the podcast a 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.000 couple of years ago and he was talking about when 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.720 Matchbox started how there was a lot of people that 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.919 just wanted to work there. So there was like people 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.880 that would take a reception part of it, the job, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.360 or the legal part anyway, anyone that was kind of 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:14.080 doing the functionality of the business. We're all budding content creators, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.480 you know. And then as the business grew and you know, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.920 they had their success, people that had been on the 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.040 ground floor from the start sort of doing other things 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.840 were given the opportunity. And I don't know how real 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.320 that story is, but I loved the idea of it. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.680 Yeah, No, I think that's pretty true. I mean, I 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:31.880 should say slightly different. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.800 For me. I got a job as a trainee script 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.600 editor on The Heights, which was their production and that's 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.800 how I got to know them really really well. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.920 But yeah, they are a great. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:48.600 Production company for incubating talent, and I think they also 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.960 really reward hard workers as well, and so if you 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.400 have those things, then they're a great place to reach 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.720 out to and look for them that first break. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.760 Yeah, and so many people there have even gone on 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.000 to do other things that they're now on the teledex. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.880 I don't know how old you are, but that's probably 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.679 a bum reference for young people. But you can still 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.120 reach out to them and get their advice. That's kind 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.040 of cool in itself. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.080 And I think you know Sheila jdev who is our 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.480 executive producer and was my kind of creative. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.720 Partner in the show on the journey for this season. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:26.559 She does loads of panels and has you know, works 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.400 with co Curious as well in building up new talent, 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.360 and it's definitely something we tried to do in this 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.280 show in front of and behind the camera. So it's 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.880 you know a lot of our writing teams first credit, 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.559 you know, our long credit. Quite a lot of the crew, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.240 you know it's their first big drama series. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.599 So I read this came from your real life experiences 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.080 working as a lawyer in Western Sydney's juvenile justice system. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.000 You come across this story because I was curious, did 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.319 you borrow from real life critical insightdence. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.080 This story isn't based on any one incident, and I 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.319 didn't take any of the kind of action elements from 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.680 any of my experience. But I guess I know those 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:17.000 the world, I know the characters, I know what's likely 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.960 to happen, so, you know, took that authenticity and then 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.120 I love like action movies, and you know, Speed and 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.000 Point Break are two of my fat all time favorites, and. 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.400 So I was like, oh, what could we do that 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.720 has a cool action element to it in this world? 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:35.920 What would that look like? 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.319 So it's kind of that combination of knowing how things 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.600 work but having a bit of spice and imagination. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.319 I've just ticked the speed off the Bingo card because 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.360 I was watching it last night with the running scene 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.240 just before the critical incident, and I don't want to 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:52.400 give too much a weight, so I'm just going to 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.920 leave it at that. But running scene very Keanu reeves 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.360 in Speed. I'm just going to say, and I did 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.480 mention that to my partner while watch it, So Bingo excellent. 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.280 How did you go about getting the tone right for 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.040 this story, especially with so many young voices, so you know, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.400 accurately depicted, you know, in this story. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.200 I think again the fact that you know, I only 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.520 left the law in twenty sixteen, which yes, is an 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:23.240 eternity ago, but also isn't that long ago. And most 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.480 of my clients were young, very young, and so I 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.640 guess I tapped into those memories. But you know, we 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.320 also had a writing team with daughters and sons of 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.200 the right age. We had an amazing cast who would 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.280 pull us up if something didn't feel true to you know, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:47.840 their world. And a lot of the actors playing teenagers 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:52.239 are teenagers. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.320 Which they do before Sarah, like you know before back 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.079 in the day. You know, it's like we went through 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.600 this phase where you know, nine o two or oh, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.000 they had all these old actors playing teenages. And then 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.160 also the issue that I had was Dawson's Creek era, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.559 where you're getting young people to speak as adults. You know, 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.840 the language that they were using didn't match what young 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.320 people would say. And so there's something quite amazing and 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:18.320 beautiful and engaging in seeing authentic voices being displayed on screen. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.439 And I think that's something that you do quite effortlessly 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.640 within this And it doesn't mean that it comes across 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.439 sort of looking like heartbreak high after dark. It does 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.240 suit the tone of this show, this sort of thriller. