1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lolaberry. Hello 5 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: from Byron Bay. Boss and I have just moved to 6 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: Byron Bay. We're recording this intro on the floor of 7 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: what will soon be our loundroom. But at the moment 8 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: all I can see is a sea of boxes and 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: packing staff. But we are so rapped to be here 10 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: and it is so nice to be coming to you 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: from Byron Bay. Today's guest is our last guest of 12 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: the year. We will have one EP next Monday, just 13 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: our Chrissy Roundup, which will just be the Boss and 14 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: I talking all things Chrissy and Byron life. So today's 15 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: e f is our last EP of the year and 16 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: we're going out with a bang. 17 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 2: The iconic Dennis Walter. 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: So if you watch Carol's by Candlelight, he has that 19 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 1: beautiful baritone voice. 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: If you listen to three at W. 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: He has been on three a W for twenty one 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: years now. Prior to that, he was reading the news 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: for winn for sixteen years. This guy made his break 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: when he was only fifteen years old on Young Talent Time, 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: and he talks about being a shy boy and being 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: really nervous and ignoring that kind of self doubt so 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: that he could chase his dreams. He knew at fifteen 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: that he wanted to talk to radio, TV and C. Also, 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: on top of all this, you will hear how humble 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: and grounded he is. Dennis Walter is an absolute legend. 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: I got starstruck when he jumped on the pod. 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: I was so nervous. Man in Fruit mince Pies is 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: a little thank you Praisy, and I was so inspired 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: and empowered after our chat. He's also got a Christmas 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: single out that is available now called We Need a 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Little Christmas. And next year he's got a full album 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: coming out called Yesterday Once. I'm pretty sure that drops 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: in April, and it's all sixties and seventies dreams and 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: he does some call collabs as well. My last thing 40 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I want to say about Dennis Walter has pop the 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Carrels on on Christmas Eve and listen to his wonderful 42 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: spirit and voice. Dennis Walter, it was an honor to 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: have you on the podcast. I cannot wait. 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Till our paths cross again. 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: I have got to admit I'm a little nervous for 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: the incredible Dennis Walter being on the podcast day. You've 47 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: been on my dream list for so long since Yeah, 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: my dream guest list. 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: Okay. So for people listening you are an iconic voice 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: of Australia, I would say definitely. 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: You're probably going to say Melbourne and Victoria. 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 4: No, that's probably well. I spent so much in my 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: career anywhere of but in Melbourne right. 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: And early on too. I cannot wait to I'm going 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: to you'll learn this. I'm so excited to have you 57 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: on that. I'm going to be jumping around as you wish. 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: So you're obviously synonymous with three W Afternoon since two 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. 60 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: Now eleven years yep, now nights Nights. 61 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: Which I listened to all last week, thank you. 62 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: And before that Win News. 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: Win News, and I was doing seven days a week 64 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: for six months of the year because I was doing 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: the win News are during the week, I was doing 66 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: a spot with Ernie on a Friday Yes, when Ernie 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: Sigley hosted afternoons today w and I was doing weekends. 68 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: That's where you and I met, Yes, I came one 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: a few times. We talked about health and wellness. 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: Yes, we did. 71 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: You And this is why, this is the reason why 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: I really wanted you on the podcast, because every time 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: we had a segment together, I was blown away by 74 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: not just your professionalism, but you have and I would 75 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: like in Peter Hitchener to having this same. 76 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: Quality as well. 77 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: It's like a respect for the industry. Yes, that feels 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: very rare. 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: Now, well, it probably is a bit rare. 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so much of life and things within the media 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: are fleeting. 82 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but there's. 83 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: I ask anyone who's been on one of these reality 84 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: shows and suddenly become recognizable in the supermarket until about 85 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 4: six weeks after they've. 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: Been on. 87 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Totally. But I think this is what I love about 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: everything that I've researched about you, as you're in it 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: for the long haul. But you I've done, your work 90 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: ethic is clearly incredible. So I'm going to go back 91 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: to the start. You grew up locally to hear Is 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: that right? We're recording in talkie right now. 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I grew up about twenty five minutes from here 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: in a little place called Series, which is in the 95 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 4: Barable Hills to the right of the Ring Road around Geelong, 96 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: you get to a spot where it's very hilly. 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, where you go up the Yeah, I know, what 98 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: are you talking about? 99 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: Four minutes to the right of that. 100 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: You're absolutely out in the country and it's it was 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: eight miles from the GPO and you have no electricity. 102 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: That's the low as ten or eleven. 103 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. And this is in the sixties, right. So so 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: you and I've heard you in an interview say, I 105 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: think I might have been a mistake because there's eight years. 106 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: Between now, I'm certain. 107 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: But also you went to a local school and there 108 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: was is it true there was eighteen kids? 109 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: I think it was eighteen, it might have been less. 110 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: But we had one teacher for all the grades. 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: How cool? I like that. 112 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: That was good. It was good. 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: And is it true that you had band practice and 114 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: on a Saturday and your teacher would rock up on 115 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: every Saturday without fail, not get paid. 116 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: That was at Belmont High School where I went to 117 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: high school. Yes, he had he churned up on a 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: Saturday morning eight o'clock. We started Freddy Francis, And one 119 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: of my regrets in life is that all of us 120 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 4: talked about nominating him for a Queen's Birthday honor because 121 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: his dedication to music and to the kids was phenomenal. 122 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't believe. 123 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: He rocked that like every Saturday, and if you didn't 124 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: turn up, he'd give the rest of the band a 125 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: lecture about commitments. 126 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: And really that sort of stuff. 127 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: I love that, though he. 128 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 4: Used to clean his fingernails with the baton, which was 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: not good. 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: Really. Yes, okay, so when you were so, I know 131 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm jumping around timeline wise, but were you sink because 132 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: I know you've been singing or you're in young Talent 133 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: time from about fifteen, but at that age when you're 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: doing band practice, was singing your thing? 135 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 2: Or did you have an instrument as well? 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: Oh? 137 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I sing insment, no instruments. I played 138 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: a corner. I graduated to flugelhorn, which is in between 139 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 4: a sort of a corner and a trumpet. Played trumpet 140 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: in the jazz band as well, and I played guitar 141 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: and I ended up in the brass band being on euphonium, 142 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: so I got moved around a lot. So I reckon 143 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: I wasn't very. 144 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: Good or multi talented. I'll go with multi challenges amazing. Okay. 145 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: So and then, so how does young talent time come about? 146 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: You're fifteen years old. One thing I would do want 147 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: to say, actually before I ask, that both parents are 148 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: super creative. Right, Yes, I know dad was a farmer, 149 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: but not by choice necessarily. 150 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: You have researched this well very well. That's correct. 