1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: This bonus episode is all around the theme of finished Differently. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Jacob's Creek double barrel is finished in aged whiskey barrels, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: giving him a smoother, deeper, and richer taste. Try it 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: now for thirty percent off with free shipping. Search Jacob's 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Creek Podcast. Now, let's get started. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: for millennials who want financial freedom. Now, this is a 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: bonus episode with the theme of finish Differently, and as 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: you can already tell, it sounds a little bit different 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: right to talk. My name's Ryan, I'm a producer for 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. Victoria. Welcome to your own podcast. 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Ryan John. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: Now, do you want to explain why this is a 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 3: little bit different? 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: This is a little bit different. First things first, we 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: don't have my sassy sidekick, Georgia King joining us. Second, 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: we've got Ryan John, who is our producer here at 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: She's on the Money. And the reason that we are 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: both here is because we have a shared love of 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: red wine, don't we, Ryan John? 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess that's not fair to Georgia because 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: it implies that she also doesn't have a. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Strong I can tell you right now that Georgia King 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: does love a good glass of charas. 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: But we're here thanks to Jacob's Creek, and they want 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: us to do a bonus episode which is all about 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: finished differently, and I think you would have seen, well, 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: you saw Victoria. But we put a post in the 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: Facebook group that said, do you have a career that 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: finished differently? Do you have a life that finished differently? 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: And I was hoping we might be able to get 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: one or two people to comment so we could make 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: this bonus episode. Do you know how many we got. 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: I think we got a couple of hundred. There were 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: so many people who had replied on all different social 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: media channels, and it was so exciting because I didn't 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: tell you guys what this was for. But now we 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: are telling you and are sharing it with you because 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: we are actually so excited to be here drinking a 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: glass of bread while we record a podcast. 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: I'll put it on the Instagram stories when she's on 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: the money. But you can also see Victoria knocking over 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: a glass in the podcast hand that. 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Was absolutely before we started recording. That didn't need to 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: come up Ryan John. 47 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: Well, you can check it out. It's on Instagram. But 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: we've got people from all around the world, so I've 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: been on zoom chatting to all the people and the 50 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: shoes on the money community you have. Sorry if I've 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: DMed you and it looked weird and you're like, who 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: is this guy? I'm sorry, But first, can we start 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: with you, our fearless lead of Victoria. 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Victoria Devine. 55 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: When I first met you late last year, I was 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: surprised to find out that you studied multiple psychology degrees. Ideas, 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: I think, is it fair that everyone assumes that you 58 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: studied finance you always wanted to do finance. 59 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that is this massive misconception. And when 60 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to you about this podcast and being 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: able to create a bonus episode, which we love the 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: idea of, I said to you, like, let's talk about 63 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: our own journeys because they are so different and I 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: feel like we have we're not even finished yet, but 65 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: we've been finishing our careers friendly. So I started off 66 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: in psychology, thinking that I would be an organizational psychologist, 67 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: started working in the field, and then somehow fell in 68 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: love with financial advice and here we are now. 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: It seems normal now that we've heard the podcast and 70 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: we know about you, that you just fell in love 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: with financial advice. 72 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: But I think everyone can tell, but the sentence and 73 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: then I. 74 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: Just fell in love with financial advice seems ridiculous. 75 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: It seems a little bit flippant. 76 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: But how does someone just fall in love with that? 77 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I think it was It's very me, if that makes 78 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: any sense, But financial advice for me just made sense. 79 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it. I was working 80 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: in psychology because I loved having an impact, like I've 81 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: always loved changing people's journeys and changing the way that 82 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: people finish. And I feel like when I realized the 83 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: impact that financial literacy and financial advice could have on people, 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: and that there was this massive misconception that financial education 85 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: was financial advice, I started researching it more and wanting 86 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: to be more involved in it, more personally so that 87 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I could grow. And then the more I learned, the 88 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: more I felt like I wanted to share. So it 89 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: just made sense for me while I was, you know, 90 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: still working in psychology, to integrate that into what I 91 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: was doing and start learning more, and it just felt 92 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: like the right step For me, I've always been someone 93 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: who kind of just followed what felt right as opposed 94 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: to following what feels like the next logical step. So 95 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: for me, it felt like an easy decision. But looking 96 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: back on it, there were so many hard things that 97 