1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Pleased to say that Ben Hosking, the COLP candidate for 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Fanny Bay, joins me in the studio this morning. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Ben, Good morning Katie. Thanks for 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: having me really appreciate it. 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. Now, Ben, let's not beat 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: around the bush. What suburb do you live in? 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: I live in Driver, Katie. 8 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 3: But I think one of these things that keeps coming 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: up about this is obviously where are we from? 10 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: And both from Parmesan. But look, I was born in Darwin. 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: The first house I ever went back to was in 12 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: lud Miller in Well Street, which is where I grew up. 13 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: I went to school in perap and I can specifically 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: remember riding my BMX with my folks up to the 15 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: Parrat Pool and getting squashed in that red water slide 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: a number of times by bigger kids as I was 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: growing up in that area. So sure, I mean, you know, 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: a lot of us move around as we grow up 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: and we go to different places. 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to join the police, the NT Police. 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: I volunteered and went to Tenant Creek straight away. And 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: with that as a career, you're obviously moved around with 23 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: where you're getting stationed and I ended up coming back 24 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: to Darwin in two thousand and nine and were stationed 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: in Palmston, so that's where I ended up living. 26 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: So now, do you have a business in the electorate, 27 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: because yesterday we're getting messages from different listeners, some saying 28 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: that you did, some saying that you didn't. 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can see what that'd be confusing. I've 30 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: actually got two businesses that are quite mobile. I do 31 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: contract property maintenance and then my wife and I own 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: a mobile event business as well. So yeah, we do 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: do work in the electorate. That's absolutely a big part 34 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: of what we're doing. I was actually at Hudson Fish 35 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: this morning with a job, so yeah, we do obviously, 36 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: but we also move around with wherever the events and 37 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: the work is. 38 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: For me, now, why have you decided to put your 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: hand up for an electorate which you don't live in. 40 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: I think goes back to where I'm from. I mean, 41 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: I've got deep connections to that electorate, to that area. 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: I grew up in that part of Darwen my entire life. 43 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't until I joined the police that I actually left. 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: And for me, you know, obviously I'm passionate about politics. 45 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: I've been involved with the CLP since twenty fifteen. You know, 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: I've lived here since I was born in nine and 47 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: eighty six. You know, like I care deeply about Darwin, 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: I care deeply about trying to solve the problems that 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: we're facing now. 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: Look, obviously, the concern here is going to be that 51 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: neither you or Labour's candidate live in the electorate. As 52 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I've pointed out, and I said it during the Daily 53 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: by election, how can you sort of run or how 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: can people run in that electorate. I know that you've 55 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: said that you've grown up there, but if you don't 56 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: live there and you don't actually understand some of those 57 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: issues that are happening on the ground each and every day. 58 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: Great question. 59 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the easiest way to understand that 60 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: if you don't live there is the door knock. So 61 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: before we even had our own candidates and answer for 62 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: the CLP, i'd already drawknocked large portions of lud Miller 63 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: and Fanny Bay. 64 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: What it is is about understanding what people need to say, 65 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: need to get off their chest. 66 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: It's daw knocking is not about getting around telling everyone 67 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: what you're going to do to fix it. Dorn knocking 68 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: is getting around speaking to people and finding out what 69 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: the problems are. 70 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: It's listening, dawn knocking is listening. 71 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: So to those out there listening who do live in 72 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: the electorate, who were thinking, well, all right, we've got 73 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: this blowke, he seems pretty nice, you know from the 74 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Labor Party seems pretty nice as well, but neither of 75 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: them live in the electorate. Are you prepared to move there? 76 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 77 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, like I said, as where I grew up, 78 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: I'd love to be there. I ended up in Parmeston 79 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: because that's where the police put me, that was police housing. 80 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: We ended up starting a few businesses out there, which 81 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: got me originally got me into politics because of what 82 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: I was seeing happen. 83 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: That is absolutely on the cards. My wife's already looking 84 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: at where that might be. 85 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: I am not the Minister for War and Finance in 86 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: our household, so I wouldn't dare to tell her where 87 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: she would like to live. I would just say if 88 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: we could live in this region, this haud be the 89 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 3: space that I'd like to go. 90 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: All right, well, it's going to be interesting. It's certainly 91 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting race. I think this by 92 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: election for Fanny Bay. What do you see as being 93 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: the biggest concerns in the electorate. 94 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: I can tell you it's straight away. One of the 95 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: biggest ones that's come up has been the solar rebate. 96 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: Right. 97 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: That cut to the solar rebate to homeowners has hurt 98 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: people's back pockets. This is a by election about the 99 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: cost of living. We've seen skyrocketing fuel prices. I mean 100 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: just a fuel of your car up is now double 101 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: the price at war only a few months ago, and 102 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: there's been nothing done about it. It's crickets out there 103 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: and that's terrifying. As a person that runs to two 104 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: small businesses, the cost of fuel really affects us because 105 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: both of those businesses and mobile and I'm sure everyone 106 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: that drives to and from work, or takes their kids 107 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: to sport in the afternoon, or has got some sort 108 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: of social activity out at Morara that they've got to 109 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: get to is feeling that hit in the back pocket. 