151 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: Wanted to be in banking and stuff. And his both 152 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: his parents died before he was eleven. Yes, I think 153 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: his mom died not long after his birth. Yes, so 154 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: he got sort of forced to become a farmer. He 155 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: didn't want to be a farmer. 156 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: But he had a bit of a passion for singing 157 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: as well. 158 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah he was. He was in the Sunaria. Yeah, 159 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 4: so he did. He really wanted to have a singing career. 160 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: But I mean he had four four children, and I 161 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: was the youngest. 162 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was the mistake, not at all the miracle. 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: I like the way you can turn. You should be 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: in some form of a pire. You are he spin 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: it round for Lola Berry. 166 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: So, and your mom was quite creative. 167 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 4: Mum was a what they used to call a ticket writer, 168 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: but art wise she was really fantastic, but never did it. 169 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: We only had one. I had one. 170 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: Sketch pencil sketch that you'd done and won painting. But 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: she was really talented. 172 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: So okay, so you've got the genes. We know you've 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: got the creative genes within you. How does Young Talent 174 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: Time come about? 175 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Just through my drive? Really, I just wanted to. 176 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: My parents didn't push me. 177 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: They didn't at any point sort of go, well, you know, 178 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: you might be able to do something here. They entirely 179 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: left it to me. So it was my desire to 180 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: go on Young Talent Time, where I lost, and they 181 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: put me through it on AHM, the Honorable Mention, and 182 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: I lost again, and about a year later, the only 183 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: other option back then was New Faces. 184 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I remember I went on. 185 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 4: New Faces and won the heat and then won the final, 186 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: and then Young Talent Time said come back into requests. 187 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Really, and so was Young Talent Time the launching pad 188 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: in many ways? Yes, because that's where LIBERACEI came along. 189 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: Is that where that I knew you'd mentioned this? I 190 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: haven't seen that movie, you know why? Because I was 191 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: scared I was going to be in it. Yeah, I 192 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: went out. Yes, when I started back on Young Talent 193 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: time after the New Faces with Yes, Yes, that meant 194 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: I was recording. I was traveling with them, doing tours far, 195 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: mostly around Christmas and school holiday times. And then the 196 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: LIBERACEI thing happened when Jamie Redfern. 197 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: Came home and so basically that meant did that mean 198 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: like a late night audition, Yes, after he'd performed or 199 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: something like like. 200 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah at the Green Room Club on Queens Road, Okay, 201 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 4: And it was about midnight and I did three songs 202 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: for him with the Johnny Hawker Big Band. 203 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 204 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: It was really it was done properly. 205 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: And then you find yourself in Los Angeles. 206 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: That was the concept. I got there and was told 207 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: within about four days. First of all, he was away 208 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 4: on tour. I got invited to. I got picked up 209 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: by one of their permanent full time songwriters at the airport. 210 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: I went to her house and her and her boyfriend 211 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: were doing drugs. 212 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 1: Oh wow, and you're fifteen sixteen probably. 213 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: About sixteen by this yeah wow. And their son I 214 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: remember this clearly. He just sat and watched television all day, 215 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: eating jam on bread, just a jam sandwich. 216 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: How funny that that's your memory. 217 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: It is clear, because I thought, the hell am I 218 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: going to movie? 219 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: Then I got invited across to his manager's sons place, sorry, 220 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: to his manager's place where his son was. 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: And that's where you had a mate kind of thing. 222 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: No, oh, nothing, nothing, And then I was told I 223 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: wouldn't get the green card or whoever it was called 224 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: them a screen card for. 225 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: Sixty nine months. 226 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a nightmare. 227 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: So here I am. 228 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: I'm over there on other people's money, no prospect of working. 229 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: They're not there. They're actually away on tour. And it 230 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: wasn't really it wasn't their fault. I think from an 231 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: Australian point of view, it wasn't organized. 232 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Got it as it should have been, Yeah, got it. 233 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: Because we surely would have known that before I got 234 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: on the plane. 235 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 236 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: So I came back within ten days. 237 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh good on you. 238 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: Well it was nothing else to do. 239 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: You're able to call it as well. 240 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: And so I was desperately homesick. 241 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: Australia's pretty amazing. That's one thing I've learned about all 242 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: of this pandemic. I'm like, I'm falling really in love 243 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: with Victoria. Like yesterday we went to the Twelve Apostles 244 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: beautiful and we were listening to Dennis walter Christmas album. 245 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: There's a couple of them. 246 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: Yes, great, there's so many goodies. I can't wait to 247 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: talk Christmas with you. Do you know we got so 248 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: excited to have you here that my boyfriend and I 249 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: have made you gluten free fruit mincepires to take home what. 250 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: I've never been treated with. 251 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh they're gluten free though, so Matt, my worefriend, said, 252 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: make sure Dennis knows they're an ex experiment. They're a 253 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: little bit denser than a normal mid special. 254 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So am I I have a lot denser than. 255 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: Many So okay. So you go to America, it's not 256 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: all that maybe. 257 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: You expected. 258 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: And I think LA is very different to what you 259 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: see on I've even interviewed a few actors in LA 260 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: and they're like, if you think it's what you see 261 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: in the movies, you're in for rude Awakening. It's a 262 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: very I think it's quite a hard city. It's amazing, 263 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: but you've really got to pound the pavement. 264 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: I've found. 265 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: But so you come back and I heard an interview 266 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: from a very young age, you knew that your passions were, yes, singing, 267 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: but also radio and news correct televisions. 268 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: You were very clear I. 269 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: Didn't have even when I had opportunities when I went 270 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: to London later. I've never had that desire to be 271 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: a success on the world stagey, but I did have 272 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: a passion to do news and radio. 273 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: I have so many questions about this for you because 274 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: I've done a pilot before for a TV show anchoring, 275 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: and I got so much anxiety around auto Q. It's hard, 276 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: it's not easy, and I was so nervous that I 277 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: wrote learned the script before I went in for the 278 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: audition for the pilot, and I sat down and they 279 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: said the co host was Limo, and they said we're 280 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: going to switch to scripts, and I'd wrote learnt his 281 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: by the end because I'd learned my lines. But they 282 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: switched our scripts around and I thought, oh my goodness, 283 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: I've since learned gone had training in AUTOQ. It's hard, 284 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: but you yeah, so my question for. 285 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: It's hard now the old days, when I was doing 286 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: weekend weather on Channel nine the news, they at that 287 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: point still used the pull through paper, which is where 288 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: someone prints it and then sticks it all together and 289 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: then once in a while you're halfway through the weather 290 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: and the sticky tape or the paper gets a little 291 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: crumbled and the whole thing just folds up in front 292 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: of your eyes. 293 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: Not good. 294 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: But they didn't trust Channel nine News. Brian Naylor at 295 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: that point and Peter Hitchener, both of them pushed back 296 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: really hard to not go to electronic. 297 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: Really can you imagine not having electronic? 