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: I had to you know, go through and change about 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: my career and about my job. It was really hard. 99 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't easy to say, Okay, well, I'm so 100 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: glad I did six and a half years of study 101 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: in psychology to put I guess, hang my boots up 102 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: and then go straight into doing a business degree and 103 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, learning about finance and actually doing a diploma 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: of what is it, an Advanced Diploma of Financial plan 105 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I feel like it was the right step for me, 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: but I know that I'm not the only one who 107 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: has done something like that. Ryan John, you start, No, 108 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm not done. 109 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: I'm not done talking about you yet. We'll get to me. 110 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: What do you thinkt what do you think is a 111 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: bigger jumb going from psychology to finance or even though 112 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: you're still going to be doing finance, from finance to 113 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: podcast host slash social media. 114 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: Maven, excuse me, that is absolutely not what I am. 115 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, though, I feel like 116 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: it was a logical step, and I think that you 117 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: only ever realize how far you've come when you look back. 118 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: I never put a plan in place. I'm not someone 119 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: who said, Okay, well, in twelve months time, this is 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: the job I would like to have. Have kind of 121 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: always just gone with the flow. Albeit I am clash organized. 122 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I've always just, you know, she is 123 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: organized chaos. 124 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Cleaning schedule done. There's a YouTube video coming out, thank you. 125 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: But I feel like it was something that was organized 126 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: chaos and it kind of just flowed where it needed 127 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: to flow, and for me, it just made a lot 128 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: of sense. And reading through our Facebook comments the community's 129 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: response to this, I feel like it's such an important 130 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: topic that we talk about because we're in this situation 131 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: where so many people get three or four years into 132 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: a career and realize it's not their dream career. And 133 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I think that we also need to be giving people 134 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of permission to say, it's actually okay 135 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: to change your mind. It is okay to change your trajectory, 136 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: it is okay to not want to do something that 137 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: you were super passionate about this time five years ago, 138 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: and I think that it's really nice to be in 139 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: a position where we can have this conversation because you 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: and I Ryan are both in that situation where we 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: are finishing completely differently than we actually. 142 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: Thought it was starting to finished differently. 143 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely it is now. Ryan. It is no coincidence that 144 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I have invited you on this bonus episode of She's 145 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: on the Money. Do you know why I've invited you on? 146 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: Because my career, I don't know how it's going to finish, 147 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: but it's definitely a lot different to how it started. 148 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think that you know, we've all been 149 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: through different journeys, and yours has been a really interesting one. 150 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: So could you tell me or everybody listening a little 151 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: bit about your journey and where you started, but also 152 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: where are you now? 153 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: So She's how I feel like I've had six different lives. 154 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm not even that old. 155 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Oh you look at it, no. 156 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: One today and you get an old, sassy alive and 157 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: an accounting degree, an honors degree in finance. And I 158 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: worked for NAB and Picture Partners, wore a suit every 159 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: day and was clean shaven. And for those who've seen 160 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: me or no. 161 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, I cannot imagine it. 162 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so many people said they're like, what, You're clean 163 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: shaven and wore like nice clothes. No, what happened to you? 164 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, I go a little bit bored of that, 165 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: and then went into radio. And I always figured that 166 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: I would do radio for a little bit and then 167 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: eventually go back. But at least I tried and you know, 168 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: had some fun and didn't have any regrets. And I 169 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: still haven't gone back. So then I did commercial radio, 170 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: which was weird because one of the people I interviewed 171 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: for The Money Diary the other day, I called them 172 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: up and said, hey, it's Ryan here. She goes on 173 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: from Cambra goes Oh cool, I used to live there, 174 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: she goes. I know, I used to listen to you 175 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: every day. So I worked at Canberra, Perth, a few 176 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: different cities, and then commercial radio. I kind of got 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: over it like the rest of the world did, and 178 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: low key dig and then I thought social media and 179 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: podcasting and people doing cool stuff where it's at. And 180 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: then we sort of met on a whim, I guess 181 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: we met. 182 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: We met when I was interviewed on your TV show. 183 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: That's right. I interviewed you, and I thought she was great. 184 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: You're an accountant that ended up with his own TV show. 185 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: I love it. 186 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: And then we started chatting after that and now we 187 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: work together. 188 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: Yes, we do. You are now our producer and we 189 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: do a lot of content together, which is very exciting. 190 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: Depending on the conversation of all the day, we go 191 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: from your my boss, to business partner to life psychiatrists. 