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.600 Yeah, thanks, thank you. That's very kind of you to 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.080 say that was our hope. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.520 I guess, you know, one of the things we didn't 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:42.959 want to go into bleakness or pseudo doco territory. And 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.440 I just don't know real life that doesn't have a 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.400 lot of humor and different voices, and I like to 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.959 listen to all of them, and so we tried to 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.240 throw as many of them as we could up in 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:54.800 the screen. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.040 Yeah, which I love Western Australia, Sydney, Blacktown paramatter with 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.240 the filmingtions that you used for the story, What was 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.440 it like to be telling this story amongst the locals? Like, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.000 what was it like filming? You know? 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.280 Well, we got to a lot of love on TikTok 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.720 from when we were at Blacktown train station, so that's 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.120 pretty cool. And one day when we were filming in 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.760 the center of Blacktown, real school came out and I 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:26.200 think we were filming the opening of season of episode two. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.000 Sorry, so I don't want to give too much away 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:28.559 there either. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.160 But when the scene went down and finished, the kids, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.000 the real kids who had been stopped, stopped very kindly 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.400 stopped for us, because we could only ask people to stop. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.720 Who had stopped and then watched busted out in like 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.920 various dance moves and whooping and we got a little chance. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.720 So I think we went down quite a treat. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.440 I hope everybody who was excited to see us out 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:54.679 there filming. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.120 Watch the show. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.200 Well, you've already locked them in as viewers. That's actually 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.200 really smart because that a lot want to watch just 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.319 to see whether they can see themselves in the background 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.400 doing their dance routines. Oh my god, that's what I 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.000 was going to ask you about Jay, who I knew 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.239 from X Factor, Like, I think a lot of Australians 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.640 knew him from X Factor, and so some people that 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.480 stumble across this show haven't seen him in a while, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.160 and so it's actually quite hilarious to me that I 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.800 was sitting there going this guy's looks really familiar, Like 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.720 maybe it's because he's a bit Heath Ledgerye, Like maybe 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.160 I'm thinking he reminds me of Heath Ledger and ten 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.560 Things I Hate about You. I was like, No, that's 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.400 the kid from X Factor and he's really good in this. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.800 Yeah, he's amazing. He knocks out of the park. As 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.320 soon as we saw his audition, we knew he was. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:44.920 Hayden, and I think Gie's just going to explode, like 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.560 so many of our cast, onto the scene, or at 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.240 least if talent has anything to do with it, that's 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.160 what should happen. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.040 Yeah, I mean, this is what's interesting about this show 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.240 as well, is there's no big distraction. I mean, there's 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.360 kind of the Dad from Back to the rafters, but 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.040 there's no big distraction of a big name. And I 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.240 was curious about that. Were they trying to force you 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.680 into having maybe a bigger name for the show or 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.040 were you quite happy to you know, Jurassic Parks, Star 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.640 Wars it and have some relatively unknowns to discover. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.840 Yeah. Look, I mean it's always part of a conversation. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.920 I won't like, it's really hard getting a show up, 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.200 and so I think everybody is just trying to figure 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:28.040 out what makes that journey easier, and sometimes a star 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.640 does make that journey easier, but nobody thought that was 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:36.760 the case with critical Incident. So no, they matchbox stand. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.400 They didn't pressure me at all in any way. They 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.080 were just totally supportive. We knew that the lead roles 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.760 were going to be faces we probably hadn't seen. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:47.920 Before, and. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.080 That was that was the path we signed up to 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.200 take early in the day, and once that decision was made, 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.760 it was stuck to. And yeah, I mean, I think 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:06.240 we've discovered just amazing new new faces and so much talent. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.160 It's interesting because I was thinking about there was a 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.640 few shows for a while where I spoke to a 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.440 few people in your Shoes and they talked about having 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.080 an Aussie that's made it big overseas and bringing them 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.240 back to Australia to put them in this show to 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.360 try and get bums on seats. But I sometimes felt 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.920 like it was a gimmick. And sometimes, you know, audiences 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.760 aren't as dumb as what you might think they are. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.160 You know, audiences will feel that sort of stuff. They 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.480 may feel as though that's a gimmick to try and 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.680 bring them in. It's kind of like freak casting in 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:34.000 a way. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:34.680 Yeah. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:39.880 Yeah, And I think what we also, you know, stand 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:44.960 committed to supporting us executing is like action, which is 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:50.840 a different way of bringing people in. And I think sometimes, 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.880 you know, we can underestimate the power of seeing things 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:59.520 we haven't seen before, like action, sequences running through Western Sydney. Yeah, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.880 that can be a big drill card for audiences as well. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.920 Yeah, definitely can. I think it's interesting as well for 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.360 Australians to see ourselves on screen as accurately as we are. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.560 You know. I think sometimes and dating back like twenty 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.560 years with some movies that were made here in Australia, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.520 you know, we'd sort of see people over sort of 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.000 leaning into their Australianism. And I find it really interesting 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.520 now that we're in that era of sort of being 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.560 a little bit less colloquial and being able to tell 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.080 stories that are accessible to global communities that are going 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.120 to watch this, you know, when they come across it 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.320 on streaming platforms, when it gets you know, sort of 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:35.359 resold overseas. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.440 Yeah, I think you know everybody, well, I don't know, 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.120 maybe not everybody. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:40.240 I should just speak for myself. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:44.800 I want to tell stories that as many people as 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:50.400 possible get to see, and I want Australian stories to 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:56.480 excite people who live in Norway or Nigeria or whatever, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:57.120 because I. 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.360 Think we can all learn from each other. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.920 I mean, my parents are both immigrants, ones Irish Catholic, 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.200 the other's Egyptian Muslims, So like I've been growing up 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.520 looking for the things we have in common, for that's 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.200 been my life rather than the things that you know. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.400 Push us apart. And so the stories I want to. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:24.080 Tell universal stories, like I'm not looking to tell niche stories, 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:25.520 but sometimes you go into. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.439 A unique world to tell a universal story. And I 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:29.400 think the more. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:34.200 More specific you can get about with your authentic voice 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.920 about where your story is set, the more interesting and 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.200 in a weird way universal it becomes to outsiders, because 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.639 I think people have pretty good bullshit detectors or you know, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.159 and for what they want are stories that know what 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.320 they're saying, that are authentic about what they're saying. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.480 You definitely get to have that. But also, you know, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.720 what's interesting about this as well is that it has 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.119 a lot of heart. It has like you could just 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.719 do a thriller like this and I could very easily 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.600 see it without it having the pull through which I 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.719 think this show has created, which makes me wanted to 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.600 ask you about which sounds crazy, about what you want 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.320 from audiences watching this, like did you have a mission 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.440 statement about what you were thinking when you were pulling 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.679 it all together? Because I can feel that there's something 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.760 really quite deep and rich behind it all. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:25.280 Yeah, look, the whole pass and crew received a letterup 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.560 when they signed on to this project about what our 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.760 hopes were for the show, what this show wanted to 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.000 be and wants to be, and I hope we've achieved, 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.800 and what we don't want it to be. And we 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.399 didn't want it to be a regular cop show. We 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.600 didn't want it to be poverty porn, we didn't want 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.120 it to exoticize Western Sydney. And then there's a whole 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.840 lot of things we did want, which I'll happily tell 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:58.520 you once we've done a multiple season run. But I 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.439 think one of the really important things of being a 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.480 creator is you put your work, your heart and soul 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.440 into your work, and then you put your work out 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.080 to the audience and it's up to the audience to 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.680 decide what it's about, if they give it, if they 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.440 need to care about that. And I just hope we 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:22.160 deliver a really thrilling, entertaining ride. And I'm pretty confident 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.520 different people will take away different messages from this show. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:27.119 See that. 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.399 No, No, you know what I think, because you're in 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.679 on the ground floor, so you've got some you know 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.200 your own feelings about this, but from an outsider who's 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.240 come across this with no connection to it, I feel 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.280 just really drawn into this. And I don't see it 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.439 as a one and done series. I don't because I 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.520 was interested about your thoughts on it being contained, because 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.080 I feel like it could lend itself to so many 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.600 other situations, so many other critical incidents. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.400 Yeah, we're really hopeful that we get enough eyeballs watching 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.600 the show the whole way through that we'll be able 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:06.919 to come back to Blacktown and I have a whole. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.760 New, exciting, thrilling ride through the world. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.480 We'll meet some people who are new to us, but 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.760 we'll also see characters we've already gotten to know. And yeah, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:23.359 we'll continue to explore the corners that don't get depicted 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:24.880 on ONZTV that often. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.359