298 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 299 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: Ok now, because they were worried because when we were 300 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: already using electronic and I don't think they I don't 301 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: think they invested in the most expensive one and it 302 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: did break down a little bit, which is not good. 303 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh wow. So this is my question for you, And 304 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: this is a very weird question, I know, but I 305 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: was like, I'm here to learn today as well. Do 306 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: you get to read what goes up on the auto 307 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: que before the moment you see it? 308 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: Not so much for regional news, No, really, because we 309 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: were doing between three o'clock and six point thirty, we 310 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: were doing six bulletins a day. 311 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: Yes, so I was doing five lots of intros for. 312 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: All the different areas, different areas. 313 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: Then we would we'd record the five lots of weathers 314 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: and then we do a live bulletin the last one 315 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: the end of the day was a live bulletin for 316 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: the Ballarat Southwest and so that'd be so at the 317 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: end of a long day of radio in Melbourne, drive 318 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: to Ballarat then do the six bulletins. 319 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough. I'm an idiot. No, And I was 320 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: doing six months of the year doing weekend six hour ships. Yeah. 321 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: W doing twelve till six Saturday and Sunday. 322 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: That's a solid shift. Because and also this is the 323 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: other thing. You were on your own, weren't you. So 324 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: it's not like because Grubby and Ddie they had like 325 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: you've got like banter, You've got another person to kind 326 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: of if you're off for a little bit, you can 327 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: be like this festival just carry me through for a 328 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: little while. 329 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: It was all you. 330 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 331 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: And even when I'd come on as a guest, because 332 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: this would be what eight years ago. 333 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: Now, wouldn't it. 334 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: I reckon eight when I come on as I. 335 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Guess, You're always so welcoming, You always knew my name. 336 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: You were so prepared, thanks, Julie. But also you were 337 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: aware of the callers coming in. You were very it 338 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: was it seemed like it was you manning a lot 339 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: of what was going on. 340 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably right. 341 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand there's like a control room and producers, 342 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: but you were always aware of what caller was coming in, 343 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: what they were going to be asking. 344 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 4: If you're a bit of a rough they don't always 345 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: follow what they tell you you're going to do, of course, right, 346 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: Some of the systems for talkback radio now where the 347 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 4: person in the studio, like the host, can see what's 348 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: on the screen and go to that caller themselves. 349 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: Got it, So you can sort of work out your 350 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: own balance. 351 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: So you're screening it a little bit. 352 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we don't do that, got it. Oh Yeah, 353 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: that just put them up on the screen and we 354 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: go to them. 355 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so one more question about news and then I'm 356 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: going straight back to radio because this is just so excited. 357 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: I have a drink, go for it, have as much 358 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: to do. Want Remember we've got fruit Vince pies for 359 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: you to take home. You're upset, my friend. 360 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable. 361 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: So with news, you've and this is where I like 362 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: and you to Pete Hitchener. The two of you have 363 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: got this beautiful intonation and I know that you're a singer, 364 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: so you've got these incredible dulcet tones, and you've got 365 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: this wonderful boy. It's a very smooth voice to listen to. 366 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: It's really nice. Like as I was researching you, I 367 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I could research you for weeks because 368 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: your voice is so nice to listen to. But also 369 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: with the news, I imagine you've got auto Q going on, 370 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: You've potentially got a producer telling you things at the 371 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: same time, and you've got this real calm demeanor. But 372 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: you've got very likable and it's nice to listen to intonation. 373 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: Have you trained for that other than singing? 374 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: No, really, not at all. 375 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 4: In fact, when I was young, I was doing a 376 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: lot of listening to talk radio. Yeah, when I was 377 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: in Sydney every week doing clubs and whatever, I was 378 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: listening to laws and different people. John Pierce, who was 379 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: brilliant on Saturday nights. He'd do six hours on a 380 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: Saturday night and he'd have three topics and he'd do 381 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: the six hours on those three topics. Wow, and he'd 382 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 4: argue with everyone for that six hours and at the 383 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 4: end of it he play a little bit of classical 384 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: music and say, I'm John Pierce and as always I've 385 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: had the last word amazing. 386 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: He was brilliant. Yeah, anyway, sorry, what was the question? 387 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: Oh what was No? 388 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: My father had a big voice through his classical singing. 389 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: But I always wondered whether I actually had my shirt's 390 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: not done it, I haven't. I wondered whether I actually 391 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: had a voice for radio, whether I imagined I had 392 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: a voice for radio. 393 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: Oh, you've definitely got one, just in case you're one. 394 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: Fifty years on. 395 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: But it's so, it's just so, it's. 396 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: So fascinating to research you and your voice from a 397 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm studying acting at the moment. So like we study 398 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: dialects and we have a voice coach, and we learn 399 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: that an Australian accent usually sets us up for a 400 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: lazy kind of like vocal habits. Should I say, whereas 401 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: you've got this? Yeah, it's this. It reminds me of 402 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: like a trusted voice of Australian news, and the same 403 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: with Peter Hitcher. It's that kind of it's the intonation 404 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: of trust. And I don't know what, I don't know. 405 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: You've got the magic quality whatever it is. 406 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, And Peach and I are very good friends. 407 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: I used to be his nutritionist for a couple of years. 408 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: You're in a commercial. 409 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Yes, good memory. So yeah and again and that's why 410 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: I get so excited about mentioning the two of you 411 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: only because you've got that same trust within you as 412 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: someone as a consumer and listener. I feel that, and 413 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: again the respect for the industry, and I just I 414 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: want that, like as somebody that is aspiring to work 415 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: in media. That's something that I want to be able 416 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: to harness because you can't fault that. 417 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: That's like honest truth. 418 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, like Pete and I A what you see is 419 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: what you get. 420 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: Mean, I love that. 421 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: That's the key, right, Well, I hope. 422 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: So okay radio. 423 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: That's that we first met. And I think with three 424 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: A double you have you've been I feel like you're 425 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: part of the material, like you're part of the beating 426 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: heart that is three AW. 427 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one years nine, Yeah. 428 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Twenty one probably more pretty amazing. 429 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: Actually it was before then because I was doing bits 430 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: with Ernie as well. But basically it's about twenty five years. 431 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Quickly about Ernie. Did he because did he kind of 432 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: bring he kind of had your back a little bit? 433 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Didn't he? 434 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: Early? Really early on Ernie. 435 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: I met at the Chrysler Factory in Adelaide when I 436 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 4: was first performing, really, and they used to have shows 437 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: in the canteen every Saturday night, and I was over 438 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: there and Ernie happened to be in the audience with 439 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: Glennis that night, and we stayed vaguely in contact. But 440 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: when he started to do a tonight show out of Ballarat, Okay, 441 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: he asked me if I come and do something every 442 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, which was good fun. 443 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: And I also used to run into him at the 444 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: airport all the. 445 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: Time, really all the time, so serendipitous. 