192 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Two friends that I believe via text message. 193 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, been a lot. It's been a lot, 194 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: but thanks for having me on this episode. And she's 195 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: on the Money building in general. 196 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Yes, you are so welcome and I'm so excited that 197 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: you're here. 198 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: So, speaking of like all the people that you've had 199 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: influence on v do you think it's strange that you 200 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: have people in your Facebook group from all around the world. 201 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of strange, but in the best 202 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: of ways. 203 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: Right. Well, let's go to our first person that I 204 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: spoke to this week. Her name is Metti and she 205 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: was originally from Finland. Apparently big sues on the Money 206 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: following in Finland. 207 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, No, I didn't. How cool is that? 208 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? So she lives in Australia now, but she grew 209 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: up a few hours out of Helsinki, and she was 210 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: always going to be a doctor and now I have 211 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: a listened to what she does now. 212 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: So I was born in Finland and I was a 213 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: bit of a gig at school when I was younger. 214 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: So my parents were hoping I'm going to be something 215 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: like a doctor or a lawyer, and my dad said 216 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 4: I'm going to be like a bank owner because I 217 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 4: was good at maths and I was like hello. Then 218 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: I decided to study photography because my teacher she was 219 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: very much like, you're creative, you really need to push 220 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: that forward. And yeah, I studied photography. I was working 221 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: for this huge. 222 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: Studio in Finland. 223 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: I was working pretty much twenty four seven and I 224 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: got a bit of a burnout and I was like, 225 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: screw this, I'm gonna move somewhere. 226 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: Very far away. And I chow was Australia. 227 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 228 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: And now I work for outdoor beauty here in Melbourne, 229 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: and yeah, it's just been amazing ever since. Started three businesses, 230 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: two with my partner and one for my own and that's. 231 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: It pretty much. 232 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: So Meddi was really humble, just casually mentioning it at 233 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: the end. Oh, by the way, I. 234 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: Own three businesses. Yeah, cool story, that is incredible. 235 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. She also worked on the Adore Beauty podcast and 236 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: apparently Joe and Hannah are big fans of this show, 237 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: so shout out to them. 238 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hello. 239 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: But something that I thought was interesting she said one 240 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: of her favorite teachers was an art teacher and really 241 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: encouraged her. And then I thought, one of my favorite 242 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: teachers when I was in high school was my economics teacher. 243 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: And then I went and like studied it. Do you 244 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: think there'd be like a correlation between people's favorite teacher 245 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: and what they want to go and stay? Is that 246 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: a thing? 247 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Or I think no, I think it is absolutely logical. 248 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: But I feel like people genuinely base career choices based 249 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: on like an experience. Like I know so many doctors 250 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: who are like, oh, I, you know, grew up and 251 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: had a friend in hospital or a parent in hospital, 252 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: loved the doctors and felt like I would be a 253 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: really good person to do that job. Or me. I 254 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: remember being really confused halfway through my psychology degree and 255 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. I realized that maybe 256 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do counseling psychology and wanted to 257 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: explore different areas, and I was introduced to a mentor. 258 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: Her name was Jessica, Jessica if you are listening, and 259 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: I adored her. I thought she was so beautiful and 260 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: her job was incredible, and it sounded so influential and 261 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: she was so smart. And I know that that was 262 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: something that really guided me towards wanting to be in 263 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: organizational psychology because I saw the impact that she was having. 264 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: So I know that it didn't just come to me. 265 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: And I've had so many mentors that I've followed down 266 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: a different track at some point, and I feel that, yeah, 267 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: you base choices on experiences that you can see. 268 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: You talk a lot about mentors that use someone's mentor now, 269 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: like at the titles turned. 270 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: I am. I actually mentor for three different organizations, which 271 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: is kind of. 272 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: Fun organizations or for a person. 273 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: No, like, I mentor for people through these organizations. So 274 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: the first is fitted for work, and that is women 275 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: experiencing disadvantage and you know, meet up with a mentee 276 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: and you know, help them along their journey, depending on 277 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: what that journey is. And they've been so wildly different. 278 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: And then I have been working with Bacon, which is 279 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: an online mentoring program for girls in schools. 280 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: You the most popular one. 281 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, don't be silly, but I 282 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: talk a lot to them about my experience with psychology 283 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: and university. But it's all about online mentoring with girls 284 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: in schools who don't have access to the usually rural, 285 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: so they don't have access to being in a position 286 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: where they actually experience people who have gotten to university. 