1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: We have a super special guest on the show right now. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, if you didn't watch it on stand last week, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: you seriously missed out. But RuPaul's drag Race down Under 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: wrapped up, which means we have a victor. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: Tell me who is it? 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: We're doing by kidder Man right now, one with a 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: lip sync of this number, a bit of Olivia Newton 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: John to finish things up on Friday, totally wild. What 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: a song, Kedy, What a performance in the safe in 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: the top three for the duration of the show, Like 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: how you feeling? 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 4: Congratulations? 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you so much. It's such wow. 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 5: What a wild riot it has been in the last 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 5: couple of days after the announcement on Saturday. 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: It's just it's so hard to process. 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 5: But I've just been doing uh the last couple They've 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 5: just been chatting to the most amazing people that have 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 5: just been like sharing me with love and congratulations. And 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 5: it's slowly starting to sink in that like I'm the winner. 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm the one that has to like represent 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 5: down Under now, so I'm just ready to. 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: Hit it hard. 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: I love that we are being represented by someone called 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: uh and can you can you give us the backstory there, 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: kemene as to how the name came about. 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 5: I'll give you the backstory if you give me a backstory. 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 5: I yeah, so I adopted a cat when I was 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 5: twenty one from the SPCA, which is like the Society 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 5: for the Protection of Cure of Animals. 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: We've got here as well. 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Actually, funnily enough, we tend to SCA in Australia as well, 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: pretty much the r s p c A. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're not totally devoidable. 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: More different. 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, like in different parts of the world they kind 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 5: of called different things, like they've got different litter litter. 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: I know that you Kiwis are high and mighty about 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: the protection of animals, though in Australians we are, I mean, like, 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: to be honest, I'm pretty sure we're trying. 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: To wipe off the great barrier y for the moment, 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: so it's fair enough. But yeah, it's not. 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: It is, but we are New Zealand des are very 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: high and mighty. You are correct? 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: You are? 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: You are so sorry? 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Is it like? Oh who did. 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: You are? 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: So? 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: What does a cat have to do with your name? Kemine? 53 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: My mind is boggling. 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was ironic. 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 5: They use like kiddamine as a vet drug, so I 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 5: thought it'd be ironic if I called my cat kidd mee. 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: And then I needed a drag name and I didn't 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: have one, so I just stole her name. 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm literally named after my own. 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 5: Pussy, very very very good stuff, and she is now 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 5: a very old pussy and she does molt. 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what you're talking about now, but we'll 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: move on. 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: Hey, kidding, got some very I've got some very under 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: understanding friends. They come over even if they stay the night, 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 5: they're not too bothered if they wake up with a 67 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: little bit of fear in the teeth. 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: You walk like to sleep on my pillows. 69 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, of course, now, kidd. 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: So the judges on the show that all the guests, 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: I should say, included the Minogue sisters, Joyce Vaughn, the 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: Veronica's Olivia Newton John what was like throughout the show? 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: On Stan? What was in your memory now? 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: And just honestly, off the top of they had the 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: most potent memory for you that was kind of like 76 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: a bit of a pinch yourself. Wow, this is the 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: person that I'm currently interacting with moment, uh do you know? 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: Funnily enough, I really I really love the fact that 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 5: they had Al's karat on there, who was one of 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 5: who's a transgender actor rhyme from Altiora that had just 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 5: started in. 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: Which is like another key we filmed. So like that 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: was the most. 84 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 5: Special thing because it was like really cool like representation 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 5: on RuPaul's Drag Race, and I felt like I already 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: felt like so cool that like Australia and New Zealand 87 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 5: was doing RuPaul's Drag Race and then we were still 88 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 5: kind of just like driving home. It's like representation and 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: like showcasing like a side of like Australia and New 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 5: Zealand that also doesn't really get to get showcased to 91 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: the world, which is like a really colorful rainbow community. 92 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: You know. 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's really great to hear. 94 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: I mean that's what RuPaul's is famous for, obviously, is 95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: shining a light on this community which you know so 96 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: often is repressed and you know in you know, specific 97 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: bars and places that you have to go and seek 98 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: it out. It kind of like puts it right in 99 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: front and center. I mean, it would stand on primetime 100 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: over here. So obviously all of a sudden it becomes 101 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: this thing that's a talking point in it amongst people 102 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: that wouldn't normally talk about it. So it's brilliant to 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: hear from yours. 104 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: I stop rubbing it in my face. 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 106 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: So the other fascinating thing is, so you've won thirty 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: thousand dollars cash. 108 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy a U D too. So you know 109 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: that's where the couple of extra. 110 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: Is there? Is there any of the thirty k left Kitter? 