446 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 4: Then I started doing Friday lunch with him, Yes, Fred 447 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 4: w and we became closer and closer friends. 448 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: So when I found out you've mentioned him as somebody 449 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of been an inspiring figure throughout the years, 450 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I then researched Ernie and then I was going down 451 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: the rabbit hole of Ding Dong and Ernie. They looked 452 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: hilarious together, like what a. 453 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 4: Duo well in Melbourne Today, which was their morning show 454 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 4: I was doing. It was part of what I was 455 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: doing at nine, when I was at that point when 456 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: I was doing Keino. 457 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen your Keino. I actually watched the video 458 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: of you do again it says twenty nine and feeling fine. 459 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: Actually there was one other number that got Yeah. We 460 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: won't go into the details, but I was a bit naughty. 461 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: Were you cheeky? 462 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes? We never got one complaint, not one. 463 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Really because you didn keep over for ages, didn't you 464 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: fair while? 465 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: But three two or three years it. 466 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: Looked like so much fun? And did you have a 467 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: home studio setup for that? 468 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: No? I did it in the tiny little studio which 469 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: I think. 470 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: Was Graham. It was somebody's converted dressing room. Might have 471 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 4: been graamed really, yeah, but I was in there Channel 472 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 4: nine each afternoon. Somehow it got out how much I 473 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: was getting paid to do this very. 474 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: Short segment ninety seconds. 475 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: Yes, And there was a cartoon in the Herald son 476 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 4: or the Herald which said it was my wife welcoming 477 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 4: me home, saying did you have a hard minute at 478 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: the office today? 479 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: It was very clear it looked like so much fun though. 480 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: It was fun. 481 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I even saw you're a lot of fun 482 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: to research on YouTube because what was that comedy skit 483 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: show was at full front fast forward and they did 484 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: a satire review doing Keino and singing a madge. I've 485 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: written it down a song on Young Talent Time, singing 486 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: it whilst calling Keno. 487 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: The person that was imitating. 488 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: Someone brooks his name, and he did a brilliant job. 489 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: And they did the Keno draw where I was just 490 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: pulling the balls out of the container the ones I. 491 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: Wanted to pick out and singing impossible dream is that? Yeah? 492 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: So if you ever get bored one afternoon, just a 493 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: YouTube yourself. 494 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 495 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: Anything about that till three weeks ago. Someone rang in 496 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 4: on the radio and said, have you ever seen I said, no, 497 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: I've seen it now, so good. 498 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: Okay, So radio, you've obviously, like I said, had this 499 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: wonderful career at three at w you've been Yes, it's 500 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: talk back, but also like your audience is informed, like 501 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: you're on top of the news, breaking news. Has there 502 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: been any like I don't want to say standout moments 503 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: of like a highlight, but maybe like a big breaking 504 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: news moment. Yes. 505 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 4: I was on air when we learned that Peter Brock died. 506 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 4: I was on air when we learned of Steve Irwin. 507 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: I still remember that exact moment. 508 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: I was on air with the christ Church earthquakes. News 509 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 4: was coming through and Kareninch was doing nutrition with me, 510 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 4: and she looked up at the monitor in the studio 511 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: and started to shake and almost burst into tears because 512 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 4: her daughter's best friend was seen running in fear of 513 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: the earthquake. 514 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: So that was just bizarre. 515 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: I was also on air when Burke Street happened, and 516 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 4: Dennis Okaine was doing a presser with Robert Doyle because 517 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: he was then Lord Mayor, and his voice started changing 518 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: and I said, this was a quarter to one, and 519 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 4: I said, you're right, it's something's going on here. 520 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: He said. 521 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: This helicopter's blow overhead, he said, and then the car 522 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: came up Swanston Street and it's that. Then we just 523 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: watched her, sorry can watch We realized that something serious 524 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 4: was happening. And then over the next between ten to 525 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: one and three o'clock, we had all these people bringing 526 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: in saying what they were seeing, and they were locked 527 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 4: in their buildings. They're looking down on what has happened. 528 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 4: We spoke to one fellow rang in. Some listeners got 529 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: their kids who were in lockdown to ring into the 530 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: station that keep us informed. And one bloke rang and 531 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: he said, he said, I'm looking at the front of 532 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: the Commodore and there's a baby stroller on it, and 533 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: that was horrendous. And I remember just before three we 534 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 4: spoke to Christine Nixon. She was then not police chief, 535 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: but she'd been standing at the corner of I think 536 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: William Street at the lights. Yeah, the Carrot comes behind 537 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: her on the footpath. 538 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I've got goosebumps. This as your retaelling there. 539 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: How do you hold yourself together? 540 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm not good at that. I think you are. 541 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: I was on there the night of the Eastern Freeway 542 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 4: thing as well as that. 543 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: That was what you're getting calls as. 544 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I was really confronted by that. So 545 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: that really difficult. 546 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: And did something overcome you where You're like, this job 547 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: right now is bigger than me, and I'm here to 548 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: almost like hold the space and facilitate whatever in order 549 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: to keep the audience informed. 550 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: You just you've got to keep them informed. But I 551 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 4: wear my heart on my sleeve, so I'm prone. 552 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: To I have seen this. 553 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: I have seen her. I don't think this is a 554 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: bad thing. I've seen her. I love Christmas and so 555 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: I've watched many videos of you at the Carrot. It's 556 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: actually you're part of my Christmas absolutely, and unashamedly, might 557 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: I say, but you're part of my Christmas tradition at 558 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: one thousand percent my In fact, we're in my dad's 559 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: holiday home recording this right now. And he called me 560 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: and he said, what dave you got Dennis Walter coming in? 561 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: I said Monday, And he said, please promise me you 562 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: clean that house. 563 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: He said he everything's fine. 564 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: Yes, actually said I'm going to ask for a shout 565 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: out for NOL. 566 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: So, hello, Nol. 567 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: He's going to love very Christmas. 568 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: So give me the keys to your holiday. It's nice. 569 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: So's you've made You will have made his Christmas just 570 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: by saying that. But I was watching on YouTube. You 571 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: were it was actually I think last year's Carol's by Candlelight, 572 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: and you said, this is nearly my fiftieth, and you 573 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: got choked up, and I got choked up watching it. 574 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: We can't actually work out how many it is because 575 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 4: I did them for Channel Oh. 576 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, oh yeah, when was Channel oh? 577 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: Like yes, so we can't. 578 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 4: I don't know how many I've done for Channel Oh, 579 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: but I know that when Channel nine took it over, 580 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 4: I've done. 581 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: Every year bar one, so. 582 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: It's it's probably it's not fifty it's probably getting closer 583 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: to forty pretty impressive, but it's definitely about thirty five. 584 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but every time 585 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: that I'd come on and do a sing with you, 586 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: I was like, if you picked your song yet, that's right, 587 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: and you go, what give me your request? 