287 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: So it's more about inspiring them to think a bit 288 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: bigger than often their rural communities, which I absolutely love 289 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: because I feel like they're so inquisitive and they have 290 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: so many genuine questions, and they're usually some of the 291 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: most authentic people I've ever met, And yeah, I love that. 292 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: At the risk of offending every single person in lawn Seston. 293 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yes, is it fair to. 294 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: Say you growing up in lawn Seston might have been 295 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: similar that you wouldn't have seen these people who were 296 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: bosses and killing it and went to UNI because it's 297 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: sort of a smaller regional Tazmanian town. 298 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: I moved over from Tasmania when I was a little 299 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: bit younger, so I ended up doing high school in Victoria. 300 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: But I feel like I have always been pushed by 301 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: my parents to just be what I want to be, Like, 302 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: nothing's ever been off limits. If you want to do it, 303 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: you can do it. My mum has been someone that 304 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: has always supported me through everything I wanted to do. 305 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: When I was in high school saying I want to 306 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: be a surgeon, she was right behind me saying, yep, 307 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: no problems. When I wanted to do text I was 308 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: in year twelve, even though that's a terrible idea because I. 309 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: Was trying to get styles. 310 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to do textiles in like that make 311 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: dresses that I know, I. 312 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: Can imagine you're wearing lots of dresses, but making. 313 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: No, I wanted to make dresses. And she was like, yep, 314 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: right behind you. And she's always kind of had my back. 315 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: So I feel like I've been very lucky in that 316 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I've always had a mentoring kind of person in my life, 317 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: regardless of what stage I've been in. 318 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the next person who messaged through. 319 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: Her name is Shona. And now Shona was a hairdresser 320 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: and she actually developed a few problems with her hands, 321 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: and as you can imagine, it was one hand in particular, 322 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: but as you can imagine really important for a hairdresper. 323 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So here's her story. 324 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: I was a hairdresser for seven years and saw myself 325 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: being a hairdresser for the rest of my life. And 326 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 5: then after three failed surgeries, I decided I wasn't going 327 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: to go back, and I found a love for real estate, 328 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: and then I basically got my license while I was 329 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 5: off from surgeries. 330 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: And then I started my real estate license. 331 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: I actually never ended up going back to. 332 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: Had dres So you can hear how happy and enthusiastic 333 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: she is about. 334 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: This, right, Yeah, absolutely, and I love that. 335 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: So I asked her if, strangely, having all these hand 336 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: problems was actually a good thing, as weird as that 337 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: is to say, in. 338 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: A way, I'm so grateful I've had three failed surgeries 339 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: because I never would have gone to this career that 340 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 5: I'm loving like I've never I never would have thought, oh, 341 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: you know, maybe I could try something different. And I'm 342 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: honestly so grateful that it has happened. It's a blessing 343 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 5: in disguise. 344 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: I think, what's that saying, get lemons, make lemonade? 345 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I think so or like get RSI problems and be 346 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: happy about it. No, I absolutely. 347 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: I can't express. Even talking to her before we started recording. 348 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: She sounds really passionate, so. 349 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: Passionate and so oft and about and so happy about 350 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: when I mean it probably could be easy to get 351 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: really down and bitter poor. 352 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: Me, right, absolutely, And I feel like some people do 353 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: do that, but we all respond differently into different situations. 354 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like if you can embrace change and 355 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: embrace something that you are potentially equally passionate about, like 356 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: that is fantastic. And I don't think that there's ever 357 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: a time where change isn't warranted, if that makes sense, Like, 358 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: obviously some of us are in situations where financially we 359 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: can't go. All right, well, I've always wanted to be 360 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: a hairdresser, but I currently work in a job where 361 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm being paid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a 362 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: year and I'm financially supporting my family. So I think 363 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: that as much as we're talking about changing careers, I 364 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: also think that we need to acknowledge a little bit 365 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: of privilege here, Like we are so lucky to be 366 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: in these positions where we have been afforded opportunities to 367 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: be able to change, but at the same time. I 368 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: think that we are all in control of our own destiny, 369 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: and if we want to make something happen, the Skuy's 370 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of our limit. And I know that sounds really 371 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: lame and motivational, but I've seen so many people, especially 372 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: in our community, achieve incredible things that I'm sure a 373 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: lot of other people in their situation maybe thought we 374 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: weren't possible. 