110 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: So getting around speaking to people, they want their rebate 111 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: back on their soul that they installed. You know, it 112 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: was the government of the day. Now that's taken that 113 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: away from them, taking it down to the less than 114 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: half of what. 115 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: It used to be. 116 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: But the CLP is not going to reverse that, are they. 117 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: Now we've come out and said that the rebate will 118 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: be reinstated, as well as looking at doubling that grant 119 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: for the soul of battery, so taking it from six 120 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: to twelve thousand dollars. That's a huge incentive to take 121 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: the demand off the grid. 122 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Now, one of the. 123 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: Other issues that is obviously a big concern for people 124 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: that are in the electorate. I think it's a big 125 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: concern for everybody around the territory at the moment is 126 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: crime and anti social behavior. Now, I understand you were 127 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: at the former Chief Minister, Michael Gunner's officer or outside 128 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: there yesterday filming something. 129 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: What was that all about? Yeah, look, that was really sad. 130 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: I also, as a business owner, have experienced exactly what 131 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: Michael Gunner has experienced with people breaking in and smashing 132 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: up your business, and not just once, but a number 133 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: of times. And what I was trying to highlight there 134 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: is that it's just absolutely tragic that people in the 135 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: Northern Territory aren't safe and what happened to mister Gunner's 136 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: office yesterday is a crime. It's an absolute crime, and 137 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: it's whether it's done by a fixated person or a 138 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: person affected by a substance. 139 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 140 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: Any offender from my policing background is motivated by an 141 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: issue of some type to carry. 142 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 2: Out a crime. 143 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: And what I was trying to highlight there is it 144 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: doesn't matter who you are, you should feel safe, you 145 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: should be protected. And it's tragic. This is the guy 146 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: that was the most respected politician in Northern Territory as 147 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: the Chief minute stuff and he's no longer and this 148 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: is how he's being treated in his own community by 149 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: his own electorate. 150 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: That's really sad. 151 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: Now. 152 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people again listening this morning, 153 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you're going to be thinking to themselves, well, he's had 154 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: to deal with something that we've been dealing with on 155 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: a daily basis. You know, a lot of Territorians grappling 156 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: with break ins, grappling with anti social behavior, grappling with 157 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: public drunkenness. And what's happened there at the former Chief 158 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Minister's office obviously unacceptable, but so is a lot of 159 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: the crime that's going on in the community. What will you, 160 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: if elected, do differently to other parties or to what's 161 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: happening now? What would you like to see done differently 162 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: to try and deal with that issue. 163 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: Look to seal p, I've got a fairly strong platform 164 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: in relation to dealing with any social behavior, looking at 165 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: bringing back in the two kilometer lock a licensing legislation. 166 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: To stop any social behavior. 167 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: It'd be advocating for and trying to re empower the 168 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: police to be able to do their jobs. 169 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: Getting do you feel as though they can at the moment. 170 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: The police, they're always able to do their jobs. 171 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: In fact, I want to take my hat off to 172 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: the police in being able to respond to and deal 173 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: with that crime as they as they did so successfully, 174 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: especially with the resources that they're trying to deal with 175 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: in cope with and sadly the morale like, yeah, I 176 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: was a police officer. I was a well regarded police officer. 177 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: I did some pretty good work in different sections. And 178 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: I still have a lot of mates that are cops 179 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: and they're not happy. They're not happy with the way 180 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: they've been treated. And I mean, look at all you 181 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 3: have to do is look at what's happening this morning 182 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: with the Labor Party trying to vilify me for standing 183 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: at the front of Michael Gunner's office. It's not about 184 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: me trying to point score there. It's legitimately identifying that 185 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: we're just not safe in the territory because of what's 186 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: been happening. 187 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: As a society. 188 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: There's a societal problem that has taken place, and it's 189 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: taken time for that to happen, and it's under the 190 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: watch of the government that we've got right now. 191 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, were you trying to gain some political mileage 192 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: though standing outside Michael Gunner's office, you know, after it's 193 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: been smashed up. 194 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: I know, JP and I we took two photos and 195 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: it was literally just me gesturing to how sad the 196 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: damage was. 197 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: All right? Then, just to finish off this morning, if elected, 198 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: what are your priorities going to be for the Electric? 199 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Look, A big part of it is re engaging with 200 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: the Electric. 201 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been out there speaking to people and 202 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 3: what they want is a local member that is there 203 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: and a part of it, they want someone that's getting 204 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: around speaking to them and actually taking the time to 205 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: listen to what their concerns are. You know, whether that's 206 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: any social behavior through lud Miller because people are dealing 207 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: with being assaulted in the parks as they're riding home, 208 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: or whether or not it's people that aren't feeling the 209 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: love from the government because they've actually gone out and 210 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: invested their own money in trying to keep the climate clean. 211 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: It's getting out there and listening to what they want 212 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: to say. Or even how about the Lea Point situation, 213 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 3: You've got an entice way that the community or a 214 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: section of the community that are furious that there's been 215 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: a lack of community consultation and involvement and listening to 216 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: what their problems are. And I mean, it was really 217 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: interesting to hear you say that there's Greens of announced 218 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: to candidate. I want to know what are the Greens 219 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: going to do in regards to their alliance with Labor 220 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: over Lee Point? 221 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: Are they going to back Labor in on that? 222 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of people in this electric that 223 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: have raised it with me already and there's been no 224 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: community consultation from the people that I'm speaking to. They 225 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: feel like the government's just walked all over them. 226 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Well, Ben Hosking, we are going to have to leave 227 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: it there. As I said, we are certainly going to 228 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: be catching up with all of the candidates that are 229 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: putting their hands up for the seat of Fanny Bay. 230 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: But we appreciate you being the first one on tab 231 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: A Chat with us and appreciate your time this morning. 232 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, and thanks very much for listening. 233 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Thank you