588 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: Lol? 589 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, first, Noel, because my dad's name 590 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: is Noel's felt the same way, and so that's kind 591 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: of our Christmas tree every year is just Noel baubles 592 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: because it's like an ode to my dad and we 593 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: And you said, you know what you should do? You 594 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: should come to the dress rehearsal. 595 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: Yes, because I was. 596 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: I always put Christmas on at my house so often 597 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve is spent prepping food with the carols on 598 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: in the background. 599 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: And you said, come to the dress rehearsal. It's like donation. 600 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: It's the night. It's the twenty third. So I rocked 601 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: up to the dress rehersal my brother and my dad. 602 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: You jump on stage and you're like, this one's for 603 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: La La Berry. 604 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: Do you I did? 605 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: Do that? 606 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: You did? 607 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: I did? 608 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: And I updated my Facebook status to year made Dennis 609 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Walter just dedicated this song, So you b got me 610 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: so much joy, and I've never got to thank you 611 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: for that, So this is my moment say thank you 612 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: so much. 613 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: And my dad was nudging me, going. 614 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Did you just see that? I said, yes, Dad, let's 615 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: just soak it up. 616 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: But there's something really magical. 617 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: On a more serious note about the carols and you 618 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: you bring so much heart, and please keep doing them 619 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: forever and ever and ever. 620 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: Well, I'll be doing them as long as they as 621 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: long as the phone rings. 622 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: Has it rung for this year as hasn't it? Are 623 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: you allowed to reveal what you're going to see? 624 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I've got a new single out, Christmas single which 625 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 4: came out out of nowhere, as did the recording deal 626 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: with Sony, which is just a story in itself. But 627 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: one of the execs rang me about seven weeks ago 628 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: and said, look, we need a little Christmas and he 629 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: said that's the song. He said, but we need to 630 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: do it not on Papa like it was in main 631 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 4: the musical. H we need to do a modern version 632 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: of it. 633 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. I listened to it yesterday. Yeah, and the 634 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: lovely girl there, oh her voice. 635 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: And it's just gorgeous. Michael Christiana did the arrangement. 636 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: He's done a lot of the I also stalked him 637 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: on instag Yes. 638 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: A bit of se He's done a lot of seekers work. 639 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: He's brilliant and it's come up a treat and it's 640 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: just the right message. 641 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 1: You've got some favorites of I've got some favorites that 642 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: you always do though, because of your so for people listening. 643 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: If you have been living under a rock and you 644 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: haven't heard Dennis Walter at Christmas, you see it's baritone, 645 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: right based, baritone, super deep, beautiful, which was why you 646 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: were so did so well with young pound time. You're 647 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: this like skinny, little fifteen year old with this really 648 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: boomer of a voice. 649 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, and brendous. 650 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: And did I hear an interview that you weren't so 651 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: prone to dancing? 652 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: Oh yes, I am the crappiest dancer in the world. 653 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: Me too. 654 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Don't worry. 655 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: No, I'm worse than you. 656 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 657 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: I would think though, because you're a singer, you'd understand 658 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: beat tune. You'd be way better than me. 659 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: I understand. It doesn't mean the body does if it makes. 660 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: You feel any better. 661 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I auditioned to go to drama school and I didn't 662 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: get a high enough ter score ter score to get 663 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: into the Monash Performing Art score. I was like, I'll 664 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: just audition with musical theater and get in that way. 665 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: I sung, Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes 666 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: Benz a cappella? And they said stopped me halfway through 667 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: and said, hmm, we think you may have a pitching problem. 668 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: Oh so if I can't sing or dance. 669 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: But I did. 670 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: I still got into the course, thank goodness, but not 671 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: the musical theater. The acting one. Thank you lucky is 672 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at because the the bits no good. 673 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: Well it makes me feel better about myself. Good good. 674 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So you so does that mean that the carols 675 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: you're going to be singing your new song? 676 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 4: Yes, So we're trying to work out how because we 677 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 4: don't know if Christmas can journey to Melbourne because she's 678 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: in Brisbane. Okay, hopefully she can, and but they've got 679 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: other ways. 680 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Great of course, because there will be no audience this year. 681 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 682 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: That will be bizarre. 683 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: It will be, but how amazing because I think people 684 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: are going to need carols more than ever. That's what 685 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: I had to go ahead, absolutely. 686 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: And so many people. 687 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the viewership is, but so many 688 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: people that will be part of their Christmas, Like it's 689 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: my Christmas Eve ritual. 690 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: It's not just Australia, it goes internationally. 691 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 692 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: So are you singing any other carols at this point? 693 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: I'm not sure they might need it having to do 694 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 4: it all different. Yeah, we usually do two songs. 695 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. 696 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it. I also love your 697 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: rendition of Amazing Grace, which I know is is that Christmas? 698 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 2: It is kind of Christmasy, but it's not really, is it. 699 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: No, it's just it's the right sort of message. 700 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 701 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, my father did that with me carols. 702 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: I've seen a photo of it. Is it stand? Yeah, 703 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: I've seen a photo of you too. 704 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: He was almost eighty at that point, and Remy Martin 705 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 4: Brandy got him on stage because he was so nervous. 706 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: He'd never been in front of him. 707 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: It's a huge audience, orchestra. 708 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: And chorus and this massive candles out front. Was he 709 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: was a big thing. 710 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 4: Oh, he's great. And then we reprieved it about six 711 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 4: or seven years ago when my niece Julie came on. 712 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 4: We did amazing grace. 713 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: Ah, I love this. Okay, So I've got to ask 714 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: this question. You're probably gonna laugh when I ask it. 715 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: You want to be on carols and do it? 716 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: Like I said, I have a pitching problem. 717 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy to I'm happy to just be a humble 718 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: consumer of the carols. 719 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: Every do you get nervous? Is my question? 720 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 4: I get more excited. I just I love doing it, 721 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: and we're usually most of us are struggling to make 722 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: sure we've got the lyrics right. 723 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: Really, there's no autok there is. 724 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: There is for the host, but not for us. 725 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, so you've just got to wing it. Well, 726 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: you've got to know it. How much notice? Do you 727 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: get to learn the songs? 728 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: Quite a few weeks usually. 