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: No, I spinned it all on my where at the bar? 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: Exactly the same thing. 113 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: Now. 114 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: The other first, same thing about you for people that 115 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: didn't see the show, is it used to weigh one 116 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty kilos in now ways sixty five kilos. 117 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, no, no, I now weigh like eighty kilos. 118 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So but there wasn't there was Sorry you 119 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: lost sixty five kilos, I should say so. 120 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: So so yeah, I've lost like just under eighty kilos. 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: Wow, Jesus Christ. What was that journey? Like Kitter? 122 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: It's been Oh, there's been like hips of ups and downs. 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 5: I mean, like the journey like from doing the weight 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: loss has been like amazing. The journey to getting to 125 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty kilos was not so. 126 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: Amazing and living that life. 127 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 5: But you know, life's full of ups and downs, and 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: I don't I try not to kind of super dwell 129 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 5: on the negatives and you know if I if I did, 130 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 5: I could never have survived it to this day. 131 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: So point yeah, but you know, like I got through it. 132 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: And that's the coolest thing is like, no matter how 133 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 5: crappy something is, like if you if you persevere, you 134 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: will get through it. And everything's everything's so much more 135 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 5: chilling hindsight, it always is. 136 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: That's so true. 137 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, Kater, the difference between when you 138 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: were the one hundred and sixty kilos to now you're 139 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, seventy five eighty kilos. What's the difference with 140 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: the just the attention you get in the street or 141 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the way that people interact with you or tree. Have 142 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: you noticed a difference between the two? 143 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 144 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Do you know what's funny? It's really interesting on things 145 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: like dating apps, and there's like people that don't realize 146 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: they've spoken to me in the past or maybe have 147 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: even been rude to me in the past, and then 148 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: like and then they're like trying to head on me 149 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh. 150 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: You're not getting this fit rig Yeah. 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, but one of the best parts about weight losses, 152 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 5: all of the exquisite positions I can now. 153 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: Achieve that was the motivation. That was the motivation. 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. 155 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, oll make congratulations in all sorts of ways for 156 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: the weight laws, for the cash, for winning the competition, 157 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: but also for being as happy in yourself as you 158 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: so clearly are. I think maybe that's not because I 159 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: know that you co own a couple of drag venues 160 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: in Auckland with another contestant from the show, Anita Wiggle. 161 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: So obviously this is something that you live, that you breathe, 162 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: that is you in so many ways. 163 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: So maybe for people that are listening right now, it'd 164 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: be nice to from you. What would you say to 165 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: people who are sort of feeling uncomfortable about embodying this 166 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: life which is so clearly, so clearly nourishing for you 167 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: and in a way that they can live. 168 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. 169 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: It's hard to give advice because it's really I don't 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 5: know if I would have listened to it until I 171 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 5: kind of got to the point of my life where 172 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: I was ready to do it. But I lived a 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 5: life of like being in the closet for like my 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: early twenties and definitely all my teenage years, and I 175 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: kind of thought that I'd always sort of like sweep 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 5: it under the rag and like I would never really 177 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 5: address it. But one thing that I have learned and 178 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 5: I continue to kind of like like solidify in my brain, 179 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 5: is like living living authentically is the most freeing thing. 180 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 5: And so much of the negative in my life was 181 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 5: actually like my doing, because when you're not allowing yourself 182 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: to be free, you start kind of like putting blockages 183 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: in every single part of your life. But as soon 184 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: as I found that courage to kind of or have 185 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 5: found that avenue that I was able to live authentically 186 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: and act authentically and communicate authentically, and everything just started 187 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 5: being so much more real, which just opened up everything 188 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 5: in my life, and then all the good stuff started happening. 189 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 5: So it's not a coincidence, you know it, Truly, all 190 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 5: the good happens when you can be good to yourself, 191 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 5: and good and good to your heart and good to 192 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 5: your your spirit and and living living a life for 193 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 5: somebody else because you're worried about what somebody else is 194 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: going to say about you or the way someone else 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 5: is going to treat you. 196 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: That's not doing your self justice. 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 5: So you have to be selfish in that in that 198 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 5: sense and and say, hey, look like I am going 199 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: to be the happiest and the most free if I 200 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 5: live authentically and and then all the good comes from them. 201 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: Your a legend, Kater, thank you for Thank you so 202 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: much for joining us, and congratulations. 203 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 204 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: It's been an absolute treat. 205 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 2: Kata is going to be touring in September around Australia 206 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: and New Zealand with the rest of the Queens from 207 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: RuPaul's Drag Race down Under. Such a pleasure to meet 208 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: your mate and all the best. Hopefully you over here soon. 209 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 5: Thank you boys, Drive safely everybody. 210 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: Thanks right loving to meet you. Hear more of your 211 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: boys on the Pull Show podcast. 212 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 5: You know you want to