375 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we're talking about this show and I and 376 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: I said to her, you know, if someone else is 377 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: in the same sort of position, and I'm sure lots 378 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: of people go through stage, is this job for me? 379 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: I'm not sure? Do I make the leap? Do I 380 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: not make the leap? And I asked if she had 381 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: any advice for someone in that situation. 382 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 5: I would say, if you are thinking about it a 383 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 5: lot and you think, oh, you know, maybe I should 384 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 5: try it, definitely do it. 385 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Do it. 386 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: If you're unhappy in a job, or if you don't 387 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: feel like you belong there and you want to try 388 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 5: something else, one hundred percent do it. I was so 389 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: scared to leave Pa dressing. I was like, like, what 390 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 5: is it. I'm not good at this, Moms if I 391 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 5: suck at this? But if you feel like you could 392 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 5: do it, totally do it bang. 393 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Well, i'd guess how podcast is done. 394 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: Problem, So thanks for listening. Thanks again sharing. She was 395 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: actually talking to me in the driveway before she was 396 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: going out for dinner. Oh my gosh, yeah, and I 397 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: was like, oh, sorry to keep you waiting. 398 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I love people and how willing they 399 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: are to share their stories and their journeys, because it 400 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: makes me feel so good knowing that we have this 401 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: community that surrounds us that are so kind and so generous, 402 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: but also so inspirational, like they're there are these people 403 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: in our community who have done insanely cool things. And 404 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: you know, even just this opportunity to sit down with 405 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: you and talk about some of these changes people have made, 406 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: and hearing the passion in their voice and hearing that 407 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: they're so excited for the change that they've made, you know, 408 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: might inspire someone listening to actually make a change in 409 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: their lives. 410 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: Well. 411 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if you could tell me smirking over here, 412 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: but this next one is probably my favorite. It's the 413 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: most drastic of changes. This lady, her name is Alice. 414 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: She's originally from Brazil, so you can hear a bit 415 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: of her accent, but she now lives in Queensland. Yeah, 416 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: here's her story. 417 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 6: When it came time to do a university, I went 418 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 6: with Contra and Automation Engineering and I just talked to it, 419 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 6: graduated and went to do my master's. Graduated there, and 420 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 6: so I applied for a paget here in Australia because 421 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 6: my sister works here. And in February twenty nineteen, I 422 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 6: started taking bull dancing classes after ten years not doing 423 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 6: any type of she's going activities, and I just fell 424 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 6: in love with it. And here in Australia it's quite 425 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 6: a big market. Not the best poll dancers are here, 426 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 6: so I came here. I started doing classes immediately, and 427 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 6: now I pretty much figured out that I don't like 428 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 6: engineering and sporing, so I intend on opening my own 429 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 6: pole dancing studio and finishing my life differently. 430 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: So a bachelor's degree in engineering, a master's in engineering, 431 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: a PhD in engineering, and she's about to open a 432 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: pole dancing studio on the Sunshine Coast. 433 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: What an absolute genius business woman. I love her. 434 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: It was surprising because many things were surprising, but she 435 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: said Australia is actually one of the biggest and best 436 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: pole dancing industries in the world. 437 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: Really, I just know that. 438 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: She said. If I tried to open a studio somewhere else, 439 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: it might not have enough people to make it viable. 440 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: But she said, as in a business, Australia is the 441 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: best place to do it because so many people are 442 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: into it and all the world champions and all the 443 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: world championships are always dominated by Australians. 444 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is so cool. 445 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 3: Imagine doing a bachelor's, masters and PhD. She's obviously so 446 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: smart and committed. I think much change that. 447 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: But I also would argue that every step of our 448 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: journey actually helps us grow into the person that we 449 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: are today. Like I started in psychology, and I would 450 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: argue that today I use more of my psychology degrees 451 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: than I ever have before, because I genuinely feel like 452 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: money is such a personal thing and for me to 453 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: understand your money story, I actually have to understand you 454 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: and connect with you and be able to connect you 455 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: with you in a way that makes you really comfortable. 456 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: And for me, I feel like a lot of my 457 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: journey has actually led me to hear and I'm sure 458 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: that that could be potentially exactly the same as her. 459 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: She has all of these incredible degrees and experiences, and 460 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure that they are working their way into the 461 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: way that she's going to run that business and set 462 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: that business up. And you know, engineers are really smart. 463 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: No wonder she's owning her own business, so it kind 464 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: of makes sense. And same thing for you, right like 465 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: you are now the producer of She's on the Money, 466 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: which I love. But you have a background in finance, 467 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: which has been deeply helpful because I feel like you 468 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: actually understand the content and the concepts that we are 469 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: putting out there, and you deeply understand the message, and 470 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: you're equally as passionate about that as I am, because 471 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: you not only are just passionate, but you've experienced it 472 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: and you've worked in it, and for me that that's invaluable. 