729 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: So they will probably give you If you end up 730 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: doing a second song, you'll get that at least it'll be. 731 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 3: A Carol and I'll probably know it. 732 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: Vaguely great, and you do only do the Jill. I 733 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm presuming the geelong Carols won't. Will 734 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: they still happen this year? 735 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: But you usually do. 736 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 4: I was going to try and do them virtually, yeah, 737 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: But the more I thought about it, the more I thought, 738 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 4: hang on, do you really want to be sitting around 739 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: a laptop as a family. I'm just not sure that's 740 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 4: the I'm doing a couple of them in other areas, 741 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 4: but I just wasn't sure whether it was. The whole 742 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 4: idea of Carol's My Candlelight is that, yes, you watch 743 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: it as a television event when it's done to the 744 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: level and channel nine. 745 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: I don't know whether you want to zoom it. 746 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I understand that. 747 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: I totally because it's about connection, right and connection. 748 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 3: The family is gathering on the lawn in front of you. 749 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 2: Totally. No, I totally hear that. 750 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: I just guess I'm looking for any excuse to soak 751 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: up Carol's and Dennis. 752 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 4: It's the most beautiful setting I've got for Geelong Carroll 753 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 4: because we put the stage backing onto corri Obey and 754 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: the people sit up in the natural amphitheater at Eastent Beach. 755 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 3: It's gorgeous. 756 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been asked this a million times before. 757 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: What's your favorite Carol? 758 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: Again? I know? First Noel, Oh No, I'm serious. 759 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: Really, Oh, daddy is going to be wrapped? I meant 760 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 1: that now, Okay, you've got an order of Australia about 761 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: five years ago. How did that happen and how does 762 00:36:59,480 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: it happen? 763 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: I got it for services across all media and performing arts. Yeah, 764 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: performing arts, but you don't if that was what you mean. 765 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 4: It's great that I've been able to have some success 766 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 4: across different areas. But I really think that when people 767 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 4: nominate you, they have a really good look at you. 768 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: And I think it's a lot to do with how 769 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 4: much input you have into the community. 770 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: And you, my friend, have a lot almost I don't 771 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: know how you have the hours in the day that 772 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: to that level. 773 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 3: I possibly say yes to too many things. 774 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm probably lucky about that because you're doing this podcast. 775 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 3: The Yeah, I'm involved with quite a lot. 776 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: And I've seen Salvos as well. 777 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 3: You do, I do. 778 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: I used to live in Sydney and so every Christmas 779 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: I do the Selbos and either my mum or dad 780 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: did fly up and we do the Salvos together on 781 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. It's the best in environment. 782 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 4: Well, I'm hoping we're going to be able to do 783 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: my final show on aw this year from the Citadel 784 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 4: up the top of Burk Street. 785 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: You've got to do it. 786 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 3: And we've done we're not doing afternoons. 787 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 4: We've done it from there the last two or three years. 788 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: Oh perfect, And you get all people. 789 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 4: In, some of them who don't have connection with family. 790 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: We give them Christmas Lunch. 791 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. 792 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: And one thing I learned about getting involved with the 793 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: Salvos and working at the Christmas Day lunch is although 794 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: Christmas is such a wonderful time for family and connection, 795 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: it can also be confronting for a lot of people 796 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: as well. And so it's so important, makes the carols 797 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: so important, it makes all these things that we can 798 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: do for the community so important, don't you. 799 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 4: Think because some of those some of the people find 800 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 4: Christmas extremely stressful. Yeah, because if you're in a situation 801 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: in life you actually don't have family or friends and 802 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 4: they for from the middle of November, keep hearing Christmas. 803 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 3: It's great, it's fantastic. Well now it's not not for some. 804 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 3: Not for some. 805 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 1: And that's I reckon as well, because I'm thirty five 806 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: now and I probably have my first Selvo's Christmas, like 807 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: voluntary at selo Is Christmas when I was thirty, And 808 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: I think until you're thirty, you kind of think you're invincible, 809 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: and you think you're a bit immortal and you're like 810 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: everything's peaches. And I remember that moment. I was like, oh, wow, 811 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: I've had a very blessed life, Like how lucky that 812 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: I've been able to enjoy all my Christmases. And that's 813 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: why I think, Yeah, I don't know, we're very very lucky. 814 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 2: And in Australia we're very, very very lucky. 815 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, right through this whole COVID thing. 816 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 4: When you look around the world, Oh yeah, it's to 817 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 4: be here and to be in the position we now are. 818 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: In good, big time, big time mega. We're very much 819 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: the lucky country right now. I have another radio question. 820 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna, like I said oldest, I've made too 821 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: done too much research on you that I got so 822 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: nervous that I knew that i'd end up asking you 823 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: questions that don't aren't like chronological. 824 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 3: So that's fine, that suits me, good good. 825 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: Well, it's actually it's really daunting interviewing you because you're 826 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: it's usually the foots on. 827 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: The other the shoes on the other foot show. 828 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,479 Speaker 1: Are you Oh good? 829 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 3: Good? 830 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So you've interviewed so many amazing people, both I presume, 831 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: both on the news, but more more so with radio. 832 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: And I saw you do an interview with Beach Boys, 833 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: Joel Legerton, the ab Fab Girls when they bought their 834 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: movie out. Has there been anyone You're like, Oh, they're 835 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: a legend, and they're a legend off the mic as well. 836 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: Yes. 837 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 4: Actually, when I think back, sometimes I go back through 838 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 4: photos that have been take. 839 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: In the studio. Bloody hell. Yeah, there are so many people. 840 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've reminded me of a couple that I'd forgotten about. 841 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: Some of these are on YouTube, so they've been filmed. 842 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: Yes. 843 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: Cat Stevens, Oh my goodness. He came into the studio 844 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 4: because of his religion. He needed to have his wife 845 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 4: sitting near him or within. 846 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 3: Whatever. 847 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: She sat there, which I usually can't stand someone bring 848 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 4: someone else into the studio who's not actually a part 849 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 4: of it. 850 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 3: He was just mesmerizing. 851 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: I mean also the voice, let's. 852 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 4: Voice, everything about him, and I know it's I know 853 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 4: it's there are parts of his life that have been 854 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 4: where people are annoyed at him. Excuse me, but he 855 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 4: is completely engaging. 856 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: My mum when she was she would have been it 857 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,479 Speaker 1: was while he was still Cat Stevens. Because his name 858 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: hasn't he with his religion is. And so my mum 859 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: went to one of his concerts many many years ago, 860 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: and she said, that's a concert that changed my life. 861 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: He's one of those people, isn't he. 862 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 4: Yes, it's peaceful. Yeah, there's something calming about him. But 863 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 4: mind you, I did feel also under their control. In 864 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 4: one other interview with someone who's quite different to that, 865 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 4: Jeffrey Edelson, really and I felt like I wasn't getting 866 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 4: the answers that I wanted. But he I can understand 867 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 4: why he's been so successful in business because he takes 868 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 4: control of the situation there. 869 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: So in that moment, did you just kind of like. 870 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 4: Bloody yellow suits he wore at the Melbourne cap Carnival 871 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 4: feeding what's that about? 872 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: I remember? I remember, But did you in that moment 873 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: when you were like, okay, I don't have the rains here, 874 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: did you just kind of go, well, I'm just going 875 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: to have to. 876 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 3: Go with it. 877 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 4: With Cat Stevens, it was just a pleasure he was giving, 878 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: he was calming, he was whatever, amazing As against Killian Murphy, 879 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 4: really sorry. With Jeffrey Edilson, he just wasn't going to 880 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 4: answer any question straight. And can I get sued for this? 881 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 4: He just he controlled the situation. I didn't have time. 882 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 4: Weere was short on time. I didn't have time to 883 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 4: try and go deeper. 