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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: wants answers. Now. It can be really, really tricky at

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Speaker 2: times to juggle family life because there are so many

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Speaker 2: help our extended family in different ways. And now here's

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Speaker 2: the stars of our show, my mum and dad.

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Speaker 1: I love Fridays.

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Speaker 3: I just feel so good when we get to get

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Speaker 3: to the end of the week and we know the

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Speaker 3: weekends just around the corner, and we still haven't made

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Speaker 3: any progress on the camping conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I really want to go this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Is that because you're getting a dopamine here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, dopamine's patient. You listen really closely to yesterday's podcast.

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Speaker 3: In you I'm anticipating and I'm with you. So we're

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Speaker 3: bonding and we're going to talk about how we want

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Speaker 3: to do better tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We're getting some oxytocin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all on neurochemicals. Follow the neurochemicals. That's how

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Speaker 3: you find the happiness. By the way, we should say,

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Speaker 3: I'm doctor Justin Coilson. I'm the author of six books

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Speaker 3: about making families happier.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Kylie, sometimes known as missus Happy Families. Though

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Speaker 2: I'm not happy all the time. I have to say that.

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Speaker 3: Today you're doing well, but it's early and I'm the

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Speaker 3: mom to our six kids. Today we're talking I'll do

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Speaker 3: better tomorrow. For those of you who are new to

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Speaker 3: the podcast, every Friday we kind of do a review

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Speaker 3: on our week. We look back at what we did well,

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Speaker 1: Kylie, do you want to go first today?

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Speaker 2: Why not? I'm going to give us a bit of

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Speaker 2: a different viewpoint today. We talk a lot about I

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Speaker 2: guess our role as parents, but today I thought maybe

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Speaker 2: I might highlight the role of me being daughter.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're going to talk about your parents? I am

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Speaker 2: So we've had a conversation recently just about this idea

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Speaker 2: of we're in a position that we never thought we'd

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Speaker 2: and so we kind of sandwiched between our own children

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Speaker 3: And listen, Natasha, if you're listening, you're not as exhausting

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Speaker 1: Might be tiring Kylie out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So my mom and dad have just recently brought a

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Speaker 3: And can I just highlight for the last twenty years,

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Speaker 3: this business that's called Happy Families, and just recently we've

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Speaker 3: I had such a great time. And the whole time

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Speaker 3: Maybe when I stopped at the bakery on the way home,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, all that relaxation.

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Speaker 1: But isn't it great that you're able to do that.

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Speaker 3: Up next, I'm going to tell you what I learned

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Speaker 3: about how to do things better tomorrow and it is

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Speaker 3: a really big conversation.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to share it.

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Speaker 2: It's the Happy Family's podcast, The podcast for the time

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Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers now and today we

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Speaker 2: are talking about our reflections on our journey as parents

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Speaker 3: Now, before I dive into my story, I need to

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Speaker 3: highlight that my story does contain some mature themes. While

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Speaker 2: I know we were headed with this one.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm in the car, so this is just after

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Speaker 3: last week's I'll do better tomorrow. I'm in the car

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Speaker 3: with our seventeen year old and out of nowhere, she says, Hey, dad,

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Speaker 3: Terms of our take home message, number one, it's hard

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