473 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: Right Well, I've said to a lot of people, education 474 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: is never a waste, even if it feels like it's 475 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: different or it's applied differently, it's never a waste. And 476 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: I think was last week's episode, You're talking about a 477 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: lot of stay at home mothers think, oh, I haven't 478 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 3: been in the workforce, I haven't learned any new skills 479 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: and you life, you have, You've learned how to run 480 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: a household, and if you can manage your two year old, 481 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: surely managing department's a piece case exactly. 482 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: And I feel like I got that experience when I 483 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: have babysat my nieces and nephews, and I feel like, 484 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: if you can deal with them, girl, you can deal 485 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: with anything. A screaming to you old is definitely a 486 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: little bit worse than an angry CEO. I'm telling you 487 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: that right. 488 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: Now, all right, Our final one is Tory, great name. 489 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: Two things I need it? Do you get Tory? 490 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: I do? That is what my family calls. 491 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: I've never heard of Victoria be called Tory until I 492 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: met you. 493 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Hey, great name though. 494 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: So Tory. Two things you need to know about this 495 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: The zoom calls a little bit patchy, so apologies. 496 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: For that quality is key here at Chess on the. 497 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: Mape, I tried my best. We're not lockdown. 498 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: Well we know that, we know the story is worth it. 499 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: Then if you're willing to put patchy content as our 500 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: producer on our platform, okay. 501 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: And well there's also another asterisk. If you can hear 502 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 3: a dog barking in the background, that's Tory's little German 503 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: shepherd puppy and the puppy's name is Bunny. 504 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, can we please listen? 505 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: We can actually let's I can actually give you a 506 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: sample of the dog before we start the check. 507 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is Bunny financially literate? 508 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Also, how do we feel about calling 509 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: a dog by the name of another animal? 510 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 1: No, I really like it. 511 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 7: Anyway, this is I was a dental assistant for four years, 512 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 7: and I thought I would eventually manage like a dental practice, 513 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 7: and then suddenly I was like, I don't know, and 514 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 7: then I ended up in real estate within like a 515 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: week of just out of notewere So. 516 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 3: That sounds really random, right. 517 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely the whoops. I went to go to work as 518 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: a dental nurse. Next minute, I'm a real estate receptionist. 519 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: What Yeah. So Tory's working in dental and her friend 520 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: works in property management, and a few snapchats between these 521 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: two friends literally changed their life. 522 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 7: I was like thinking about changing dental practices, and she 523 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 7: snapchated me and was like, I'm resigning from my job 524 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 7: today and I just responded back saying give me your job, 525 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 7: and She's like, send me your resume, so I did, 526 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 7: and she passed it on to her boss and then 527 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 7: I had an interview like the. 528 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 8: Next day, and yep, then that's how I ended up 529 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 8: being property man. 530 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She just said to her friend, can 531 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: I have your job? 532 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: And then she got it, you're leaving your job? Can 533 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: I have it? 534 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: Cool? Well, I feel like that's legitimate. 535 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she said, like we spoke for a long 536 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: time Tory nine. She said, Oh, if I ever go 537 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: back to wanting to manage a dental practice actually similar 538 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: to what we're talking about before, having this other experience 539 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 3: of managing things and managing people, she said, it might 540 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: not hold me back anyway. It might just be learning 541 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: new skills and apply absolutely. Wait, having said that, that 542 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: was four years ago, since that snapchat and getting the 543 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: new job. So I asked her if she was ever 544 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: going to go back to dental or how she's feeling 545 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: about property now. 546 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 8: I will never go back to dental again unless I 547 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 8: was desperate. But yeah, I am very happy in the decision, 548 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 8: and I'm I guess, very thankful that someone also took 549 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 8: a chance on me with no experience in the field. 550 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: And that's the German shepherd named Bunny in the background. 551 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: I love that Bunny got a cameo. Thank you Bunny 552 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: for coming on our podcast and making it incredible. 553 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of a job change or career 554 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: change happening so instantaneously than that. 555 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: No, I haven't, and I also haven't heard of being 556 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: recruited via Snapchat. But you live and you learn every single. 