884 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: You just mentioned Killian Murphy and I just got very excited. 885 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 5: Yes, many do what talent came into three I w 886 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 5: when we're in South Melbourne, Yes, which you remember. Yes, 887 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 5: And he obviously was sick of doing the pr because 888 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 5: these people you don't realize it. We just spot them 889 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 5: on you see them on a Today Show or a 890 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 5: Sunrise and they're doing oh hundreds. Yeah, Rod Stewart I 891 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 5: spoke to. I was the last interview with Rod Stewart. 892 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 5: He had been sitting in his home studio for about 893 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 5: eleven hours. 894 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: No, do you remember the Heath Ledger Koshi debacle where 895 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: He's Ledge appealed to Mandarin in the middle of the 896 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 1: interview in Australia there was an uproar about He's Ledger 897 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: being disrespectful and he came out later and said, I 898 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: was back to back interviews. 899 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 2: I just wanted to eat something. 900 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: I needed to quickly eat something, and it was a 901 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: kind of taken the wrong way. 902 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 3: Yes, but they it's all that and it's only the 903 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 3: real I'm sure Killy Murphy's following gladuated. 904 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 4: He sat in the studio and watched Sky News on 905 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 4: the monitor. He didn't look at me once and kept 906 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 4: giving me, yeah, it's a it's a good scene. Not really, yeah, 907 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 4: well you know yeah, And then he had the audacity 908 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 4: to say, have you seen this movie? Oh, I've seen it. 909 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 4: I'd suffered through. It was one of his early ones, 910 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 4: and it wasn't very good. 911 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: Because I think with him and quite a few other actors, 912 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 1: they see themselves as artists and therefore the whole media 913 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: gambit that comes with it, and the press and the 914 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: pr A lot of people aren't. 915 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 2: They don't enjoy that bit. 916 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: Oh I can understand that, and that might be, and 917 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 3: the the. 918 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 4: How strenuous it is, just being asked the same questions 919 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 4: all the day. 920 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I asked you what your favorite Karl was, 921 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: so I'm sure that. 922 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine. I'm not doing forty three of these today. 923 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 924 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: Mentally, yeah, I think we don't realize. 925 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 4: Once you've been interviewed by Lola Perry, you don't need 926 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 4: to be interview anywhere else. 927 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: There's there's my sound grab, there's do you want. 928 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 3: Me to repeat it? 929 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: Oh, you're amazing honestly, you are so so amazing. Okay, 930 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: I've got a couple more questions that I know. I 931 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: am so aware of the time and it's just flying 932 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 1: with you. Okay, two more things. First of all, I've 933 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: heard you say something that got me so inspired, and 934 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: you said, I don't have regret. 935 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 936 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: Can you ex explain that a little bit because that 937 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: I love that. I've got that feeling. I love it, 938 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: but I do have fear of regret, like I live going. Oh, 939 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to have fear. I'm going to jump 940 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: towards that scary thing. 941 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of people who could 942 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 4: do a lot of things who don't do it because 943 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 4: they're scared of failing. Yeah, I've got a family member 944 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 4: who I would love to have had go on some 945 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 4: of the television shows that the idol or whatever it's 946 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 4: never hasn't happened, it won't ever happen. Could be a superstar, 947 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 4: and I never discussed it with them. I'm not even 948 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 4: saying they're mate or female, but I've never discussed it 949 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 4: because I realized that there are lots of people who 950 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 4: won't put themselves out there for things. If I hadn't 951 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 4: put myself out there for you tell the time, even 952 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 4: though I was desperately shy and new faces, none of 953 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 4: this would have happened. So but you do have to 954 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 4: be prepared when some opportunities come along. Because when I 955 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 4: started doing Keino, suddenly people saw me talking. 956 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: And by chance the people who were. 957 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 4: Running three GL too long running the radio station, they went, oh, 958 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 4: you can actually talk in my ninety second sequence. 959 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: Numbers. Good night. 960 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 4: But they said, oh, he might be all right to 961 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 4: do some radio. So I started hosting mornings at three GL. 962 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 4: Had to learn how to. 963 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 2: Panel, and mornings is a very early start, isn't. 964 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 3: No. Mornings was like eight point thirty. Well that's okay, 965 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 3: But then. 966 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 4: Keino was happening. Then suddenly I was on the radio. 967 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 4: This is all music at this point, and then three 968 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 4: MP rang me came to Melbourne. That went really well there. 969 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 4: But I always wanted to do talk. But you've got 970 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 4: to be ready when you get the opportunity. There's been 971 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 4: a lot of singers who had a bit of a 972 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 4: cracket radio and failed miserably. Really yeah, because they think 973 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 4: it's all about them and it's not. It's about the listener. 974 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 2: I love that. 975 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: So basically your goal every time you go on is 976 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: to give back to listener, hear the listener, and inform 977 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: the listener. 978 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 3: Is that kind of you when you're disagreeing with them? 979 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you've got You must have the patience of 980 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: a saint. 981 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 3: Then. 982 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 4: I am a very impatient person in many areas of life, 983 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 4: but there are some things I'm very patient with. 984 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: And is this where you mentioned earlier when you were 985 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: younger with the young talent times off, it was your 986 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: drive that carried you there? Has it been your drive 987 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: that's been able to get you to that point of 988 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 1: going Yeah, I was shy. I can feel the fear, 989 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: but I'm going to do it anyway. Is that the drive? 990 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, yes it is. I just wish I could 991 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 3: have got over some of that earlier in life. 992 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like at fifteen though, that's you're an a 993 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,959 Speaker 1: type personality. You've got You're doing good. 994 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 4: I had the skinniest, most horrible and I still have 995 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 4: them legs. I wasn't confident about. 996 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 2: Myself, but that's a lot of people. 997 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, even for me, Like I know, I sound really confident, 998 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: but I batter with my confidence all the time. And 999 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: I think as well, in media, you're kind of forced 1000 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: to do that on a very concentrated you're very hyper 1001 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: aware of yourself. Yes, and so that confidence you need 1002 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: to somehow have you back. It's a tricky balance. Thank 1003 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: you for that one. That was my notebook of because 1004 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: I yeah, my goal is to live without regret. 1005 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 2: That's one of my mottoes. Good, So thank you. 1006 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 3: It's I just feel like we I've met in life. 1007 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 4: I've met a lot of people who give the impression 1008 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 4: that they're far better than what they actually are, and 1009 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 4: you get a lot of other people who have that 1010 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 4: lingering doubt it stops them. 1011 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, how you go with something? 1012 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's okay to feel it out, but yeah, 1013 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: you've got to have the drive that, like you said, 1014 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: propels you forward. So the next one, I want to 1015 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: talk to you when this is my last question. 1016 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 3: I promised my friend I watch to sell me. It's 1017 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 3: time to get moving. 1018 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:16,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet. 1019 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 3: Thanks for that. 1020 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, work ethic because you've kind of you've touched 1021 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: on it already, like you've there was obviously a period 1022 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: of your life and I think it probably is a 1023 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: constant where you've worked that seven days a week and 1024 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: kind of knowing what you wanted from quite a young 1025 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: age and being like, well, I'm just going to go 1026 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: for it. Also knowing I really want to work in radio, 1027 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: I really want to And how much of it Obviously 1028 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it is skill set and a lot 1029 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: of it is talent, like your voice is phenomenal. And 1030 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: then there has to be another bit that's work ethic, right, Yes, 1031 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: how much would you say it? Like, how how much 1032 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: would you say is work ethic? 1033 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 3: A lot? Yeah, a lot. 1034 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 4: There are a lot of people in my our industry 1035 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 4: who want to sit back and have everyone adore them. 1036 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 3: You've just got to work, You've got to work. 1037 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 4: I'm reading a book at the moment called Catch of 1038 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 4: that the people who started Catch, Yeah, Catch of the 1039 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 4: Day and Catch. 1040 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: I'll put it in the show notes. 1041 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 4: I'll find goop on the Libitch Liberwitz brothers. Well, they've 1042 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 4: written a book and it's just saying exactly how it's been. 1043 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 4: Not how clever am I, It's been bloody hard work. 1044 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 4: These are people who started off going to markets. They 1045 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 4: were getting there at four am, so they got the 1046 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 4: best spot. Now they turn over hundreds of millions of 1047 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 4: dollars a year, so it's. 1048 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 3: Working hard. 1049 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 4: It's not always going to pay off, but it has 1050 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 4: to pay off in some way. 1051 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Do you know. 1052 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: Nova host him Blackwell, Yes, So I had him on 1053 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: and he talked a lot about John Laws, him being 1054 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: an inspiration, and I said, how much is talent? How 1055 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: much is heartwork? And he goes, talent might get you 1056 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: in the door. Granted, He's like, so I might hear 1057 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: you somewhere and go, I'm going to give this guy 1058 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: a shot. And he's like, but if you want to 1059 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 1: keep it, if you want to stay there, that's all 1060 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: hard work, which I loved. 1061 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 4: John Laws is still on air. Yeah, Bob Rogers and 1062 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 4: Sydney just retired. I think it pushing up ninety. 1063 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,240 Speaker 1: Is there one thing as well, just with radio and TV, 1064 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: is there a difference in because the pace feels different. 1065 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Radio, you have no idea what's coming next? Talk radio? 1066 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 4: Talk radio talking about you have no idea. You don't 1067 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 4: know if the next caller. The last couple of weeks 1068 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 4: on air, we've just had a couple of callers that 1069 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 4: have said things that are just. 1070 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 3: So wrong, so bad, so amusing selling me to gain 1071 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:06,359 Speaker 3: and multiply talking about sexual things. You don't know what's 1072 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: going to. 1073 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 2: Come and how do you handle it? 1074 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 3: Television is usually very structured and can be edited and whatever. 1075 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: Right, and they've got even Live to Air has got 1076 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: usually a little delay so they can bleep if they 1077 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: need to bleep. 1078 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got seven seconds. Wow. 1079 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: I love that. I love knowing that. 1080 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, and doing nights you get a whole different it's 1081 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 4: a whole different vibe. 1082 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, because people are up late as well, because is 1083 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: it eight to midnight? 1084 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 4: You're to midnight and not when footy's on the Footies 1085 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 4: on first, but a till midnight for six months of 1086 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 4: the year, which is great, and then a till midnight 1087 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 4: for most of each week when the foot's on. 1088 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: And I know you're a footy man. I know you're 1089 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: a Cats man. 1090 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 3: I know we had too long, the greatest team. 1091 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: I've seen you do one of the carols at half 1092 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: the crowd booze and I'm like, this guy is game? Okay, quickly, 1093 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: what's next? I know you've got an album coming out 1094 00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: in April. 1095 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 4: The album's coming out in April through Sony Music, A 1096 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 4: chance meeting in a lyft Really we're on the Sunshine Coast. 1097 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 4: A whole lot of things that happened, I said to 1098 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 4: my wife and ed on the way into Maruci door. 1099 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 4: I said, look, been a whole lot of bizarre things happening. 1100 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 4: That makes me feel like it's time to do another 1101 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 4: record now. We weren't supposed to be there in January. 1102 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 4: We were supposed to be there last September and we 1103 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 4: had an illness in the family couldn't go. So here 1104 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,479 Speaker 4: we are at the time. We weren't supposed to be there. 1105 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 4: I booked at the hotel, walking to the lift, and 1106 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 4: the fellow in the lift says, Dennis, how are you? 1107 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 4: I thought, right, he said, Dennis Handlin. Ah, he's the 1108 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 4: boss of Sony Music. 1109 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. 1110 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 4: So within ground floor to third he said, why aren't 1111 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 4: we recording you? 1112 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 3: I said, I don't know. 1113 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 4: He said it will happen, And I didn't have long 1114 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 4: enough to think, well, is that just lift talk or 1115 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 4: if he's a lovely man of un him forever hadn't 1116 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 4: seen him for twenty five years, And within forty minutes 1117 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 4: he had two of their executives. 1118 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 3: Ring me, I love this, and. 1119 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 4: Then I've started recording the album. It's become five tracks 1120 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 4: of collaborations. Brian Kad, John Paul Young Vicker and Linda 1121 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 4: Marusha and we're doing a John English track, and because 1122 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 4: John's obviously no longer with us, his son's going to 1123 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 4: play the guitar guitar solos on it. So that's all 1124 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 4: happened this year that's coming out. It's like sixties and 1125 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 4: seventies songs, feel good. It's exactly what I used to 1126 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 4: do before I got known as this became known as 1127 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 4: this big belladeer thing. 1128 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 3: It's the music I. 1129 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 2: Used to do awesome. 1130 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 4: And then this idea for the Christmas single comes out 1131 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 4: about seven weeks ago when it was released on the 1132 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 4: sixth of November. That same day of the release, Carol's 1133 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 4: rang me Kate Carol Halliday rang me and said, we 1134 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 4: want you to do your new duet. 1135 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 3: That was a day of the release. 1136 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 4: These things are bizarre and I don't believe in fate, 1137 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 4: at least I didn't. 1138 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 2: Oh, I think you got to do now. 1139 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to, especially with creative things like this 1140 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: is the there's a business side to what you do, 1141 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: but there's also a creative and kind of like heart 1142 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: driven side, and that that you got to trust. 1143 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 3: Well, yes, this is like it's meant to be. 1144 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: Well, I cannot wait, and I can tell everybody listening 1145 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: the Christmas single is officially out. Now I'm going to 1146 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 1: put in the show notes so people can just click 1147 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: and listen. 1148 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1149 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 4: It's a real win music Forever dot com dot are you, 1150 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,280 Speaker 4: And there's a few bonus Christmas tracks. Oh and money 1151 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 4: going to Salvation Army Christmas. 1152 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 3: Really. 1153 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'll make sure that that's the right link 1154 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: that goes in. Dennis Walter, you are an incredible human 1155 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: being and you have totally filled up my cup today. 1156 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: You've really inspired me to live without regret, to work hard, 1157 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: and to make my dreams of reality. So thank you 1158 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,439 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart. 1159 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 3: Thank you, honored my friend me too. 1160 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1161 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 1162 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:15,439 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. This potty my word 1163 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. 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