557 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: Day, all right. Thank you. Thank you to Metty from Finland, 558 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: Shona Alice from Brazil, and Tory for having some time 559 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: with me on zoom and sharing those stories. And thank 560 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: you to the over two hundred people that share their 561 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: story in the Facebook group. I actually feel a bit 562 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: guilty that I couldn't speak to all of them. 563 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: Do you ever feel that, I mean, you can still 564 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: speak to all of them. I'm sure you could. We 565 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: might not be constructive, given we've already recorded the podcast, 566 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: but I do feel like that, like. 567 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: This is the twenty seventh bonus episode thanks to. 568 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to be upset about it. 569 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: I really honestly I love this topic and I feel 570 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: like when Jacob's Creek approached us and said, hey, we've 571 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: got this campaign and we would so love for you 572 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: to be involved. I know you and I Ryan were 573 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: in the background going please let us do this. 574 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: We had to do the business thing of going so yeah, 575 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 3: what's expected both ways. But as soon as Jacob's Creek 576 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: were like hey guys, we're like, yeah, cool. 577 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: Sounds may let's not exactly we were running before it 578 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: purely because they feel like this is such an interesting topic. 579 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: And we get so many questions in the Facebook group 580 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: about people changing careers or what should I do next? 581 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: And how should I test the waters? And you know, 582 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: we've done podcasts on career before and they've always been 583 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: really popular, and I feel like even just the follow 584 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: up from that, people messaging us and saying, oh, Victoria, 585 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: like we listened to the podcast episode on careers and 586 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: now we're looking into X, Y and Z, And I 587 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: just feel like more people need to know about other 588 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: people's stories and how other people have finished differently than 589 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: they've begune because it is so empowering to see, but 590 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: it also is so motivating to know you can actually 591 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: achieve anything and be a part of anything. You can 592 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: go from being an accountant at where was it Ey, Future. 593 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: Partners, the Gateway, I applied no response to things, guys, 594 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: the judgment in your. 595 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Was like, do we want that on the podcast? Not 596 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: not judgments. But I didn't get any either, Don't worry. 597 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: I tried all of them. Oh yeah. 598 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: When I applied when I finished university, I applied to 599 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: Goldman Sacks. 600 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It's been amazing. 601 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there was six stages to the 602 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 3: recruitment process, because you know these big companies, it takes 603 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: like a whole year to apply. 604 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 605 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: I remember going through my grand applications and it was 606 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: so hartuous. 607 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: So I didn't get past the first step. Yeah, these 608 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: guys not even close. And then about a year later 609 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: I was doing an MC gig and it turned out 610 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: it was a corporate event for Goldman Sacks. Oh my god. 611 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: It's a bit of a trivia night sort of scenario, 612 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: you know, a bit of a team building thing. And 613 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: I was the MC. 614 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: Well, well, well would you look who's shown up? 615 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: Well I turned up and I was like, Okay. A 616 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: few years ago I had the dream that one day 617 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: I would be employed and make money from Goldman Sacks 618 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: and ladies and gentlemen. Tonight here I am, Oh, where's 619 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 3: the where's the HR team, where's the recruitment team who 620 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: you know, they're cheering in the back corner, and I 621 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: was like, I'm just going to put it out there. 622 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: You're probably not going to win the trivia tonight. 623 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: So good, so good. I feel like those programs are 624 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: so stressful. I remember finishing UNI and getting to the 625 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: end of my course and applying for all of these 626 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: grad positions and going to probably a million different interviews 627 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: and they're not hearing back, and that was one of 628 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: the most stressful periods in my life. That's not rightful 629 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: my job applying exactly, I thought my thesis was arduous, 630 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: yet applying for post grad jobs and like your graduate 631 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: year I felt was really overwhelming, but also so drawn 632 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: out and so competitive. I remember going I was interviewing 633 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: at Deloitte, which you know, does not sound like well, 634 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: maybe it sounds like me. 635 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, and I kind of does. 636 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 637 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: I was so excited about it, and I really really 638 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: wanted this role, and you know, I got through all 639 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: of the interviews and we got to the group interview 640 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: and then it was like out of three people and 641 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: they were really dragging their feet, and I got offered 642 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: a different role and ended up taking it. And then 643 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: they came back to me needed another interview, and I 644 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: ended up declining and saying, look, I'm going to have 645 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: to pull out because I've accepted this felt that was 646 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: applying for these life exactly. But it happened everywhere, And 647 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: sometimes I just look back and be like, well, what 648 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: if things were different? Like what if I'd actually taken 649 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: that opportunity, because I know that if Deloitte had extended 650 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: an offer to me before my actual company had, I 651 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: would have taken it, And like, what would the trajectory 652 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: of my life looked like then? 653 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: Like well, like sliding doors. 654 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like it's not even sliding doors, 655 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: it's just like which pathway are we choosing? And in hindsight, 656 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: like I was so upset that I, you know, had 657 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: to pull out of Deloitte. Oh remember going home to 658 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: my housemates at the time, I lived with this lovely 659 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: housemak called Liz, and I was so it was genuinely heartbreaking. 660 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, they've asked me back for 661 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: another interview, but I really need this job, and if 662 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't get that one and I don't say yes 663 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: to this one, I actually won't be employed. And like 664 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: it was so stressful, But now in hindsight, I'm like, 665 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: that was exactly what was meant to happen to me 666 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: so that I can do the things that I absolutely 667 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: love today. And I probably wouldn't have been given that 668 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: opportunity had I actually gone for that. 669 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: So it's like we heard from shown, if she didn't 670 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: have those problems with her hand, she might be still 671 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: a hairdresser and found her dream career. 672 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: That you laughed exactly, And I feel like sometimes we're 673 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: so disappointed at an outcome when in reality it's the 674 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: thing we needed to be on our correct path. I 675 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: know that sounds kind of like. 676 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a weird time to change to say 677 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: this given COVID and everyone's jobs, really understand, but how 678 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: many times have you heard someone say, oh, losing my 679 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: job is the best thing that ever happened to me 680 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: because it gave them the time or the encouragement to 681 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: go and try something else and it worked out for 682 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: the best exact. 683 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of those stories exactly, 684 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: And I feel like so many people right now are 685 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: probably listening to this and make like Victorian and Ryan 686 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: pull your heads in, Like I didn't want to lose 687 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: my job, and I get that. I know no one 688 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: ever wishes unemployment on themselves, and I am so upset 689 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: that this is happening to us. But at the same time, 690 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: I think it's this point of reflection where we can 691 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: either choose to grow and change or stay the same. 692 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: And I feel like the working world for us is 693 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: never going to go back to being the same as 694 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: it was. Like things are changing and we can either 695 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: embrace it or we can stray from it. But it's 696 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: our choice, right. 697 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 6: All right. 698 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: So just before we finish up, we've actually got an 699 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: offer for people to listen to the She's on the 700 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: Money podcast thirty percent off now for the Jacob's Creek 701 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: double barrel which is finished differently I who would have 702 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: guessed it. It's finished in aged whiskey barrels, giving it 703 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: a smoother, deeper and richer taste. And if you order 704 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: now you can get thirty percent off and free shipping 705 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: as well. 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A 721 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: massive shout out to our audio king Ryan John for 722 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: putting together today's podcast and that guy's a jerk. 723 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: Also, if you want to join the Issues on the 724 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: Money Facebook community, make sure you come and find us 725 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: and join the eighty four thousand people currently. 726 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: It is so overwhelmingly exciting. 727 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: And just let me say this, because v is too 728 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: sheepish to say this, We're really sorry because it sounds 729 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: like a humble back. We're sorry that we can't always 730 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: approve the post straight away because sometimes we get hundreds 731 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: and hundreds every single day. 732 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: We did really get like four thousand posts a week 733 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: in the group, which is so exciting and so overwhelming, 734 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: and we are so grateful. But it does mean that 735 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: not every single post goes through. 736 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and not straight away. I actually remember before I 737 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 3: worked for you, I posted something in the group and 738 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: it got to prove like a month later. 739 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Excuse me, don't throw me under us. 740 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: Suddenly I got all these notifics. 741 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, but it was a good post. 742 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to know because my partner and I 743 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: are starting or hoping to start a family, and we 744 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: thought health insurance absolutely looking for it, and then, like 745 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: I said, I posted and sort of forgot about it. 746 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: Then a few months later I got to leave the 747 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: answer right. 748 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't a few months, I will have you know, 749 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: because I did look at the dat and I didn't 750 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: approve it because I'm like, oh, this is embarrassing. His 751 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: posts nearly three weeks old. So if you could just 752 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: like calm down on the blow this out of proportion 753 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: ness that you've got going on, sorry, boss, you get 754 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: some good information on health. 755 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. It was very helpful. Thank you 756 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: very much. Appreciate it. Also, if you want to check 757 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: us out on Instagram to search for She's on the 758 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: Money AUS. You can also search for Victoria to Mine 759 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: on Instagram as well, and check out fee on YouTube 760 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: and teller. She's doing a great job because she gets 761 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: nervous in front of camera, but she's killing it. 762 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate it. We will see you guys 763 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: next bonus episode.